Midnight In The Desert

[Bluejay]

I just saw ' Smokin' Aces 2:Assassin's Ball '. They knew how to deal w/ evil clowns in that flick - lol.

I must be tired.  I misread that as “Stroker Ace”

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

Tired, man.   Might fall asleep at the keyboard.   I had prepared for bed but my dog is in my pc room and I want to take her out to pee before I sleep but I hate to wake her.

Hope you're doing well!!! 

Thanks.   
Hope things are going well w/ you too. 
I'll let you get going. Things have been pretty busy here too. I have a lot of threads to catch up on. I wanted to be here more, recently too.
Things will clear up sooner or later. 
Have a good one brother. I have some thread hopping to do yet tonight. 

[(Sandman) Logan-5]

I must be tired.  I misread that as “Stroker Ace”

lol - Hi Bluejay.
Yeah, it's kind of the middle of the day for me. I've been keeping odd hours lately.
(It's been years since I've seen Stroker Ace.)

[K_Dubb]

No, never in aluminum or Styrofoam. Too caustic when rehyrating. Or at least I never heard of Styrofoam. Maybe in packing already dried out and shipping?

Dried cod resembles nothing more than a stick of wood of about the right length and shape for an axe-handle, at least the ones I've et.  For a food that sustained half of Europe for five hundred years or more, it's surprisingly unfamiliar.  Only the Portuguese still have a taste for it, it seems.

[AlternativeSide]

The pain from Schrader's show last night was exquisite...

[Bluejay]

Dried cod resembles nothing more than a stick of wood of about the right length and shape for an axe-handle, at least the ones I've et.  For a food that sustained half of Europe for five hundred years or more, it's surprisingly unfamiliar.  Only the Portuguese still have a taste for it, it seems.

The Italians do too... their version is called bacala.

[TigerLily]

She wasn't abused by her father, was she? 😿



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[Bart Ell]

Keep hitting them outta the park, Dave.

[Bluejay]

Keep hitting them outta the park, Dave.

[yoursongs]

At least Keith isn't running the Frank Thomas Nugenix boner pill commercial after that heaviness.

and don't forget: ....."She'll like it too"

[K_Dubb]

The Italians do too... their version is called bacala.

Cool, checking out recipes!

The Portuguese joke (I have a couple friends, some of the most old-world-gracious people I've met) that they have 500 preparations of bacalao, the legacy of a cod-fishing heritage that goes back at least to the middle ages.

It is astonishing how the hard, smelly old fish becomes, after a couple soaks in milk, a delicate, flaky treat with a flavor closer to crab or shrimp than fresh cod.  I can only imagine my people resorted to lye out of penury.

[GravitySucks]

Cool, checking out recipes!

The Portuguese joke (I have a couple friends, some of the most old-world-gracious people I've met) that they have 500 preparations of bacalao, the legacy of a cod-fishing heritage that goes back at least to the middle ages.

It is astonishing how the hard, smelly old fish becomes, after a couple soaks in milk, a delicate, flaky treat with a flavor closer to crab or shrimp than fresh cod.  I can only imagine my people resorted to lye out of penury.

I think they resorted to lye to keep any invaders from stealing their fish.

[Bluejay]

and don't forget: ....."She'll like it too"

[albrecht]

Dried cod resembles nothing more than a stick of wood of about the right length and shape for an axe-handle, at least the ones I've et.  For a food that sustained half of Europe for five hundred years or more, it's surprisingly unfamiliar.  Only the Portuguese still have a taste for it, it seems.

We have it here at the grocery store. Wood boxes of salted cod. Not sure how much they sell because they always have it and likely "shelf life" is very long!  But I think the process is simply salt and air curing, not the lye (wood ash) process used in lutefisk. Both however need to be "reconstituted" to eat, changing water several times to get rid of salt (and/or lye) but the lye involved in lutefisk means you can't use aluminum pans because they will turn black.

[K_Dubb]

We have it here at the grocery store. Wood boxes of salted cod. Not sure how much they sell because they always have it and likely "shelf life" is very long!  But I think the process is simply salt and air curing, not the lye (wood ash) process used in lutefisk. Both however need to be "reconstituted" to eat, changing water several times to get rid of salt (and/or lye) but the lye involved in lutefisk means you can't use aluminum pans because they will turn black.

I think for lutefisk the lye is just one of the soaks, used instead of milk -- the dried fish you start with is the same.

[albrecht]

I think for lutefisk the lye is just one of the soaks, used instead of milk -- the dried fish you start with is the same.

You might be right, which makes the addition of lye even more questionable!

"Lutefisk starts as cod, traditionally caught in the cold waters off Norway. It’s then dried to the point that it attains the feel of leather and the firmness of corrugated cardboard. Water alone can’t reconstitute the fish, so it’s soaked in lye. Yes, lye, the industrial chemical used to unclog drains and dispose of murder victims, the one that explodes when it comes in contact with aluminum. Incidentally, it’s the same chemical that gives pretzels that deep, shiny brown, cures fresh olives for eating, and what makes bagels gleam; these foods just don’t advertise this fact like lutefisk does. The fish is then repeatedly rinsed before being shipped off for cooking and eating. But it’s still so close to toxic that the state of Wisconsin specifically exempts lutefisk from classification as a toxic substance in Section 101.58 (2)(j)(f) of its laws regulating workplace safety."


https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/scandinavians-strange-holiday-lutefisk-tradition-2218218/

http://www.legis.state.wi.us/statutes/Stat0101.pdf

[K_Dubb]

You might be right, which makes the addition of lye even more questionable!

"Lutefisk starts as cod, traditionally caught in the cold waters off Norway. It’s then dried to the point that it attains the feel of leather and the firmness of corrugated cardboard. Water alone can’t reconstitute the fish, so it’s soaked in lye. Yes, lye, the industrial chemical used to unclog drains and dispose of murder victims, the one that explodes when it comes in contact with aluminum. Incidentally, it’s the same chemical that gives pretzels that deep, shiny brown, cures fresh olives for eating, and what makes bagels gleam; these foods just don’t advertise this fact like lutefisk does. The fish is then repeatedly rinsed before being shipped off for cooking and eating. But it’s still so close to toxic that the state of Wisconsin specifically exempts lutefisk from classification as a toxic substance in Section 101.58 (2)(j)(f) of its laws regulating workplace safety."


https://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/scandinavians-strange-holiday-lutefisk-tradition-2218218/

http://www.legis.state.wi.us/statutes/Stat0101.pdf

Hahaha that is priceless!



The thing is, though, lye is essentially a gourmet addition, not a necessity.  People can reconstitute salted and dried meat quite well without it, and were used to doing it back then with beef and pork.  The lye also reduces the protein content of the fish considerably, so its food value is actually reduced.  They were deliberately aiming at that jellied texture 

[Dyna-X]

Yes its a double post, but it should be seen in the main thread. Suspicious don't you think?

[Metron2267]

Very telling is what I think...

[Bluejay]

Yes its a double post, but it should be seen in the main thread. Suspicious don't you think?

[albrecht]

Hahaha that is priceless!



The thing is, though, lye is essentially a gourmet addition, not a necessity.  People can reconstitute salted and dried meat quite well without it, and were used to doing it back then with beef and pork.  The lye also reduces the protein content of the fish considerably, so its food value is actually reduced.  They were deliberately aiming at that jellied texture 

That is what is so bizarre! Some kind of penitence due some Lutheran guilt? Some way of preventing enemies from stealing your food in the bad old days?

[K_Dubb]

That is what is so bizarre! Some kind of penitence due some Lutheran guilt? Some way of preventing enemies from stealing your food in the bad old days?

Haha you know I have a theory about that, like everything else!  Has to do with days before jello and powdered blancmange, when aspics and jellies were a status food due to the laborious cooking needed to extract, costly molds to display, and (probably most importantly for lutefisk) a novel, tender texture in an era of rough diets and bad teeth.  There is still a brand of excellent German herring in aspic that I find delicious, though you get some funny looks when you open a can for lunch.

[AlternativeSide]

Tonight Schrader will talk about selling Art's Old belongings ...

the suffering will be legendary...

[albrecht]

Haha you know I have a theory about that, like everything else!  Has to do with days before jello and powdered blancmange, when aspics and jellies were a status food due to the laborious cooking needed to extract, costly molds to display, and (probably most importantly for lutefisk) a novel, tender texture in an era of rough diets and bad teeth.  There is still a brand of excellent German herring in aspic that I find delicious, though you get some funny looks when you open a can for lunch.

Ha, I like the theory. The teeth thing has merit. Poor teeth hygiene, teeth getting knocked out in battle, teeth getting knocked out in Holmgang, etc.
That herring in aspic was still popular in N.Germany,at least a decade ago. They even sold sort of  "snack packs" of it at the kiosk in the train station even! Smaller cans for individual snacking.

[Jocko Johnson]

Trial? Ok. Sounds good to me. But I am sure there are some democrat commie libs who would be against it!

[K_Dubb]

Ha, I like the theory. The teeth thing has merit. Poor teeth hygiene, teeth getting knocked out in battle, teeth getting knocked out in Holmgang, etc.
That herring in aspic was still popular in N.Germany,at least a decade ago. They even sold sort of  "snack packs" of it at the kiosk in the train station even! Smaller cans for individual snacking.

See, jellied fish is not so strange!  Now imagine it once a year, after subsisting on whole-grain porridge and turnips, with the occasional scrap of dried-out old pig, and it probably tastes pretty good.  Jelly = status.

Besides gelatin, most of the starches we now use to set things to a jelly-like consistency, rice, corn and potato, are not native to Europe, so their use started out as holiday food, and their persistence is a kind of measure of how backward each region was.  It's how we get rice pudding for Christmas, or (my favorite example, from the least-civilized region of Europe) the beautiful Karelian pasties of beautifully shaped dough surrounding a filling of plain mashed potato, as though it is a special treat.

[Jocko Johnson]

In the United States, an estimated 460,000 children are reported missing every year.
https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/2015-ncic-missing-person-and-unidentified-person-statistics.pdf/view

No marches, no campaigns, no media coverage.

Aliens, "preverts," and ask David Paulides where the rest are.

[Jocko Johnson]

Who else gets texts?  I have no idea where I signed up for text emergency broadcast, but so far it has always been about missing children.

Me

It's a law. Called Meagans law I believe. Like in the area you live if something happens they put the amber alert on the scrolling hwy signs, texts, tv scroll and radio. Cops have recovered may children like that but mostly it is family snatches kids re: custody agreements etc.

[albrecht]

See, jellied fish is not so strange!  Now imagine it once a year, after subsisting on whole-grain porridge and turnips, with the occasional scrap of dried-out old pig, and it probably tastes pretty good.  Jelly = status.

Besides gelatin, most of the starches we now use to set things to a jelly-like consistency, rice, corn and potato, are not native to Europe, so their use started out as holiday food, and their persistence is a kind of measure of how backward each region was.  It's how we get rice pudding for Christmas, or (my favorite example, from the least-civilized region of Europe) the beautiful Karelian pasties of beautifully shaped dough surrounding a filling of plain mashed potato, as though it is a special treat.

Herring in gelatin/aspic (same thing?) will also be featured at the Bellgab Sardine Fest 2018.
Good points about how what now is common was rare and for celebratory purposes and a real treat after months of the same old, same old.
Karelians? Where is frequent caller "Bill from Madison" to talk about Finno-Urgic issues and theorizing??!!

[Jocko Johnson]

I wanted clarification as she is very religious, does she consider Wicca = WITCHCRAFT, is it a judgement call by someone religious?

I agree this isnt Wicca but I wanted to address it.

DS

We need to ask heater wad and her coven oh no her crew and 178 listeners as she is supposedly a witch of some sort. Then they have dudettes with power to add protection screens from Canada across the world over her show etc, etc.