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Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on July 10, 2014, 09:28:48 AM
The line right after that in the link says:
"It said the tabun-filled containers were all treated with decontamination solution and likely no longer contain any agent, but "the residue of this decontamination would contain cyanides, which would still be a hazard."

In fairness to Karl, you can't expect him to read news links and understand them unless they have a coloring book version.

Happens all the time here.

Quote from: Paper*Boy on July 10, 2014, 03:45:25 PM
So you're an expert in tea-bagging, yay. 

Compared to you, I would expect to look like an expert in many areas.

Quote from: Paper*Boy on July 10, 2014, 03:45:25 PM
you know good and well that you meant to insult the Tea Party

You figured that out for yourself?  Without any help at all?  Impressive!

Quote from: Paper*Boy on July 10, 2014, 03:45:25 PM
and you meant to do so by calling them some form of 'faggot'.  Why else would you mention 'tea-bagging'?

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I see that the lesson didn't take.  Here, let me try and explain it to you, as if to a small child.  If I call Sarah Palin a teabagger, does that mean that I am calling her a faggot?

Think really, really, really hard about it and see if you can figure it out for yourself.  No cheating, now! 

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on July 10, 2014, 10:40:55 AM
I won’t get into the debate about climate change but I’ll simply point out that I think in academia we all agree that the temperature on Mars is exactly as it is here. Nobody will dispute that.

Kentucky State Senate Minority Whip, Brandon Smith (R)

Ayep, another product of "Kentucky love."

Quote from: Paper*Boy on July 09, 2014, 10:03:08 PM

Sure.  It's a snide way for an ass-hat to try to smear the tea party.  By referring to them with a term for gays.

Amazing how it always seems to be the Libs - you know, the people always preening about gay rights - who think calling someone 'gay' is an insult.

I never thought I would be the one on this site to educate you about sex, cuzz.  But here goes.

Tea bagging is not an exclusively homosexual act.  In fact, most often it refers either to a man and a woman, or pranking someone (usually asleep or passed out) who may also be male.

Here, read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_bag_%28sexual_act%29

Do you see your fellow brain-dead neocon's definition of the act, above?  It doesn't refer to the tea-baggee as a male.  It says "person."  You might want to take special note that "person" can refer to either a male or a female.  I realize that you neocons don't consider women to be persons, but that's how the rest of the world uses the term.

It's really surprising to me how often neocons display a profound level of ignorance about things that are very simple and well-understood by normal people.  This is just another such case.

Quote from: albrecht on July 09, 2014, 07:40:20 PM
I was totally against the bailouts and for the financial reform laws that only allowed the larger banks to aggrandize more market-share. There should be no "too big to fail." The concept itself is an anathema to capitalism (or even just plain fairness.) And the leaders of the banks or individual that  conspired or was knowingly involved with in the financial fraud, ponzi schemes, or money-laundering for drug-cartels should face criminal as well as civil charges. Personally in addition to the wrist-slapping "punishments" in fines for the companies. Things shouldn't be viewed just as partisan games of right/left, but as right/wrong. It is wrong when Bush did it. It is wrong when Obama does it.
http://www.bankrate.com/financing/banking/banks-pay-fines-for-money-laundering/
But bigger than this all, especially in theory and- like betting in baseball- fundamentally undermines the whole system, is the LIBOR scandal that is hardly ever even reported on and, so far, I haven't seen much punishment from it. This is far worse than BCCI, S&L crisis, etc because not just individual fraud but systemic fraud on a grand scale.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libor_scandal

Also things like front-running, commodity price manipulation, high-frequency ETF frauds, "dark pools", etc need to be more properly investigated and punished.

No no, you misunderstand me.  I'm saying you're a moron for believing that money went for bonuses, or even that it was all spent money, which it was not.

Quote from: albrecht on July 09, 2014, 07:23:58 PM
according to PBS, that receives much of its funding from the government and is a big pro-Obama network, claims that I am correct:
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/need-to-know/economy/the-true-cost-of-the-bank-bailout/3309/

and Bloomberg:
"Bloomberg News, at one point last year the U.S. had lent, spent or guaranteed as much as $12.8 trillion to rescue the economy."

And you say you are a right winger?  Shocking news.

Quote from: jazmunda on July 09, 2014, 05:38:38 PM
I think the police are going to need an expert in comparing penises.

Can you imagine the voir dire of that witness?

Quote from: wr250 on July 09, 2014, 07:06:27 PM
ill gargle no more.

Promise?

Quote from: wr250 on July 09, 2014, 06:57:25 PM
teabagger
1. n. A man that dips his scrotum and testicles into the mouth of another person. (as if dipping a tea bag into hot water)

Thanks.  Would you kindly explain why using the term "tea bagger" in the context of talking about a political group (i.e. the Tea Party, whose first appellation was The Tea Baggers until someone took them aside and explained it) necessarily means talking about gays, AND why you believe I am trying to "promote" gays in some way?  Then, maybe, possibly, I would have some idea what you are gargling about.

Quote from: albrecht on July 09, 2014, 06:46:55 PM
Banks under Bush and Obama were hardly punished at all. Even if we ignore the fraudulent banking practices that helped lead to the crisis in mortgage backed securities and the trillions in money they got as a bonus for their hard-work. Look at the "punishments" they get when they admit money-laundering for ultra-violent drug cartels, help in massive tax-evasion schemes, or do things like manipulate the LIBOR! Slap on the wrist punishments- at best. And look at the "reform" bills that simply allow them to consolidate their market position against more honest smaller credit unions and local banks that now need to conform, at high costs, with more regulations. When the problem was caused by the "big boys" who also got trillions in money for doing so!

"Trillions" of dollars in bonuses?  Trillions, as in plural?

Let's see some support for that statement.  And not by some loony right-wing fruit-loops website.

Wait, never mind.  That is just so completely preposterous on the face of it that I know you can't POSSIBLY cite a credible authority.  All you need to do is look at the Forbes billionaires list to disprove it.

Trillions of dollars in bonuses...what a credulous fucking maroon...

Quote from: wr250 on July 09, 2014, 06:44:42 PM
your using phrase associated with those you wish to promote  (gays) , to denigrate a political group.

I wish I had some idea what you are talking about.

Quote from: MagnificentBastard on July 09, 2014, 06:24:14 PM
Quick! What would you do if a Sea Cucumber went aggro?!?

Take it to a sushi bar.  They'll know what to do.

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on July 09, 2014, 02:23:24 AM
I no longer think we can deal with it

Oh.  It's a threat to humanity because YOU no longer think we can deal with it, like we did in 2008.

Since that time, they've introduced something called "stress testing."  It's a way to predict what will happen to a bank should there be another crisis like in 2008.  If the bank doesn't pass the test, it has to take corrective action to fall in line.  Ergo, the system is more robust, not less, than it was in 2008.

There's been a fair amount of screaming for legislation to curb bank practices, the objective being to constrain them so they can't operate in a manner that is so risky that they could fail.  To no one's surprise, the right wing (not to mention the banks themselves) have dug in their heels on this point.  So here is what the Obama administration has done: they are assessing penalties to the banks for their practices that led to the mortgage crisis in 2008.  These penalties can only be described as a brutal ass-pounding.  B of A was assessed something like $13 billion, with a "B," in penalties, although I forget whether that was what they will end up paying.  It's a clever move -- the right wing gets what they want (no expansion of legislation or government size and authority); the government gets some of their money back; and the banks are held in check by what they fear the most: shareholders pissed off that the bank isn't making any money due to the massive penalties.

You are wrong when you say that the threat is greater today than in 2008, but since you frame it as an opinion you keep it safe and sound from any conclusive debunking.  Here's a thought for you, though.  Unlike just about anything else appearing on the various lists, "catastrophic failure of the banking system" lies completely within the realm of humans.  There is no external force at work here: humans created it; humans operate it; and humans can regulate it to prevent a catastrophe.   In fact, that's exactly what has been going on as long as there have been banking systems.  Crises appear due to greed, they're averted in some way, and the scar tissue from the experience is integrated into the system to prevent a recurrence.  You might like your version of the story better, and you certainly seem to in spite of the gaping flaws and utter lack of any supporting information, but that doesn't mean it's one of the biggest threats to humanity.  Like it or not, it isn't.

Quote from: albrecht on July 09, 2014, 05:16:29 PM
Last I heard he was swilling beers in Colorado on yet another junket and instructing his ICE agents to stand-down and allow the flood of diseased, and often criminal, illegal aliens swarm over the open-border. What do you mean we "got rid of "the dictator""? His supposed political enemies (Boehner, et al_ even said they don't want to initiate impeachment proceedings, so our dictator is no where close to gone or "got rid of."

Oh, look, another hysterical characterization about Obama from a tea bagger.

Quote from: Paper*Boy on July 09, 2014, 02:02:00 PM
The results put out have been riddled with errors - always on the side of alarmism.  The 'scientists' have been caught discussing how to amplify data that supports them and how to suppress data that doesn't, on and on.  And the solution is clear:  More Taxes, yay. 

Wait.  Were you talking about climate change, or how claims of WMDs got us into a war in Iraq?  Three trillion $ and counting, right?  Oh, well, at least we got rid of "the dictator."  That's one!

Quote from: Paper*Boy on July 09, 2014, 01:26:06 PM
So lets take the case of Stephen Hawking, and speculate a bit.  No doubt a very busy man.  Absorbed in his field - writing, thinking, learning, keeping up on the latest, managing his staff.  Like most successful people at his level, he probably spends much or most of his time in meetings.  I doubt he even has time to keep up on all the science from the various fields other than physics. 

There is no reason to assume he spends any time at all on 'Climate Change'.  Most likely he believes what his colleagues have to say about it, thinks anyone challenging it is some right-wing nut, and that's it.  He isn't doing the research, doesn't have any more insight than the rest of us do, and probably pays even less attention to the political component.

Incredible.  This pile of nested assumptions, not a single one of them reflecting the reality of Hawking's life right now, seems more plausible to you than the idea that he has researched the matter and believes climate change to be a concern?  Simply incredible.  No wonder you are a right-winger.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on July 09, 2014, 11:34:49 AM
resident bitch to those on the demo. Personally I think he's too old and lost his, erm, suppleness.

So what you are saying is that...er...he has a Krummlauf barrel now? (wink-wink-nudge-nudge)

Quote from: cweb on July 09, 2014, 10:54:01 AM
Or you're simply trying to be an attention whore and call MV a dick.

Add the words "...to an audience" and I think you've nailed it.

My problem is the exact opposite: I can't keep a handle from being banned.  Maybe I can use this reverse psychology to my benefit.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on July 09, 2014, 11:00:29 AM

Hush boy.

So you're saying that Karl is a rent boy?

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on July 09, 2014, 02:42:29 AM
Mmmhmm.

http://www.space.com/20605-nasa-budget-asteroid-lasso-2014.html

You should spend at least a little bit of time reading your own sources and trying to understand them.  The target size for the asteroid mentioned in the above program is about 8 meters with a mass comparable to the International Space Station.  An object of that size would burn up in the atmosphere and not impact the Earth; needless to say, we are not talking about a planet killer here.

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on July 09, 2014, 02:42:29 AM
You're brainwashed into kneejerk saying "it's impossible!" by your culture.

Not at all.  I am well-informed on the topic, so I understand what I am talking about.  You clearly do not.  You haven't even looked very carefully at the material you cite as support.

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on July 09, 2014, 02:42:29 AM
Reject it and always start by asking "how do we do it?" instead. Free your mind from automatic negativity.

You mean like you're doing with your Mad Max banking meltdown scenario?  Altering the path of a massive asteroid?  Piece of cake!  Free your mind!  How do we do it?  Intervening to ensure that "money" continues to move around between computers?  It's impossible!  Wake up!  People will be roaming the streets with studded leather vests and sticks with nails on the end of them within THREE DAYS!

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on July 09, 2014, 02:42:29 AM
As far as detecting it, we already do that. Radar. Invented over 50 years ago. Realize that we track thousands of planes each day and air traffic control them successfully among hundreds of airports. A 10 km asteroid is no biggie, so long as you bother to track it, which we're currently doing a piss poor job of. Easily fixable with a billion or so dollars spent worldwide.

You previous said "comets and asteroids."  Most comets take thousands of years to return to the inner solar system, and thus we don't know their trajectories until a matter of a few months or less before they would impact Earth.  As for asteroids, the biggest risk is the ones we don't know about.  Like with the comets, there simply isn't enough time for a collision avoidance project if the asteroid is on a collision course when we discover it.  Even supposing that we DO detect the NEO with enough time (years or decades) to implement collision avoidance, that process itself is not a trivial task.  For example, an NEO that is an aggregated rubble pile would be difficult to move or to deflect.  Implying that it is merely a matter of will, as you are doing, is fatuous.

During the filming of "Armageddon," someone asked Michael Bay why the story had a team of drillers trained as astronauts to plant the nuclear device on the asteroid, when it would have been much easier to take a team of highly trained astronauts and teach them how to drill a hole.  Bay told that person to shut up and walked away.  That's kind of how I see this discussion.  You are profoundly ignorant about this topic and yet pontificate like you have some unusual insight into the matter.   And a worse, you are actively blocking any attempts to educate you.  Feel free to take the last word; I'm done.

Quote from: paladin1991 on July 09, 2014, 09:50:17 AM
The very fact that the .gov had to step in for a correction/hail mary/assistance to the 'too big to fail' types is a tell on just how close a thing it was. 

No, it says nothing of the sort.  What it does "tell" is the magnitude of the event.  It never came anywhere close to a social collapse that would result in some kind of Mad Max dystopia.  It's just silly to claim otherwise.

Quote from: paladin1991 on July 09, 2014, 09:50:17 AM
Wake up.

Yes yes I know.  Anyone who doesn't share your alarmist POV is a sheep.  Baaaa.

Quote from: Paper*Boy on July 08, 2014, 10:37:18 PM

Well, I don't know.  Is he a meteorologist?  A climatologist?  A Liberal?

Is he an anonymous Internet retard honking a political agenda?

Answer: no

Quote from: Paper*Boy on July 08, 2014, 09:30:18 PM
Little is mentioned or done about the pollution of our groundwater, the emptying of our aquifers, habitat destruction, islands of plastic in the oceans, coral reef destruction, overfishing, and a zillion other things.  Things everyone agrees are real and are big problems.

Dude...can I call you dude?  Dude, it's like we are sharing a mind or something.  The same exact thoughts went through my mind when MV banned me during the Dark Times.

I was like, wtf dewd, don't you have anything better to do, like fixing plastic islands and halibut destruction and a zillion other things?  How about banning that shit? 

But you know MV.  If you aren't in his inner circle clique thingy, you're like dog food around here.

Quote from: Paper*Boy on July 08, 2014, 10:22:13 PM
This global warming crap has all the tell-tale signs of another Big Lie.

Stephen Hawking believes; you don't.  Which side do I take?  Decisions...decisions....

Quote from: jazmunda on July 08, 2014, 10:09:37 PM
It was easier to make fun of the Pope when he looked like Emperor Palpatine.

It was easier to make fun of the Pope when there was no imperative to curb the habits of predatory fags and the Pope dressed like Liberace.

[edit] quote code feeks se du.

Quote from: NowhereInTime on July 08, 2014, 05:06:57 PM
This thread makes me sad.  This "fuck it all" attitude toward our home planet is disgraceful.

The General has a point.  There's no records of humans back in the Paleozoic Era bitching about CO2 levels that were far higher than now.  And just remember, back then there was FAR less forest acreage than now.  Drink up, Shriners!  Nothing to worry about!

Quote from: Stellar on July 08, 2014, 07:42:19 PM


Pope Francis, do not ask for forgiveness for the evil actions of others; therefore clean your own house and let not evil divide it.

Who is this man who speaks to the Pope as if he needed that man's advice?

Quote from: Paper*Boy on July 08, 2014, 04:38:35 PM
He said as much when proclaiming he wanted to 'fundamentally transform' the country.

Right ON, girlfriend!  Presidents should stick to fundamentally transforming OTHER countries...like Iraq.  Now, THAT is money well spent!

Quote from: Quick Karl on July 08, 2014, 07:13:26 PM
You guys really act like you're actually jealous of me.

You simply can't post without making up something about what other people think and feel, can you?  I mean, you're utterly incapable of functioning any other way, even though we've been cornholing you about it through this whole thread.

Quote from: NowhereInTime on July 08, 2014, 06:49:40 PM
Let him learn this isn't his reloading bench

I feeks it for you.