Web browsers

Started by Juan, August 14, 2017, 12:45:40 PM

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Juan

Although this is absurd, it appears one now has to choose a web browser based on politics.   Google added "diversity" to the Newspeak dictionary, and Mozilla has just announced it is working with George Soros to purge the internet of "fake news." We all know the problems that Microsoft browsers have had.
What happened to the free internet?

Anyway, what about Opera?  Does it have any politics?

zeebo

Quote from: Juan on August 14, 2017, 12:45:40 PM
Anyway, what about Opera?  Does it have any politics?

Maybe some 19th century Italian stuff.

starrmtn001

Quote from: Juan on August 14, 2017, 12:45:40 PM
Although this is absurd, it appears one now has to choose a web browser based on politics.   Google added "diversity" to the Newspeak dictionary, and Mozilla has just announced it is working with George Soros to purge the internet of "fake news." We all know the problems that Microsoft browsers have had.
What happened to the free internet?

Anyway, what about Opera?  Does it have any politics?

I hope this helps you, Juan. :)

Firefox Now Engages in Propaganda and Censorship; Make the Switch Today!  8.13.17.

https://youtu.be/PK4h-l1PLGM

Juan

Thanks, Starr. I'm trying Palemoon on the recommendation of Styxx.

starrmtn001

Quote from: Juan on August 14, 2017, 05:06:24 PM
Thanks, Starr. I'm trying Palemoon on the recommendation of Styxx.
Please, also check the comments below.  There are pros and cons on just about all the alternate browsers out right now.  It's very confusing for someone who isn't all that tech savvy (like me, for example, lol).

I hope BellGab's best tech gurus read your thread and give us their lowdown on the browser matter. ;)


zeebo

I'm tied to FF because of various plug-ins I can't live without.  Some of them or a reasonable alternative are available on other browsers but I always end up back on FF to get everything working right.  I think their best version was like five years ago and I abhor their constant updates but I've given up on that. 

Juan

I see that Opera is now owned by the Chinese.
I'm logged in with Brave now.  If it works on Bellgab...

damon

Do not forget about the default browser for Bellgabber, firefub. ;)

triola

Most of the browsers available currently use Chrome or Mozilla components. So, essentially, you are supporting Google or Firefox if not Microsoft, regardless of what browser you choose.

Chrome..........Google
Firefox.........Mozilla

Browser.........Engine:

Int. Explorer...Microsoft
Edge............Microsoft
Opera...........Chrome
Epic............Chrome
Brave...........Chrome
Yandex..........Chrome
Comodo..........Chrome
Pale Moon.......Firefox
Tor.............Firefox


Most of the more recent entries have smaller dev teams, so updates, fixes and security may not be as current as with the larger concerns from which they derive their components.

Opera:  in 2016 it was sold to a Chinese equity fund for 600M.
Epic:   A relatively new India-centric browser.
Brave:  Opt-in advertiser payment scheme.
Yandex: By Russian web search team, Yandex.
Comodo: Has known security and privacy issues.
Pale Moon: Customizable, uses depricated add-on code.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opera_(web_browser)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_(web_browser)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brave_(web_browser)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yandex_Browser
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comodo_Dragon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pale_Moon_(web_browser)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network)#Tor_Browser

I use browsers that have  the features I need and  provide a modicum of security/privacy, I currently use Firefox and open-source Chromium (sans Google extensions) as my daily drivers and Tor for anything more privacy-critical.


zeebo

Quote from: damon on August 14, 2017, 06:46:25 PM
Do not forget about the default browser for Bellgabber, firefub. ;)

The 'Fub is great but the learning curve is steep.  For instance instead of menus, all actions must be typed in using its proprietary MV-DOS command language.  And to reach any site besides bellgab you must enter its designated 60-character alphanumeric sequence (which changes weekly for security purposes).


wr250

Quote from: triola on August 14, 2017, 07:33:04 PM
Most of the browsers available currently use Chrome or Mozilla components. So, essentially, you are supporting Google or Firefox if not Microsoft, regardless of what browser you choose.

I use browsers that have  the features I need and  provide a modicum of security/privacy, I currently use Firefox and open-source Chromium (sans Google extensions) as my daily drivers and Tor for anything more privacy-critical.

chromium is ok , still a google product. firefox can be looked upon the same way. i stay far away from tor.
reasons:
a. developed by the US govt
b. could have a backdoor that is unknown except to said 3 letter agencies
3. the above agencies have show (via wikileaks/vault7) that they intentionally imitate chinese/russian/other coding styles to hack into "other computers" then blame the russians/chinese/whoever.

the_Stranger

Quote from: Juan on August 14, 2017, 12:45:40 PM
Although this is absurd, it appears one now has to choose a web browser based on politics.   Google added "diversity" to the Newspeak dictionary, and Mozilla has just announced it is working with George Soros to purge the internet of "fake news." We all know the problems that Microsoft browsers have had.
What happened to the free internet?

Anyway, what about Opera?  Does it have any politics?
I hear the Reaganbook browser is great with regards to security, it doesn't remember anything.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: the_Stranger on August 21, 2017, 04:57:08 PM
I hear the Reaganbook browser is great with regards to security, it doesn't remember anything.

The 80s called. They want their joke back.  :D

triola

Quote from: wr250 on August 20, 2017, 10:35:34 AM
...i stay far away from tor.
reasons:
a. developed by the US govt
b. could have a backdoor that is unknown except to said 3 letter agencies
3. the above agencies have show (via wikileaks/vault7) that they intentionally imitate chinese/russian/other coding styles to hack into "other computers" then blame the russians/chinese/whoever.

Good points, wasn't aware of the gov. connection. Other options?

damon

Quote from: triola on August 22, 2017, 01:52:43 PM
Good points, wasn't aware of the gov. connection. Other options?
Firefub


the_Stranger

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on August 21, 2017, 11:00:21 PM
The 80s called. They want their joke back.  :D
I know it's called freedombook now, but that's not as catchy as reaganbook.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: the_Stranger on August 22, 2017, 06:45:31 PM
I know it's called freedombook now, but that's not as catchy as reaganbook.

Yeah, Reagan was pretty catchy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7SQKGHUR5c


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