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The Other Side of Midnight - Richard C. Hoagland - Live Chat Thread

Started by cosmic hobo, June 24, 2015, 09:00:52 PM

ShayP

Hoagie should stop using the broken Accutron to tell time.

Just received this email. (notice the time stamp)


The Other Side of Midnight <do-not-reply@theothersideofmidnight.com>                1:00 PM (1 minute ago)

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Hello Club 19.5ers!

Strike That - Reverse It!

The Special Broadcast for tomorrow night 6/13/17 is cancelled. We will update everybody this weekend!

Thank you for your continued support!

Watch theothersideofmidnight.com and our social media pages for more updates and info!

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M & The Other Side Of Midnight Team

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K_Dubb

Quote from: ShayP on June 18, 2017, 11:03:44 AM
Hoagseidon riding SciFiAuthor?  :D  ;)

Haha yeah I got bored last night.  Not entirely Hoagie's fault.


zeebo

Quote from: Morgus on June 18, 2017, 01:52:14 AM
Tonight's RV guest did sound familiar and she mentioned she had been on c2cam recently with weekend host Connie Willis.
I remember her on that one, she remote-viewed several things for her including bigfoot and a secret underground installation at Mt. Shasta.

I didn't realize that.  I heard that one and her Mt. Shasta visions were pretty unsettling, even amidst Ms. Connie's giggles.  I occasionally have reason to drive through that area and if I'm honest I always get a little creeped out.  After all, besides the underground labs and ufo reports, it's also where Andrew Basiago got his time travel training.

Nobody

Quote from: albrecht on June 14, 2017, 01:02:32 PM
Ha. Yeah, I don't like how the English-speaking world is cutting SW broadcasts.

Admittedly, it is difficult to convince people to spend money on something when the effects won't be felt for some years.  America only knew the impact that the VOA had on the Russians decades later, after the Soviet Union fell.

Still, a lot of the cutbacks are a good example of the old saying, "penny-wise, pound-foolish."

Quote from: albrecht on June 14, 2017, 01:02:32 PM
and sometimes I get some French. And number stations.

You are familiar with The Conet Project, I assume?


Quote from: albrecht on June 14, 2017, 01:02:32 PM
Re: the Chinese. They think long-term and also SW is pretty cheap and is great for spy-agency communications

Yes, shortwave radio and one-time pads have proven themselves over the decades to be a reliable means of communication for espionage.  Broadcasts from number stations have taken place for decades, but I have never heard of a spy who was ever caught soley as the result of someone locating their shortwave receiver.

Of course, times change, and it is possible that quantum entanglement might prove to be the "unbreakable" means of transmitting messages that governments have always sought:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycbunh2x

Quote from: albrecht on June 14, 2017, 01:02:32 PM
and out reach to rural or poor populations.

I found the "word picture" you painted of a shack full of illegal aliens listening to shortwave to be a very powerful one.  While computers are cheaper than they have ever been, it is difficult to beat a shortwave radio in terms of the initial purchase price, portability, and the cost of keeping it running.

Smartphones are a wonder, but not everyone has the hundreds of dollars for the initial outlay (a new iPhone ran US$600 last I looked), to say nothing of the exciting cost of a typical monthly data plan.

Quote from: albrecht on June 14, 2017, 01:02:32 PM
However, they should be broadcasting in French, English, and various African dialects to help facilitate their take over in Africa etc.

As a rule, I am chary about offering Wikipedia as a reference (the confusion in the WXME entry over their broadcast format is a good example why).  However, even if Wiki only has it half right, CRI broadcasts in an impressive array of languages:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Radio_International#Languages

albrecht

Quote from: Nobody on June 18, 2017, 03:45:31 PM
Admittedly, it is difficult to convince people to spend money on something when the effects won't be felt for some years.  America only knew the impact that the VOA had on the Russians decades later, after the Soviet Union fell.

Still, a lot of the cutbacks are a good example of the old saying, "penny-wise, pound-foolish."

You are familiar with The Conet Project, I assume?


Yes, shortwave radio and one-time pads have proven themselves over the decades to be a reliable means of communication for espionage.  Broadcasts from number stations have taken place for decades, but I have never heard of a spy who was ever caught soley as the result of someone locating their shortwave receiver.

Of course, times change, and it is possible that quantum entanglement might prove to be the "unbreakable" means of transmitting messages that governments have always sought:

http://preview.tinyurl.com/ycbunh2x

I found the "word picture" you painted of a shack full of illegal aliens listening to shortwave to be a very powerful one.  While computers are cheaper than they have ever been, it is difficult to beat a shortwave radio in terms of the initial purchase price, portability, and the cost of keeping it running.

Smartphones are a wonder, but not everyone has the hundreds of dollars for the initial outlay (a new iPhone ran US$600 last I looked), to say nothing of the exciting cost of a typical monthly data plan.

As a rule, I am chary about offering Wikipedia as a reference (the confusion in the WXME entry over their broadcast format is a good example why).  However, even if Wiki only has it half right, CRI broadcasts in an impressive array of languages:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Radio_International#Languages
All great points. Yes, I'm aware of the Conet Project. Neat stuff. I know the new technology is taking over and giving not just passive access to information and communications to more people (I've read how cell phones in some areas are allowing a country to by-pass the normal stages of technological development that the West went through.) But I also like SW and radio in general for the ability to broadcast to a large population over vast distances. I think the US thinks too short term and the Chinese think more long term. We should be supporting more VOA etc type of stuff on SW and other platforms and not just rely on Hollywood or McDonald's to represent the US or our values/people in other countries.

albrecht

Quote from: zeebo on June 18, 2017, 01:28:05 PM
I didn't realize that.  I heard that one and her Mt. Shasta visions were pretty unsettling, even amidst Ms. Connie's giggles.  I occasionally have reason to drive through that area and if I'm honest I always get a little creeped out.  After all, besides the underground labs and ufo reports, it's also where Andrew Basiago got his time travel training.
Ever run into St.Germaine or the "little people" Lumerians? Dr. Wendy Lockwood show with Art back in the day was one of my favorites. She has some really wacko theories and Art was great in his questioning. And we got Mr.Fidget on it also.
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2009/06/27/art

Nobody

Quote from: (Sandman) Logan-5 on June 14, 2017, 07:14:06 PM
Vacuum tube SW will propagate after an EMP or nuclear detonation.

"Vacuum tubes"?  ???  Valves I think you mean.  ;)  :)

Your remark about valves and EMP puts me in mind of the Belenko MIG-25 the Americans examined in Japan.  If I remember correctly, the Americans thought the all-valve avionics were a cunning communist plot to allow Soviet aircraft to keep flying after a nuclear exchange.

It wasn't until ages later, after the dissolution of the Soviet Union, they realised that the Russians were still using valves in the 1970s because that was all they had.   ;D  Even today, the Russians are not known for microchip production (though I understand they are taking steps to change this).

Quote from: (Sandman) Logan-5 on June 14, 2017, 07:14:06 PM
Almost all new vacuum tubes are being manufactured in China now.

I'm fairly certain the Russians are still cranking them out as well, though in nowhere near the quantities the Chinese produce.

Years after it was originally published, I saw a highly intriguing article in a popular American science magazine about Russian valves.  The magazine dated from 1986 or '87, when Compact Discs were still exciting (not to mention ruinously expensive).  Anyhow, the article talked about how CDs were all very well, but that the most accurate reproductions of music were still analogue, using valve-based audio equipment.  It then went on to talk about how the only country still making them at the time was: the Soviet Union.

(I don't recall what the article said about how people in the US could hope to acquire tubes from the USSR, but I'm sure the process must have been an interesting one.)

Quote from: (Sandman) Logan-5 on June 14, 2017, 07:14:06 PM
Might be a connection there for a Chinese contingency fall-back plan.  Then again, I could just be Doom-N-Gloom  trolling.  ;)

We'll know something is up when the Chinese start offering valve-based computers for sale.

Quote from: Nobody on June 18, 2017, 07:53:38 PM
"Vacuum tubes"?  ???  Valves I think you mean.  ;)  :)

Your remark about valves and EMP puts me in mind of the Belenko MIG-25 the Americans examined in Japan.  If I remember correctly, the Americans thought the all-valve avionics were a cunning communist plot to allow Soviet aircraft to keep flying after a nuclear exchange.

It wasn't until ages later, after the dissolution of the Soviet Union, they realised that the Russians were still using valves in the 1970s because that was all they had.   ;D  Even today, the Russians are not known for microchip production (though I understand they are taking steps to change this).

I'm fairly certain the Russians are still cranking them out as well, though in nowhere near the quantities the Chinese produce.

Years after it was originally published, I saw a highly intriguing article in a popular American science magazine about Russian valves.  The magazine dated from 1986 or '87, when Compact Discs were still exciting (not to mention ruinously expensive).  Anyhow, the article talked about how CDs were all very well, but that the most accurate reproductions of music were still analogue, using valve-based audio equipment.  It then went on to talk about how the only country still making them at the time was: the Soviet Union.

(I don't recall what the article said about how people in the US could hope to acquire tubes from the USSR, but I'm sure the process must have been an interesting one.)

We'll know something is up when the Chinese start offering valve-based computers for sale.
LOL - Exactly right. (I used a, more generalized term for those not into analog) ;)
The soviet tubes / valves are actually fairly high quality, depending on what you're using them for.. The Chinese valves are junk, pretty much like everything else they cheaply produce.
Good info about the Mig, I didn't know that.  :)

12AX7 Valve comparison.
https://www.amplifiedparts.com/tech-corner/12ax7-comparison-current-made-tubes






ShayP

Just as yesterday...No website update and no evidence of a show.  Yet good 'ol Hoagie had one; albeit a shit show.   :P
I'm curious as to what the topic will be tonight if there is one.  He still never said why Tuesday was canceled, and the mail I posted earlier stated that he would.  :-\



trostol

Quote from: ShayP on June 18, 2017, 09:35:03 PM
Just as yesterday...No website update and no evidence of a show.  Yet good 'ol Hoagie had one; albeit a shit show.   :P
I'm curious as to what the topic will be tonight if there is one.  He still never said why Tuesday was canceled, and the mail I posted earlier stated that he would.  :-\

nothing on FB either save pray for Jim Marrs

Zenman

Quote from: GravitySucks on June 18, 2017, 09:47:55 AM
Hoagland could get into Dick Cavett mode and just interview Principal Investigators of various NASA Science missions. There are plenty in space now. SDO, Stereo, and the new Sun probe that will be launched soon. The James Webb Space telescope. Status of Hubble. The new D-Orbit test coming up. Not every show has to be woo woo.

Yeah, it'd be great if there was some interesting science type stuff on tonight. I think I should email the RV lady tho and thank her. I dropped off like a rock about half way thru the show last night and slept soundly for several hours. Haven't awoken that refreshed since I used to doze off during Noory.

Zenman

Quote from: ShayP on June 18, 2017, 09:35:03 PM
Just as yesterday...No website update and no evidence of a show.  Yet good 'ol Hoagie had one; albeit a shit show.   :P
I'm curious as to what the topic will be tonight if there is one.  He still never said why Tuesday was canceled, and the mail I posted earlier stated that he would.  :-\

That's probably not a good sign even if there is a show, going by last night. Baited breath here tho.  :D

(Not to be confused with "bated" breath.)


ShayP




BRAAPS Everyone.  :)

Yeah, Hoagy's on and getting overrun by the music.

ShayP

Cheers and Braaps to all!  :D

please partake in what you fancy...





Oh...and to Dr. MD MD...the Chambord is behind the arm of the couch.  ;)  :D


comaphobe

Does somebody have a link to PLS or other shortcut that I can use to play the Charlatan's show through Winamp?

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: ShayP on June 18, 2017, 10:13:55 PM
Cheers and Braaps to all!  :D
please partake in what you fancy...
Oh...and to Dr. MD MD...the Chambord is behind the arm of the couch.  ;)  :D

Gravy!  :D

ShayP

Why do I feel I've heard Spence recently?  Wasn't he....never mind.  That was Farrell on Hoagie's return program.  :P


ShayP

Quote from: comaphobe on June 18, 2017, 10:16:11 PM
Does somebody have a link to PLS or other shortcut that I can use to play the Charlatan's show through Winamp?

http://www.kiyq.org/player/    click the 1st icon on the right

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