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Started by BobGrau, December 18, 2013, 06:06:59 PM

Sambo

Quote from: Shadow Wolf on December 19, 2013, 08:07:17 PM
How do you think self-esteem is constituted without society and culture?
It is not, and thus it is unimportant how an individual feels about himself, as it has no effect on society or culture...

Self-esteem was created by culture and was thence stolen by society in order to control how an individual will react, and how to get the individual to react the way Society wants. Society is about the whole, think Borg here. Culture really has nothing to do with Society. If Society could do away with culture, lead us to Borgism, then society would be very happy. If you think I am wrong about Society trying to do away with culture, then think of what has happened; to the shamanistic cultures (it is considered illegal to utilize certain plants to reach their raised state of conciseness), the Native American culture (where has their cultural right to hunt and move about freely gone), the American culture; (try to drink a beer on fourth of July at an outdoor picnic in some parts of the USA it is illegal to have an open container in public). Those are just a few of the cultural aspects that have been done away with by society.

Culture says it's okay, Society says it is unacceptable; leaving the individual confused and in a mental fog easier to control.

Society never has been nor ever will be about the Individual; it is about control of the masses and nothing more.
Well those are my thoughts.

If your thoughts were better structured they'd appear less self indulged and may be of benefit to a greater number of people. I don't understand why you didn't clarify your previous comments regarding habits and esteem as I had addressed concerns with them. Instead you focused in on my vague use of the word "culture," and appear to have gone off on society in a way that looks contradictory to some of your initial comments. But it's all so messy I don't want to pick it apart to make you make more sense to me. I'm not offended or take it personally. It's just a bit incomprehensible.

Sambo

Actually I understand what you have written. It's just the direction you took sort of ignored most of my response. Habit isn't rut per set. Self esteem isn't neutral or whatever you want to call it (making it harmless to the self).

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