Started by Dr. MD MD, October 24, 2022, 12:03:07 PM
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Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 07, 2022, 11:34:47 PMOkay, I've lived in the States just over six years, through two general elections and a mid term, this will be the second.The American system is based on money. Are you rich/influential? Yes? Then roll up, we'll get you lobbied. Congress (Especially the Senate)is pretty much a stagnant atrophied edifice that has no incentive to do anything for the people in general. It has been completely out of touch with the demograph of the country, unless you happen to be an octogenarian white millionaire. Just who does Chuck Grassley represent? Land? This is the thing, because each state has two Senators, California or Georgia or Florida or New York State have the same say as Wyoming, which has just over half a million people, fewer than the population of Sacramento. California has nearly 40 Million. Grassley's state Iowa just over 3 million. Yet all three have the same say irrespective of the actual votes cast for any party nationally, even if any piece of legislature doesn't directly effect that state. The big problem is US politicians are not compelled to relinquish their business interests when they take office, they can even game the markets and get no sanctions. Win win. They can (and do!) vote for legislation that will directly benefit them (and the billionaires) personally. Tax breaks for the very rich who could never spend what they already own? Absolutely. Free child care? Free health care at the point of need, bypassing the insurance companies who (and I know this is a shock) are in it for profit not health care. Oh no, that's 'socialism'. Someone explain to me why that isn't perverse. And there's the other bind, only two parties with (today) diametrically opposing views save for a very few who will compromise, but again in the current climate, unless the Republicans bow to the orange Jesus they're ostracised or worse. Neither party as they stand will represent the population, only their own tribe. It needs at least another one maybe two more parties that drop in the middle. The average education level of America is low compared with other industrialised countries. Sure, there are some truly brilliant people, but the median nationally isn't high. And it plays to the advantage of certain politicians, because an uneducated electorate is easy to manipulate, easy to convince. Certain candidates have taken it to a new level and advocated the banning of books in schools, because they're so insecure of their own value it scares them that a kid might read different opinions and arrive at their own rather than that of the bigot dictating what they read. And certain teachers in certain states are leaving, so the self fulfilling prophecy might realise sooner rather than later. Such as the I think two dozen plus 'props' on the bill for this years election here. They're referendums. Our letterbox has been crammed with the mailing crap. And if you don't think lying matters; let me remind you about what happened in 2016 in the UK. Boris Johnson, Micheal Gove, Nigel Farage and others pushed the myth that if the UK pulled out of the EU, then fluffy bunnies would skip in the meadows, fluffy clouds would rain liquid gold and Britain would gain respect throughout the world because they were free of the shackles of the EU.. We're in 2022, since then the UK is on it's FORTH PM, the mendacious Johnson long gone and still rich. But what of Brexit? Well, the economy is fucked, you think the inflation in the US is poor, it has a rate that right now the UK would dream of having. And NOT ONE politician that advocated Brexit has even acknowledged that the issues that were predicted by the remainers (and came to pass) have anything to do with Brexit! Delusion isn't even close. There's a real possibility that the UK will tank it's currency, I don't mean drop to parity with the dollar but really tank. And it could have been avoided, but the liars won. It's what they wanted but they're too cowardly to own it. They essentially forced the deportation of EU citizens who until Brexit had freedom of movement to work and live..Now they've gone, the hospitality industry has no staff to make the beds in hotels, Fruit growers have no-one to help with the harvest. Farmers cannot sell their stock anyway because the paperwork they didn't need in the EU they now do, and so don't have the freedom of transit, miles and miles of trucks at the ports as they wait for custom clearance, supermarket shelves not close to how they were when I left the UK..And it will only get worse. All because of a lie.
Quote from: K_Dubb on November 08, 2022, 09:48:39 AMAfter complaining about poorly educated, easily manipulated American voters, you then complain about gullible Brexiteers falling for the same sort of thing. Maybe it's just you?I really hate Englishers coming over here and acting superior, as though it's always BBC 4 vs. our History Channel ftw, when everyone knows you guys have had a voracious appetite for tabloid nonsense for generations and the coarsening of our American political dialogue can be traced to infiltration by your trashy media. A lot of the same people. A few years ago there was a fad, it was as though every cable news station had their carpetbagging bong prating away in their godawful accent about American politics. This is all your fault.The ballot box is the great leveler where a coddled academic and a coal-rolling trumpkin have exactly the same power, and that is really your problem with it. No amount of British classist listen-to-your-betters nagging can, or should, work here. Blaming education levels for a result you don't like is barely more credible than claiming voter fraud, it's just rationalizing away the empirically demonstrated fact that people don't agree with you.
Quote from: SredniVashtar on November 08, 2022, 10:04:42 AMYou are such a hateful queen. Anyway, claiming that the average Yank is an ignoramus is hardly controversial, I have been illustrating this point for many years despite your fey, ineffectual, hand-waving attempts to bandy words with me. Any country that could elect Trump doesn't deserve to be taken seriously. It's Caligula's horse all over again. Have you seen some of the candidates up for election? Fucking hell, It's a perp walk of crapulous idiocy, and you're in denial with all your artisan coffee and promiscuous dockside rogerings.
Quote from: K_Dubb on November 08, 2022, 10:15:27 AMYou forget, we also fired him. Suck on it bong.
Quote from: SredniVashtar on November 08, 2022, 10:29:22 AMWell, the unflushable turd is coming for another round and I'm sure you idiots are already unbuckling your pants (although most of you can't find a belt that fits) and have broad retard grins all ready to go.
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 08, 2022, 04:06:39 PM
Quote from: malachi.martini on November 08, 2022, 04:15:50 PMI was forced to watch this dysgenic fraud at University by multiple professors. Gradually, I began to hate them.Looks like he didn't reproduce, Alhamdulillah.
Quote from: SredniVashtar on November 08, 2022, 08:08:05 AMI enjoyed this so much I'm not even going to point out the spelling mistakes or use of the grocer's apostrophe, but see me in my office for a private spanking and we'll say no more about it.However, I honestly don't see how you regard the two parties as having diametrically opposing views - they look more or less the same to me, the differences are mostly top-dressing. Most American politicians are far wealthier than their equivalents in the UK, even the low-ranking ones, and their views are consistent with very well-off people who don't want to rock the boat. The usual rabble go on about the 'radical left' but in reality it's a handful of very mild-mannered social democrats they are talking about, who don't want to change the system at all, merely leave it in place and smooth off a few of the rougher edges. Americans must be the most mentally lazy, incorrigibly incurious bunch of cunts on the planet. Most of them stopped learning anything new the moment they left school. Political debate is now just a series of grunts: 'trans-gender', 'CRT', 'radical left' etc, and they rely on the average gum-chewing, slack-jawed Yank, with what's left of its brain destroyed by television, to go along with the nonsense they spout.The people who were responsible for Brexit now put on this weary face when you bring up the subject, as though it's old news now and nobody wants to talk about it any more, never mind the fact that they have totally fucked everything up for at least a generation. That's right, opt out of the largest trading bloc in the world without a clue what you are going to put in its place, what a marvellous idea. But at least we've got blue passports now and we have 'taken back control' whatever the fuck that even meant.My energy bill went up 50% this month, it's fucking unbelievable, and those transatlantic pig-pukes just keep going on about the price of gas, which is measly compared to the UK anyway. What a bunch of whiney gobshites!
Quote from: K_Dubb on November 08, 2022, 09:47:39 PMbusy cranking out those mail-in ballots
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 08, 2022, 09:55:44 PMSadly, that's an accurate picture of where our elections are at now.
Quote from: K_Dubb on November 08, 2022, 10:01:18 PMWhy are you whining already? It still looks like the Rs are going to take both houses of Congress.
Quote from: Walks_At_Night on November 08, 2022, 10:00:12 PMWayne Root says the Vegas gambler guys now say the Dems hold the Senate.
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 08, 2022, 10:03:12 PMBecause when an eletions are rigged there is really only one option left: rebellion and revolution.
Quote from: K_Dubb on November 08, 2022, 10:13:02 PMChoke down another cheeseburger you goof
Quote from: Asuka Langley on November 08, 2022, 10:17:44 PMWE DID IT BOYS! Biden/Fetterman 2024!