President Donald J. Trump

[Inglorious Bitch]

Inglorious Bitch, I haven't voted Democrat since 1996 and don't give two figs about the social justice movement. I hate Idiot America and its high priests.

Trump personifies willful ignorance. This guy doesn't even know what the fuck he is - he was a Manhattan Liberal in the 1980s.

Geez, I was making a joke with my "triggered". Everybody gets into such a lather on these politics threads.

[mikuthing01]

The American Interest is a quarterly that rose from opposition to Bush policy. Contributors are known for their expertise in international affairs, global strategy and military science (viz., the stuff you don't know dick about). When your droppings get published in a major periodical you will let us all know.

FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS

[Inglorious Bitch]

Well, in that case, the WH is going to be short of visitors, because very few world leaders (in the west at least) have really expressed a desire to work on an intellectual level that involves grown up things with Trump. Sure, officials from  places where he's throwing up a new glass palace are queuing up to kiss his ring, but not many. This throws up another dilemma; do they stay at Trump towers when they make a state visit, or not? If they do, they're 'great people' and get favours. If not, they're 'terrible people', and won't get a ride to the airport.

Look Yorkie, I'm not going to argue with you because I consider you a friend. A friend who is completely wrong and distorts the facts to fit his narrative. But that's OK.


FRIENDSHIP

[3OctaveFart]

Sorry Paper*Boy, the Republican Party does not show more fidelity to Jeffersonian principles.

[Inglorious Bitch]

If you want my body, and you think I'm sexy, c'mon baby let me know...

[3OctaveFart]

Geez, I was making a joke with my "triggered". Everybody gets into such a lather on these politics threads.

Well, this is serious shit. This president is going to get people killed. That's what bad presidents do.

[PB the Deplorable]

Sorry, the Republican Party does not show more fidelity to Jeffersonian principles.

But much of the base of the party does, and they even get a few elected once in awhile. 

A return to Jeffersonian Liberalism can only come through the Republican Party, it absolutely cannot come through the Democrat Party - the party who has recently admitted they no longer even bother trying to connect with middle America.

[Dr. MD MD]

The reason should be obvious: The Russians have either a mole(s), or a flaw(s) in their 'anonymous' methods. The CIA, MI5, etc would be really silly to make public who or what it is.

You never let the enemy know what you know or how you came to know it, unless its beneficial to you.

Jesus, pud! She left her homebrew server unprotected for months. That's not the Russians. She clicked on a porn link that installed malware on her server. While that may have come from Russia we could hardly say they were targeting her. If anything they got lucky and that's on her too. Podesta's password was password. Did the Russians make him do that?! He fell for a phishing scam asking him to reset his password (which was password) and he fell for it. Russia again? Enough with you jingoistic bullshit!  :

[Dr. MD MD]

Well, this is serious shit. This president is going to get people killed. That's what bad presidents do.

You're a fucking asshat!  :

[3OctaveFart]

If Jeffersonian liberalism were to take root, I believe it would have by now. Of course, Gary Johnson represents these ideals and he is mocked because he didn't know where Aleppo was (a show of hands who knew where the fuck Aleppo was, say, circa 2011).

These things are never static. If the Dems decide to lose interest in gender-neutral pronouns and get back to the people's issues, they will be back in business.

[3OctaveFart]

You're a fucking asshat!  :

I commanded you to ignore me. In fact I forbid you to read my posts.

[Kidnostad3]

The American Interest is a quarterly that rose from opposition to Bush policy.

That statement by itself convinces me of the publication's objectivity and good will towards the President Elect.  Next you'll be citing the New Republic. 

[Dr. MD MD]

I commanded you to ignore me. In fact I forbid you to read my posts.

Nope. Now I'm going to make it point of shitting on every single one. 

[Yorkshire pud]

Jesus, pud! She left her homebrew server unprotected for months. That's not the Russians. She clicked on a porn link that installed malware on her server. While that may have come from Russia we could hardly say they were targeting her. If anything they got lucky and that's on her too. Podesta's password was password. Did the Russians make him do that?! He fell for a phishing scam asking him to reset his password (which was password) and he fell for it. Russia again? Enough with you jingoistic bullshit!  :

Clinton's and Podesta's incompetence/ignorance of computers and how phishing works, doesn't make them criminals. No more so than if it happened to you. Or your house was broken into because you forgot to close a window. Do you blame the victim of a mugger?

I have recieved very convincing fake e mails from such a Paypal. And if I wasn't savvy, I'd not have known they were fake. I've had e mails that were 'friends' and later discovered it embedded a bug that inadvertently got sent to everyone in my address book. I was not popular. Neither were they when they clicked my e mail.
Scam artists know that the vast majority of the people who use the net and the www, know about enough to turn on the computer or tablet, send e mails and look up cat videos.

If anyone is responsible, its the clearly incompetent people who set up Clinton's server, without adequate (or non existent), security and firewalls. They're the ones at fault.

[Kidnostad3]

Sorry Paper*Boy, the Republican Party does not show more fidelity to Jeffersonian principles.

Well that's good enough for me!  That amounts to "are not."  Why don't you try offering a reasoned argument rather than a playground retort. 

[PB the Deplorable]

If Jeffersonian liberalism were to take root, I believe it would have by now. Of course, Gary Johnson represents these ideals and he is mocked because he didn't know where Aleppo was (a show of hands who knew where the fuck Aleppo was, say, circa 2011).

These things are never static. If the Dems decide to lose interest in gender-neutral pronouns and get back to the people's issues, they will be back in business.

I don't have much hope for either.  But only one panders to and encourages the America haters, while attacking middle America.

[3OctaveFart]

Well that's good enough for me!  That amounts to "are not."  Why don't you try offering a reasoned argument rather than a playground retort.

You seem new to Bellgab. 'Reason' is not something that prevails here.

[3OctaveFart]

I don't have much hope for either.  But only one panders to and encourages the America haters, while attacking middle America.

Obama's quiet malevolence has not been all that hidden. He hates our country. I don't believe the Clintons do.

[PB the Deplorable]

Clinton's and Podesta's incompetence/ignorance of computers and how phishing works, doesn't make them criminals...

Actually, it does. 

Mishandling classified information - including keeping it on an unauthorized, unsecure computer - is a criminal act.  The statute does not require intent - ask David Petraeus, among others.

[Kidnostad3]

Clinton's and Podesta's incompetence/ignorance of computers and how phishing works, doesn't make them criminals. No more so than if it happened to you. Or your house was broken into because you forgot to close a window. Do you blame the victim of a mugger?

I have recieved very convincing fake e mails from such a Paypal. And if I wasn't savvy, I'd not have known they were fake. I've had e mails that were 'friends' and later discovered it embedded a bug that I inadvertently got sent to everyone in my address book. I was not popular. Neither were they when they clicked my e mail.
Scam artists know that the vast majority of the people who use the net and the www, know about enough to turn on the computer or tablet, send e mails and look up cat videos.

If anyone is responsible, its the clearly incompetent people who set up Clinton's server, without adequate (or non existent), security and firewalls. They're the ones at fault.

Don't you think it's reasonable for people at that level to exercise simple due dilligence.  We're not talking about their writing lines of code here for Christ sake. You'd be on Trump like a cheap suit if he got hacked.  Your double standard knows no bounds.

[PB the Deplorable]

Obama's quiet malevolence has not been all that hidden. He hates our country. I don't believe the Clintons do.

You are correct about Obama.  But when did any of the Democrats ever disagree with him on any of it?  How about Big Media?

What about the rioters - Occupy / BLM - and the media and office holders who encouraged them?  There were plenty beyond Obama and Holder encouraging the riots in places like Ferguson and Baltimore.

It's ok for them to go along with Obama while he destroys as much as he can, but we shouldn't hold them to account for it?

[SciFiAuthor]

Well, this is serious shit. This president is going to get people killed. That's what bad presidents do.

Name a good president that didn't get anyone killed.

[Kidnostad3]

Obama's quiet malevolence has not been all that hidden. He hates our country. I don't believe the Clintons do.

Your statement is half right.  The Clinton's don't hate America.  They've gained too much from exploiting it to hate it.  It's more like they have an abiding disdain for Americans witness their candid comments revealed in Wikileaks releases and the first hand testimony of many close to them, many of whom are democrats.

[Kidnostad3]

Name a good president that didn't get anyone killed.

Millard Filmore.  Oh, you said good President didn't you.  Never mind.

[21st Century Man]

Name a good president that didn't get anyone killed.

William Henry Harrison.  Though he did get people killed when he wasn't President.

[Inglorious Bitch]

Well, this is serious shit. This president is going to get people killed. That's what bad presidents do.

Then you should be doing cartwheels on your front lawn that Trump will be the Prez. Hitlery is itching to start a war with Russia. She's itching to send other people's kids to die.

[3OctaveFart]

I left the country years ago. It is no sweat off my balls whatever the fuck he does. I'm worried for people like my mother.

[21st Century Man]

There is no such thing as a Jeffersonian liberal in the Democratic Party and there hasn't been since at least JFK.  I've  voted R since 1984 though not so proud of it as the years go by.

[Kidnostad3]

Then you should be doing cartwheels on your front lawn that Trump will be the Prez. Hitlery is itching to start a war with Russia. She's itching to send other people's kids to die.

Here, here!  Hilliary would be anxious to show the world at the first opportunity that she has a set of cojones and her tendency to go ape shit when she's vexed is legendary.  Those who fear that the next President might get their sons and daughters killed should be partying like rock stars.

[albrecht]

Clinton's and Podesta's incompetence/ignorance of computers and how phishing works, doesn't make them criminals. No more so than if it happened to you. Or your house was broken into because you forgot to close a window. Do you blame the victim of a mugger?

I have recieved very convincing fake e mails from such a Paypal. And if I wasn't savvy, I'd not have known they were fake. I've had e mails that were 'friends' and later discovered it embedded a bug that inadvertently got sent to everyone in my address book. I was not popular. Neither were they when they clicked my e mail.
Scam artists know that the vast majority of the people who use the net and the www, know about enough to turn on the computer or tablet, send e mails and look up cat videos.

If anyone is responsible, its the clearly incompetent people who set up Clinton's server, without adequate (or non existent), security and firewalls. They're the ones at fault.

There are many unanswered questions because mainly the questions weren't even asked. For one, why wasn't there any charges, reprimand, or press coverage of another aspect of Hillary's behavior. I'm pretty sure it is illegal, or at least against the rules, for government employees to use government equipment and devices to surf for porn. Even if not in the office or at work at the time (they won't say where/when she clicked on the porn link.) So why wasn't she at least in trouble for that "clicking of a porn link" that cause the phishing attack to be successful?