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#1
Looking at some of this stuff I kind of wonder why some of you listen to the show at all?

I loved the show when Art was hosting and they would get into some of the more creepy stuff. I used to work late and would listen to the show and on more than one occasion it had me so scared I went around and turned on all the lights in the office.

Now, almost all the topics are mind numbingly dull. It has become a show with a dim witted nincampoop trying to display what he finds interesting. The really low level of intelligence it takes to see through these topics is an indication of how dumb the audience has become. How anyone can find numerology, food, or religion at all interesting has a pretty low threshold for what they'll accept as true. I harp on about crystals. I can't think of one single sentence that would be interesting about crystals. The most interesting thing about them is their geological creation, and thats not interesting at all.

Let's face it... Art used to make things interesting because, regardless of the topic, he approached these topics with an intelligence and the ability to ask questions that an intelligent person would have to have answered to give any credence to the topic. Thus, he could take something you normally would write off as nonsense, and he would force the guest to present evidence that would make it at least possible, in theory.

George doesn't have the intellectual curiosity to consider the logical questions you need to ask about some of these topics.  The only way you will get a good show when he is the host is when the topic is interesting enough on its own that hearing the guest speak about it is inherently interesting. George will inevitably bring the topic down to the LCD, and ask the most obvious and stupid questions, many of them the guest will already have answered. You will get maybe a good 45 minutes to an hour at the very best out of a 4 hour show.

Like most everyone else, I wont listen to anything to do with religion. If I wanted to hear this, there are plenty of religious stations that have it on all day long.

Angels just turn into schmaltz. Anything that becomes a sentimental, hallmark hall of fame show is garbage.

on a similar topic, is anyone else pissed about the "prayer list" he has every week? I've talked about it in another thread. I have no problem with people praying, but this just turns it into the 700 club. that's not at all in line with the audience Art was getting... but noory is too stupid to understand that.

i cant remember his name, but he keeps having his guy on, i think he's irish, and the guy is just a terrible radio guest. he was last on to talk about hp lovecraft. i find lovecrarft interesting, and normally, just hearing about the guys life and his work would be something that would be able to overcome noory's ignorance. unfortunately the guys droning, pausing "uhh uhh uhh" delivery made it impossible to listen to him. i turned it off.

honestly, i dont agree with a word that comes out of his mouth, but alex jones is at least a talented broadcaster and can overcome george's dumb questions. He can take one of noory's idiotic queries and spin a 10 minute conspiracy so floridly insane it is actually gripping just seeing where he's going to end up.

but folks, we now have a show that caters to dumb people, and until we get noory out of there, its going to be after that audience. noory really shouldnt be hosting this show. he should be a morning, drive time dj. those shows thrive off of bland pleasantness. people dont want to hear anything challenging or thought provoking in the morning. hey just want a nice pleasant voice to drone along while they are having their coffee and trying to wake up. all you have to do is not be controversial. Art's stock in trade was controversy, or challenging topics, or thought provoking radio. it was a bad mistake and a betrayal of the audience when they brought in this idiot to host a show we all loved.
#2
Radio and Podcasts / Is there anything we can do...?
November 06, 2012, 02:34:04 AM
Hey,

I am relatively new to this forum, so please forgive me as I'm sure this has to have been covered at some point, but I wasn't able to find any specific mention, which is probably my own incompetence more than anything else, so please be kind to a rookie here, BUT...

is there anything we can do to at LEAST register our displeasure with noory? I know it wold probably be of no use, but maybe a petition or letter writing campaign to clear channel or something? or a boycott of the sponsors? like i sai, I'm sure it probably wouldnt accomplish much but at least we'd feel like we were doing something and we'd get our voices on the record.. maybe we could take our complaints to a competitor and tell them there is an audience ready and waiting for them if they make a show to compete with snoory...

and if it matters, I've been a listener since about 97. loved art... got me through a lot of late nights at work, and even scared me so much a few times i had to turn on all the lights inthe office.

unless you're scared of food or numbers or crystals, noory's not sgetting any reaction from you...

anyway, a question, probably a dumb one... so again, please forgive my newbiness.
#3
crystals. i can't imagine a topic with less intrinsic interest than crystals, and he seems to do 3 shows a week on it.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I used to like the spooky stuff... EVP, ghosts, bigfoot. Esp scientific investigations of that stuff. but when it turns into spiritual, aura/dimensional mumbo jumbo, not only is it less interesting, but its ridiculous. Man, I used to LOVE bigfoot shows. i can remember being all fired up to listen to the show on streamcast the next day, and the idiot started talking about how bigfoot is a dimensional creature that blah blah blah blah...

if its a scientific approach, its something you can at least "think" about, give credence to, analyze, apply objective techniques.

when its spiritual, its just one guy's idea and it will never be anything else. there can NEVER be any proof. there can never be any analysis. it will only EVER be ONE PERSON'S opinion.

i think snoory relies more on this kind of stuff because his mind is not the least bit analytical. he can't think critically, so he keeps putting on topics that can only exist as opinion. you can't say someone is an idiot over a theory that is stupid to begin with.

Also, does anyone else object to the "prayer list?" I have no problem with prayer or anyone's beliefs, but to me, this just shows his turning the show into his own personal schmaltz-fest.  Something about hearing him refer to "this week's prayer list" just pisses me off... It strikes me as too close to the kind of stuff you'd hear on a televangelist show, and also to appealing to noory's personal beliefs. i know he's allowed to do that, but can anyone imagine Art doing something like that? Again, I have no problem with prayer. If anything, its almost the sound of his voice when he says it.

and i've said this before, but does anyone remember him asking Kevin Mitnick how he feels about a program called "Adobe?" That was a big one for me...
#4
I have to admit I'm in the same boat as some of the rest of you... I found the shows to be gripping radio, and sought it out to find out what I could. It's interesting that this much drama is in the background of this story.

I can't say that I find anyone here to have completely ruined the credibility of anyone else. Rob did find what seemed to be, if not necessarily omissions, then possibly less than 1000% rigorous folw up to every single case. That's fine, but I do find it odd that he gets a couple examples and then claims that this makes Mr. Paulides a FRAUD and a LIAR (or was it CON MAN? I can't recall)

And for what its worth, I do find Mr Paulides to be very compelling as well. I did want to reiterate that, despite Rob's vociferous protests (and I am not attacking Rob. Don't know him, and don't immediately dismiss everything he's saying out of hand, although he does seem to be going a little far with a few bits of essentially loose thread), Mr. Paulides does very directly address paradoxical undressing. He accepts that this may happen, but it does not seem to account for a few of the weird cases... the ones where the clothes are folded, or the pants are removed and dropped straight down, as opposed to being pulled off and thrown aside like you might expect a person in panic to do. He also addresses the fact that sometimes they are removed within yards of the place where they were last seen, and that would not seem to indicate hypothermia, since it would have to set in so quickly.

I would say even if all of these cases do not necessarily fall under "odd disappearances" and there might be an apparent stretch to make them so, there are still several compelling cases that ARE odd, and those, to me, are worth investigating. Like Mr Paulides said, even if it's just one case, that family's life was destroyed. The case deserves to be investigated to the best of the LEA's ability.

I also did find it interesting that Mr. paulides seemed to specifically go out of his way NOT to implicate bigfoot. It seemed, to me, that he knew he came with this baggage, and specifically wanted to make certain that he was NOT giving this indication. I would go so far as to suggest that he personally does not believe this to be the case, although his refusal to put forth a theory does not rule it out.

My feeling was that the relation between the two was only coincidental. While investigating one, he came across the other, and was so affected he looked further and happened to come across these cases, which would not be connected outside of someone with this approach. I know I'm not adding a whole lot here, but I do think that IMO this was all he was bringing to the discusiion.

Now, as for the bigfoot massacre story, I want to understand the reason this disqualifies him as far as these disappearances are concerned... according to the one poster (and please forgive me I forgot your name and didnt want to stop my frail mind's thought process to go back and look...), and please correct me if this is not the theory you are presenting... he is a con man bc he believes that Gimlin and Patterson were slaughtering bigfoot when the footage was taken. Now, does he condone this behavior? If so, then I am assuming the theory is that he writes this book to suggest bigfoot are all killers who we are right to hunt down and destroy, correct? If he does not condone the slaughter, then I'm not sure, other than the idea that he's a crackpot, tin foil hat wearing loony, how this discounts his missing 411 theories.

nonetheless it was great radio. And I love this forum. I used to love c2c, but if i have to listen to one more show about crystals or some other hippie dippie nonsense... anyway, my .02 there...

but seriously... crystals?
#5
Quote from: Pirate King Atomsk on June 27, 2009, 10:00:06 PM
I like them too cause they:

A) Aren't pretentious assholes like 99% of the guests about their field.

B) Have their shit together in general.

C) Bring really cool and sometimes shockingly believable EVP's.

I'm with you here. The Ghost Investigators Society. Great radio. Even some good shows with George, overcoming his moronic questions.

I also really like R. Gary Patterson. The guy knows a ton about music and really presents some cool stories
#6
Anytime that is spent on crystals is wasted time... it would be one thing if it were interesting, but an idiotic topic that is crushingly dull too?

One thing I used to hate was when they would let a potentially interesting topic be ruined by an idiot. I am usually a big fan of R. Gary Patterson, but I remember once they let some moron on with him who thought Lennon was the devil? he actually said, as proof, that the fact that Lennon said they got the name "the Beatles" from a "flaming pie", and that McCartney later named an album "Flaming Pie"... was a coincidence, and proof of supernatural occurances. Moron

Also, any discussion of Bigfoot as a "supernatural" being stops being somewhat interesting cryptoid stuff and becomes idiotic hippy-dippy blathering...

Also, I know I'm late to the party here, but what happened to the Ghost Investigators Society? Art used to have them on a lot, and they had some chilling clips... even if it was fake it was great radio.  George seemed to have trouble finding out some way to ask questions...

"is it possible these are demons?".. "Do you think these hauntings are located in places where bad things happened?"
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