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Started by Art_s Farts, December 19, 2015, 07:11:36 PM

Quote from: onan on December 21, 2015, 04:44:08 PM
Maybe that is how he handles it.

Yes he did. I don't blame him, but I wouldn't call his posts (after he quit  MITD) rational, or-"smart." Were people dicks? Sure. Does that automatically discredit their opinion? No. Instead, he wanted to argue semantics about him retiring/quitting. Then, he wanted to guilt trip us with his overdramatic quitting of BellGab. Meh. Like me, he's a grown man reading words from a screen. The difference? He's a quitter...

-You da man, Art!

Ciardelo

Quote from: rekcuf on December 21, 2015, 05:30:38 PM
Yes he did. I don't blame him, but I wouldn't call his posts (after he quit  MITD) rational, or-"smart." Were people dicks? Sure. Does that automatically discredit their opinion? No. Instead, he wanted to argue semantics about him retiring/quitting. Then, he wanted to guilt trip us with his overdramatic quitting of BellGab. Meh. Like me, he's a grown man reading words from a screen. The difference? He's a quitter...

-You da man, Art!
he did not quit--he's just doing it somewhere else now.

Quote from: Ciardelo on December 21, 2015, 05:31:42 PM
he did not quit--he's just doing it somewhere else now.

I stand corrected. Thank you, Ciardelo.  :)

Robert

Quote from: anunnaki on December 21, 2015, 10:37:33 AMCould be to CYA so as to legitimize the Bogus Story a la OJ Simpson.
OJ Simpson is shooting at Art Bell?!  The Chicago Young Americans are shooting at Art Bell?

sampson2625

Quote from: ponyboysunset on December 21, 2015, 11:06:50 AM
IB made it, I just stole it and decided to use it. And being gay myself it was just an added bonus. Heh.

Hahah that is a great avatar. I almost did a spit take when i read it.

sampson2625

Quote from: paladin1991 on December 21, 2015, 01:17:00 PM
Wait.  You're gay?  I thought we were Lesbians.  Not cool kid, switching sides like that.  How can I quit you?

Stay golden paladin.

paladin1991

Quote from: rekcuf on December 21, 2015, 04:42:46 PM
If he hadn't posted an hour before saying: "he could handle it."
Yeah.  That.  That is what is puzzling to me.  Alpha Male talk and Beta male walk.  I was truly stunned.

Wintermute

Quote from: CRM 114 on December 21, 2015, 05:13:59 PM
I am a public figure in my field , and have been one for nearly 30 years and there are some basic guidelines one must follow to remain sane and not damage your career:

1. Never mix your personal life with your public life. EVER.

2. Craft the public persona and be consistent with it always.

3. Never go negative. Problems can always become solutions ...'spin'

4. Realize that the fans come first whenever you are in the public role. No fans. unhappy fans...no career..no money.

5. leave the public persona at the door when you go home.

Art Bell, while being a true artist and genius has consistently violated these rules. It's unfortunate because he is a unique performer unlikely to be matched again.

The great tragedy is he was on the cusp of being a complete Auteur in his field of artistry. Historical, a role model for future entertainment of this type...something not seen since the days of Chaplin or perhaps Kubrick..Wagner.. an iconoclast that took on the system and created one of his own and beat the Man...to me that is the saddest result.

Probably the best post ever on this BBS regarding Art Bell's self-inflicted drama over time. Major props man.

ponyboysunset

Quote from: Barfly on December 21, 2015, 03:02:32 PM
tnx, i thought you where getting sleeved?
work in progress?
Half sleeve. The Fox. Part two of that in a few weeks.

Dateline

Art, we know you are still reading somewhere, sometime since you pulled your social media and are acting like an ostrich.  One with your head in the desert sand and the tail feathers blowing in the winds.

I think this person was a loosely hired gun, associated with one of the competitors.  I have heard stories at conferences that fans have been roughed up and harassed by those people.  If they will do that to a fan, then what will they do to someone who threatens market share?

Turning tail and running is not the answer.  Confronting it, by returning to the mike is the way to do it.  Take off the drama queen crown, and put on the King Of Late Night Talk radio crown, you own and deserve.  We all want it.  You need it.  They can stuff it.

Ciardelo

Quote from: Dateline on December 22, 2015, 10:05:07 AM
Art, we know you are still reading somewhere, sometime since you pulled your social media and are acting like an ostrich.  One with your head in the desert sand and the tail feathers blowing in the winds.

I think this person was a loosely hired gun, associated with one of the competitors.  I have heard stories at conferences that fans have been roughed up and harassed by those people.  If they will do that to a fan, then what will they do to someone who threatens market share?

Turning tail and running is not the answer.  Confronting it, by returning to the mike is the way to do it.  Take off the drama queen crown, and put on the King Of Late Night Talk radio crown, you own and deserve.  We all want it.  You need it.  They can stuff it.
art@artbell.com

b_dubb

BellGab - Earth's Foremost Authorities On Everything Conveniently Lumped Together On One Site

Barfly

Quote from: b_dubb on December 22, 2015, 11:27:31 AM
BellGab - Earth's Foremost Authorities On Everything Conveniently Lumped Together On One Site
It baffles me that people think these broadcasts are the meaning of life, WTF is wrong with people?
If i never heard another broadcast or DMDN shuts down who cares really?
The net is full of other broadcasts and FFS do something "Analog" go DO something outside.

BobGrau

Quote from: b_dubb on December 22, 2015, 11:27:31 AM
BellGab - Earth's Foremost Authorities On Everything Conveniently Lumped Together On One Site

Yet all they do is lurk, and take notes.

Claudius

Quote from: Barfly on December 22, 2015, 11:52:53 AM
It baffles me that people think these broadcasts are the meaning of life, WTF is wrong with people?
If i never heard another broadcast or DMDN shuts down who cares really?
The net is full of other broadcasts and FFS do something "Analog" go DO something outside.
Thank (your deity of choice or lack thereof)! I'm sorry but I primarily come to this forum for a good laugh anymore. It's a bit pathetic how so many of you act as though life is coming to an end over the antics of a 70 year old drama queen. And so many of you slavishly support him no matter how insane this has all become, don't you see how petty and sad you all look?

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: CRM 114 on December 21, 2015, 05:13:59 PM
I am a public figure in my field , and have been one for nearly 30 years and there are some basic guidelines one must follow to remain sane and not damage your career:

1. Never mix your personal life with your public life. EVER.

2. Craft the public persona and be consistent with it always.

3. Never go negative. Problems can always become solutions ...'spin'

4. Realize that the fans come first whenever you are in the public role. No fans. unhappy fans...no career..no money.

5. leave the public persona at the door when you go home.

Art Bell, while being a true artist and genius has consistently violated these rules. It's unfortunate because he is a unique performer unlikely to be matched again.

The great tragedy is he was on the cusp of being a complete Auteur in his field of artistry. Historical, a role model for future entertainment of this type...something not seen since the days of Chaplin or perhaps Kubrick..Wagner.. an iconoclast that took on the system and created one of his own and beat the Man...to me that is the saddest result.

A truly magnificent post. +1000.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Claudius on December 22, 2015, 05:20:51 PM
Thank (your deity of choice or lack thereof)! I'm sorry but I primarily come to this forum for a good laugh anymore. It's a bit pathetic how so many of you act as though life is coming to an end over the antics of a 70 year old drama queen. And so many of you slavishly support him no matter how insane this has all become, don't you see how petty and sad you all look?

If you're going to psychoanalyze us we're going to need to see some credentials first. Also, I'm going to need drugs.

Quote from: paladin1991 on December 22, 2015, 02:21:08 AM
  Yeah.  That.  That is what is puzzling to me.  Alpha Male talk and Beta male walk.  I was truly stunned.

I'm not worried about it anymore. Family and holiday's now. Much drinking to be done.  :)

Q-Pi

Quote from: Barfly on December 22, 2015, 11:52:53 AM
It baffles me that people think these broadcasts are the meaning of life, WTF is wrong with people?

You really are barfly!

"we are here to laugh at the odds and live our lives so well that death will tremble to take us." ~ buk

That said, it's 11 degrees outside. Time to forego healthy analog pursuits for warm and cozy digital glow.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Q-Pi on December 22, 2015, 05:42:16 PM
You really are barfly!

"we are here to laugh at the odds and live our lives so well that death will tremble to take us." ~ buk

That said, it's 11 degrees outside. Time to forego healthy analog pursuits for warm and cozy digital glow.

Wimp


CRM 114


I suppose I should have also added to my list of rules "Develop a very thick skin". If a public person engages with trolls, detractors ( or in this case a "stalker") at ANY LEVEL PUBLICLY all he or she is doing is legitimizing them...and I can tell you from direct experience for many years in a field where your every move is open to public judgement and critique, doing so only leads in one direction...an unfortunate one. Each time you engage or acknowledge you weaken your image and position.

ponyboysunset

Quote from: CRM 114 on December 22, 2015, 06:36:44 PM
I suppose I should have also added to my list of rules "Develop a very thick skin". If a public person engages with trolls, detractors ( or in this case a "stalker") at ANY LEVEL PUBLICLY all he or she is doing is legitimizing them...and I can tell you from direct experience for many years in a field where your every move is open to public judgement and critique, doing so only leads in one direction...an unfortunate one. Each time you engage or acknowledge you weaken your image and position.
You aren't a radio host are you? Your words read so very familiar. I mean that in the highest form of a compliment. I will leave my secret decoder ring activated. Lol. In other words you remind me of someone.

Night Train

Quote from: Dateline on December 22, 2015, 10:05:07 AM
Art, we know you are still reading somewhere, sometime since you pulled your social media and are acting like an ostrich.  One with your head in the desert sand and the tail feathers blowing in the winds.

I think this person was a loosely hired gun, associated with one of the competitors.  I have heard stories at conferences that fans have been roughed up and harassed by those people.*  If they will do that to a fan, then what will they do to someone who threatens market share?

Turning tail and running is not the answer.  Confronting it, by returning to the mike is the way to do it.  Take off the drama queen crown, and put on the King Of Late Night Talk radio crown, you own and deserve.  We all want it.  You need it.  They can stuff it.

Dude, there was no stalker.  There were no death threats.  There were no gunshots.  And Premiere isn't in the business of hiring people to threaten their competition.  And in Art's case, even if they did operate that way, it wouldn't be necessary, as everyone knew that he wouldn't last six months without quitting.

Here's the most likely scenario:

His young wife told him he had to choose between the radio show, or her and their daughter.  He chose the latter.   She'd been telling him that for months, and he'd been promising to phase Heather Wade in, but never got around to it.  And that's why he started telling these tall tales a while back.  He knew the day was coming when he would once again be quitting and would need a story to generate sympathy, preferably one that he had been been spinning for a while.

Then, when when he picked up affiliates in LA and Dallas, his wife got panicky.  Against all odds, after nearly two decades of Art being the most notorious flake in radio, two of the biggest stations in two of America's biggest cities had picked up the show.  Art was talking about how this thing was gonna be huge, and he was gonna teach Noory a lesson.  She realized that if he didn't quit right now, it could be two or three months before he quit.  So she said it's now or never.  Choose tonight - your show or your family.  That's why it happened so abruptly, and just after signing up these two huge affiliates.

(*Also, those conferences where some of your friends have gotten "roughed up"?  Those aren't UFO conferences, no matter what your friends tell you. They're S&M conferences.)

Jackstar

Interesting theory, but only their handlers know for sure.

Barfly

Quote from: Night Train on December 22, 2015, 07:48:14 PM
Dude, there was no stalker.  There were no death threats.  There was no prowler. 

His young wife told him he had to choose between the radio show, or her and their daughter.  He chose the latter.   She'd been telling him that for months, and he'd been promising to phase Heather Wade in, but never got around to it. 

Then, when when he picked up affiliates in LA and Dallas, she said it's now or never.  That's why it happened so abruptly, and just after signing up these two huge affiliates.
With all this knowlage you should file a report with the police, false reports have severe penalties, you can get Art in jail quickly.
Are you the new Colombo? I really liked Peter Falk in that show.
Another thing you should think about is false accusations posted on the internet, its a law now in case you don't know, so if YOU sir accuse someone YOU sir can be thrown in jail.
Think about it, YOU are not anonymous here.
Maybe Art will sue you for defamation and false accusations, but why would he? You seem to be a penniless troll that has no life.
BUT, since you seem to be so sure of these FACTS you posted on a PUBLIC forum you will make headlines for solving this case.
Perhaps you are not familiar with this law, keep posting, you will soon find out.

Night Train

Quote from: Barfly on December 22, 2015, 08:06:50 PM
With all this knowlage you should file a report with the police, false reports have severe penalties, you can get Art in jail quickly.
Are you the new Colombo? I really liked Peter Falk in that show.
Another thing you should think about is false accusations posted on the internet, its a law now in case you don't know, so if YOU sir accuse someone YOU sir can be thrown in jail.
Think about it, YOU are not anonymous here.
Maybe Art will sue you for defamation and false accusations, but why would he? You seem to be a penniless troll that has no life.
BUT, since you seem to be so sure of these FACTS you posted on a PUBLIC forum you will make headlines for solving this case.
Perhaps you are not familiar with this law, keep posting, you will soon find out.

Art's going to sue me? 

Because I don't believe there was any shooter, or any death threat?

That'll be the day. 

Because then he would have to prove that these things actually happened, instead of just claiming they happened.

He won't even file an official report about the telephoned death threat against his family. 

Some guy's shooting up your place on a regular basis, you get a call one night saying he's gonna slaughter your entire family, and you decline to file an official police report about the call?

Is there anything you won't believe?

If Art did approach any lawyer with his claims, and wanted to sue somebody for mocking those claims?  Any lawyer who, after hearing Art's tales and history, didn't sit him down and tell him "Look, you need to forget all about suing because your story is simply not credible" should be immediately disbarred.

Have another beer, Otis.

Jackstar

Quote from: The Coincidence Kid on December 21, 2015, 01:05:41 PM
Good for him. What an ugly place this has become.

It was fine when I left it. What did you people allow to happen?

coaster

Quote from: Barfly on December 22, 2015, 11:52:53 AM
do something "Analog" go DO something outside.
you know, there are a lot of things said here that are instantly quotable, but this one.. this is definitely top right material. afuckingmen.

Jackstar

Why can't more people choose an hiatus option?

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