The Man with No Name Endorses Romney

[analog kid]

That graph and that weeklystandard article are so misleading. It's a graph provided by Jeff Sessions that doesn't cite anything, doesn't break down what he's defining as welfare programs (out of the 80 that exist, according to the article) or how he's adding / distributing numbers, and it suspiciously starts at 2009 for some reason (during a recession). Why not start it at 2000, so we can get a better understanding of what's going on?

It also seems to say that he's counting each household with at least one member on some form of "welfare program" but doesn't say if he's then counting each member of the entire household.

And I like that flamebait at the end of the article they throw out like chum to right wingers. Propaganda 101.

[Ben Shockley]

...Obama is a fucking communist.

I doubt that you know what "communism" is, Zircon.  Anyway, I am the real fucking communist, and I can assure you that I've never seen the Pres. at any of our meetings.

He has yet to gain a single vote for his bills in congress.

Not exactly true, but let's go with what you give us.
What do you expect when the opposition party declares from day 1 of his term that their main job is, not to legislate as they are voted-in and paid to do, but to get him out of office..?  Not much "good will" there, huh??

The man is a complete dictator who can only get his way by executive order.

Then why isn't a stalwart truth-teller like you in a concentration camp?  Or liquidated (I believe was the Stalinist term.. you know: being that Obama is such a commie and all...)?

His black ass, and all his communist buddies need to get their worthless asses out of DC.

Keep writing, Zircon.   The more you write like this, the more you expose what 99% of all opposition to President Obama is about!

[Zircon]

Well, I wasn't too specific was I: Which type of communist are you Ben? Council, libertarian or anarcho and do you believe the Marxist-Leninist model was carried out properly? Remember Leninism is the final touch to Marxism. Do you believe in a classless, moneyless and stateless social order? What institutions would you recommend be put into place to replace the economic engines?

Socialism leads into communism - the natural trend. If Obama isn't a communist then his mission is to prepare the way for the communists to assume control. I do feel communism has taken on a corporatist flavor as even old time communists realized that an infrastructure was necessary (fascism is already a left leaning philosophy so take it a step further). Bankers have always been involved as even a cashless society requires purchasing power - I mean, lets do a reality check. Even North Korea sells its nuclear technology for goods.

I have not been liquidated yet because I am still regarded as a piss ant by those who are kicking in doors - our Homeland Security and other Gestapo/KGB modeled agencies. I have no influence, I mean look at where I am posting, but they probably have my address. I'm an older guy so they figure he'll either drop dead soon or once he gets on medicare we can just slip him a pill and kill the fucking bastard.

And Obama and his DOJ are racist. If you're black you can do pretty much anything. If you're white you're fucked. Black Liberation Theology advocates this. Holder's actions with domestic racial violence speaks for itself. This administration is pure bullshit.

And 99% of the population is figuring out just what this piece of shit he really is. I'm waiting to see how they attack Ryan and how they hold onto power once told to hit the road via the vote.

[PB the Deplorable]

... Socialism leads into communism...
... This administration is pure bullshit...

The Commies are just Socialists with guns.

Interesting to note just last week the Holder/Obama Justice Dept declined to prosecute any executives from Goldman Sachs for taking the lousy subprime mortgages, chopping them up, repackaging them, and selling them at higher ratings for massive profit.  These are the very securities that kicked off the crash of 2008 and cost the Federal Govt billions and the economy as a whole trillions.

I don't know if GS bribes politicians with cash or not - it's been so much easier for them to just get their executives appointed to Treasury and other positions and make decisions from the inside for decades.

The Justice Dept's excuse is probably something like the law isn't specific on the GS actions - but fraud is fraud, I'm certain there is a prosecutable crime here.  But even if there isn't due to some loophole or nonspecific language, the Justice Dept should prosecute anyway and make the lives of these executives hell for years to come even if they are somehow able to ultimately prevail.

This failure to prosecute ALONE should be enough to swing the election agains Obama.

[MV/Liberace!]

The more you write like this, the more you expose what 99% of all opposition to President Obama is about!

this was where your post crashed and burned in a firestorm of idiocy.

[Zircon]

PaperBoy, your last line is a telling one. Sadly, I think the rank and file voter will not pay attention to it as they don't keep up with the news and most information they get is pre-approved by the Ministry of Propaganda and will not mention it.

Goldman Sachs is a criminal organization in my book. Along with Bank of America, JP Morgan Chase and Citi Bank - the four of them are the Federal Reserve banks. So go figure what may or may not happen. They'll never get prosecuted as they control the money supply.

[b_dubb]

I have not been liquidated yet because I am still regarded as a piss ant by those who are kicking in doors - our Homeland Security and other Gestapo/KGB modeled agencies.

this is happening where?

And Obama and his DOJ are racist. If you're black you can do pretty much anything. If you're white you're fucked.

ohhhh boy.  two wrongs don't make a right

[McPhallus]

I doubt that you know what "communism" is, Zircon.  Anyway, I am the real fucking communist, and I
Keep writing, Zircon.   The more you write like this, the more you expose what 99% of all opposition to President Obama is about!

You just shot your credibility all to hell with me, dude.  You're confident that all criticism of Obama is racism, which is obviously a knee-jerk generalization meant to intimidate any dissenting opinion.

Bah.... I'm finished with you.

[Ben Shockley]

Which type of communist are you Ben?

Kibbutznik communist.  You know: the kind that I guess all the Christian conservatives MUST like because it was done in the creation of their love-child, "modern Israel."  Right?  By sky daddy's "chosen people."   Or is "chosen" status suspended while a society does "necessary local communism" and is only resumed when they go all right-wing with creating their own ghettoes and stuff like that..?

Do I "believe in a classless, moneyless and stateless social order?"  Yes.

"What institutions would you recommend be put into place to replace the economic engines?"
I am not convinced that any need to be.   That's like MV's comment to me the other day, that I would be "against business."  No.  Just against rapacious capitalism.   Once the idea of "private economic property" is neutered, we might get back to some decent way of managing large-scale society.  All the same stuff can still be done,  and people can be paid, but just not with a small number of people raping the world and billions of other people just for sport.

As for "Obama is a communist."  That's a joke.   I wish it was true.

Obama and his DOJ are racist. If you're black you can do pretty much anything. If you're white you're fucked. Black Liberation Theology advocates this. Holder's  actions with domestic racial violence speaks for itself. This administration is pure bullshit.
And 99% of the population is figuring out just what this piece of shit he really is. I'm waiting to see how they attack Ryan and how they hold onto power once told to hit the road via the vote.

Zircon, muh man, you are the gift that keeps on giving.   I was waxing sarcastic along those lines earlier today in here.   But you are the real deal!!   Keep writing, dude!  You are GOLD!
Keep throwing in those lines like "his black ass~~" stuff like that!   McPhallus didn't see it yet, I guess.   Great stuff!!   

[MV/Liberace!]

Bah.... I'm finished with you.

i'm the same way.  whenever someone rolls out the race card in a debate of obama's politics, i immediately lose all interest in debating with that person.  i move on. 


yes, there are isolated racist pockets of humanity out there... and there always will be.  however, i don't think it constitutes enough people to explain away all criticism of your precious president.

[Ben Shockley]

this was where your post crashed and burned in a firestorm of idiocy.

But the line I was responding to [approx: "get his black ass out of DC"] was good and rational and proper, right?

[Ben Shockley]

You just shot your credibility all to hell with me, dude. ...
Bah. I'm finished with you.

I thought you already were.

You're confident that all criticism of Obama is racism.

No, I'll sic HAL on your White ass to fact-check.  I said "99%."

[MV/Liberace!]

But the line I was responding to [approx: "get his black ass out of DC"] was good and rational and proper, right?

no, it wasn't proper either.  you've indirectly attempted to insult me by suggesting that i would THINK it was proper.  however, your response to that line, which was to mindlessly assert 99% of obama's criticizers to be racist, i found to be beneath me, you, and this discussion as a whole.

[MV/Liberace!]

and ben... if you're then wondering why i said something negative in response to your "99%" line but not his "black ass" line, it's because i think some things require no commentary.

[Zircon]

Well, I probably didn't need to use the adjective "black" when describing his useless ass so to those who are offended I offer my apology. But we do need to note he, Obama, has no reservations about using the qualifier, "white" during his many speeches to the hand picked young and impressionable (and stupid in most cases) in his photo-ops and video snippets. In his fictional autobiography he often refers to "whites" - so he clearly makes the distinction. When I say "black" I am racist but when he says "white", Ben is on his knees crying for this complete imposter who would kick Ben's teeth out of his white face or have some of Holder's friends do it for him.

[MV/Liberace!]

Well, I probably didn't need to use the adjective "black" when describing his useless ass so to those who are offended I offer my apology. But we do need to note he, Obama, has no reservations about using the qualifier, "white" during his many speeches to the hand picked young and impressionable (and stupid in most cases) in his photo-ops and video snippets. In his fictional autobiography he often refers to "whites" - so he clearly makes the distinction. When I say "black" I am racist but when he says "white", Ben is on his knees crying for this complete imposter who would kick Ben's teeth out of his white face or have some of Holder's friends do it for him.

i think it's about context. 


there's nothing explicitly wrong with mentioning race.  it's just that when the president's race is mentioned seemingly as a pejorative or as a bullet point in making the case against him, it's not hard to see why one would notice that.

[coaster]

Obama and his DOJ are racist.
His black ass, and all his communist buddies need to get their worthless asses out of DC.

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[Ben Shockley]

no, it wasn't proper either.

but oddly you didn't find time to jump in to say anything about that.

you've indirectly attempted to insult me by suggesting that i would THINK it was proper.

Actually no, just asking.  Frankly, your politics are well-known in here, MV, though you usually do a pretty good job of playing neutral when stuff comes up (that I've seen), other than maybe a passing shot that someone like me is just flat wrong; then nothing else.  I wonder why this one bugs you so much.   It's always the RESPONSE that gets the heat in here, not the original right-wing jab!   Weird.

your response to that line, which was to mindlessly assert 99% of obama's criticizers to be racist, i found to be beneath me, you, and this discussion as a whole.

There is a truism in law, and you can ask Sardondi; it's usually evoked in libel and slander cases: that "truth is an absolute defense."
I promise you MV, I am not doing schtick in here to piss anybody off.   I am saying what I think and believe in regard to what comes up in these political threads.
Ban me if you want.  But it will be a hell of an irony if you ban me for earnestly commenting on what I perceived to be a racist remark, rather than saying one word to the guy who dropped the "get his black ass out" line.   

[MV/Liberace!]

Ban me if you want.  But it will be a hell of an irony if you ban me for earnestly commenting on what I perceived to be a racist remark, rather than saying one word to the guy who dropped the "get his black ass out" line.

no need to be dramatic.  the political boards aren't even moderated, anyway.




edit:  and nobody has ever been banned from this forum for an opinion.

[Zircon]

Ben, I welcome your posts as you welcome my responses. We give each other "gifts" when this occurs.

Oh, BTW, I am not right wing as I regard those folks with differing levels as intolerant individuals and/or organizations as well. The left is equally evaluated by me. I am somewhat liberal on some issues, conservative on others and can best be described as a centrist. I can see the merit in "spirit" peoples/groups positions even if I am not a supporter outright. Intent is one thing while implementation can be quite another. Lots of good, noble ideas have been corrupted from their original benevolence.

Without question, I regard this administration as treasonous. In my opinion they are trying to destroy the middle class and are being successful in their efforts. Totalitarian societies can't exist with a middle class. There are the elite masters and the vassal slaves. Look around the world and you will see this situation over and over again. It is sick.

[Ben Shockley]

no need to be dramatic.  the political boards aren't even moderated, anyway.
edit:  and nobody has ever been banned from this forum for an opinion.

Okay, understood, and I am encouraged.     Folks, what you read from me in here is real.   I HOPE that some of what I read isn't. 

[McPhallus]

I thought you already were.

No, I'll sic HAL on your White ass to fact-check.  I said "99%."

I figured you were claiming the 99% just so you could backpedal when confronted.  99-100%. Same difference. But hey, I guess I'm a 1%-er.

[Camazotz Automat]

Why can't we all just get along? 

Oh, the humanity!

Anyway...

Speaking of Clint. When he threw that little girl's pet turtle in The Beguiled, that was a deal breaker for me. Up to that point, I was like, "that old bitch cut off his leg!" and I was against the women.

Then he threw in the turtle. I will never forget that horrible cracking sound. Poor turtle! Glad they cut off your leg, Clint!

It took years for Clint to make it up to me. I don't think I fully came around until Every Which Way But Loose.

Then I was like, "hey, he's a funny guy. He ain't no turtle killer," and apparently, his leg had regenerated after he emerged resurrected like a Cicada Clint from the hand sewn giant wallet leathercraft kit in which he had been interred. Everyone was happy. (well, except for maybe the stunt turtle.)

But he still deserved to die from poisonous mushrooms in The Beguiled.

Made me so mad!

And that is the political engine explained.

It's just musical chairs with machine guns and in the end, a group of women sewing up your death bag.

And if you have surmised this was a partial script idea we came up with while table tanking on a speech for Peter in a Family Guy episode, you would be correct, Sir!

Turtle killer!

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[coaster]

It took years for Clint to make it up to me.  I don't think I fully came around until Every Which Way But Loose.

That dumb ape couldn't act at all. I'm talking about Sondra Locke of course.

[McPhallus]

That dumb ape couldn't act at all. I'm talking about Sondra Locke of course.

"Right turn, Clyde."

[Camazotz Automat]

While I appreciate the reality of naturally branching topics, this thread is more about the turtle-cidal Clint Eastwood and his political chessboard.

Please restrict comments about Sondra Locke to our very popular Sondra Locke Is A Big Dumb Ape thread.  (Not to be confused with our Take Your Stinking Paws Off Me, You Damned Dirty Ape thread.)

Also, we're diligently working on a Clyde smiley face to use in both topics. Please be patient.

Thank you. 

- the admin

[The General]

whoa ... that's a lot of people.  wait .. there aren't 110 bilion people in the US.  heeeyyyyyy what gives?!!!

Other than the miscount, the General is right on the mark (post 27)

I never said billion.  How did you both read billion instead of million?

[b_dubb]

110,000 million individuals

one thousand million equals ... 1 billion?  i dunnooooo

[The General]

one thousand million equals ... 1 billion?  i dunnooooo

oh that.  right.

[HAL 9000]

oh that.  right.

You're forgetting our motto:

Don't clutter this up with facts and accurate information. Please, it's quite uncouth.