President Donald J. Trump

[Jackstar]

a raging socialist (Hello B.S.) 

[Value Of Pi]

At this point, the biggest problem to be faced is not that it is a "protest vote", it is a very real lack of practical alternatives.  As much as I really dislike Trump and think he is one of the worst things that could happen to both America and the world- who else?  When they announced the list of candidates you had a bible thumping divider, another Bush (did anybody honestly believe that was a real alternative?) Rubio (who comes with a few problems of his own, but stands almost no chance) and Trump.  Every one of the candidates who may get the position is distasteful.

And whichever of them gets it will run against Hillary (I may prefer one of the first two Bush's to her- never mind Jeb) or a raging socialist (Hello B.S.) 

In the end- whichever of the apparent heirs to the whitehouse (Trump, Sanders, Rubio, Cruz or Hillary) it is guaranteed to be four years of complete shit.  I don't know that I could bring myself to register a vote for any of these people blood sucking, classless, base, vile cretins.

So yes- Trump is a protest vote in one way- he is also the answer to not providing a candidate (or backing a candidate) of quality (there were a few in the initial line-up who did not make me want to vomit when I typed their names... but none were ever really contenders.)

And this is the best that both the democratic and republican parties have to offer the citizens of America?

Yes, I agree with your point of view. Trump certainly started out as purely a protest vote (against the system and the status quo) and now has taken on a much bigger dimension. In effect, though, if you vote for him now (now that he is well on his way to getting the nomination), you are basically saying "screw you" to the system and the country for not giving us any really qualified candidates who are presidential timber. I understand the feeling but it's still sick.

BTW, on the list of people still hanging on for dear life, Kasich may be a reasonable option. He's the only one left who doesn't scare me, wouldn't strain my conscience, and might potentially do some good. Of course, this is no way to pick a president. But our "best and brightest" don't seem to be interested in the job. And nobody in power is interested in getting them interested.

[Jackstar]

Kasich may be a reasonable option.

Once Hitlary is behind bars, he and Sanders can team up to take turns being mocked by Trump. It'll be a gasser.

[FearBoysWithBugs]

[Lena]

NEVADA Caucus poll
https://www.scribd.com/doc/299984014/Cnn-Orc-Nevada-Poll-2-17-16


Rafael Cruz

GOP Establishment is now behind Rubio of course.
I think their mistake is that he doesn't look presidential at all, so hopefully a bunch of Bush voters will switch to Trump.
Can you imagine Rubio as President? The guy can't even talk after he spent his remembered 20 second lines.
Cruz looks like a Skeksi.
I wonder when Kasich and Carson will drop out. They obviously have zero chance.

[Lena]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0tE6T-ecmg

The Jews at the Washington Post now say Trump is the new Hitler,
call upon GOP not nominate Trump even if he wins the most delegates.
Jews loosing their shit

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/moment-of-truth-we-must-stop-trump/2016/02/21/0172e788-d8a7-11e5-925f-1d10062cc82d_story.html?tid=ss_tw-bottom

[Lena]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9DJrA8gBwM
Donald Trump HUGE AMAZING Rally in Atlanta, GA (2-21-16)

[nooryisawesome]

If I was Trump I'd be concerned about all the money Rubio is going to spend. Marco is much more likeable than Bush. With all that money he is a real threat to Trump. Rubio will massively out spend Trump in all the remaining states.

[Lena]

Marco is much more likeable than Bush. With all that money he is a real threat to Trump. Rubio will massively out spend Trump in all the remaining states.

Marco is more likeable? Yes, he could have played a gay drugdealer in Beverly Hills 90210, if you're into that. I'm not.
Money wont help Rubio. All they can do is use dirty tricks, maybe vote fraud or open GOP rebellion against Trump.

[nooryisawesome]

Yes, a good essay, especially the part about Trump voters not being angry but being bored, immature and infatuated with celebrity and money. I think the word is decadence.

Soviet propagandists were always wrongly accusing us of that but we may almost be there. The game people were playing in their minds about this being a protest vote has taken on a life of its own. It's going to kick them and theirs in the ass real hard if they don't wake up soon and realize this is for all the marbles, no fooling around.

The amazing thing too is where the battle lines may well be drawn. At the bottom layer of the election onion may be the thinkers versus the non-thinkers (as YP alluded to earlier), not the economic or political or ethnic divide people always talk about.

The question for me is, is there anyone the thinkers can rally around the way the non-thinkers are rallying around Trump, if that's the choice in the end. You know, dogs and cats, conservatives and moderates and progressives all putting aside their differences temporarily to stop Trump. That would be a sight.

I am legitmently angry and lean Trump. But I understand there is a lot to dislike about him. I would consider myself a political moderate.

[21st Century Man]

If I was Trump I'd be concerned about all the money Rubio is going to spend. Marco is much more likeable than Bush. With all that money he is a real threat to Trump. Rubio will massively out spend Trump in all the remaining states.

Kasich and Carson need to drop out or it is doubtful Rubio will have much of a chance.  Cruz isn't dropping out anytime soon and I do not see many supporters deserting him at this point.  Trump's path is pretty clear unless Kasich and Carson drop out.  Kasich has a real chance of becoming a VP pick for either Cruz or Rubio because Ohio is so critical but he has to bow out now or the chance will fade.  Trump doesn't need him. However, if Kasich lets his ego get in the way, he will never have another good chance of becoming President.  He needs to bow out in the next week as does Carson.

[nooryisawesome]

Marco is more likeable? Yes, he could have played a gay drugdealer in Beverly Hills 90210, if you're into that. I'm not.
Money wont help Rubio. All they can do is use dirty tricks, maybe vote fraud or open GOP rebellion against Trump.

Marco is not seen as much as a political insider as Bush. Marco also will benefit from Bush no longer running millions of dollars worth of attack ads driving Marcos unlikeable rating up. Marco with some money could be a dangerous canidate.

[21st Century Man]

Marco is not seen as much as a political insider as Bush. Marco also will benefit from Bush no longer running millions of dollars worth of attack ads driving Marcos unlikeable rating up. Marco with some money could be a dangerous canidate.

I like Marco's passion but I doubt his sincerity on the immigration issue.

[Value Of Pi]

I am legitmently angry and lean Trump. But I understand there is a lot to dislike about him. I would consider myself a political moderate.

Trump has latched onto the anger that's always out there, especially at election time. He's happily fanning the flames because it helps him. He doesn't have to explain anything. He just attacks. Then, he packages everything under a positive-sounding "Make America Great Again" umbrella and adds a lot of glitz. He's a master at this con game and he's got many people hypnotized. You don't sound like you're under his spell yet. You're still thinking and considering.

I'm a moderate too but I don't think that's any protection against what he's selling. And if you look at this from a marketing point of view, he only has to make the sale once. Once he's in the Oval Office, the con is over and he's won. He won't need to worry about getting repeat buyers, like any marketer does.

[21st Century Man]

What I am wondering is who is Trump going to pick as VP?  I really can't see him picking anybody in the current field maybe Rubio has an outside chance but I think he might pick someone from the South just to solidify his support in that part of the country.  Someone with experience that can bridge the gap with Congress like maybe,  I don't know, Trent Lott.  Or maybe he will really go outside the box and pick a liberal.

[21st Century Man]

Trump has latched onto the anger that's always out there, especially at election time. He's happily fanning the flames because it helps him. He doesn't have to explain anything. He just attacks. Then, he packages everything under a positive-sounding "Make America Great Again" umbrella and adds a lot of glitz. He's a master at this con game and he's got many people hypnotized. You don't sound like you're under his spell yet. You're still thinking and considering.

I'm a moderate too but I don't think that's any protection against what he's selling. And if you look at this from a marketing point of view, he only has to make the sale once. Once he's in the Oval Office, the con is over and he's won. He won't need to worry about getting repeat buyers, like any marketer does.

Well, he can get get re-elected and I assume he would like 8 years rather than 4.  I'm also angry and while I enjoyed the chaos that Trump created initially, it has worn thin and I really can't imagine living under such an egotistical jerk who will bluster and make threats continuously against his perceived enemies.  Though his wife and Ivanka would make an easy-on-the-eyes first family.

[WOTR]

What I am wonder is who is Trump going to pick as VP? 

He has lots of time to decide... I hope he starts an "apprentice" type reality show to pick the next VP.  It might be the first "reality" show that I actually tune into.

Instead of "your fired" he can demote them to ambassadors and other "lesser" positions as the show progresses.  If somebody really screws up they become ambassador to some war torn middle eastern hole and their security detail gets reduced...

[21st Century Man]

He has lots of time to decide... I hope he starts an "apprentice" type reality show to pick the next VP.  It might be the first "reality" show that I actually tune into.

Instead of "your fired" he can demote them to secretary of state and other "lesser" positions as the show progresses.

LOL.  I like that idea and I hate reality shows.

[21st Century Man]

He has lots of time to decide... I hope he starts an "apprentice" type reality show to pick the next VP.  It might be the first "reality" show that I actually tune into.

Instead of "your fired" he can demote them to secretary of state and other "lesser" positions as the show progresses.

Whoops, forgot to look over my post.  Wondering not wonder.  I'm not related to Lena.  Honestly.


Note to Lena, I am not insulting you.  Your English is very good but every now and then you make a goof.  We all make mistakes.

[AvDaBr]

From a political perspective, Tim Scott might be the best possible choice as Trump's VP.  But Scott is endorsing Rubio, so that might eliminate him from consideration.

[21st Century Man]

From a political perspective, Tim Scott might be the best possible choice as Trump's VP.  But Scott is endorsing Rubio, so that might eliminate him from consideration.

I don't think there is too much bad blood between Rubio and Trump though that might change very quickly.

[WOTR]

LOL.  I like that idea and I hate reality shows.

It is funny... Part of me is joking... Part of me is not.  It would be the most open and honest appointment of a non-elected official in a very long time.  People would get to see the persons strengths and flaws.  Perhaps combining the apprentice with American Idol where the unwashed masses call in and pay their $.50 per vote until it gets down to the last three (out of which the donald would appoint his running mate.)  They can either donate that $.50 to a veterans charity or pay off the national debt, depending on what will be the most popular and win him the most votes.

It would also get people to feel like they have some stake in the voting process and would probably bring tons of "non voters" out on election day to get "their" VP elected.

On one hand, I think it would turn the whole political process into a joke and a circus.  On the other hand- it is already both those things, and more.

[Value Of Pi]

Well, he can get get re-elected and I assume he would like 8 years rather than 4.  I'm also angry and while I enjoyed the chaos that Trump created initially, it has worn thin and I really can't imagine living under such an egotistical jerk who will bluster and make threats continuously against his perceived enemies.  Though his wife and Ivanka would make an easy-on-the-eyes first family.

Yeah, most candidates think in terms of having at least four years, and hopefully eight, to accomplish their major goals. Trump doesn't think that way at all. Getting elected is the prize, not what he does while in office. He might not even want two terms. Once he's in, he'll have more fun throwing his weight around than a kid in a candy shop. And you can believe that we'll find out just how much he loves to win and how much he hates to lose.

[Yorkshire pud]

Yeah, most candidates think in terms of having at least four years, and hopefully eight, to accomplish their major goals. Trump doesn't think that way at all. Getting elected is the prize, not what he does while in office. He might not even want two terms. Once he's in, he'll have more fun throwing his weight around than a kid in a candy shop. And you can believe that we'll find out just how much he loves to win and how much he hates to lose.

Isn't that truly terrifying? The emphasis bring on 'he'. He'll be making deals for his future use on everything.

[21st Century Man]

I got it.  Rosie O'Donnell for VP!  What a pair they would make. 



She can pull some of the feminist/gay vote away from Hillary.

LOL!   I"M JUST KIDDING!

[WOTR]

Isn't that truly terrifying? The emphasis bring on 'he'. He'll be making deals for his future use on everything.

Bullshit.  Haven't you heard- he can't be bought.  He owes nothing to anybody and will not take favours nor cash. :

[Value Of Pi]

He has lots of time to decide... I hope he starts an "apprentice" type reality show to pick the next VP.  It might be the first "reality" show that I actually tune into.

Instead of "your fired" he can demote them to ambassadors and other "lesser" positions as the show progresses.  If somebody really screws up they become ambassador to some war torn middle eastern hole and their security detail gets reduced...

That'll be just one show on one channel of the new White House network. There will also be cliffhanger dramas and absurdist comedies on a level never before imagined. And then there will be this exciting new show called "The Button."

[Lena]

What I am wondering is who is Trump going to pick as VP?

He will pick Ann Coulter as VP

[21st Century Man]

It is funny... Part of me is joking... Part of me is not.  It would be the most open and honest appointment of a non-elected official in a very long time.  People would get to see the persons strengths and flaws.  Perhaps combining the apprentice with American Idol where the unwashed masses call in and pay their $.50 per vote until it gets down to the last three (out of which the donald would appoint his running mate.)  They can either donate that $.50 to a veterans charity or pay off the national debt, depending on what will be the most popular and win him the most votes.

It would also get people to feel like they have some stake in the voting process and would probably bring tons of "non voters" out on election day to get "their" VP elected.

On one hand, I think it would turn the whole political process into a joke and a circus.  On the other hand- it is already both those things, and more.

Basically that is what the people want. I guess that is what we deserve. Bread and Circuses.  Goodbye, George Washington.

[Jackstar]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnNbcmbDpjI