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Started by Caruthers612, November 14, 2013, 06:25:07 AM

Caruthers612


          I hope he does, of course, it was a pure treat to hear him again--his rumbling voice, his laugh, his live reads of CCrane commercials--but ultimately my reaction to Dark Matter was a big "Meh..." for two reasons. First, although, again, it was charming to hear the "old gang" again, they are now, the regular guests from the 90s, a bunch of old men, old men stumbling about in search of a point and grasping for relevance. It sounded like an old man's summit. Second, the 90s were a long time ago, as far as the amount of technological progress since then, and we now live in an age of real and up to the moment information about the science that is transforming our very lives and giving birth to a new civilization. As a result, it is real scientists I want to hear from, not guys relating stories about running into an ET at a truckstop diner outside of Scottsdale. So if Art returns, I pray he will bring on more physicists, astronomers, guys working in the fields of materials science and nanotech, biophysics and 3D printing. Also if some intrepid researcher has come up with a way for me to cram Twinkies into my gob with the heels of both hands without gaining weight, I'd crank up my CC Radio for that.

Juan

Or some paranormal guests who don't simply spout the latest (from 1985) New Age foolishness.  Let's hear a hellion such as Harlot.

Morgus

Are you proposing Art have a Science show similar to whats on the Discovery Science Channel?

MV/Liberace!

personally, i didn't think there was a thing wrong with dark matter, but that's just my opinion, and we all have one.

elbee

do you live under a bridge?

your title "If Art returns" has negative currents right away


DM was exceptional.


mikuthing01

I liked Dark Matter i didn't care for a few of the guests and some of the callers were pretty boring and went no where. But given time to grow a new base of listeners i thought it would have become a very good show.

DanTSX

DM was great.

You guys need to listen to more full shows of early Coast.

You guys are looking at those magic nights where everything went perfectly and made radio magic.

You forget that Art was running the show 5 or 6 nights a week, dealing with every mouth-breather with a phone and a bit of insomnia.  There was A LOT of turdtacular airtime back then. 

You folks are setting your expectations too high because you are viewing the past through rose colored glasses.

There is some truth that info access has changed so dramatically that we can't just have someone say that there are UFO landing pads all over Area 51 because we will hop on 1 of 100 excellent hi-res mapping programs and ID the sites as secret basketball courts for the GG&G employees at A51.

Art's coast and DM was him having a blast with the guests and callers.  Suspending disbleef when appropriate and asking the audience to think provocatively on the issues.

Sorry, it was not Mel's Hole every night.  Plenty of nights of those goofy wicca sisters or whatever we laugh about that were on DM.

iBelieve

the show was only 6 weeks old... I´m sure down the line Art would have evolved and had newer more modern guests.

ICBMCanada

I would love it if Art returned... something about his voice makes him perfect for this kind of job and subject matter.  The guy just seemed like he hated doing the show.  How many times did he call in sick in his first 6 weeks on the job?  Some of the most creative excuses too! 

"I was bitten by a SPIDER and I could have DIED!"
"I have had major back pain and it's amazing I can even be on the air tonight, after I called in sick yesterday"
"The phone lines weren't working yesterday, so we just did a replay" --- this one bothered me, because who really listens to the shows to hear the crack-pot listeners call in anyways?  It's about the guest and what they have to say; he could have at least cut the show short by an hour citing "We can't take any calls, but that was our interview with such and such".

It just sounds like a bunch of lame excuses to call in sick to work; I truly feel that he didn't enjoy doing the show anymore and was avoiding it, and he found some BS excuse to quit, while finding a way to portray himself as a victim, as he does every time he "retires".  If he streams his show for free from the internet, I'm sure he'll blame "the internet" when he retires next; he always has to have somebody to blame, and always plays the "poor me, I'm a victim" card.

Love Art Bell, hate his work ethic and victim-posturing.

Caruthers612

Quote from: Juan on November 14, 2013, 12:07:59 PM
Or some paranormal guests who don't simply spout the latest (from 1985) New Age foolishness.  Let's hear a hellion such as Harlot.

           Hell, yeah, to that! Harlot was da bomb. Or da bitch, whatever. And yes, indeed, your reference to pathetic sounding "New Age" guests spouting shopworn drivel from decades past is precisely what I meant. Let's get some fresh blood in there. And some real blood, while we're at it, eh, Harlot?


Caruthers612

Quote from: Morgus on November 14, 2013, 03:20:58 PM
Are you proposing Art have a Science show similar to whats on the Discovery Science Channel?

            I'm suggesting that there are so many exciting, important and mind-blowing developments happening every day now in science and technology that Art could fill the night with amazing material that has the added advantage of being real, as opposed to a podiatrist claiming he removes alien implants from the big toes of his patients.

timpate

I just got finished listening to all the Art Bell shows. Loved it and I will say it again The Halloween show sucked. Sorry Art Love your program but the show sucked and you could tell that things had been off that night.

maren

When Art returns, you need to be telling this to Art and Paul.  They're the ones who can actually do something about it. 

I think Art would be more than amenable, too.  He sure sounded like he was digging Michio Kaku, and he was one of the first to give him air time back in the day. 

Some people love the ET and New Agey stuff -- not fair to ignore their preferences.  A nice mix.


I agree with OP.

That said, Michio Kaku never got a guest invitation he didn't like. The guy will do any show anytime. I don't know anyone in their right mind who circles a date on a calendar to catch Michio Kaku. I'm about to go get my haircut and I know there's a good chance Michio Kaku may be sitting in the chair next to me discussing quantum physics in a folksy, relatable way. Michio Kaku suffers from extreme overexposure.

I would love it if Art did a once-a-week podcast. He could do it at midnight if he wants, it's a podcast. I'd even pay $10/month to subscribe to it, maybe more - I used to pay $10/month for Mysterious Universe. A once-a-week podcast would be just infrequent enough that he could confine himself to first stringer guests. No Richard C. Hoagland or Dr. Steven Greer types to fill dates up. We wouldn't have to listen to Whitley Streiber keep milking his supposed abduction with "I just remembered something I totally forgot so have put it in this new book that could finally crack the mystery" for the umpteenth time.

Callers? If he needs them do non-live calls like Bill Handel would do with Handel on the Law ... callers call in and leave their comments/questions on voicemail during the week and then he sprinkles the best ones into the show.

Booner

....I want another show where he had us all get out old watches and use our psychic collective minds to start them up again.
I swear, I had a watch from when I was a little girl, and I stared at that thing along with everyone else staring at their things, and that old watch hand moved 35 seconds. 
Boy, was that cool.

RedMichael

They should have that guy who makes creepy ghost hunting robots that probably can't do half the shit he claimed. He is the one who had nice clear pictures of the robots then had a badly photoshopped UFO picture that was incredibly grainy.

popple

They were taking guest suggestions....

Falkie2013

Quote from: Recovering Noorholic on November 15, 2013, 04:53:42 PM
I agree with OP.

That said, Michio Kaku never got a guest invitation he didn't like. The guy will do any show anytime. I don't know anyone in their right mind who circles a date on a calendar to catch Michio Kaku. I'm about to go get my haircut and I know there's a good chance Michio Kaku may be sitting in the chair next to me discussing quantum physics in a folksy, relatable way. Michio Kaku suffers from extreme overexposure.

I would love it if Art did a once-a-week podcast. He could do it at midnight if he wants, it's a podcast. I'd even pay $10/month to subscribe to it, maybe more - I used to pay $10/month for Mysterious Universe. A once-a-week podcast would be just infrequent enough that he could confine himself to first stringer guests. No Richard C. Hoagland or Dr. Steven Greer types to fill dates up. We wouldn't have to listen to Whitley Streiber keep milking his supposed abduction with "I just remembered something I totally forgot so have put it in this new book that could finally crack the mystery" for the umpteenth time.

Callers? If he needs them do non-live calls like Bill Handel would do with Handel on the Law ... callers call in and leave their comments/questions on voicemail during the week and then he sprinkles the best ones into the show.

No.
Kaku will be the one cutting your hair and then telling you how haircuts relate to string theory and the Conservation of Energy and how one day barber shops will be part of the +3 civilization.

Quote from: Falkie2013 on November 15, 2013, 10:05:49 PM
No.
Kaku will be the one cutting your hair and then telling you how haircuts relate to string theory and the Conservation of Energy and how one day barber shops will be part of the +3 civilization.

LOL

onan

Quote from: Falkie2013 on November 15, 2013, 10:05:49 PM
No.
Kaku will be the one cutting your hair and then telling you how haircuts relate to string theory and the Conservation of Energy and how one day barber shops will be part of the +3 civilization.

That's pretty funny Falkie, especially since you probably can't understand Kaku's use of a pronoun, let alone his background in physics.

Luna

I love Dark Matter. I was prepared to listen to it forever.  :'(

Textor

Quote from: ICBMCanada on November 14, 2013, 10:32:46 PM
I would love it if Art returned... something about his voice makes him perfect for this kind of job and subject matter.  The guy just seemed like he hated doing the show.  How many times did he call in sick in his first 6 weeks on the job?  Some of the most creative excuses

The phones issue is VALID.

As a long-time sirius subscriber, i know that when the phones go down (almost weekly I hear about it on a show somewhere at some point) for a show, ALL the phones are down. Art wasn't doing an in-studio guest, which means the show would have been 4 hours of art reading the news, apologizing about the phones, and trying various prayers and spells in a vain attempt to get them back up.

IIRC, the spider happened on a weekend and he was back on the air that monday-- he didn't "call in" that day.

His back problems are not new, and being unable to move makes running your own board (which Art does) an impossible task.

I loved his shows, and I heard a passionate and excited man on the air, so I have a hard time accepting the, "his heart wasn't in it" trope that keeps being uttered.

jambo101

 Dark Matter was great,I thought it beat the competition by a long shot. As Art built the Coast 2 Coast empire it amazes me the powers that be wouldnt give Noory the boot and give the show =back to its rightfull owner Art Bell.

RedMichael

Quote from: Textor on November 16, 2013, 02:42:57 AM
The phones issue is VALID.

As a long-time sirius subscriber, i know that when the phones go down (almost weekly I hear about it on a show somewhere at some point) for a show, ALL the phones are down. Art wasn't doing an in-studio guest, which means the show would have been 4 hours of art reading the news, apologizing about the phones, and trying various prayers and spells in a vain attempt to get them back up.

IIRC, the spider happened on a weekend and he was back on the air that monday-- he didn't "call in" that day.

His back problems are not new, and being unable to move makes running your own board (which Art does) an impossible task.

I loved his shows, and I heard a passionate and excited man on the air, so I have a hard time accepting the, "his heart wasn't in it" trope that keeps being uttered.


Sounds like he would have found out about sirius' technical issues if he did the laziest of research. As for his back. If he would have just said "I am too old to do this show I can't handle it, my back hurts, etc" it would have done nothing to damage his reputation unlike what he did.

munbeam666

There are a bunch of new topics that weren't around when Art retired years ago. For example, an area of the North Sea named "Doggerland" named after the shallow Dogger Banks between Norway and Britain. 15-20 years ago, the oil companies were searching for gas deposits, mapping the bottom of the ocean floor and discovered huge concentrations of prehistoric animal bones, as well as human remains
It is believed that this area once connected mainland Europe, Scandanavia and the British isles during the last Ice Age, and that as the glaciers melted, the land became submerged due to rising sea levels. The area was largely a marshy plain, which the three great rivers,including the  Thames and the Rhine, emptied together into a huge delta region in the area of the English Channel . The place was teeming with wildlife, and was speculated to be a region that had a large human presence
It is believed that around 6,000 years ago, a slide off of Norway, called the Storegga Slide, completely inundated the area, causing a giant tsunami. The result was that Britain was permanently broken off from the rest of Europe.
The British scientists, by the way, are studying this data and have taken the subject very seriously
I'd LOVE Art to investigate this subject.

slippingaway

Quote from: Luna on November 16, 2013, 02:22:24 AM
I love Dark Matter. I was prepared to listen to it forever.  :'(
If my girlfriend would have said that after a few listens, I'd have asked her to marry me on the spot!

 I liked Dark Matter in the same way that you like retro stuff at first, but after awhile, I realized it just wasn't the same. I would never suggest that Art can be replaced or replicated, but  I am hosting a new show on Sirius XM channel 167 called "What in The World?!" beginning Friday. January 17th at 10pm EST and will be airing every Friday from here on in. Hopefully, I can do justice to the professionalism and work that Art put into the show and offer more in terms of effort and interest level than the current host of C to C. if the show is good and is supported, we will go daily and finally offer up a serious challenge to the C to C monopoly on fascinating and unexplained. I promise you I will be prepared, will get great guests and will listen to them and engage them and the audience in a whole new way. Please email me directly if you have any questions and please help me spread the word. I promise you I won't let you down.

Uncle Duke

Quote from: Richard Garner on January 14, 2014, 02:10:07 AM
I liked Dark Matter in the same way that you like retro stuff at first, but after awhile, I realized it just wasn't the same. I would never suggest that Art can be replaced or replicated, but  I am hosting a new show on Sirius XM channel 167 called "What in The World?!" beginning Friday. January 17th at 10pm EST and will be airing every Friday from here on in. Hopefully, I can do justice to the professionalism and work that Art put into the show and offer more in terms of effort and interest level than the current host of C to C. if the show is good and is supported, we will go daily and finally offer up a serious challenge to the C to C monopoly on fascinating and unexplained. I promise you I will be prepared, will get great guests and will listen to them and engage them and the audience in a whole new way. Please email me directly if you have any questions and please help me spread the word. I promise you I won't let you down.

So you are asking folks on this site to listen to Sirius XM?  You got balls, I'll give you that.

wr250

Quote from: Richard Garner on January 14, 2014, 02:10:07 AM
I liked Dark Matter in the same way that you like retro stuff at first, but after awhile, I realized it just wasn't the same. I would never suggest that Art can be replaced or replicated, but  I am hosting a new show on Sirius XM channel 167 called "What in The World?!" beginning Friday. January 17th at 10pm EST and will be airing every Friday from here on in. Hopefully, I can do justice to the professionalism and work that Art put into the show and offer more in terms of effort and interest level than the current host of C to C. if the show is good and is supported, we will go daily and finally offer up a serious challenge to the C to C monopoly on fascinating and unexplained. I promise you I will be prepared, will get great guests and will listen to them and engage them and the audience in a whole new way. Please email me directly if you have any questions and please help me spread the word. I promise you I won't let you down.

any archives that can be downloaded ? because the majority of us dislike sirius xm .
may the stream be with you

georgesucks

Quote from: Caruthers612 on November 14, 2013, 06:25:07 AM
          I hope he does, of course, it was a pure treat to hear him again--his rumbling voice, his laugh, his live reads of CCrane commercials--but ultimately my reaction to Dark Matter was a big "Meh..." for two reasons. First, although, again, it was charming to hear the "old gang" again, they are now, the regular guests from the 90s, a bunch of old men, old men stumbling about in search of a point and grasping for relevance. It sounded like an old man's summit. Second, the 90s were a long time ago, as far as the amount of technological progress since then, and we now live in an age of real and up to the moment information about the science that is transforming our very lives and giving birth to a new civilization. As a result, it is real scientists I want to hear from, not guys relating stories about running into an ET at a truckstop diner outside of Scottsdale. So if Art returns, I pray he will bring on more physicists, astronomers, guys working in the fields of materials science and nanotech, biophysics and 3D printing. Also if some intrepid researcher has come up with a way for me to cram Twinkies into my gob with the heels of both hands without gaining weight, I'd crank up my CC Radio for that.
If Art Returns, he will quits again. I wish art was not a quitter but he has the history of quitting and he has given many reasons for each time he quits. I just wish George Noory takes a page from Art's play book and quits.

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