Richard C. Hoagland

[Yorkshire pud]

What is it Hoagland said with Art that pissed George off?

I dunno, but it got him really mad. However as Hoagland is another charlatan amongst the many, not having him promote is crap has to be a blessing hasn't it?

[expat]

What is it Hoagland said with Art that pissed George off?

As I recall it, he simply blew George's cover. In the middle of the interview, George e-mailed Hoagland "Give him hell, Richard" (or similar). Obviously intended as a private message, but Hoagland blurted out "Oh look what George just sent me."

So far from pleading for the return of RCH, I will plead for him to be kept away (I have done already, in fact). Bob Zimmerman is just as entertaining and what he says is actually true, whereas RCH is 95% bollocks.

[cweb]

It does seem like he's gotten a little wackier over time. The Angry Noory theory works for me, though.

Or perhaps he was taken up into a craft, where the beings are serving "Hoagie, under glass."

[coaster]

I missed this one but it does not surprise me.  As part of the moon-dome cover up conspiracy, he'd figured out how the U.S. and China were passing secret messages to each other via the coordinates of some Mars landing site.  I can't remember exactly how it worked but it was something like that anyhow.

Nah, it was the 'UFOs around the sun' guy who said that. Two crazy peas in the same crazy pod. glass dome on the moon.

[Threaten the Hoover]

I'm sure the Dark Matter 'betrayal' was the last straw, but it seemed to me Hoaxland and Jorge really didn't get on well.  Can't put my finger on it specifically, but something in the tone of voice, subtle digs at each other that should have been friendly, but somehow weren't.

[albrecht]

George Noory's Rambling on Coast to Coast Am
The RCH feather kicking analogy might have started the ill will. I dont buy RCH theories but still sometimes like him as guest. At least for old times sake.

[bateman]

What is it Hoagland said with Art that pissed George off? 

George bet Hoagland that he wouldn't be allowed to bring up George on Dark Matter. Hoagland told him that was ridiculous, that Art wouldn't care, and to prove it, he made sure to mention him. The ball busting ensued, and this must have enraged ol' Jorch, because he didn't return Hoagie's emails for months. The entire show went radio silent on him.

[paladin1991]

I'm sure George was furious with RCH's comments about him when he was on Dark Matter.

He's winding down folks, he's winding down.

Huh.  Missed that.  After the first few minutes Hoglands buffoonery, I kinda tune him out and go in search of dead horse porn.

[eddie dean]

George bet Hoagland that he wouldn't be allowed to bring up George on Dark Matter. Hoagland told him that was ridiculous, that Art wouldn't care, and to prove it, he made sure to mention him. The ball busting ensued, and this must have enraged ol' Jorch, because he didn't return Hoagie's emails for months. The entire show went radio silent on him.

Classic example of George projecting a behavior he engages in onto others.
That 5 minutes of RCH and Art talking shit about George was one of the best moments in DM history.

[paladin1991]

Okay, I'm going in search of....that bit.  Unless someone has a linkee?

[bateman]

Okay, I'm going in search of....that bit.  Unless someone has a linkee?

1:25:50


http://youtu.be/oW724yBUzW4

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

"No George, It's called a conversation."

[zeebo]

...I dont buy RCH theories but still sometimes like him as guest. At least for old times sake.

Yeah me too.  He kinda reminds me of the last guy still awake at some party, who's rambling on, but you've got insomnia and nowhere to go, so you don't begrudge the company nor the outlandish claims, for a little while anyway.

[Juan Cena]

1:25:50


http://youtu.be/oW724yBUzW4

You can hear my question to RCH at around 2:40:21. The question on why the aliens didn't terraform the moon.

[area51drone]

This thread just reminds me how much I love Art and RCH.  It's like radio heaven to me.  I can't wait for Art's return.   MV, I know you read every single fucking thread on this board.  Why do you not have an Art Bell returns count down at the top?   Like "XXX days until Art's Return"...  this is bellgab after all, is it not?

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

Clear extended jab at Noory at 3:08:00.

[pate]

That was actually the only what was his call showed?  That I heard!  I'd heard that Art was going to be on XM and we just happened to be driving down for me GranMaMa's 90th birfday to the ancestral homeland, with a satellite radio (more because my bro-in-law wanted to hear a football game, nah, that didn't work out...) and this was what I insisted we listen to...  My nephew was much entertained by my Grand Unified Conspiracy Theory, as Art was doing such a good job beating up on RCH that we just laught...

Ah good times.  Was it live or a re-broadcast?  Not sure, I am sure that the damn rental car didn't come with whatever subscription included the football game that I (& my Bro-in-Law) wanted to listen to...  And by the time I figured out what sort of satellite radio to get for my old jalopy, and what Sirius/xm plan to buy (ala cARTe) the great one was done with the orbital transmissions...

Such a let down...  I think he was done before I settled on a plan and was about to hit "buy" on amazon, cuz something made me stop and check my assumptions...

Still haven't heard any of Art's post-C2C work except that one show...  good stuff!

[zeebo]

... Why do you not have an Art Bell returns count down at the top?   Like "XXX days until Art's Return"...  this is bellgab after all, is it not?

a51d's got a point, just sayin'.  2015 seemed like a long way away when DM self-destructed, but now it seems just around the corner.  I'm thinking we should be getting our first cryptic "Stay Tuned" hints pretty soon.

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

a51d's got a point, just sayin'.  2015 seemed like a long way away when DM self-destructed, but now it seems just around the corner.  I'm thinking we should be getting our first cryptic "Stay Tuned" hints pretty soon.

Maybe Keith Rowland will put an incongruous semi-colon or space on the website

[cweb]

Sometimes this thread title makes me picture Hoagie sitting on a step outside the Coast studio, after hours of scratching at the door, with a pouty regretful face. His mournful eyes gaze down at a pile of pictures. Glass domes on the moon, Martian pyramids, Noory and himself pushing cake in each others faces. A tear falls from his eye, only to be joined by a gentle rain. Eric Carmen's "All By Myself" begins to waft through the air as the camera cranes upward into the night sky...

[pate]

...outside the Coast studio, after hours of scratching at the door, with a pouty regretful face. His mournful eyes gaze down at a pile of pictures. Glass domes on the moon, Martian pyramids, Noory and himself pushing cake in each others faces. A tear falls from his eye, only to be joined by a gentle rain. Eric Carmen's "All By Myself" begins to waft through the air as the camera cranes upward into the night sky...

...pushing the 'stuff' in each other's faces...  ...riding white horses...  ...RCH wails,  'Gimme the stuff, man!'  Simple Jorch laughs, 'Its all mine man, why'd you waste time with that loser?'

Meanwhile in the "I saw Art" thread...

[paladin1991]

Thanks for that Hogand interview.  Good listen.

[Rico999]

So far, this thread has included a pretty good cross-section of the Bellgab crowd.  That said, I hope some of you have contacted Coast, not only by email but through twitter and other social media and let them know RCH should make his comeback.

RCH and a few others I've mentioned like LMH helped Art make the show what it is, thanks to their work and Art's intellectual curiosity.

The fact is, despite being a legend in his own mind, George doesn't contribute much at all -- except unintentional comic moments -- all of which has been chronicled by thousands on this website and many others for years now.  He could be gone tomorrow and the program wouldn't miss a beat, nor would he be missed by many.

If his ego is so fragile (and it's obvious it is) that he can't take some ribbing from Hoagland and Art, then it's clear that his nice-guy schtick is nothing more than an act for the mass audience.  My guess is his real personality is closer to the Andy Griffith character "Lonesome Rhodes" in the classic film "A Face in the Crowd."  Which itself was biting satire of the phony nice-guy media star Arthur Godfrey at the height of his fame.

Wake up, George, dance with who brung ya, OK?

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

If his ego is so fragile (and it's obvious it is) that he can't take some ribbing from Hoagland and Art, then it's clear that his nice-guy schtick is nothing more than an act for the mass audience.  My guess is his real personality is closer to the Andy Griffith character "Lonesome Rhodes" in the classic film "A Face in the Crowd."  Which itself was biting satire of the phony nice-guy media star Arthur Godfrey at the height of his fame....

I was watching a Red Dwarf episode last night.  At one point around the climax of the story, Kryten said "Mr. Rimmer has always had a huge ego and no self-confidence."  I thought of that quote when I read your post but can't decide if it applies to George.

[zeebo]

Sometimes this thread title makes me picture Hoagie sitting on a step outside the Coast studio ...

... with torsion field detector in-hand, trying to find a way in.

[zeebo]

I was watching a Red Dwarf episode last night.  At one point around the climax of the story, Kryten said "Mr. Rimmer has always had a huge ego and no self-confidence."  I thought of that quote when I read your post but can't decide if it applies to George.

Haha, good ol' Rimmer. 

[nooryisawesome]

It's obvious george was pissed by hoagie saying I like it when you challenge me, it shows you're paying attention to my responses.

Everyone knows noory tunes out and just agrees with every guest.

[Scully]

And, at 3:08, as was also pointed out, Hoagland said "you don't roll over like a limp noodle."  Loved that one.  I could just hear Jorgie throwing a tantrum about that.   

[washere]

i didn't listen to that youtube clip but remember hoagy tell art he won a bet against george (re: next democratic prez candidate barak vs hillary or something like that). and if he won, which he did, george would let hoagy c2c on one night all by himself.

art laughed and said good luck cashing that in and hoagy said he must, art chuckled more.

maybe hoagy pushed his luck with george on that.

[Rico999]

Tonight's program would be a perfect opportunity to bring RCH on to discuss the events behind the event re the Antares rocket crash.   I'm sure he has a take on that event that no one else would.....

Instead I imagine we'll get the pompous windbag Robert Zimmerman to run it down.  He seems to be the de facto "Science Advisor" to the program now -- certainly when it comes to space --  like it or not. 

He's boring though.  Hoagland always has something to say that's way outside the lines and after all, isn't that what Coast is supposed to be about?