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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 11, 2011, 01:33:34 AM


albrecht

Quote from: aldousburbank on June 10, 2016, 11:09:15 AM

Wow. That made my day. Classic. No wonder he is always winning.

Quote from: TigerLily on June 10, 2016, 11:12:37 AM
Dear God in Heaven. Let this not be true. And this coming from an agnostic.

Who do you recommend for news?

These days I don't even bother with the articles, I just go straight to the comment section for the truth. All of them have agendas and are going to bend news to whatever their agenda/business is. It's insane. I've come to accept you'll probably never get the real story on anything and the only way to have a somewhat accurate picture is to read as much from as many different sources as you can. Which is why I'm a news forums junkie where you can get several perspectives, sources, reactions and views at once. 

This is why I like Trump, I'm fairly certain he won't be involved in a Screwjob on the American people. I also think he's a sharpshooter.

chefist

Quote from: TigerLily on June 10, 2016, 11:14:09 AM
So where do you get your information?

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/fronts/HOME?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME

All the major networks buy their hard news from the AP...also, the UCLA study on media bias is a must read. The summary suggests to listen to certain shows on  Fox and then CNN or NBC or ABC to get the most balance possible...Fox is right biased, CNN, ABC, NBC are left biased...

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/Media-Bias-Is-Real-Finds-UCLA-6664

TigerLily

Quote from: chefist on June 10, 2016, 11:09:11 AM
Absolutely. I don't watch it either, not CNN or any of the others. They are all biased left or right. I love reading the angry rants of "tolerant" liberals though. LOL

*sigh*  Not angry. Bored. Since Art has abandoned us and the night time podcasts are so mediocre, I have been desperate for amusement. So here I am for lack of better diversion. Just killing time

TigerLily

Quote from: chefist on June 10, 2016, 11:20:40 AM
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/fronts/HOME?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME

All the major networks buy their hard news from the AP...also, the UCLA study on media bias is a must read. The summary suggests to listen to certain shows on  Fox and then CNN or NBC or ABC to get the most balance possible...Fox is right biased, CNN, ABC, NBC are left biased...

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/Media-Bias-Is-Real-Finds-UCLA-6664

Thanks. I like a smorgasbord of outlets for news that I try to sift through for the kernels of truth.  I will read this article with my second cup of coffee and stop bothering you gentlemen for the time being

Quote from: TigerLily on June 10, 2016, 11:28:33 AM
Thanks. I like a smorgasbord of outlets for news that I try to sift through for the kernels of truth.  I will read this article with my second cup of coffee and stop bothering you gentlemen for the time being

We don't mind.

albrecht

Quote from: TigerLily on June 10, 2016, 11:28:33 AM
Thanks. I like a smorgasbord of outlets for news that I try to sift through for the kernels of truth.  I will read this article with my second cup of coffee and stop bothering you gentlemen for the time being
Keeping in mind they have their own biases and slants it is always interesting to read what people outside the county report on us. Actually the more fringe and silted NPR, Pacifica Radio, and then throw in a dash of the Jones (Mother and Alex) to get the furthest extreme view on the current happenings.

TigerLily

Quote from: VoteQuimby on June 10, 2016, 11:18:32 AM
These days I don't even bother with the articles, I just go straight to the comment section for the truth. All of them have agendas and are going to bend news to whatever their agenda/business is. It's insane. I've come to accept you'll probably never get the real story on anything and the only way to have a somewhat accurate picture is to read as much from as many different sources as you can. Which is why I'm a news forums junkie where you can get several perspectives, sources, reactions and views at once. 

This is why I like Trump, I'm fairly certain he won't be involved in a Screwjob on the American people. I also think he's a sharpshooter.

I promise. I really was going to leave. But this stopped me in my tracks.  Please, VQ, tell me your joking. I do have to sign off but now I have to come back at least to check

Quote from: TigerLily on June 10, 2016, 11:32:44 AM
I promise. I really was going to leave. But this stopped me in my tracks.  Please, VQ, tell me your joking. I do have to sign off but now I have to come back at least to check

I think Trump should be the very Foundation this country is built upon.

136 or 142

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on June 09, 2016, 08:00:05 PM
Agree with everything you've said! They made fun of a self-made billionaire who was smart enough to back Steve Jobs when Apple fired him and a GENUINE war hero who's hearing aids were, unfortunately, malfunctioning during a debate. Way to go mainstream media!  ::)

And the Republican Party made fun of John Kerry, another GENUINE war hero, and Rapist Trump made fun of John McCain, another GENUINE war hero.  Way to go Rethuglic Party!

136 or 142

Quote from: Zetaspeak on June 09, 2016, 08:10:50 PM
It is something to think about how his supporters love him because he's a "great salesman"  but isn't a big part of being a great salesman is selling people on a bill of goods that really not worth it. They somehow think he will only scam "the others" but never feel like themselves are being scammed. My gosh the guy was/is in the casino business, isn't that entire industry all about selling gullible people of riches and greatness when in reality the house always wins.

They are bit of like the chick who dates guys with bad reputation but always think "Oh he won't do it to me" spoiler he probably will.

And he lost money in the casino business.

136 or 142

Quote from: VoteQuimby on June 10, 2016, 11:33:48 AM
I think Trump should be the very Foundation this country is built upon.

A foundation built on Rapist Trump's hot air.

Rapist Trump and/or Ralph Wiggum (VQ)

136 or 142

Quote from: TigerLily on June 10, 2016, 11:14:09 AM
So where do you get your information?

You should try and skip journalists as much as possible and just read the source documents for yourself.  Of course, other than that I highly recommend Noory's news briefs at the top of the show.

It must get pretty boring in Canada huh, 136 or 142?

136 or 142

Quote from: The King of Kings on June 10, 2016, 12:18:24 PM
It must get pretty boring in Canada huh, 136 or 142?

Unfortunately true.  Having sex with farm animals no longer interests me now that it's legal.

GravitySucks

Quote from: 136 or 142 on June 10, 2016, 11:42:37 AM
And the Republican Party made fun of John Kerry, another GENUINE war hero, and Rapist Trump made fun of John McCain, another GENUINE war hero.  Way to go Rethuglic Party!

John Kerry committed treason and by all accounts received a less than honorable discharge (either general or dishonorable) and stripped of all of his medals for aiding and abetting the enemy when he met with the North Vietnamese in Paris. He was no longer on active duty when he broke the law and met with the enemy, but he was still on inactive reserves. All US military service members incur a 6 year service commitment once they enter the armed forces. His medals were stripped from him when he received this less than honorable discharge.

His medals were miraculously restored on June 4th, 1985 after he had spent 5 months working under the tutelage of Ted Kennedy in his first term in the Senate. There is a paper trail that leads to a naval board of officers that probably reviewed his records and changed his discharge to an honorable discharge at the request of President Carter, but his medals were not restored until 1985.  John Kerry has continued to refuse to allow his military records to be disclosed. He was a traitor and committed treason and should have been court-martialed for circumventing the Paris Peace talks.

136 or 142

Quote from: GravitySucks on June 10, 2016, 12:27:28 PM
John Kerry committed treason and by all accounts received a less than honorable discharge (either general or dishonorable) and stripped of all of his medals for aiding and abetting the enemy when he met with the North Vietnamese in Paris. He was no longer on active duty when he broke the law and met with the enemy, but he was still on inactive reserves. All US military service members incur a 6 year service commitment once they enter the armed forces. His medals were stripped from him when he received this less than honorable discharge.

His medals were miraculously restored on June 4th, 1985 after he had spent 5 months working under the tutelage of Ted Kennedy in his first term in the Senate. There is a paper trail that leads to a naval board of officers that probably reviewed his records and changed his discharge to an honorable discharge at the request of President Carter, but his medals were not restored until 1985.  John Kerry has continued to refuse to allow his military records to be disclosed. He was a traitor and committed treason and should have been court-martialed for circumventing the Paris Peace talks.

I believe you're confusing John Kerry with the traitor Richard Nixon.

VtaGeezer

Quote from: SredniVashtar on June 07, 2016, 10:19:49 AM
People bleat about the horrors of a decent minimum wage, but never consider that these people then have increased spending power to go out and stimulate the economy further. All the advocates of austerity are interested in is pulling up the drawbridge and screw everyone else.
Low income consumption can't stimulates the domestic economy when most consumer goods sold by popular (almost monopolistic) major chains are imported, including more US-consumed imported food than consumers realize.  When Joe Sixpack buys new Asian-made shoes  for his kids at Walmart, it does nothing to stimulate domestic production or jobs except marginally in the distribution chain, and Walmart has lobbied for years to shift even that to Mexican ports and trucks.

chefist

Quote from: VtaGeezer on June 10, 2016, 12:30:49 PM
Low income consumption can't stimulates the domestic economy when most consumer goods sold by popular (almost monopolistic) major chains are imported, including more US-consumed imported food than consumers realize.  When Joe Sixpack buys new Asian-made shoes his kids at Walmart, it does nothing to stimulate domestic production or jobs except in marginally in the distribution chain, and Walmart has lobbied for years to shift even that to Mexican ports and trucks.

I would rather pay higher prices for goods and services made in the USA, as long as it meant that every able bodied adult was gainfully employed, and generational welfare was abolished.

136 or 142

Quote from: chefist on June 10, 2016, 12:33:41 PM
I would rather pay higher prices for goods and services made in the USA, as long as it meant that every able bodied adult was gainfully employed, and generational welfare was abolished.

If you look on the internet, you can probably already do that for nearly everything you buy.

http://www.madeinamericastore.com/
http://americansworking.com/
http://www.ibuyamericanstore.com/

chefist

Quote from: 136 or 142 on June 10, 2016, 12:37:42 PM
If you look on the internet, you can probably already do that for nearly everything you buy.

It needs to be a societal and national policy. If Costco would buy 100% of their products from the US, they would be the ideal model. The best example is Publix Supermarkets. They buy the largest percent of US made products, are employed owned, have some of the highest wages and best retirement of any supermarket chain in the US.

136 or 142

Quote from: chefist on June 10, 2016, 12:41:42 PM
It needs to be a societal and national policy. If Costco would buy 100% of their products from the US, they would be the ideal model. The best example is Publix Supermarkets. They buy the largest percent of US made products, are employed owned, have some of the highest wages and best retirement of any supermarket chain in the US.

Why?  The idea of the free market is that you 'vote' with your buying decisions.

chefist

Quote from: 136 or 142 on June 10, 2016, 12:42:58 PM
Why?  The idea of the free market is that you 'vote' with your buying decisions.

"free markets" are never free...

136 or 142

Quote from: chefist on June 10, 2016, 12:45:37 PM
"free markets" are never free...

And yet you're free to buy from whomever you choose.

chefist

Quote from: 136 or 142 on June 10, 2016, 12:46:39 PM
And yet you're free to buy from whomever you choose.

Only to pay more in taxes to pay for those that are not gainfully employed...

Quote from: chefist on June 10, 2016, 12:41:42 PM
It needs to be a societal and national policy. If Costco would buy 100% of their products from the US, they would be the ideal model. The best example is Publix Supermarkets. They buy the largest percent of US made products, are employed owned, have some of the highest wages and best retirement of any supermarket chain in the US.

That is our main grocery chain here in suburban Atlanta.  I just wish Publix had a bit more variety in their selections.  I went to Publix the other day looking for T-bone steaks and all they had were New York Strip Steaks.  However, Publix is an excellent company and they close their stores on most holidays giving their associates time to spend with their families.  The same can't be said for Wal-Mart and other chains.


chefist

Quote from: 21st Century Man on June 10, 2016, 12:55:28 PM
That is our main grocery chain here in suburban Atlanta.  I just wish Publix had a bit more variety in their selections.  I went to Publix the other day looking for T-bone steaks and all they had were New York Strip Steaks.  However, Publix is an excellent company and they close their stores on most holidays giving their associates time to spend with their families.  The same can't be said for Wal-Mart and other chains.

I really like their business model...the employees are also very friendly and helpful...I became acquainted with them when I was doing some consulting work in Sarasota, FL.

WOTR

Quote from: 136 or 142 on June 10, 2016, 12:42:58 PM
Why?  The idea of the free market is that you 'vote' with your buying decisions.
Yes, and no.  I can buy from whoever the government or professional organizations have allowed to sell to me.  The government has chosen many winners / losers by tax incentives and direct investment (and regulatory restrictions.) 

For (one really dumb example), if I am in Louisiana and wish to buy a flower arrangement for my wife- I cannot just buy it from anybody.  The state has a licence to arrange flowers.  Unless the "professional" who I visit has proven to a board that they can arrange flowers in an aesthetically pleasing manner, they cannot legally engage in the trade.

Thank goodness they have protected the public from rogue flower arrangers- but they have limited my ability to "vote"with my dollars. 

The same thing happens with telephone regulation, cable companies, almost all industry, food and even my dentist (I would really rather save a few dollars next time and get a root canal by a mechanically inclined neighbour...)  After that, they tax me to reduce my share of the "vote" by reducing the dollars that I can spend and then override my interests by purchasing from their friends and those who donate to their campaigns.

A free market is as rare as a white buffalo.

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