The Fret Files: the guitar workshop podcast

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jazmunda

I often wonder if part of your audience is made up of people who found the podcast because they were seeking a show about anxiety. :P

The General

Quote from: jazmunda on July 18, 2014, 03:51:48 PM
I often wonder if part of your audience is made up of people who found the podcast because they were seeking a show about anxiety. :P
I'll take what I can get.


Heather Wade

Quote from: MV on July 18, 2014, 04:11:54 PM
or you could type FretFiles.com which is a bit sexier.

I love a sexy hyperlink on Friday, mmm mmmm.





MV/Liberace!

Quote from: jazmunda on July 18, 2014, 03:51:48 PM
I often wonder if part of your audience is made up of people who found the podcast because they were seeking a show about anxiety. :P

so it isn't a podcast about anxiety?

The General

Quote from: MV on July 20, 2014, 02:27:58 AM
so it isn't a podcast about anxiety?

It's starting to get that way.

BY THE WAY, do any of you have any "Guitar Center" horror stories? Send them in to the podcast for the upcoming"Guitar Center Horror Stories" segment... tell your story at 757-774-8482... I'll use your story in an upcoming episode.

Just now finished listening to Number 6.  Sorry so late.

Another one smacked smoking right out of the park, General.... even knocking out the neon BATES MOTEL sign down and across the road.

This was a funny Dr. Victor Frankenstein moment:

The trick that I use is that I suspend them above vinegar in a sealed container...

If you leave them in there long enough, man, they'll turn green...

I won't reveal what you were discussing.  The curious will just have to download.

The interview with Doug Tulloch about him and his book Neptune Bound was absolutely bad ass and informative.

I loved hearing about using every bit of the bison when the Danelectro company used the grindings from the aluminum nuts as sparkles in the paint.

Good to hear Red's announcement about Death/Deaf Dealer's unreleased album - Journey Into Fear - finally officially surfacing after nearly three decades of subterranean navigation, as that falls into my somewhat schizoid taste in music.

Well done, my friend. You continue to outdo yourself.


Movement Key : CC3

The General

Quote from: Camazotz Automat on August 18, 2014, 07:00:41 AM
Just now finished listening to Number 6.  Sorry so late.

Another one smacked smoking right out of the park, General.... even knocking out the neon BATES MOTEL sign down and across the road.

This was a funny Dr. Victor Frankenstein moment:

The trick that I use is that I suspend them above vinegar in a sealed container...

If you leave them in there long enough, man, they'll turn green...

I won't reveal what you were discussing.  The curious will just have to download.

The interview with Doug Tulloch about him and his book Neptune Bound was absolutely bad ass and informative.

I loved hearing about using every bit of the bison when the Danelectro company used the grindings from the aluminum nuts as sparkles in the paint.

Good to hear Red's announcement about Death/Deaf Dealer's unreleased album - Journey Into Fear - finally officially surfacing after nearly three decades of subterranean navigation, as that falls into my somewhat schizoid taste in music.

Well done, my friend. You continue to outdo yourself.


Movement Key : CC3

Thanks Cam.  That interview with Doug Tulloch was fun.  I really enjoyed that.  Glad you did too.  I guess it's time to do another show.  It's hard to get motivated to do them when I have so much other stuff to do that people want to give me money for.  This podcast generates exactly zero dollars.  Perhaps it helps spread the word about my repair services, but at this point it is really just being done for the love of it.

KEY: B FLAT

Bart Ell

Quote from: Camazotz Automat on August 18, 2014, 07:00:41 AM
Good to hear Red's announcement about Death/Deaf Dealer's unreleased album - Journey Into Fear - finally officially surfacing after nearly three decades of subterranean navigation, as that falls into my somewhat schizoid taste in music.

http://youtu.be/ixvQqFqqBUE

I saw Deaf Dealer live dozens of times, even saw them at their rehearsal space a few times back in 86-ish as a teen. I remember showing up one Friday to see them to find out the ride was over. Mercury shelved the release and the band was done. While I felt they were a little too influenced by Iron Maiden they were the tightest live band I ever saw.

They recorded a few other songs that weren't on the bootleg version of Journey Into Fear. The best of those was Just One More Day.

There is also a live bootleg floating around of their last show ever that is beyond incredible.

Quote from: The General on August 18, 2014, 10:11:33 AM
Thanks Cam.  That interview with Doug Tulloch was fun.  I really enjoyed that.  Glad you did too.  I guess it's time to do another show.  It's hard to get motivated to do them when I have so much other stuff to do that people want to give me money for.  This podcast generates exactly zero dollars.  Perhaps it helps spread the word about my repair services, but at this point it is really just being done for the love of it.

KEY: B FLAT

I understand your concern(s) perfectly. Your shows tend to be so information dense that, personally, I would be satiated with every other month. Easy. Just one of your shows leads me into research in multiple directions. I haven't  even learned enough about vintage potentiometers yet.

The Spec Sheet is a different beast and covers so many current topics that I really like having it for a weekly fix. Whenever in doubt, I say go for the money tasks and let the love tasks take a backseat for a while. Just my opinion.

It would be a perfect world if you could monetize the podcasts. What about experimenting with charging .99 for it to be downloaded from iTunes only? Plenty would pay in a heartbeat metronome beat. I'm not familiar with what percentage share goes to Apple, but it might be something to consider. I would finally have an excuse to purchase something from iTunes.


Quote from: Bart Ell on August 18, 2014, 10:22:46 AM
They recorded a few other songs that weren't on the bootleg version of Journey Into Fear. The best of those was Just One More Day.

There is also a live bootleg floating around of their last show ever that is beyond incredible.

Thanks for the info, Bart.

Movement Key :  C3


Heather Wade

Quote from: Camazotz Automat on August 18, 2014, 07:00:41 AM

Good to hear Red's announcement about Death/Deaf Dealer's unreleased album - Journey Into Fear - finally officially surfacing after nearly three decades of subterranean navigation, as that falls into my somewhat schizoid taste in music.

Movement Key : CC3

I knew it would, Cam.   8)

Look out for August's episode very soon.





G

I'm listening to Lucky Number 7 at this very moment, but had to pause it.

My profound apologies for not specifying "acoustic" regarding the old Silvertone. I probably "thought it" but certainly didn't type it. A common malady of mine that in this case created a lot of confusion while you were visualizing the electric beauty pictured on ufoship.com

Thank you for your kind words and all the information on what cleansers/treatments to use on the fingerboard as well as on the painted surface and for confirming that metal strings are the correct vocal chords for this little Silvertone angel.  I also enjoyed my question being censored/bleeped. That was great.

What originally put the hornet in my Hooker Headers was something Red had said in another podcast about vintage acoustic guitars in storage warping due to tight strings. I think she said it in sort of a passing way and I may have misunderstood what she meant.

That's why I was oscillating between how/why/if an acoustic's neck would not warp while in regular use versus longterm storage. The more I thought about it, the more I started wondering what kept an acoustic neck from significantly warping due to string tension when it wasn't in storage, i.e., in "real time" so to speak.

Perhaps Red was referring to really long stretches of time, and that, combined with humidity and temperature and tight strings might warp an acoustic neck more so than if the strings had been loosened?

The guitar on ufoship.com is stunning. I WISH I had purchased such a guitar for ten dollars. Though I still believe I practically stole the one I bought for ten from the CEO. He was the original owner, or I should say, his daughter was and they had left it in the attic for years. It's in amazingly good shape, all things considered. Just a cheap guitar with a good spirit in the wood. I don't see myself ever letting it out of my possession.

The aural confluence created by adding your wife into the mix was podcast alchemy, sir.  An absolute perfect method to demarcate the conversation.

I'm only twenty-five minutes into it, yet confident I'm riding a consistent wave of tube driven hum heaven.

Something I really enjoy about the Spec Sheet is MV and themudking bouncing their voices at each other. I know they enjoy getting calls, but as long as the two of them are ping ponging, it's already working, calls or no. Similar to MV against EvB's voice on the Train Wreck podcasts. I still miss EvB.

Art Bell might have been an exception to this. I enjoyed listening to him talk solo for great lengths of time about nothing in particular, just "Observational radio." His monologues were especially cool if listened to while taking an after midnight drive away from light pollution (the closest thing to space travel I will ever experience.)

MV and themudking's distinct differences in tones and inflection creates a "point cloud" of sorts in my mind†††  You are accomplishing same with your wife's participation. More scaffolding onto which to hang more guitar data. It's truly hard to believe this is only your seventh show.

One final point, before I listen to the rest of the show. When you spoke of your five position rotary selector "cap lie detector" I was laughing so hard my eyes were stinging.

"I defy anyone to plug into that box and tell me that they can hear a difference."

hahahahaha

What is so funny about this is that YOU KNOW there are those out there who will still disagree, despite any proof staring them right in the ears. (frankly, those types of people worry me)

Back when you initially brought up your lie detector, I mentioned your box to an associate, who up until very recently, worked at a Guitar Center store. He started laughing immediately and agreed there is no difference. I hope I am not repeating myself here, but don't want to hunt down my old post/reaction to that particular show.

Again, sorry for the "guitar type" mix up. My bad. But it still made for good talk radio, when you immediately realized something was askew when asked about nylon strings. I could almost hear your possible thoughts: "Cam doesn't realize nylon won't register on the pickups? What the hell?" hahaha

Definitely a Lucky Number 7.

††† http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_cloud

MA

Quote from: Bart Ell on August 24, 2014, 12:54:05 PM
From deep in the Ell Archives...

As The Tick might say: "Keen!" 

Thanks, Bart.

- - -

And to those interested, the guitar image from ufoship.com I referenced above:


Heather Wade

Quote from: Camazotz Automat on August 29, 2014, 03:24:22 AM
G
What originally put the hornet in my Hooker Headers was something Red had said in another podcast about vintage acoustic guitars in storage warping due to tight strings. I think she said it in sort of a passing way and I may have misunderstood what she meant.

That's why I was oscillating between how/why/if an acoustic's neck would not warp while in regular use versus longterm storage. The more I thought about it, the more I started wondering what kept an acoustic neck from significantly warping due to string tension when it wasn't in storage, i.e., in "real time" so to speak.

Perhaps Red was referring to really long stretches of time, and that, combined with humidity and temperature and tight strings might warp an acoustic neck more so than if the strings had been loosened?


During normal use and string changes, the occasional truss rod adjustments are typically made.  Not so much in long term storage.   ;)

The General

Quote from: Camazotz Automat on August 29, 2014, 03:24:22 AM
G

I'm listening to Lucky Number 7 at this very moment, but had to pause it.

My profound apologies for not specifying "acoustic" regarding the old Silvertone. I probably "thought it" but certainly didn't type it. A common malady of mine that in this case created a lot of confusion while you were visualizing the electric beauty pictured on ufoship.com

Thank you for your kind words and all the information on what cleansers/treatments to use on the fingerboard as well as on the painted surface and for confirming that metal strings are the correct vocal chords for this little Silvertone angel.  I also enjoyed my question being censored/bleeped. That was great.


I'm thinking that this is your little angel...

[attachimg=1]

The word I bleeped wasn't even that bad.
I just thought it was much funnier with the bleep.
My wife's such a sweetheart.

Quote from: Camazotz Automat on August 29, 2014, 03:24:22 AM
G

What originally put the hornet in my Hooker Headers was something Red had said in another podcast about vintage acoustic guitars in storage warping due to tight strings. I think she said it in sort of a passing way and I may have misunderstood what she meant.

That's why I was oscillating between how/why/if an acoustic's neck would not warp while in regular use versus longterm storage. The more I thought about it, the more I started wondering what kept an acoustic neck from significantly warping due to string tension when it wasn't in storage, i.e., in "real time" so to speak.

Perhaps Red was referring to really long stretches of time, and that, combined with humidity and temperature and tight strings might warp an acoustic neck more so than if the strings had been loosened?


Well, my guess is that if the above guitar is similar to yours, you do not have an adjustable truss rod.  It surely has a steel reinforcement rod, but not an adjustable one.  These type of guitars are actually quite prone to warping, most of the Harmony made 50's and 60's archtops I see have at least a little warp in them.  And, sadly, there's no quick and easy way to adjust out the warp like you could on a guitar with an adjustable rod.  If it's warped bad enough, I have a heat press that I use to clamp the neck straight, heat it up and force the neck straight again.  It works pretty good.  It's tricky though, you have to get it really pretty hot, and if the neck has plastic inlays or plastic binding, you run the risk of melting them.  And a lot of these old guitars with no adjustable rods have a lot of plastic going on.  Yours may have painted on fret markings, though.  That's pretty common on old Harmony's and Silvertones.  But it's probably already warped.  Part of the problem is that people used very heavy strings back then, and those little guitars just couldn't take it.  Have you ever taken a look down your guitar neck and seen how straight it currently is?  And how's the action? 

Quote from: Camazotz Automat on August 29, 2014, 03:24:22 AM
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The guitar on ufoship.com is stunning. I WISH I had purchased such a guitar for ten dollars. Though I still believe I practically stole the one I bought for ten from the CEO. He was the original owner, or I should say, his daughter was and they had left it in the attic for years. It's in amazingly good shape, all things considered. Just a cheap guitar with a good spirit in the wood. I don't see myself ever letting it out of my possession.

The aural confluence created by adding your wife into the mix was podcast alchemy, sir.  An absolute perfect method to demarcate the conversation.

I'm only twenty-five minutes into it, yet confident I'm riding a consistent wave of tube driven hum heaven.

Something I really enjoy about the Spec Sheet is MV and themudking bouncing their voices at each other. I know they enjoy getting calls, but as long as the two of them are ping ponging, it's already working, calls or no. Similar to MV against EvB's voice on the Train Wreck podcasts. I still miss EvB.

Art Bell might have been an exception to this. I enjoyed listening to him talk solo for great lengths of time about nothing in particular, just "Observational radio." His monologues were especially cool if listened to while taking an after midnight drive away from light pollution (the closest thing to space travel I will ever experience.)

MV and themudking's distinct differences in tones and inflection creates a "point cloud" of sorts in my mind†††  You are accomplishing same with your wife's participation. More scaffolding onto which to hang more guitar data. It's truly hard to believe this is only your seventh show.


Well, thanks.  Like I said, my wife is such a sweetheart. 
I think it helps the show a lot to have her read the questions.
And I agree about MV, Curtis, and especially Art.

Quote from: Camazotz Automat on August 29, 2014, 03:24:22 AM
G

One final point, before I listen to the rest of the show. When you spoke of your five position rotary selector "cap lie detector" I was laughing so hard my eyes were stinging.

"I defy anyone to plug into that box and tell me that they can hear a difference."

hahahahaha

What is so funny about this is that YOU KNOW there are those out there who will still disagree, despite any proof staring them right in the ears. (frankly, those types of people worry me)

Back when you initially brought up your lie detector, I mentioned your box to an associate, who up until very recently, worked at a Guitar Center store. He started laughing immediately and agreed there is no difference. I hope I am not repeating myself here, but don't want to hunt down my old post/reaction to that particular show.


The day after I posted the podcast, I got a very interesting email...

"Hi,
I'm sitting here at work listening to the latest Fret Files podcast while I do audio testing on a $25k Audio Precision test system. You're talking about your "lie detector" box o' caps, and I'm wondering if you'd be interested in sending your box down the coast a ways, for a couple days.  I could set it up in the AP and run the tests (freq response, etc.) through each setting.
I've personally got no dog in the "fight" really, but I suppose I do lean more strongly in what I consider a common sense direction.
Thoughts?  interested?"

Hell yes!  So, coming soon to a future podcast, the results of the "Lie Detector" audio test.  He's doing the tests blind, he does not know what the 5 settings are, and what caps are inside. No matter what the results, there are people that will still dispute the findings - because they really believe that they can hear things in the tone of a guitar that a 25k dollar audio testing unit can't.  You just can't convince everyone.  I'm guessing that the people who will cling to their ideas about expensive capacitors are either selling them or recently bought some. 



Quote from: Camazotz Automat on August 29, 2014, 03:24:22 AM
G

Again, sorry for the "guitar type" mix up. My bad. But it still made for good talk radio, when you immediately realized something was askew when asked about nylon strings. I could almost hear your possible thoughts: "Cam doesn't realize nylon won't register on the pickups? What the hell?" hahaha

Definitely a Lucky Number 7.

††† http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_cloud

I knew you knew.  I just didn't know.  Now I do.
And that beautiful 3D rotating point cloud made me want a donut.
Breakfast time.  General out....

IJ JV

Quote from: The General on August 30, 2014, 10:18:29 AM
I'm thinking that this is your little angel...

You would be correct, sir.

Quote from: The General on August 30, 2014, 10:18:29 AM
The word I bleeped wasn't even that bad.
I just thought it was much funnier with the bleep.
My wife's such a sweetheart.


It was indeed funnier, because of the way you deadpanned about it being a family show, it sounded off the cuff, leaving people to wonder what awful thing crossed in my email. Truth be told, I wanted that bleep.


Quote from: The General on August 30, 2014, 10:18:29 AM
Well, my guess is that if the above guitar is similar to yours, you do not have an adjustable truss rod.  It surely has a steel reinforcement rod, but not an adjustable one.  These type of guitars are actually quite prone to warping, most of the Harmony made 50's and 60's archtops I see have at least a little warp in them.  And, sadly, there's no quick and easy way to adjust out the warp like you could on a guitar with an adjustable rod.  If it's warped bad enough, I have a heat press that I use to clamp the neck straight, heat it up and force the neck straight again.  It works pretty good.  It's tricky though, you have to get it really pretty hot, and if the neck has plastic inlays or plastic binding, you run the risk of melting them.  And a lot of these old guitars with no adjustable rods have a lot of plastic going on.  Yours may have painted on fret markings, though.  That's pretty common on old Harmony's and Silvertones.  But it's probably already warped.  Part of the problem is that people used very heavy strings back then, and those little guitars just couldn't take it.  Have you ever taken a look down your guitar neck and seen how straight it currently is?  And how's the action? 

The action? Well, at the 12th fret, you could drop a small dog through the space between fingerboard and strings. (you know, one of those little dogs from MONOPOLY.)

I verified with a strong magnet the presence of a non-adjustable metal support rod. The fret markings are painted white squares (and unfortunately, I've damaged the first two from playing so much.)

I honestly have no problem with fretting. That may be due to my hideously deformed hammer hands that have acclimated to the situation.

The neck is amazingly straight, though I do not have the critical eye present in Emerald City.  Maybe some suggestions on the next Fret Files for ways to check warping. Even if they sound common sense to you, but could be informative to a heathen such as myself.

I've used a spirit level in various ways. I've eyed from different perspectives. 

As a whole, the neck is slightly bowed upward.  Very very slight, bordering on an optical illusion. But there is really not very much desired arc area to pull that neck down were it heat pressed. In other words, it seems so correct relative to the body as it is now.  I would venture to guess the strings rode a little high on these models right out of the factory, though I have no idea.

If I look down the neck toward the body, I see a very very slight counterclockwise "lift" torque/twist of the neck, but bordering on invisible, though Pythagoras would be offended at intervals being thus compromised by harmonic inequality/distance to the perpendicular bridge. (or something like that)

Another question for a future show: since this is an acoustic, do you have any suggestions on how to record some of the wonderful sounds I hear when I rest my right ear on the body?  It's like the inside needs a microphone, but far up  toward the neck joint. I can't believe the sounds it makes.  You have to understand, I've always played electric guitars and probably should invest in a good acoustic, since I am obviously amazed at this humble Silvertone.

Quote from: The General on August 30, 2014, 10:18:29 AM
The day after I posted the podcast, I got a very interesting email...

"Hi,
I'm sitting here at work listening to the latest Fret Files podcast while I do audio testing on a $25k Audio Precision test system. You're talking about your "lie detector" box o' caps, and I'm wondering if you'd be interested in sending your box down the coast a ways, for a couple days.  I could set it up in the AP and run the tests (freq response, etc.) through each setting.
I've personally got no dog in the "fight" really, but I suppose I do lean more strongly in what I consider a common sense direction.
Thoughts?  interested?"

Hell yes!  So, coming soon to a future podcast, the results of the "Lie Detector" audio test.  He's doing the tests blind, he does not know what the 5 settings are, and what caps are inside. No matter what the results, there are people that will still dispute the findings - because they really believe that they can hear things in the tone of a guitar that a 25k dollar audio testing unit can't.  You just can't convince everyone.  I'm guessing that the people who will cling to their ideas about expensive capacitors are either selling them or recently bought some. 


I love that picture of the lie detector. What, is that a psionic machine to attack George Noory? Is it an Ed Dames BS detector? Wait, wait, wait.  Does it check various capacitors? Well, let's try it against Noory anyway. Concentrate...

I'm sending you a disruptive 3, George, to make you mispronounce "without any doubt, Tommy."

Ah, it's working.

The testing of your equipment is going to be absolute additional gold for the podcast.

The world is your humbucking oyster, General. (now there's an image)

If you haven't already, be sure to tell your wife I think she nailed it, and that future participation, when able, would be a plus in cracking open the aforementioned scatter@wound mollusk.

Before I forget, you may wish to casually tell her about your fantasy of recording an episode of the Fret Files in a vintage phone booth... a special ~reverb edition~ of the show as it were.

It's a vital, I daresay, critical experiment.

- - -

Well, as some of the more lackadaisical black ops agents say, "I've got to split for a little bit."

Bless the Beasts and the Bellgabbers.

Cam out.

saucerlike

Just wanted to pop in to say sorry for not posting my thoughts on the shows (good thoughts of course), I'm a big-time procrastinator.  I would LOVE to see the responses re: the lie detector on "the gear page" forum, if anyone knows that site you'll know what I'm talking about.  In a nutshell it's a smorgasbord of corksniffery there.  You guys really know your shit and I learn something new every time I browse this thread.  Still need to catch up on the shows, though.

The General

Quote from: saucerlike on September 01, 2014, 07:47:31 PM
Just wanted to pop in to say sorry for not posting my thoughts on the shows (good thoughts of course), I'm a big-time procrastinator.  I would LOVE to see the responses re: the lie detector on "the gear page" forum, if anyone knows that site you'll know what I'm talking about.  In a nutshell it's a smorgasbord of corksniffery there.  You guys really know your shit and I learn something new every time I browse this thread.  Still need to catch up on the shows, though.
Thank you!

saucerlike

@The General:
When you're doing setups is there any particular tuner you prefer for intonation?  I just have a couple snarks, a Korg GA-30, and another cheapo clip-on.  It's pretty obvious (at least I think) the Snark is not preferable but I have been using it with "good enough" success.  Would like to know if you have any suggestions.  It's at the point of whether I can't decide how to go about the process, or order of whether to adjust the truss rod, bridge height, or intonation, and in what order.  Also, I remember it being mentioned in an early episode but what do you recommend brand-wise for replacement toggles/pots and things of that nature?

Anyways I'm "working" on a co-worker's Harmony electric that works fine now but needs some things replaced.  It's an LP style copy, needed a bridge and tailpiece which I replaced with a set from a cheapo Epi LP Special I had laying around. 

The General

Quote from: saucerlike on September 30, 2014, 06:31:07 PM
@The General:
When you're doing setups is there any particular tuner you prefer for intonation?  I just have a couple snarks, a Korg GA-30, and another cheapo clip-on.  It's pretty obvious (at least I think) the Snark is not preferable but I have been using it with "good enough" success.  Would like to know if you have any suggestions.  It's at the point of whether I can't decide how to go about the process, or order of whether to adjust the truss rod, bridge height, or intonation, and in what order.  Also, I remember it being mentioned in an early episode but what do you recommend brand-wise for replacement toggles/pots and things of that nature?

Anyways I'm "working" on a co-worker's Harmony electric that works fine now but needs some things replaced.  It's an LP style copy, needed a bridge and tailpiece which I replaced with a set from a cheapo Epi LP Special I had laying around.

I use a Conn Strobe Tuner for intonation.  The little clip on tuners are good enough these days that they should be close enough to get close enough. 

When I do a setup, I do things in this order...
Fresh strings, adjust truss rod, set action, set intonation.  Then you can go back and double check everything and make small adjustments.  Intonation is always the last step of the process, because the other adjustments will effect intonation.  There's more stuff to check than what you mentioned, though... like checking each nut slot and making small adjustments in the depth/width of each slot so that they're just right.  You also want to make sure to put a little graphite in each nut slot.  I also like to check all hardware and make sure everything's tight. 

For pots I prefer CTS. 
For jacks and switches, I prefer Switchcraft. 
CRL is the standard for Fender style switches.

thanks for listening

3OctaveFart

General-
Been listening to these at work lately. It is very calming! You do an outstanding job.

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: 3OctaveFart on November 30, 2014, 06:32:36 PM
General-
Been listening to these at work lately. It is very calming! You do an outstanding job.

He does. I think it's the best podcast on UFOShip.com.

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