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Started by sillydog, April 07, 2008, 11:21:45 PM

Meister_000

Quote from: littlechris on August 27, 2015, 06:23:27 PM

I think Art should completely do away with his paranormal news segment (which i happen to enjoy) and convert that into commercial space for his Am stations.

Excellent idea. (though I've always thought it was silly, gimmicky dead-weight anyway)

Uncle Duke

Quote from: sydtron on August 27, 2015, 09:52:03 PM
Oh snap Truth or Trash!!!  I think I just brapped in me speedo!!!"

TMI

El Kragen

What about letting the big radio stations do what they want with the show after it's broadcast? The live show gets done how Art wants it done then it gets shipped to the other stations. They can chop it up how they like with commercials and station breaks. The problem would be if they want live content only not pre recorded.

El Kragen

When listening to the show on TuneIn app it show a number in the corner. Tonight it's 187k. Does that mean there are 187,000 people listening or at least have the app open to MITD?

Morgus

Quote from: bateman on August 27, 2015, 05:46:05 PM
How much are ads on Coast?  ;D
They can't be too expensive considering the recent ads heard on c2cam like "squatty potty"  8)

Well MITD's been on for several weeks now and it's looking like all the drama is behind us thankfully, and in retrospect, this is probably the best career move Art could have made.  If Art had stuck with Coast or his Sirius show, all we would have is three or four hours of Art per day, but thanks to his decision to go independent, now we have an entire 24/7 NETWORK of programming to look forward to, and Art even scored Coast's coveted science adviser to start his own show that has turned out surprisingly well.  It all turned out for the best. :)

ProfGreggory

Quote from: El Kragen on August 27, 2015, 10:27:32 PM
When listening to the show on TuneIn app it show a number in the corner. Tonight it's 187k. Does that mean there are 187,000 people listening or at least have the app open to MITD?
That number? It's the number of comments posted about the DMDN, not listeners. On the iOS app, it's next to a speech bubble.

malliard

i still can't believe the marketing plan of the king is prank calls.

BellBoy

Quote from: malliard on August 28, 2015, 04:53:44 AM
i still can't believe the marketing plan of the king is prank calls.

It may indeed be time to hire an actual publicist...

Freyja

Quote from: Art Bell on August 27, 2015, 08:35:46 PM
How about a campaign to call other shows and just say Art Bell is back! That's all they would need to do a Google search and find the show, but I don't think it's a good idea on Coast because (being honest here) that I want their caller's.



Art

Spam calls by your listeners to other radio programs?

WADR Art, that has no class as a marketing strategy IMHO. Get your people to get you on some of these other shows as a guest where you can promote yourself and MITD if you think this is a good vehicle to get the word out.

SredniVashtar

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on August 27, 2015, 09:26:52 PM
     Shep Smith: "We have a witness to the shootings in Virginia this morning on the phone with us. Sir, tell us what you saw..."

      Caller: "Yeah, the guy took out his gun and...ART BELL! Midnight in the Desert!!!!!

     
            Yeah, probably not the greatest tactic for spreading the word.


'myes, much as I revere the old boy, I don't think this is one of his best ideas - "Baba Belly!"

That does rather run the risk of conflating Art with all the other tedious shock jock types, and that's not what he's about, thank goodness. Well, all have bad ideas now and again, no harm no foul. I think we are witnessing Art's Alpha personality chafe a bit at doing something that isn't drawing a huge audience. I'm sure he was perfectly sincere before about doing a show that was 'smaller but better' than the other guy, but I guess he has his game face on now and wants to search and destroy. If he wants to do that, I don't think he has any other option than to bite on a towel and do some deal with the dark side of AM radio. The Art Bell of old managed to shape a generation (I don't think that's an overstatement) about the paranormal, and I suppose he wants to be talked about again, not unreasonably. For all that people say that podcasting is the future, if you want to get talked about you still need to be in the mainstream media, in some way. Even Stern, who was supposedly happy broadcasting to three men and a dog on Sirius, started getting the itch and had to do a talent show so that people noticed him again.

nika01

Quote from: SredniVashtar on August 28, 2015, 08:06:18 AM
'myes, much as I revere the old boy, I don't think this is one of his best ideas - "Baba Belly!"

That does rather run the risk of conflating Art with all the other tedious shock jock types, and that's not what he's about, thank goodness. Well, all have bad ideas now and again, no harm no foul. I think we are witnessing Art's Alpha personality chafe a bit at doing something that isn't drawing a huge audience. I'm sure he was perfectly sincere before about doing a show that was 'smaller but better' than the other guy, but I guess he has his game face on now and wants to search and destroy. If he wants to do that, I don't think he has any other option than to bite on a towel and do some deal with the dark side of AM radio. The Art Bell of old managed to shape a generation (I don't think that's an overstatement) about the paranormal, and I suppose he wants to be talked about again, not unreasonably. For all that people say that podcasting is the future, if you want to get talked about you still need to be in the mainstream media, in some way. Even Stern, who was supposedly happy broadcasting to three men and a dog on Sirius, started getting the itch and had to do a talent show so that people noticed him again.

Yes, I agree. It is a bad idea. I wish that there was some clarification about this drive to expand, is it because the show is on shaky ground, or is it just the desire to get bigger?


michio

Quote from: MichaelFromVA on August 27, 2015, 06:30:46 PM
Alex Jones I'm sure would be delighted to have Art on.  Alex Jones is buddies with Joe Rogan and maybe Joe could help set that up in exchange for Art going on his podcast?

I could be wrong, but I don't see that happening in the third millennium.

SredniVashtar

Quote from: michio on August 28, 2015, 08:19:44 AM
I could be wrong, but I don't see that happening in the third millennium.

Rogan loves (or used to at any rate) the conspiracy stuff so it makes sense for him. Art doesn't have any truck with 9/11, for example, so it would be a pathetic disaster and I'd really start to wonder what was going on if he popped up on a show like that. I don't know how many listeners Jones gets anyway, but he's hardly a media fireball - he's just a nitwit who pops up on tv shows and makes a prick of himself.

Art's announcement is a little troubling, though, and makes you wonder what is happening behind the scenes. He's obviously someone who gets itchy if he isn't moving forward in some way, so perhaps it's just the fact that things are proving slower to take off than he had hoped or expected. I hope it's just that and not that he is pulling in a very small subscriber base. Perhaps he should give Phil Hendrie a call and ask him how it's done, he seems to be doing okay, and gave Art a brief mention on the show the other day.

WhiteCrow

Quote from: SredniVashtar on August 28, 2015, 08:06:18 AM
'myes, much as I revere the old boy, I don't think this is one of his best ideas - "Baba Belly!"

That does rather run the risk of conflating Art with all the other tedious shock jock types, and that's not what he's about, thank goodness. Well, all have bad ideas now and again, no harm no foul. I think we are witnessing Art's Alpha personality chafe a bit at doing something that isn't drawing a huge audience. I'm sure he was perfectly sincere before about doing a show that was 'smaller but better' than the other guy, but I guess he has his game face on now and wants to search and destroy. If he wants to do that, I don't think he has any other option than to bite on a towel and do some deal with the dark side of AM radio. The Art Bell of old managed to shape a generation (I don't think that's an overstatement) about the paranormal, and I suppose he wants to be talked about again, not unreasonably. For all that people say that podcasting is the future, if you want to get talked about you still need to be in the mainstream media, in some way. Even Stern, who was supposedly happy broadcasting to three men and a dog on Sirius, started getting the itch and had to do a talent show so that people noticed him again.

You are like the Rush Limbaugh of Bellgab... the ability to articulate with precise words my jumbled-up thoughts.

Anyway.... I always thought that Art's media blitz using social media and Bellgab had limitations.
Art is such a great broadcast personality... he's got the "build it, they will come" thingie going.
But if wants more exposure, spend the limited advertising bucks wisely and time in trenches doing the talk circuit thing.

Also guest that have a large fan base... imagine if Art got Rush on.... ol Rush would promote his appearance on his show for weeks, raging on about how Art is so much better than Dave.
And then during the broadcast, Art could "David Letterman" Rush as a blowhard for more controversy.
Next night Dave is on Art's show, for a big make-up kissy fest. But Dave isn't falling for it and has more dirty trick up his greezy sleeves and secretly buys BellGab, from the evil MV Enterprises and changes it name to Art Bell-Sucks-Gab.
...yeah that should bring in the listeners, sure a shoot'in.

Zetaspeak

Quote from: gabrielle on August 27, 2015, 09:47:09 PM
From Art's facebook page:

Tomorrow on MITD we just have fun and play TRUTH or TRASH.
This is just a fun game in which in this case listener's are encouraged to tell a WILD story which does not have to be true, but it must be told with conviction, or it can be a true WILD story. Then listener's can vote on the spot on wether the story is truth or trash. Story teller's should call on Skype, voters on the phone.
Art Bell

That sounds like it could be fun. Lets be honest we were all playing that last week on the "sold soul to the devil" line.  ;D

Mebee

Quote from: Meister_000 on August 27, 2015, 09:53:55 PM
Excellent idea. (though I've always thought it was silly, gimmicky dead-weight anyway)

I have seen that "news" segment as a bit embarrassing for the show due to the guy's chronic mispronunciation of common words. I mean, how out-of-touch does someone have to be to not know how to pronounce Beyonce'?

aldousburbank

Quote from: Mebee on August 28, 2015, 08:51:08 AM
I have seen that "news" segment as a bit embarrassing for the show due to the guy's chronic mispronunciation of common words. I mean, how out-of-touch does someone have to be to not know how to pronounce Beyonce'?
What's a Beyonce?

SredniVashtar

Quote from: Zetaspeak on August 28, 2015, 08:42:17 AM
That sounds like it could be fun. Lets be honest we were all playing that last week on the "sold soul to the devil" line.  ;D

Can someone please tell Art how to use an apostrophe!! It pisses me off beyond all human reason.

Quote from: malliard on August 28, 2015, 04:53:44 AM
i still can't believe the marketing plan of the king is prank calls.

NOT prank calls.

It`s merely a matter of strategically inserting a subtle and completely innocuous reference to Art being back on the air. I`ve already done it and there was no resistance at all.

This is basically how it goes down: "Hey Bob, I just wanted to add that I agree with...um...uh...(chuckle) sorry, I was up all night listening to Art Bell, who, btw, is back on the air.... anyway...um..the guy that just called who was in favor of the streets being repaved with( yada yada yada make it up). Easy.




SredniVashtar

Quote from: FightTheFuture on August 28, 2015, 08:56:37 AM
NOT prank calls.

It`s merely a matter of strategically inserting a subtle and completely innocuous reference to Art being back on the air. I`ve already done it and there was no resistance at all.

This is basically how it goes down: "Hey Bob, I just wanted to add that I agree with...um...uh...(chuckle) sorry, I was up all night listening to Art Bell, who, btw, is back on the air.... anyway...um..the guy that just called who was in favor of the streets being repaved with( yada yada yada make it up). Easy.

OK, fair enough. Can we compromise, then, and call them (based on your example) "laughably inept calls"?

Quote from: SredniVashtar on August 28, 2015, 08:59:00 AM
OK, fair enough. Can we compromise, then, and call them (based on your example) "laughably inept calls"?


Depending on the caller, I prefer "surreptitiously subtle."

SredniVashtar

Quote from: FightTheFuture on August 28, 2015, 09:10:56 AM

Depending on the caller, I prefer "surreptitiously subtle."

All those sibilants makes it sound a bit creepy. They might think you were a snake and whack you with a broomstick.

Mebee

Quote from: Art Bell on August 27, 2015, 08:35:46 PM
How about a campaign to call other shows and just say Art Bell is back! That's all they would need to do a Google search and find the show, but I don't think it's a good idea on Coast because (being honest here) that I want their caller's.



Art

What a bad idea!

Quote from: SredniVashtar on August 28, 2015, 09:14:19 AM
All those sibilants makes it sound a bit creepy. They might think you were a snake and whack you with a broomstick.

Considering the effulgent imaginations occupying this forum, I would hazard the snake being better camouflaged.

cweb

Truth or trash open lines? Yussssss!

See, this is how you keep things fresh. Should be a grand old time!

WhiteCrow

Quote from: FightTheFuture on August 28, 2015, 08:56:37 AM
NOT prank calls.

It`s merely a matter of strategically inserting a subtle and completely innocuous reference to Art being back on the air. I`ve already done it and there was no resistance at all.

This is basically how it goes down: "Hey Bob, I just wanted to add that I agree with...um...uh...(chuckle) sorry, I was up all night listening to Art Bell, who, btw, is back on the air.... anyway...um..the guy that just called who was in favor of the streets being repaved with( yada yada yada make it up). Easy.

Great idea!... I'll do that on the next live broadcast of MVs' Train Wreck.

sorefinger

Quote from: Art Bell on August 27, 2015, 08:35:46 PM
How about a campaign to call other shows and just say Art Bell is back! That's all they would need to do a Google search and find the show, but I don't think it's a good idea on Coast because (being honest here) that I want their caller's.



Art

You want to get the word out?  Book Donald Trump!  That is what the country is interested in, kicking the ass of the establishment and bureaucrats who have destroyed this country.  Also, your demographics are getting older, explaining why last night's show on longevity is also what is of tremendous interest to the population.  Bigfoot and UFOs can't help the middle class who have been all but wiped out by trough-feeding politicians and bureaucrats.  This is not to say that people are not interested in the paranormal, it simply means they have too many problems distracting their attention right now.  This is no longer the 90s. It's a whole new world.

aldousburbank

Quote from: WhiteCrow on August 28, 2015, 10:05:44 AM
Great idea!... I'll do that on the next live broadcast of MV's Train Wreck.
Make sure and call back at least twice.

SredniVashtar

Quote from: sorefinger on August 28, 2015, 10:15:03 AM
You want to get the word out?  Book Donald Trump!

I'd rather he interviewed that squirrel he has nesting on his head.

I know Art is into the paranormal, but interviewing Trump would be a step too far into the bizarre. Apart from his appeal to hillbillies and assorted mouth-breathers he offers no insight or amusement to the even vaguely educated. He's just another blowhard who would soil himself if people took him at his word and elected him President. Not that it would ever happen.

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