Why is Noory's job so safe?

[Nick el Ass]

Funny how Juan Cena posts here.... just when i was about to say, Noory is coast to coasts version of john cena.

I often wonder how many people sing George Noory sucks once the C2C theme song hits.

[Corona Kitty]

I often wonder how many people sing George Noory sucks once the C2C theme song hits.

Hehe i like you

[Nick el Ass]

Hehe i like you

Curtsy. 

[Lilith]

I can't imagine.  I was a fan and member for many years at C2C, tried hard to keep interested even after the CoastRiders forum was closed down, but alas I did not succeed.  I listen to all of John B. Wells Programs now on CaravanToMidnight, and can hardly wait to hear Art again real soon !!!!! 

[Nick el Ass]

I can't imagine.  I was a fan and member for many years at C2C, tried hard to keep interested even after the CoastRiders forum was closed down, but alas I did not succeed.  I listen to all of John B. Wells Programs now on CaravanToMidnight, and can hardly wait to hear Art again real soon !!!!! 

I'm willing to believe that JBW did get the boot from C2C because he was getting better ratings than Noory. I can't listen to the guy anymore, and July can't get here soon enough. Art is the man.


/Welcome, Brig.

[Lilith]

I'm willing to believe that JBW did get the boot from C2C because he was getting better ratings than Noory. I can't listen to the guy anymore, and July can't get here soon enough. Art is the man.


/Welcome, Brig.

Thank You for the Welcome Nick el Ass

[Nick el Ass]

Thank You for the Welcome Nick el Ass

You are welcome. Post often, and the Art Bell thread is always fun.

[Lilith]

You are welcome. Post often, and the Art Bell thread is always fun.

I have to tell you,  I haven't giggled so much in YEARS, as I have just browsing around reading threads on this forum. I live alone in an apartment building and worry that my neighbors may think I have lost my mind, hearing me in my apartment, laughing out loud every couple of minutes or so.......I have a lot of catching up to do 

[Yorkshire pud]

I have to tell you,  I haven't giggled so much in YEARS, as I have just browsing around reading threads on this forum. I live alone in an apartment building and worry that my neighbors may think I have lost my mind, hearing me in my apartment, laughing out loud every couple of minutes or so.......I have a lot of catching up to do 

No!!! Save yourself now! If the BG sucks you in you'll be damaged for ever. You'll be better off subscribing to forums that cater for wallpaper watching, repairing shattered glass and collecting polythene bags of special interest. There's no value whatsoever in this website, NONE!! Ask MV, he'll tell you the same....



Post often though.

[Lilith]

Post often though.

I'm trying...lol's 

[Nick el Ass]

I have to tell you,  I haven't giggled so much in YEARS, as I have just browsing around reading threads on this forum. I live alone in an apartment building and worry that my neighbors may think I have lost my mind, hearing me in my apartment, laughing out loud every couple of minutes or so.......I have a lot of catching up to do 

I'm convinced a few older posters have ended up in straightjackets, or worse because of such things on this forum. The other day I wake up everyone in a three mile radius while in the GNS thread, but BellGab really is the best forum in the world... and there are some really smart members.

[trapper]

He comes cheap and doesn't rock the boat.

yep, just like obama

[Robert]

5)  We as disgruntled listeners don't do enough to let the powers that be know how dissatisfied we are.  Now, by that, I don't mean this Website, which is often more entertaining than the actual show, nor do I mean the drooling, knuckle-dragging suits and bean counters that make up the Coast to Coast corporate family of incompetent numbskulls.  I mean we don't communicate our disdain to the show's dubious collective of sponsors by telling them, for instance, that we will simply not purchase their products, no matter how many times they are advertised on Coast to Coast, so long as the suckage continues.  That is really the only way to get someone like Noory deposed because no one there cares beyond the dollars what's on so long as people are listening.  However, if people are listening but not buying the products -- and more importantly, going out of their way not to buy the products -- then there would be someone's attention captured . . . especially if the same folks were telling others to avoid purchasing the products.

How do you go out of your way to not buy Carnivora or a C. Crane radio?

If C2C were sponsored by Sunoco, you could make it a point to gas up at Mobil.  If they were sponsored by Ivory soap, you could go slightly out of your way to buy Palmolive.  If it were Burger King, you could patronize McDonald's.  But C2C's sponsors are pretty much boycott-proof.  Businesses with major competitors would avoid C2C for its subject matter alone, plus they're probably placing their ads more prominently than overnight radio anyway.

40 yrs. ago, the major network late night talk was Larry King.  (Before that there was "Nightcap", a program carried by a few clear channel stations whose audiences consisted mostly of long-haul truckers, night watchmen, & sick insomniacs, and their content consisted mostly of phone-in small talk.  I'm not exaggerating, they would have people talk about their local weather, illnesses in their family, how the crops were doing, etc.)  For at least the 1st few yrs., the only ads Larry King's show ran were promos for Mutual programming and ads for products owned by RKO General -- General Tire & Amway.  It took years for them to get any outside sponsorship at all, and then it trickled in.

Our situation is like trying to move a feather with a noodle.  The feather should be very easy to move, because it has practically no weight, but the noodle we have to poke it with is ineffective to do even that.

[Robert]

No one is willing to turn him off because there is nothing else on the radio at that hour of the night. I fall asleep listening to the radio. That's how I found Art Bell, channel surfing for something interesting to doze off to. Although, as soon as I found Art I stopped sleeping.

In New York City, the trail was blazed for C2C by the "Conspiracy Radio" program (not its official name, but a slogan the co-hosts sometimes referred to it by) of John Bachelor & Paul Alexander.  They did a few specials late at night, then a weekend late night program.  Then Paul Alexander went his own way, and John Bachelor took something like the reverse of Art Bell's path, moving from fringe topics to more conventional informational programming, and away from late night to a 9 PM start.  Meanwhile the station substituted C2C for their late night slot.  ISTR they alternated for a while.  That's how I started listening.

John Bachelor's program is still very interesting, BTW.  Often he acts as a political shill, though.

[Robert]

He's also reliable which for whatever reason is something Art has not seemed to master yet.  The only time Jorch wasn't able to host his regularly scheduled show in recent years was when he swallowed the Pizza Roll. I don't count the Fridays he's not there since he preplans those so he can use up his year's worth of vacation days.

That's the trouble: the commitment, especially to be up in the middle of night after night.

In the 1980s I thought about hosting a talk show regularly as a volunteer on some nearby college station, having on guests & talking myself about the scientific & political stuff that interested me.  (At that time I especially wanted to give exposure to libertarians.)  Since childhood I was admired for my great delivery, & I even thought it might be a stepping stone to an alternate career.  But then I considered what a commitment it would be to be able to fill even an hour on a regular schedule.  Too much.

That's the limiting factor for WFMU (which was a higher level than what I aspired to when I thought about doing a program).  They do have a lot of people who want to be on, so it's fairly easy for them to get fill-ins for their on-air personalities (mostly DJs but some talkers too), but it's still a major commitment.  I don't think WFMU has ever had a host fill a 3-hour block with talk any time of day or the week, although about a year ago DJ Dan Bodah started talking at his 1st mic break & wound up ranting on for the remaining 2 & a half hrs.; it's different when it's spontaneous like that.

The difference with C2C is that C2C pays, but I bet it doesn't pay that much for that required level of commitment.

[ItsOver]

I'm sure I could surf the net and say "of course!" throughout the night for half a mil a year.

[Paradox]

. . . 4)  No one has offered anything to compete with the crapfest that is now Coast to Coast.  With Art Bell's show's demise, there is sadly nothing even remotely on par with Coast to Coast as a brand, nor does there appear to be any competitor in the offing.  Until that happens, a dumbbell like Noory can continue to do pretty much anything he wants without fear of any significant change. . .

I agree with Juan.  More than any other reason I believe this is exactly why he keeps on. First off he has a captive audience.  And sometimes interspersed with the infomercial shows they do offer a Coast worthy topic or two.  I cannot tell you how many times I have seen comments from people who listen on nights when the topic is one they are fond of, cryptids, UFOs, paranormal.  More and more they are expressing disappointment during the show.  They know the host is weak, but hope they will get a fresh perspective on the subject matter from the guest.  That never happens as the host always seems to quash anything fresh.  You can listen to the same guest being interviewed on an internet show with a different host who isn't afraid to ask questions or let the guest speak out and it is a totally different experience. Usually it is a better show, with a good dialogue and sharing of ideas, information and theories. 

I have no idea why Dave has the fan base he does, but he does.  Or maybe that's all an illusion.  And as for all those stations he says are on board, many of them no longer carry C2C.  It is a sad state of affairs for those of us who have been listening for a long time.  Noobs to Coast have no idea why we are so vitriolic towards Dave or PremRat and we are often castigated for speaking our minds about the incompetence of the current full time host and the resulting demise of Coast.  They have guaranteed themselves at least somewhat of station count by contracting with iHeart.  Circling the wagons?

July is coming up fast.  It is my hope that MITD converts many noobs and grows exponentially globally.  Well, not so fast that Keith, Art and Dr. J are overwhelmed.    And I don't care if Art has to take a night off every now and then because his back is especially troublesome that night.  And I don't care if at some point he has to cut back on the number of nights he does a show.  He was and is the consummate host.  It is what he was born to do and he does it better than anyone else.  So if age, health, or life diminish his abilities a bit I don't care.  He will still be head and shoulders above everyone else and listening to him will be a joy.

[Robert]

I cannot tell you how many times I have seen comments from people who listen on nights when the topic is one they are fond of, cryptids, UFOs, paranormal.  More and more they are expressing disappointment during the show.  They know the host is weak, but hope they will get a fresh perspective on the subject matter from the guest.  That never happens as the host always seems to quash anything fresh.

C2C w Noory is far from alone in that regard.  I used to listen to Steve Mahlzberg here in NYC.  IMO Steve Mahlzberg is awful as a m.c., in some ways worse than Noory, but it was in an interview + phone-ins format, and I'm convinced Mahlzberg's producer was a genius.  He had on many guests I really wanted to hear, and try as he might, Mahlzberg couldn't completely ruin it.  It was a bother to have to listen to Mahlzberg, but I put up with it if he had a good guest on, which was frequently, which I attribute to his producer.

Similarly, Larry King seemed to contribute nothing to his radio program, and seemed to try to quash anything fresh, but he had on lots of people I wanted to hear from about the things they wanted to talk about, & King couldn't completely ruin it.

You can listen to the same guest being interviewed on an internet show with a different host who isn't afraid to ask questions or let the guest speak out and it is a totally different experience. Usually it is a better show, with a good dialogue and sharing of ideas, information and theories.

Ah, but how often can you listen to the same guest on an Internet or other show, who's interesting?  Noory has on a bunch of regulars who bore me, but also some good ones.  Where else do they turn up?  As eager as many people are for publicity, it still doesn't seem that they find it that easily, and it also seems that many are eager to go on C2C but not elsewhere.

I remember a period that seems to have ended a couple yrs. ago or so when the same guest would turn up on C2C with different emcees a short time apart, and the different emcees didn't know it (except sometimes when a phoner-in told them).  There was an apparent lack of coordination between the production staffs.  I liked when that happened, because usually one of the interviewers would've been Noory, & I liked having another C2C emcee get a crack at the guest.  But they seem to have put a stop to that, so that now when Noory gets someone, they can go back on w Noory but not another emcee.  Part of that may be just that Noory's running out of guests.

[Paradox]

C2C w Noory is far from alone in that regard.  I used to listen to Steve Mahlzberg here in NYC.  IMO Steve Mahlzberg is awful as a m.c., in some ways worse than Noory, but it was in an interview + phone-ins format, and I'm convinced Mahlzberg's producer was a genius.  He had on many guests I really wanted to hear, and try as he might, Mahlzberg couldn't completely ruin it.  It was a bother to have to listen to Mahlzberg, but I put up with it if he had a good guest on, which was frequently, which I attribute to his producer.

Similarly, Larry King seemed to contribute nothing to his radio program, and seemed to try to quash anything fresh, but he had on lots of people I wanted to hear from about the things they wanted to talk about, & King couldn't completely ruin it.

Since I am not in NY I didn't have to try to listen to Mahlzberg.  Gave up trying to listen to Larry King centuries ago. I have noticed TV newscasters who obviously went to the Dave School of Journalism and Communication.  Don't watch when they are on either.

Ah, but how often can you listen to the same guest on an Internet or other show, who's interesting?  Noory has on a bunch of regulars who bore me, but also some good ones.  Where else do they turn up?  As eager as many people are for publicity, it still doesn't seem that they find it that easily, and it also seems that many are eager to go on C2C but not elsewhere.

Honestly?  A lot of the Coast regulars are guests on these small internet shows and the interviews are much about better 80% of the time.  I have heard 'new' guests on Coast on internet shows one week to several weeks BEFORE they were on Coast.  There are some Coast regulars who seem to be under contract to Coast, but if I find them interesting and want to learn what they are up to or their latest news I can go to their websites.

I remember a period that seems to have ended a couple yrs. ago or so when the same guest would turn up on C2C with different emcees a short time apart, and the different emcees didn't know it (except sometimes when a phoner-in told them).  There was an apparent lack of coordination between the production staffs.  I liked when that happened, because usually one of the interviewers would've been Noory, & I liked having another C2C emcee get a crack at the guest.  But they seem to have put a stop to that, so that now when Noory gets someone, they can go back on w Noory but not another emcee.  Part of that may be just that Noory's running out of guests.

Or they don't want him to lose face.
I still say the dude should stay in the background and coordinate things.  Isn't that what he won his awards for?  Or maybe he got the awards by default by just being a member of a good team who created something notable and carried the project to completion despite him.