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I'm getting off of the Art Bell train

Started by ponyboysunset, January 15, 2016, 05:15:12 PM


ponyboysunset

Quote from: Darth Sandra on January 16, 2016, 05:03:13 PM
Stop trying to suck up to ponyboy
Maybe he likes lesbians as much as I do :)
We could just do both genders and make everyone happy!

norland2424

Quote from: Darth Sandra on January 16, 2016, 05:03:13 PM
Stop trying to suck up to ponyboy

lol i rather see sexy ladies then the dudes you post lol

Quote from: norland2424 on January 16, 2016, 05:07:30 PM
lol i rather see sexy ladies then the dudes you post lol

You love this and don't even deny it





pyewacket

Quote from: ItsOver on January 16, 2016, 04:49:44 PM
I'm not sure I like "our" closure.  It seems a little too final.

Maybe but we can exit with style....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlSQAZEp3PA


Quote from: pyewacket on January 16, 2016, 05:34:03 PM
Maybe but we can exit with style....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlSQAZEp3PA

Wonderful  idea, pye, but it would probably be prudent to hold off until we find out if MV has a Doomsday Device!


ItsOver

Quote from: pyewacket on January 16, 2016, 05:34:03 PM
Maybe but we can exit with style....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlSQAZEp3PA
Ha!  Reminds me of the MITD caller who wanted to "catch one" at ground zero.  "Yahoo!"

pyewacket

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on January 16, 2016, 05:43:02 PM
Wonderful  idea, pye, but it would probably be prudent to hold off until we find out if MV has a Doomsday Device!

Quiet you! RGG- MV's Doomsday Machine is supposed to be a secret, but on the other hand, what good is it if you don't tell anybody....  :-\

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yfXgu37iyI

pyewacket

Quote from: ItsOver on January 16, 2016, 06:03:17 PM
Ha!  Reminds me of the MITD caller who wanted to "catch one" at ground zero.  "Yahoo!"

Yeah and you wonder where they get such ideas.  ;D


Danger!UFO

Oh, it's not that bad. We'll hear from Art on Facebook and continue to listen to Heather.

Night night, all. See you on Facebook.  :)


Sean92008

Quote from: Paper*Boy on January 16, 2016, 12:32:31 PM
Why not just do your thing and ignore the negative reactions she has to it?  Why do you need her 'support' on this?

Children.



GravitySucks

Quote from: norland2424 on January 16, 2016, 06:10:44 PM
the current state of art bell fans



It's kind of ironic that his actual hanging ended up with the same result.

Robert

Quote from: albrecht on January 16, 2016, 12:21:14 PMArt should've/should just do a "Somewhere In Time" type of guest driven podcast. Almost no overhead, no complex studio, free (or near free) paypal or cc (even via an app) payment system, no handwringing about music or "audio quality", etc. If he wants calls I imagine via Skype or even just a phone could've worked ok but, frankly, callers these days are fairly lame so I would go with Art+guests.
The callers don't seem any better or worse these days than ever, & I could sure go for a pure monolog-&-interview format w no phoners-in.  Maybe that wouldn't fill 3 hrs., so a shorter time would be fine too.

When Barry Farber's program didn't put phone calls on air, I & a few other people would still phone in occasionally to correct or bring up something that would then be addressed on the air.  If it was really an important omission or correction, someone would phone in to fix it.  Then he added a phone-in segment & gushed about how much better the show had become, but it really hadn't.  Phoners-in subtract about as much as, sometimes more than, they add.  Occasionally they're terrific.

Art frequently used to fill much of C2C's 1st hour w phone-ins, sometimes striking gold but usually just in the vein of, let's get the nuts out of the way & let them vent a little.

Robert

Quote from: The King of Kings on January 16, 2016, 12:58:49 PMAs many posters have pointed out, the Paranormal well has been bled dry, hence Heidi Hollis.
No.  Fringe topics (including but not limited to the paranormal) are not plumbed dry to anywhere near the degree the usual topics of discussion are on talk radio or anywhere else.  That's why they're fringe topics.  A few fringe topics (such as UFO sightings & analysis of what they might be) are severely played out, but of others the surface has barely been scratched.  What is lacking for many of them, unfortunately, are guests who've aggregated a lot of info, which is why in some cases panel discussions would be more interesting than interviewing a single expert.  Also some topics aren't well suited to audio alone, but fortunately we now have parallel access to visuals via the Internet.

But it's hilarious to think of fringe topics as having been so bled dry as to garner no audience when one realizes the narrow subject material that gets beaten to death daily on talk radio with sizable sponsorship & audience reach.  One little news hook & it seems everyone has opinion, analysis, & background on it.

Robert

Quote from: Bounder on January 16, 2016, 01:22:06 PMI spent a week in Rachel, NV, toward the end of the 2000's.  Place is a monument to the 1990's.  Glen Campbell (the other one), Bob Lazar, old air show and gun show stickers . . . there's even a little concrete pylon ("time capsule") poured by the Independence Day crew in 1996.

It's all X-Files, TNG, giant posters of shit-hot F-117's when they were bleeding-edge.

Lost era.

Conan O'Brien said once, I think to Charlie Rose, "I'm sure the Greeks didn't know it was a golden era.  It's only after the moment has passed â€" everyone sits around and says, 'Weren't those some great pots we made?'"

The world evolved.  The slot for "slight credulity" that made not just Art's show but the entire 90's Twin Peaks zeitgeist thrive has disappeared in the present mutation.
That may have been when popularity peaked, but Ripley's Believe It Or Not, John Keel, & Fortean societies were in business before & continued afterward.  Does Art Bell have to get as much att'n as he did then, to be interesting?

Robert

Quote from: Value Of Pi on January 16, 2016, 02:04:57 PMGood producers find a way to book good guests. Heather didn't do this. As an example, I listen to John Bachelor, who has several guests per show (rarely any dealing with the paranormal). They're uniformly good interviews and he has plenty to work with.
Yes, but a lot of the reason for that is that they are several per show, and none of them has to fill much time.  The only guests he has on for long stretches are the historians.  Most of his guests are actually from a fairly small stable, and many of the most interesting segments are when he has a bunch on at a time in panel discussion format.

The booker for MITD has rather a different job.  It's very hard to tell whether a guest is going to have hours' worth of good material unless you go out to lunch w them or some such, and when you consider that the guests aren't likely to be local to either the booker or the m.c., you just can't do that.
QuoteGranted, good paranormal guests are hard to find. But given the choice of a poor paranormal guest and a good science guest, or even a guest on another subject (Art has that kind of range and people would still listen), the poor guest is a bad choice. Of course, Art did put her in that job and didn't replace her.
Are you sure that's Art's & not Keith's doing?

Can someone here tell me when Heather started doing the booking?  Was the person who did it before that anyone we'd know?

Quote from: Robert on January 17, 2016, 02:41:50 AM

Can someone here tell me when Heather started doing the booking?  Was the person who did it before that anyone we'd know?

It was Dr. J and he had been doing it for years. I think Producer Paul was doing the booking during the Sirius fling.

bellNwhistle

Quote from: Showroom Dummy on January 16, 2016, 01:11:11 PM
yes but i asked

DP  to apologize and he did  and art responded about 15 minutes later  ending that drama

The thing with apologizing, as I tell my kids, is this. If you're genuinely sorry, you say so. Then you stop doing the behavior.  You can't just continue to do what you've been doing, and then throw out an apology here and there, because then your "sorry" becomes meaningless. In the case of DP, that's exactly what has happened.  He didn't end any drama. DP started it, said he was sorry he brought it up, but has been posting about the same damn thing, on a loop.


Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on January 17, 2016, 03:08:22 AM
It was Dr. J and he had been doing it for years. I think Producer Paul was doing the booking during the Sirius fling.

I heard a few DR J shows and he always seemed to have interesting guests, unlike Art.  Wonder if he was getting the leftovers?

GravitySucks

Quote from: Emergency Bacon on January 17, 2016, 09:33:52 AM
I heard a few DR J shows and he always seemed to have interesting guests, unlike Art.  Wonder if he was getting the leftovers?

When MITD first started up, it seemed to me that most of the guests that Dr. J booked were ones that he had already interviewed.

Well, good to bring the good guests back.

DR J has a pretty abrasive voice but I actually like his interviewing style for some reason, and the subject matter he covers.  His show seems more Art than Art.  He has the passion for the subject that Art seems to have lost.  I guess it's inevitable for stuff to get played out after doing it so long.

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