dreamland

[wr250]

i see dreamland on DMRN. i wonder if its the strieber version, or arts old shows. im 100% certain that both art and keith have all those shows...
im not sure on who actually owns them, strieber,art, or premier. 

[wr250]

strieber bleh

[jazmunda]

strieber weeber bleh

Fixed it for you. 

[The Neverender]

I wish he would stop name dropping his wife's illness... Do the interview... Or don't do the interview and spend the time being there for her.... Idk... Maybe I'm just being a dick

[Tarbaby]

What little I've followed Streiber over the years, I found him in the early years intriguing, impassioned. But after a while I noticed he was deeply clinically disturbed. Eventually I felt worried for his safety. In some ways he's his own worst enemy. Still, a gifted story-teller. But is it a gift or a curse?

[RoseGirl]

What little I've followed Streiber over the years, I found him in the early years intriguing, impassioned. But after a while I noticed he was deeply clinically disturbed. Eventually I felt worried for his safety. In some ways he's his own worst enemy. Still, a gifted story-teller. But is it a gift or a curse?

Well now, you've got a lot of hate going on there. Good luck with that. Any particular reason you are trying to discredit Whitley Streiber, or is it just plain meanness?

Just wondering.

PS: Oh and yes, Mr. Neverending....It's official: you're just being a dick.

[TheMan WhoFell ToEarth]

I wasn't aware there was anything left of Whitley to discredit.

[RoseGirl]

I wasn't aware there was anything left of Whitley to discredit.

Not quite sure what you are talking about. Did he do something wrong?

[West of the Rockies]

Hey, RoseGirl... There are a great many people who regard Streiber as nothing more than a grifter of paranormal content.  They do not believe that Communion was anything other than fiction.  I have nothing against him discussing his wife's illness; hell, I think of that as a mark of authenticity.  But I can't say I think the man has any first-hand knowledge of anything extraterrestrial anymore than I do.  Just my opinion.  (JMP)

[TheMan WhoFell ToEarth]

I certainly lean more to the deranged side of things considering his constant harping on anal probing.

[RoseGirl]

Hey, RoseGirl... There are a great many people who regard Streiber as nothing more than a grifter of paranormal content.  They do not believe that Communion was anything other than fiction.  I have nothing against him discussing his wife's illness; hell, I think of that as a mark of authenticity.  But I can't say I think the man has any first-hand knowledge of anything extraterrestrial anymore than I do.  Just my opinion.  (JMP)

Nope, nope, nope....sorry but you'll have to come up with something better than 'a great many people think so'. Lots of people have had UFO experiences and they are taken seriously...why are his not accepted?

[RoseGirl]

I certainly lean more to the deranged side of things considering his constant harping on anal probing.

Yep, 'figured you'd say something like that.

[nooryisawesome]

Actually Whitley is a good get for DMRN. Compared to a couple of other host, the shows quality is a ton better. It is listenable too. DMRN has come a long way. WIth Church, Steve, and Whitley it actually has some talent.

[RoseGirl]

Actually Whitley is a good get for DMRN. Compared to a couple of other host, the shows quality is a ton better. It is listenable too. DMRN has come a long way. WIth Church, Steve, and Whitley it actually has some talent.

There ya go....totally agree. DMRN is lookin' pretty derned spiffy, if ya ask me. And I have always enjoyed and trusted Streiber too. 'Course, it would be tons better if it still had my show, but we can't have EVERYTHING, now can we? lol

rosie

[West of the Rockies]

Nope, nope, nope....sorry but you'll have to come up with something better than 'a great many people think so'. Lots of people have had UFO experiences and they are taken seriously...why are his not accepted?

So I'm not entitled to an opinion but you are?  Is that how it works then?

Streiber has made millions on his "experience"; to me, that smacks of someone selling something.  Rosegirl, maybe something really did happen to Streiber.  Lots of people clearly have seen things in the sky -- not all of those things are, however, alien spacecrafts.  Streiber, like others, claims to have been abducted.  He has scant evidence to support his claim.  I know someone who claims to have shared some beef jerky with Bigfoot.  Should I believe him?

All I ask for is a little bit of empirical evidence; with the lack of such evidence, I am disinclined to believe.  You want me to prove a negative:  to prove that Streiber did not see/experience something.  I can't do so, I will readily admit.

Anyway, Streiber's stories are certainly entertaining to many people.  Good on him.

[RoseGirl]

So I'm not entitled to an opinion but you are?  Is that how it works then?

Streiber has made millions on his "experience"; to me, that smacks of someone selling something.  Rosegirl, maybe something really did happen to Streiber.  Lots of people clearly have seen things in the sky -- not all of those things are, however, alien spacecrafts.  Streiber, like others, claims to have been abducted.  He has scant evidence to support his claim.  I know someone who claims to have shared some beef jerky with Bigfoot.  Should I believe him?

All I ask for is a little bit of empirical evidence; with the lack of such evidence, I am disinclined to believe.  You want me to prove a negative:  to prove that Streiber did not see/experience something.  I can't do so, I will readily admit.

Anyway, Streiber's stories are certainly entertaining to many people.  Good on him.

So...lots of people have had abduction experiences without empirical evidence and that's okay. Whitley? Not so much, eh?

Course, there is that pesky ear implant thing...and other people did witness the same events at his cabin, but I digress.

I think Whitley has had an awfully bad time with the UFO community, and for no good reason other than he is good at telling his story. I have had very similar experiences to Whitley and I know, for a fact....perhaps not empirically, but still a fact...that what he says is true.

Oh and by the way....Mr. FellFromSomewhere....there are very few people on this planet that can tell you this, so listen up: the anal probe is NOT a medical procedure; it is about accessing the Kundalini energy from the root chakra. I know you won't understand that....but there it is, um-empirically and everything.

[West of the Rockies]

Hey, Rosegirl... for what it's worth (probably nothing) and in the words of Fox Mulder's famous poster, I want to believe.  Paranormal stuff is why I found myself on this forum.  I also believe in science.  Actually, I should rephrase that.  One does not "believe" in science.  That's like "believing in gravity".  Science is fact-based.  The edges are a bit speculative, too.  There are also, very occasionally, events that seem to occur which are beyond the ability of science (as we presently comprehend it) to explain.  Things like ESP, ghostly visitations and such...  I've never personally had any sort of ghostly paranormal experience; I've never seen a UFO or a chubacabra, never dined with a skinwalker.   And yet, conversations about EVP, cryptozoological creatures, and alien visitations are often very entertaining, compelling...

But in this world where, as P.T. Barnum said, "a sucker is born every minute", and lots of people make loads of money by hawking compelling stories, by spinning mistruths (see AM talk radio), selling "pet rocks", providing intrusive and dangerous cosmetic surgery, well, I want at least a modicum of proof.  Call me crazy....  Oh, and I get that Streiber and others offer anecdotal evidence.  But we also know that there are people who work in teams to pull the wool over our eyes:  those who produce crop circles, create film "proof" of Bigfoot, and such.  For you, Streiber's story is clearly compelling.  For me, not so much.  That's all... nothing to get into a dustup over....

[Yorkshire pud]

it is about accessing the Kundalini energy from the root chakra. I know you won't understand that....but there it is, um-empirically and everything.

There: Up to that point you were 50/50, but the above is; How can I put this? Something from Lord of the Rings and Warcraft where the characters have names without vowels. So for the unenlightened and downright ignorant, please tell us the origins of the above statement. Then explain what it means,

Ta.

[RoseGirl]

There: Up to that point you were 50/50, but the above is; How can I put this? Something from Lord of the Rings and Warcraft where the characters have names without vowels. So for the unenlightened and downright ignorant, please tell us the origins of the above statement. Then explain what it means,

Ta.

lol too freakin' funny! You have no idea what the Lord of the Rings is actually a story of or what it's metaphors mean, do you? One simple hint: the 'rings' are the rings of Saturn and the lord of the rings is Saturn itself...that is why the image of the 'all seeing eye' actually looks like the planet Saturn. Returning the first ring to it original source is what Saturn's rings actually do from time to time; and those are times when, astrologically, the world changes. Ask Galileo. lol

And about the Kundalini....sorry, I said it: I shouldn't have. So just forget about it.

[RoseGirl]

Hey, Rosegirl... for what it's worth (probably nothing) and in the words of Fox Mulder's famous poster, I want to believe.  Paranormal stuff is why I found myself on this forum.  I also believe in science.  Actually, I should rephrase that.  One does not "believe" in science.  That's like "believing in gravity".  Science is fact-based.  The edges are a bit speculative, too.  There are also, very occasionally, events that seem to occur which are beyond the ability of science (as we presently comprehend it) to explain.  Things like ESP, ghostly visitations and such...  I've never personally had any sort of ghostly paranormal experience; I've never seen a UFO or a chubacabra, never dined with a skinwalker.   And yet, conversations about EVP, cryptozoological creatures, and alien visitations are often very entertaining, compelling...

But in this world where, as P.T. Barnum said, "a sucker is born every minute", and lots of people make loads of money by hawking compelling stories, by spinning mistruths (see AM talk radio), selling "pet rocks", providing intrusive and dangerous cosmetic surgery, well, I want at least a modicum of proof.  Call me crazy....  Oh, and I get that Streiber and others offer anecdotal evidence.  But we also know that there are people who work in teams to pull the wool over our eyes:  those who produce crop circles, create film "proof" of Bigfoot, and such.  For you, Streiber's story is clearly compelling.  For me, not so much.  That's all... nothing to get into a dustup over....

Teams of people working against the truth aside.....I would love to be a fly on the wall when you finally realize that science is the one suckering you in.

[West of the Rockies]

lol too freakin' funny! You have no idea what the Lord of the Rings is actually a story of or what it's metaphors mean, do you? One simple hint: the 'rings' are the rings of Saturn and the lord of the rings is Saturn itself...that is why the image of the 'all seeing eye' actually looks like the planet Saturn. Returning the first ring to it original source is what Saturn's rings actually do from time to time; and those are times when, astrologically, the world changes. Ask Galileo. lol

And about the Kundalini....sorry, I said it: I shouldn't have. So just forget about it.

I do NOT think I have all the answers... nonetheless, as someone who's taught composition and literature and been an avid LOTR reader for many years, I urge you to ponder what Tolkien himself and other lit/religion professors say LOTR actually is about -- and it ain't Saturn. 

I'm out.  This conversation has become tedious and utterly pointless.  Seek professional help.

[West of the Rockies]

Teams of people working against the truth aside.....I would love to be a fly on the wall when you finally realize that science is the one suckering you in.

Whatever... Science is my girlfriend.

[RoseGirl]

I do NOT think I have all the answers... nonetheless, as someone who's taught composition and literature and been an avid LOTR reader for many years, I urge you to ponder what Tolkien himself and other lit/religion professors say LOTR actually is about -- and it ain't Saturn. 

I'm out.  This conversation has become tedious and utterly pointless.  Seek professional help.

Tolkien was extremely well-versed in the occult. Extremely. He used many, many occult symbols, metaphors and hidden references. I am not at all surprised that lit/religion professors interpret it so differently. It's a story about the occult, about the Saturnian cults of the past and it is a metaphoric retelling of actual events. Sorry, but it is.

Seek spiritual help.

[RoseGirl]

Whatever... Science is my girlfriend.

lol good for you....now go make science an honest woman.

[RoseGirl]

You know what? My apologies to everyone. I know I sound a bit like a snit but *sigh*....I get so tired of people that have been told what to think telling me what they think. It gets so annoying after a while.

I don't mean to sound arrogant...really I don't. I would just like to talk about things with at least a little bit....the tiniest little bit...of open-mindedness and respect for life other than with that which is witnessed through the ever-narrowing eyes of science.

I'll stop being such a heretic now. Promise.

[Yorkshire pud]

lol too freakin' funny! You have no idea what the Lord of the Rings is actually a story of or what it's metaphors mean, do you? One simple hint: the 'rings' are the rings of Saturn and the lord of the rings is Saturn itself...that is why the image of the 'all seeing eye' actually looks like the planet Saturn. Returning the first ring to it original source is what Saturn's rings actually do from time to time; and those are times when, astrologically, the world changes. Ask Galileo. lol

And about the Kundalini....sorry, I said it: I shouldn't have. So just forget about it.

Galileo is dead...Lord of the Rings is fiction.

[RoseGirl]

Galileo is dead...Lord of the Rings is fiction.

Yes, I know Galileo is dead. What I was making reference to was his description of the first time he, or any human eyes, had seen the planet Saturn. After seeing Saturn's astonishing rings for the first time, he did not write or speak about it for the better part of a year. It was too frightening, too 'otherworldly' to be spoken about.

Some things never change, eh?

[awake]

You know what? My apologies to everyone. I know I sound a bit like a snit but *sigh*....I get so tired of people that have been told what to think telling me what they think. It gets so annoying after a while.

I don't mean to sound arrogant...really I don't. I would just like to talk about things with at least a little bit....the tiniest little bit...of open-mindedness and respect for life other than with that which is witnessed through the ever-narrowing eyes of science.

I'll stop being such a heretic now. Promise.

go with your bliss but the claims are extraordinary and the guy is squishy on details.  The ear thing, he went to a doc who is a ufo believer and now he refuses to have anyone else remove the thing.  Squishy.  He claims eywitnesses to his cabin stores, people who aren't ufo-iles, but he hasn't named these folks in the interviews I've heard on c2c.  Squishy.  The worst part of listening to the fellow for me is he seems to be whining quite a bit.  He's not taken seriously.  The probing.  His wife.  It just seems to go on.

[West of the Rockies]

I admire anyone who can apologize for behavior/words they regret... I know I have apologized once or twice on this forum.  I probably come off as a pontificating person from time to time.  But I think most of us are open-minded here, Rosegirl; otherwise, we wouldn't be listening to Coast to Coast/Art Bell.  Streiber's book was a HUGE bestseller and was turned into a commercially successful motion picture.  Obviously, a lot of people found his story to be very interesting.  Anyway, cheers... keep posting.