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Spiritual Evolution Must Take Place Before Anarchy

Started by chunter, October 28, 2013, 02:24:05 PM

chunter

Everyone seems to be on edge. Things seem like they are about to go into a rolling boil. Everyone feels like something is wrong and things have to change, but they don't seem to know what the change should be.
Everyone also seems to agree that spiritual evolution needs to occur before this big change.

The change is this:

We need to completely get rid of all government. Complete freedom.


But I think before we can move into that direction and get rid of government, we need to evolve spiritually.




I don't want to debate the specifics.  If your reply is :
Without government controlling [insert name here] , we would have chaos.  Then, I would suggest going to www.lewrockwell.com or www.mises.org and read why that is not the case.  There are alot of facts and statistics to go over for each issue, and I don't want to do that.  It takes alot of time, and the scholars at lewrockwell.com and mises.org have already done it time and time again.

b_dubb

<placating crazy>that's nice dear</placating crazy>

Yeah, I don't mean to be a downie-clownie, too, but "getting rid of government" sounds a bit like anarchy and chaos.  It's a bit like saying, "Human beings just need to stop lying."  Sounds great... but what are the odds of that successfully happening?

To your broader point, however, yes:  looking inward before trying to change everything around you is a good plan.

ItsOver

"In times like these, it helps to recall that there have always been times like these." - Paul Harvey, "Goood Day!"


ItsOver

Quote from: Paper*Boy on October 28, 2013, 03:26:42 PM
Sumpthin's go-win on, I can fee lit - George Noory

Hahaha.... :D

 

Jorch, "The Stinker."

chunter

Quote from: West of the Rockies on October 28, 2013, 03:06:35 PM
Yeah, I don't mean to be a downie-clownie, too, but "getting rid of government" sounds a bit like anarchy and chaos. 

That is just because you don't fully understand why and how free markets work.  Knowledge is power.

Most people who don't have knowledge about something fear it. 



cmotors

Quote from: chunter on October 28, 2013, 02:24:05 PM
We need to completely get rid of all government. Complete freedom.

But I think before we can move into that direction and get rid of government, we need to evolve spiritually.

I agree with this.  However, it is so far beyond what people can comprehend as being possible (evolving to that level), that it is from their view: fairy tale land.  Until that could ever happen, the basic functional approach of "do this to accomplish that" to the nth degree will continue to be the lay of the land for the foreseeable future.

Quote from: cmotors on October 29, 2013, 09:48:37 AM
I agree with this. 

Yeah you are agreeing with yourself because you are also chunter, cmotors.

The writing style and sentence structure are the same.

Eddie Coyle

Quote from: chunter on October 28, 2013, 02:24:05 PM
Everyone seems to be on edge. Things seem like they are about to go into a rolling boil. Everyone feels like something is wrong and things have to change, but they don't seem to know what the change should be.
Everyone also seems to agree that spiritual evolution needs to occur before this big change.

       Very fresh outlook and daring as well! Sounds like a leaflet from 1848 Bavaria.

     


chunter

Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on October 29, 2013, 02:01:01 PM
Yeah you are agreeing with yourself because you are also chunter, cmotors.

The writing style and sentence structure are the same.

what the?  we have some paranoid people on this board....
believe  me....I'm laid back...I'm not gonna get into arguments with anyone here....

if you disagree with me and think I'm a fool....that is fine.  love and peace.

aldousburbank

Quote from: chunter on October 29, 2013, 02:32:35 PM
what the?  we have some paranoid people on this board....
believe  me....I'm laid back...I'm not gonna get into arguments with anyone here....

if you disagree with me and think I'm a fool....that is fine.  love and peace.
I think the dude is saying you're two fools. But that's cool with me and myself if you're not.

ziznak

Quote from: chunter on October 28, 2013, 02:24:05 PM
Everyone seems to be on edge. Things seem like they are about to go into a rolling boil. Everyone feels like something is wrong and things have to change, but they don't seem to know what the change should be.
Everyone also seems to agree that spiritual evolution needs to occur before this big change.

The change is this:

We need to completely get rid of all government. Complete freedom.


But I think before we can move into that direction and get rid of government, we need to evolve spiritually.




I don't want to debate the specifics.  If your reply is :
Without government controlling [insert name here] , we would have chaos.  Then, I would suggest going to www.lewrockwell.com or www.mises.org and read why that is not the case.  There are alot of facts and statistics to go over for each issue, and I don't want to do that.  It takes alot of time, and the scholars at lewrockwell.com and mises.org have already done it time and time again.
Anarchy may work... you didnt mention the part where 7 billion people have to die... so much easier to get along when other humans are few and far between.

chunter

Quote from: ziznak on October 29, 2013, 02:44:02 PM
Anarchy may work... you didnt mention the part where 7 billion people have to die... so much easier to get along when other humans are few and far between.

with freedom, why would 7 billion people have to die?  the free market is much more efficient at providing goods than government.

ziznak

no 7 billion people die... then you have a safe anarchy.  The remaining humans would be more worried about fucking each other than fighting over resources... 7 billion people w no government = 7 billion people dying more slowly than when they had a government.  You don't see the big ass hole for warlords that opens up in your scenario?

Quote from: chunter on October 29, 2013, 02:32:35 PM
what the?  we have some paranoid people on this board....
believe  me....I'm laid back...I'm not gonna get into arguments with anyone here....

if you disagree with me and think I'm a fool....that is fine.  love and peace.
So chunter, you are saying you are not cmotors? Because you have not denied it at all, in fact you did a dance around it.

pre·var·i·cate
verb: prevaricate; 3rd person present: prevaricates; past tense: prevaricated; past participle: prevaricated; gerund or present participle: prevaricating

    1.
    speak or act in an evasive way.
    "he seemed to prevaricate when journalists asked pointed questions"



aldousburbank

You thought you could prevaricate with Bobby? Bobby you thought you could prevaricate with?

Plasticman - Salton Sea

Quote from: aldousburbank on October 29, 2013, 03:30:24 PM
You thought you could prevaricate with Bobby? Bobby you thought you could prevaricate with?

I got the vocational skills!

Quote from: chunter on October 29, 2013, 02:32:35 PM
what the?  we have some paranoid people on this board....
believe  me....I'm laid back...I'm not gonna get into arguments with anyone here....

if you disagree with me and think I'm a fool....that is fine.  love and peace.

So I reply to cmotors post...
and chunter responds...
Why is that?

aldousburbank

Multiple personality level marketing time traveler angel?

cmotors

Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on October 29, 2013, 02:01:01 PM
Yeah you are agreeing with yourself because you are also chunter, cmotors.

The writing style and sentence structure are the same.

No, I'm not chunter, nor do I play one on the internet. I think that may have been the first time reading anything he wrote.  Sorry dudes, completely unrelated person.

cmotors

Quote from: aldousburbank on October 29, 2013, 04:48:24 PM
Multiple personality level marketing time traveler angel?
lol, sounds like it pays well

Quote from: chunter on October 28, 2013, 02:24:05 PM
Everyone seems to be on edge. Things seem like they are about to go into a rolling boil. Everyone feels like something is wrong and things have to change, but they don't seem to know what the change should be.
Everyone also seems to agree that spiritual evolution needs to occur before this big change.

The change is this:

We need to completely get rid of all government. Complete freedom.


But I think before we can move into that direction and get rid of government, we need to evolve spiritually.




I don't want to debate the specifics.  If your reply is :
Without government controlling [insert name here] , we would have chaos.  Then, I would suggest going to www.lewrockwell.com or www.mises.org and read why that is not the case.  There are alot of facts and statistics to go over for each issue, and I don't want to do that.  It takes alot of time, and the scholars at lewrockwell.com and mises.org have already done it time and time again.
I've heard good things about anarcho syndicalism:

http://youtu.be/JvKIWjnEPNY

ksm32

Quote from: chunter on October 28, 2013, 02:24:05 PM
Everyone seems to be on edge.

Relax, it's just HAARP.

You want to get off the edje? Get one of those time machines and move to a small town that is fully equipt with a country doctor, a general store, and Sheriff and his deputy (just in case Timmy steals a chocolate bar). Go to church and wave a lot while saying howdy friend. Go to bed at night with only the screen door latch protecting you and yours from the world..

I would set up shop in that town in a second. And from time to time? Don Knotts would pop by for coffee :)

AMEN.

ksm32


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