Nibiru/Nemesis/Planet X

[ringthane]

1. Go to http://www.google.com/sky/
2. Type in Virgo, hit enter. Virgo constellation will load.
3. Hit the - (minus) button on the zoom tool bar (left side) 5 times. This will zoom the map out.
4. Blue star, bottom center of map -- this is Spica. Double-click it to center it and slightly enlarge.
5. Turn on the infrared map by hitting infrared button, upper right.

What is being blocked out? You can tell due to drift it's not completely redacted.

Who has been following this G1.9 brown dwarf story?

[ringthane]

As a comparison, here's the non-infrared.

FWIW, I'm an amateur photographer that dabbles in astrophotography. I've stacked CCD images with dark frames, have done mapped color SII/Ha/OIII, know about emissions, etc etc. I'm trained enough to know the difference between Venus and a Pleiadean Mothership.

Not that my layman status means anything, just tossing that out there.

[ringthane]

Or you can just type Spica into google sky, zoom out a few times and then hit infrared. Here's a direct link.

Wikisky has also blacked this area out (which makes sense, if they're using the same IRAS data).

[MV/Liberace!]

Or you can just type Spica into google sky, zoom out a few times and then hit infrared. Here's a direct link.

Wikisky has also blacked this area out (which makes sense, if they're using the same IRAS data).

hmm... this is very interesting.  do these redactions occur commonly at all?   or could it be some sort of panoramic assembly error?

[Renaldo]

If 'they' were trying to purposely hide Planet X, it seems like they would do a better job of using the cut/paste feature in MS Paint to make it look like more Outer Space instead of just blocking it all out in Suspicious Black.  If they upgraded to Photoshop I'm betting they'd be able to airbrush it right out and we'd all be none the wiser.  I'm thinking it's more of an anomaly or error in the software assembling the image like MV suggests.

[ringthane]

assuming it's an error is reasonable since it's the simplest explanation. However:

1. To answer MV, no, I know of no other instance of this happening in any other area of a sky map and

2. Google Sky, Wikisky, WWT and other sky maps all show this 'censored' box -- and they're all different sizes.

So, if it was a mapping/stitching/rendering error, then it's happening on all the sites in precisely the same area of the sky.

In other words, it's being post edited.

Originally, a few months back, this was a much more apparent 'human edit' when one of the skymaps placed an innocuous smiley face style logo over the spot.

I'm not saying this is an annunaki slave ship -- what I'm saying is that there's something afoot with Chandra/G1.9, and this area looks suspiciously post-processed. For what reason, I do not know.

[ringthane]

If 'they' were trying to purposely hide Planet X, it seems like they would do a better job of using the cut/paste feature in MS Paint to make it look like more Outer Space instead of just blocking it all out in Suspicious Black.  If they upgraded to Photoshop I'm betting they'd be able to airbrush it right out and we'd all be none the wiser.  I'm thinking it's more of an anomaly or error in the software assembling the image like MV suggests.

Just one more thought renaldo, i agree with you wholeheartedly, but (you knew there had to be a but)...

The default map shows nothing. If you didn't know to check the IR spectrum, 99.999999999% of the population would never even see the box if they did a 1 in 1 trillion search and happen to stumble upon Spica. Most folks would not even know that stars, astral bodies etc. appear differently with different wavelengths, emissions, etc. You would have to do a specific search for Spica, and specifically request to view the area in infrared.

How many people are going to do that? Nobody, except for maybe some coastgab miscreant. In that case, for the 1 in 6 billion that are going to bother to look, they plop down a black box in MS Paint, and any normal-minded folk can just chalk it up to a rendering/stitching error.

[ringthane]

One last point, and I swear I'll quit letting Hoagland hijack my account.

Let's say it *is* just a normal rendering error. Oops, mistakes happen, right?

Then what IR emission is that? It's something completely new and undiscovered; go to the IAU. Claim it!

It's not new or undiscovered, clearly. It's G1.9. And it's being redacted from skymaps.

It's the same G1.9 brown dwarf the Russians are calling NASA out on the carpet for. It's being redacted because NASA can't (or won't) explain it because it doesn't fit into current orbital mechanic models. Think Velikovsky. I think we may be witnessing something similar to the shift from Newtonian to quantum physics here. IMHO, it scares NASA because they don't have the vocabulary to explain it.

[Renaldo]

2. Google Sky, Wikisky, WWT and other sky maps all show this 'censored' box -- and they're all different sizes.

So, if it was a mapping/stitching/rendering error, then it's happening on all the sites in precisely the same area of the sky.

In other words, it's being post edited.

Still 'not necessarily'.  I believe all of these sites are getting their images from the Digital Sky Survey, so they're all getting the exact same images and data.  So, what you see on one site, you should be seeing on all the sites.  Here is either a site explaining why it's not a great conspiracy, or alternately, disinformation explaining it all away:

http://yowcrooks.wordpress.com/2010/12/03/the-black-boxes-in-google-sky-wikisky-and-microsoft-world-wide-telescope-are-not-censored-by-nasa/

Also, do you read http://blog.wikisky.org/ ?  They discuss anomalous data here, and address Nibiru and Anunaki slave ships among other issues.  I'm not saying anything there explains away those images, just on a related note it's an interesting site to read.

[ringthane]

2. Google Sky, Wikisky, WWT and other sky maps all show this 'censored' box -- and they're all different sizes.

So, if it was a mapping/stitching/rendering error, then it's happening on all the sites in precisely the same area of the sky.

In other words, it's being post edited.

So, what you see on one site, you should be seeing on all the sites.

Except we're not. Google Sky, WWT and Wikisky are showing different data.

Before i continue, let me thank you for the thoughtful response. And thanks for the link, I've done a cursory glance an plan to do a full read-through tonight. With that said, after doing a quick scan of the link you provided:

The debunking article is on an obvious rendering error originating from Orion, and an obvious misinterpretation made by an idiot. It's like a 5 year old tossing a softball to Babe Ruth. There's not even anything there to debunk -- anyone with a 10"+ Dob can point it at Orion and see nothing is being hidden. Just look up above you in the winter sky -- it's right there.

The 'missing' image I'm referring to has nothing to do with data gathered from Palomar in 1958 -- the missing data is from IRAS. The debunking link referenced is talking about DSS, which can be verified by any amateur with a telescope or binoculars

What I'm talking about is coming out of Virgo. The object in question is 1) below the horizon (2° below ecliptic, can only be viewed in October) and 2) mere mortals couldn't check on it because it requires an IR scope (or a scope with a DSLR attached with the internal IR filter removed, which many astrophotographers do).

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EDIT -- I've been on this for a few hours now, bird dogging data. IRAS data is a bitch to browse, I've been researching how IRAS (ca. 1983) was converted to IRIS, etc.

I found something of interest. Original IRAS satellite data. I chose object HD 120170 coordinates  since that was the most central object in the so called 'censored black box'. Specific coordinates for those interested: 13h 47m 58.79s -08d 47m 22.7s, Equ J2000.

I chose full micron band. 5° by far gives the fullest, crispest resolution. Click the link below:

http://irsa.ipac.caltech.edu/cgi-bin/ISSA/nph-issa?objstr=HD120170&size=5.0+deg&band=5&submit=submit

Interesting. Make of it what you will.

ps -- if anyone is interested in this stuff, you'll see a FITS image format, a format many astrophotographers will be familiar with. Photoshop doesn't read FITS images but Gimp (and dedicated astronomy software) can view them.

[ringthane]

Ok, shit is getting interesting.

I decided alright, we looked at the visible spectrum (DSS) and nothing is there (apparently, but dark stars are called that for a reason). IR data from IRAS near Virgo is either corrupt/missing (debunkers) or censored (conspiracy lunatrons).

So, why not check x-ray data from Chandra, launched in 1999? IRAS was back in 1983. Surely -- **SURELY** -- I would stumble throughout the interwebs, struggling for hours to find a Chandra image database only to discover -- sigh -- there's no conspiracy.

Right?

Right folks? All you reasonable minded, sober and Occam's Razor folks... right? Nothing to see here, move along?

Go here:

http://cxc.harvard.edu/XATLAS/

Lower left of page, you'll see a search field under SIMBAD (simbad is just a way to grab coordinates). Type in HD120170 and hit search. (Again, I'm just using that as a central point of the ostensible censored black box found on google sky, wwt and wikisky.)

On the search results page, about half way down scroll to the section labeled plots and images. Click on Aladin Preview. You will now see a b/w preview.

On the lower left side, click on one of the IRAS fits. Open the image in a FITS editor.

I've attached the image.

It appears that two satellites, launched 16 years apart, experienced data errors in the exact same area of the sky... or the images are being censored ipso facto.

[ringthane]

I've resized the FITS image from the Chandra satellite to match the IRAS data shown in google sky/wikisky as closely as possible.

One satellite, launched 1983, infrared. An x-ray telescope, launched 1999 on STS-93. Both showing a data error in the precise location in the sky.

Discuss.

[Renaldo]

Well, it's fairly obvious there's a big blurry block floating around in that sector of space. 

Seriously, it definitely is food for thought.  I agree, I don't see a reasonable explanation for this.  I have no idea why it's happening, but I still think if there was a true coverup, there's much easier and convincing ways to fake an image than  a big obtrusive block.  Maybe not though, because if the person physically fixing the pics was against what they were doing, they might make it stick out like a sore thumb purposely.  Hmmm.....

[MV/Liberace!]

Well, it's fairly obvious there's a big blurry block floating around in that sector of space. 

ROFL!!!!!!  i about lost my mud when i saw this.

[ringthane]

You want conspiracy lunacy? I e-mailed RCH this data late last night and asked him to address it on tonight's show.

He cancelled tonight because he's "under the weather." BS. He's in his back yard right now, looking for the blurry block I discovered.

When I'm interviewed on Coast, I'm going to declare it a portal.

[Ataraxia]

So does this mean that the Annunaki are coming back and giants will rise from the ground and pole shift will occur? Because I'm still calling bullshit.

I hope it's some awesome portal that I can cruise through with my Merkur and travel space and time!

[ringthane]

As soon as Xenu gets off the phone with Tom Cruise I'll ask him.

[Renaldo]

You want conspiracy lunacy? I e-mailed RCH this data late last night and asked him to address it on tonight's show.

He cancelled tonight because he's "under the weather." BS. He's in his back yard right now, looking for the blurry block I discovered.

When I'm interviewed on Coast, I'm going to declare it a portal.

I think you're on to something there.  It's fascinating.  Do you remember years ago when Three Musketeers bars used to actually be three seperate bars, of chocolate, vanilla and strawberry?  I try to tell that to the kids these days, and they don't believe me.  Your portal is like those old Three Musketeers bars.  I don't believe it's a coincidence, either.  11:11.

[Agent : Orange]

The problem is that Spica is near the ecliptic. This can cause problems with imaging when solar system objects move through the field.

Check this out.

Wikisky Virgo black out: deep secrets revealed

Hope that helps!