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Art Bell cancels show for good

Started by Auslandia, December 11, 2015, 04:36:47 PM

Kolchak

Quote from: Imconfused on December 14, 2015, 08:05:53 AM
However this whole Art's stalker thing is so cheesy that only the Green Bay Packers would buy it.

As a Wisconsinite, this is highly offensive.

csummers

 When this latest show was announced I remember someone in a thread making a post predicting this happening.

Their theory was somewhere along the lines that with every return art makes he gets pumped up and excited about returning and loves the drama of sharing hints and ideas as the show builds up momentum for an eventual start date. He announces it falls through, its back up, its twisting in the wind, a new solution has been found, theres no way we can do it, its not manageable,  wait, we figured it out, the show will go on.........spread the word, call affiliates, subscribe today, report the pirates.........etc etc.

He forgets one thing, once he is back there night after night doing the show, its not long before he remembers it really dragged him down over time and affected everything around him. Then one day for some reason whatever drama is happening that particular day and has built up boils over and he abruptly quits.

Then he slowly starts it all over again with little hints of a possible comeback. He misses it and wants to come back because he misses the excitement of it all and slowly starts to want it all over again, forgetting the negatives it caused him. Like taking back an old girlfriend, remembering all the great times and forgetting all the bad times until you are back with her and realize that you cant handle it for long..

It might be true, he loves every part of the show except doing it for long periods of time and at his age it probably takes more of a toll than it ever did before. When he is planning it and putting it together he is loving it, building studios, finding partners, planning formats and all that jazz. He forgets in all that excitement that once back behind the mic every night its gonna be the same it always was and he will look for an out. Doesnt mean to say he is making the story up, but its something he can grab and pull the chute with that explains leaving.

JamesMcDonald

Quote from: Kongfish on December 14, 2015, 04:43:27 AM

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Might be wrong but...

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No, you got it there.  You're wrong.

Quote from: BettyO417 on December 14, 2015, 08:56:56 AM
In my humble opinion, I believe the pressure was on Art from his girls. Early on Art would drop hints about how his girls missed him and were sacrificing to allowed him to live his passion. Right then I knew it's over before he got started...

I thought exactly the same thing.  His current story is BS (imo).


Quote from: BettyO417 on December 14, 2015, 08:56:56 AM
... I'm sure the pressure from the girls was intense

... At this point I've lost the desire and hope that the Ride would ever happen again.

... he chose to bail AGAIN without even trying to get help

Yup, yup, yup. 

I guess I gave up on Art after Dark Matter.  I was happy about MITD and looked forward to it.  I meant to turn it on but just never did and finally canceled my subscription.



RickySsan

Quote from: sampson2625 on December 14, 2015, 09:11:13 AM
Oh man, great post on MITD fan group on fb - I laughed, but she is right - Where are all the remote viewers at?

"Hello, I am from the generation that remembers the war in Vietnam. I am from the Grassy Knoll era. I am a huge fan of ART BELL! I have been taking that ride with ART for many years. I wondered if Art Bell has called for help from his resources. I wish Art would ask all his fans to pray for safety for his family ie Psychokinesis. Art should contact his resources with in the Alphabet soup groups ie ATF. Where are the Remote Viewers, the good witches, the psychic mediums and the Time Travelers to help Art Bell? Where are the Fox Mulders and Dana Scullys? Any "The Lone Gunman" around? Why is the leaving of ART BELL the only solution? "

Surely Ed Dames can remote view Arts assailant and solve this mystery!

maybe it's Ed thats stalking Art?! (just throwing it out there)

Quote from: csummers on December 14, 2015, 10:29:51 AM
When this latest show was announced I remember someone in a thread making a post predicting this happening.

Their theory was somewhere along the lines that with every return art makes he gets pumped up and excited about returning and loves the drama of sharing hints and ideas as the show builds up momentum for an eventual start date. He announces it falls through, its back up, its twisting in the wind, a new solution has been found, theres no way we can do it, its not manageable,  wait, we figured it out, the show will go on.........spread the word, call affiliates, subscribe today, report the pirates.........etc etc.

He forgets one thing, once he is back there night after night doing the show, its not long before he remembers it really dragged him down over time and affected everything around him. Then one day for some reason whatever drama is happening that particular day and has built up boils over and he abruptly quits.

Then he slowly starts it all over again with little hints of a possible comeback. He misses it and wants to come back because he misses the excitement of it all and slowly starts to want it all over again, forgetting the negatives it caused him. Like taking back an old girlfriend, remembering all the great times and forgetting all the bad times until you are back with her and realize that you cant handle it for long..

It might be true, he loves every part of the show except doing it for long periods of time and at his age it probably takes more of a toll than it ever did before. When he is planning it and putting it together he is loving it, building studios, finding partners, planning formats and all that jazz. He forgets in all that excitement that once back behind the mic every night its gonna be the same it always was and he will look for an out. Doesnt mean to say he is making the story up, but its something he can grab and pull the chute with that explains leaving.

This is my view also. 

Why he couldn't have just done the show once or twice a week, or even just when he was in the mood is beyond me.  Maybe that was his idea when he announced (Redacted) as his co-host originally, or maybe that's what he plans to do now with his comments about coming back to do a show once in awhile.

There is one problem with that though.  Doing a show 5 days a week, all topics are covered because there aren't enough good guests to even fill that and every stone is turned over looking for them.  Art, or anyone, only doing the occasional show means they are going to focus on the few topics that interest them the most.  When Art was doing monthly and occasional shows as a fill in from the Philippines I noticed he was only doing shows on certain topics, the sort I wasn't interested in, but obviously interested him.  The show with Starfire Tor was the last one of those I listened to, I finally just stopped.

Just Me

Yo pimps, you can stop pimpin your savior Art Bell now that he's fooled you into not seeing his leaving out the back door. The dark matter network empire has fallen. Chaos reigns as the minions weep NOOOOOO. Investments crash, children cry, Bell legions beg their gods to stop this madness.

It's over and all that's left is the weeping and disbelief.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3myI0IJmTlQ





anunnaki

Quote from: bellNwhistle on December 11, 2015, 08:30:00 PM
GMAFB.. what are you suggesting, exactly?   ??? 

I don't believe for one second that he did anything to Romona, and while he may have remarried quickly, he's been with his current wife for a while now.. I dare say longer than most people are married for these days.

Bell served in the U.S. Air Force as a medic during the Vietnam War and in his free time operated a pirate radio station at Amarillo Air Force Base. He would make a point of playing anti-war music (like "Eve of Destruction" and "Fortunate Son") that was not aired on the American Forces Network.

This wife Ramona died from an "Asthmatic Attack", and the former "medic" couldn't help her.
Then, Off to the Philippines for the newer model !

widethoughts

It takes character to know character.

hitfan

Quote from: csummers on December 14, 2015, 10:29:51 AM
When this latest show was announced I remember someone in a thread making a post predicting this happening.

Their theory was somewhere along the lines that with every return art makes he gets pumped up and excited about returning and loves the drama of sharing hints and ideas as the show builds up momentum for an eventual start date. He announces it falls through, its back up, its twisting in the wind, a new solution has been found, theres no way we can do it, its not manageable,  wait, we figured it out, the show will go on.........spread the word, call affiliates, subscribe today, report the pirates.........etc etc.

He forgets one thing, once he is back there night after night doing the show, its not long before he remembers it really dragged him down over time and affected everything around him. Then one day for some reason whatever drama is happening that particular day and has built up boils over and he abruptly quits.

Then he slowly starts it all over again with little hints of a possible comeback. He misses it and wants to come back because he misses the excitement of it all and slowly starts to want it all over again, forgetting the negatives it caused him. Like taking back an old girlfriend, remembering all the great times and forgetting all the bad times until you are back with her and realize that you cant handle it for long..

It might be true, he loves every part of the show except doing it for long periods of time and at his age it probably takes more of a toll than it ever did before. When he is planning it and putting it together he is loving it, building studios, finding partners, planning formats and all that jazz. He forgets in all that excitement that once back behind the mic every night its gonna be the same it always was and he will look for an out. Doesnt mean to say he is making the story up, but its something he can grab and pull the chute with that explains leaving.

Art Bell has a previous history of abruptly quitting his show many times in the past.  Whether it's a personal crisis, desire for retirement or issues with the corporate heads screwing him, to long time listeners of the show, Art quitting is par for the course.

I'll just say this: while it is bad that his family is being stalked, he could have taken a temporary leave of absence (and make short appearances while Redacted hosts the show) until all of this was sorted out.  He has worked for 2 years creating and launching MITD.  Is it really worth it to just throw it all away?

I don't think any radio affiliates would ever go back with Art Bell considering all the history with him.

I really think that his heart is not in it anymore.  The stalker thing was basically an out that he could use to make his exit.  I think it would have been better for Art Bell to just say that he wanted to retire.

Well, I am surprised that MITD lasted as long as it did to be honest.  I had a lot of fun listening to the new episodes.  I'm still a fan nonetheless.

hitfan

Quote from: anunnaki on December 14, 2015, 12:24:26 PM
Bell served in the U.S. Air Force as a medic during the Vietnam War and in his free time operated a pirate radio station at Amarillo Air Force Base. He would make a point of playing anti-war music (like "Eve of Destruction" and "Fortunate Son") that was not aired on the American Forces Network.

This wife Ramona died from an "Asthmatic Attack", and the former "medic" couldn't help her.
Then, Off to the Philippines for the newer model !

As a widower, I take exception to this.  When you are married for so such a long time, having your wife die suddenly creates a huge void.  We all grieve differently.

It's absolute bullshit and I am done with it!!! Not even the courtesy to give his fans a farewell show. Like school on Sunday...no class! We at the very least deserve a final show. Get Wackenhut there or just hire some goons for security. Then bust off a three or four hour show. Hour one: Final remarks on paranormal. Hour two: closing remarks on Area 51 and the Alien conspiracy. Then one final hour of open lines! It sucks that someone is doing this to him and his family it really does. If he can't get security and won't do a show someplace else then it is time to stop for the safety of the family...even if I do question the authenticity...at least show a little respect to the fans and have one last night

stitchpuller

And just a thought. if  the situation is genuine, and as bad as is alluded to, then to just say "hey guys, no problem! i'll be back soon as i get this bug swept under the rug. but in the meantime, here's my fill-in" is dangerous.
IF its real and IF someone needs to be snared, what was done IS the right way to do it.
however , coming back and saying you never meant to go away forever, IF the situation is as bad as it COULD be, then that would cause the said stalker to be MORE dangerous.

seriously odd, as everyone has said, all the support, going terrestrial again, all the build up.

unless, as i said... he DID seem so sad noone bought that he was eating a lightbulb. this WOULD be the ultimate hungary bulb, and we ALL bought it.


Maybe...he did eat the light bulb.... 8)

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: stitchpuller on December 14, 2015, 02:27:17 PM
And just a thought. if  the situation is genuine, and as bad as is alluded to, then to just say "hey guys, no problem! i'll be back soon as i get this bug swept under the rug. but in the meantime, here's my fill-in" is dangerous.
IF its real and IF someone needs to be snared, what was done IS the right way to do it.
however , coming back and saying you never meant to go away forever, IF the situation is as bad as it COULD be, then that would cause the said stalker to be MORE dangerous.

seriously odd, as everyone has said, all the support, going terrestrial again, all the build up.

unless, as i said... he DID seem so sad noone bought that he was eating a lightbulb. this WOULD be the ultimate hungary bulb, and we ALL bought it.


Speak for yourself. I and several others didn't.

widethoughts

Quote from: hitfan on December 14, 2015, 01:33:54 PM
As a widower, I take exception to this.  When you are married for so such a long time, having your wife die suddenly creates a huge void.  We all grieve differently.

I agree.  I support all Art represents.

Kolchak

Quote from: stitchpuller on December 14, 2015, 02:27:17 PM
IF its real and IF someone needs to be snared, what was done IS the right way to do it.

I still don't get how not doing a radio show would stop any stalker from prowling the property.

Albemuth

Just one question:  has anyone broken this news to der Fuhrer yet?

stitchpuller

Quote from: Kolchak on December 14, 2015, 02:43:24 PM
I still don't get how not doing a radio show would stop any stalker from prowling the property.

It wouldn't, and won't. It would give him some time to get out of dodge, and relocate, let the stalker THINK he won, and go back to an empty place that is now patrolled.  And sadly, in today's world i agree with your question, even if he ...got out of dodge. How long before the stalker found you again?.... even if this is a bad, bad joke, the results are...rather catastrophic.

Kolchak

Quote from: stitchpuller on December 14, 2015, 03:02:33 PM
It wouldn't, and won't. It would give him some time to get out of dodge, and relocate, let the stalker THINK he won, and go back to an empty place that is now patrolled.  And sadly, in today's world i agree with your question, even if he ...got out of dodge. How long before the stalker found you again?.... even if this is a bad, bad joke, the results are...rather catastrophic.

That may be the plan, but if it is there's been no indication of it. Everything I've seen seems to imply that stopping the broadcast (and presumably remaining in the house) will solve everything.

stitchpuller

Quote from: Kolchak on December 14, 2015, 03:07:52 PM
That may be the plan, but if it is there's been no indication of it. Everything I've seen seems to imply that stopping the broadcast (and presumably remaining in the house) will solve everything.

agreed, and this is where my worry and horror at all this creeps in. if Bell thinks just stopping, and laying low will fix it -IF it's happening, is fucking terrifying. I keep clinging to the hope it's a bad joke, and not the reality of some 70+ year old thinking it'll just end if he does as asked, and then just waltz back after the clouds disperse and all will be well... This is all so baffling.

Quote from: BettyO417 on December 14, 2015, 08:56:56 AM
In my humble opinion, I believe the pressure was on Art from his girls. Early on Art would drop hints about how his girls missed him and were sacrificing to allowed him to live his passion. Right then I knew it's over before he got started. I'm sure the pressure from the girls was intense! As a woman I must admit if I want my way I have the ability to persuade my other half. If we think about the former years, Ramona Bell was the one who scheduled guests and the PowerHouse behind Art. Ramona was as passionate about radio if not more than Art! Ramona was the one that wanted and birthed KNYE. It died when we Iost Ramona. At this point I've lost the desire and hope that the Ride would ever happen again. Airyn just isn't invested with us because she never knew or experienced the depth of the Ride. I realize at all cost the family should be protected, but as some on TheGab said there's enough fans with incredible talents that Art could have called on to solve this mystery and keep them safe. But he chose to bail AGAIN without even trying to get help. The amount of work to pull off the show was not worth it to him, obviously. I'm sure though Heather busted her ass and did all she could to lighten the load. Maybe Art should pull some strings to help her recoup all she's given up as in a JOB. I've decided to stay a Time Traveler only to support Keith and hopeful he can continue to grow Dark Matter.
Keith I can't even imagine the rollarcoaster you've been on. Thank you Sir for all your years of loyalty and trying to save the network. I'm sorry to say and with much respect that Heather just doesn't do it for me. Sorry Heather. Personally Keith I wish you'd hand it over to Bill Barnes in Art's time slot followed by Steve Warner followed by Howard Hughes. This group of Men should certainly boost DMDR. We can't count on Art, he's stepped in it and frankly has lost credibility again. If Art doesn't get behind that mic tonight he will never be able to save face if he can again. He could have taken a leave of absence until this blew over. Art could have handed the reins over to an experienced paranormal investigator.
Many thanks to MV,Jaz, Nancy Barnes and all who have TIRELESSLY given and given to pave the way for Art to return. So sorry that it was for nothing. My thoughts on the change for this site name is "TheGab".  Sending love and light to all.

Fantastic!  I think you sum it up well.  Apparently, Ramona was the brains and sweat of the old show and Art was just the voice and on-air personality.  For every hour of enjoyment we had with Art, Ramona put in hours of thankless labor.  I would like to thank Ramona now in memory for her contribution.  I agree that I love Nancy & Bill Birnes and hope we can still get Future Theater and maybe they could do MITD at least on occasion.

Tarbaby

Quote from: Kolchak on December 14, 2015, 02:43:24 PM
I still don't get how not doing a radio show would stop any stalker from prowling the property.
not only that but what I've been puzzling over is why would the stalker asshole want Art to quit the show. Of all the Things to stalk someone over why is it important that Art quits the show. It seems to point to that miffed announcer but if not him then who and why?  At least with him the motive and the demands make sense. Otherwise it's a really bazaar demand. I also have a weird hunch  Art knows more about the stalker's motive then he (Art)  oranyone has said yet.

Wintermute

I, like many others, had a good idea that this kind of thing would happen. Pretty sure I posted it on here. In fact this is the reason why no local AM stations picked the show up and it was only a small town AM that did. And I'd bet other station managers felt the same way.

The real issue is more a long the lines of what others are saying:
** Pressure from the wife and kids (hey, do the show earlier or pre-record it like everything on NPR).
** Money... not enough? I have a hard time believing MiTD is a loser, but maybe the "Dark Matter Network" is the boat anchor.
** The grind of having to produce four shows a week. It's not easy and Art was getting back into the swing of things.
** Passion; I doubted he had it to product the show more than a few months.

I can tell you this, my wife and family have never pressured me to not pursue an interest / passion / revenue stream. They have always been supportive even if it meant late nights, time away and going to scary places. We talk and make some agreements, and then go for it. So I can't empathize at all if it is a family thing. Not one bit. Maybe I'm just lucky that way, but I don't think I am. I think people that want to do something figure out a way to do it. People that do not want to do something create a way out.

Many of us, either as hobbyists, or those of us that have worked or do work in broadcasting, know that there is more than one way to skin a cat. That a "studio" and really high end codec's are not required. And that a good show can and regularly is done at remote locations with less than idea equipment and services. Some of the best radio content produced today isn't live. It's the on air talent that makes the show work. It's the "want to do" that gets things accomplished.

Sad part is that Art's fan base really stepped up, more than any other radio personality that I can remember. They offered actual help, bandwidth, editing services, equipment, production assistance (which is where Heather came from). And even with all that ACTION (rather than talk), they couldn't keep Art Bell on the air. I feel bad for all. It's an example of the best and worst of "grass-roots" action. Frequently, and in this case, the fans wanted it far more than the host.


Quote from: Wintermute on December 14, 2015, 03:50:48 PM
I, like many others, had a good idea that this kind of thing would happen. Pretty sure I posted it on here. In fact this is the reason why no local AM stations picked the show up and it was only a small town AM that did. And I'd bet other station managers felt the same way.

The real issue is more a long the lines of what others are saying:
** Pressure from the wife and kids (hey, do the show earlier or pre-record it like everything on NPR).
** Money... not enough? I have a hard time believing MiTD is a loser, but maybe the "Dark Matter Network" is the boat anchor.
** The grind of having to produce four shows a week. It's not easy and Art was getting back into the swing of things.
** Passion; I doubted he had it to product the show more than a few months.

I can tell you this, my wife and family have never pressured me to not pursue an interest / passion / revenue stream. They have always been supportive even if it meant late nights, time away and going to scary places. We talk and make some agreements, and then go for it. So I can't empathize at all if it is a family thing. Not one bit. Maybe I'm just lucky that way, but I don't think I am. I think people that want to do something figure out a way to do it. People that do not want to do something create a way out.

Many of us, either as hobbyists, or those of us that have worked or do work in broadcasting, know that there is more than one way to skin a cat. That a "studio" and really high end codec's are not required. And that a good show can and regularly is done at remote locations with less than idea equipment and services. Some of the best radio content produced today isn't live. It's the on air talent that makes the show work. It's the "want to do" that gets things accomplished.

Sad part is that Art's fan base really stepped up, more than any other radio personality that I can remember. They offered actual help, bandwidth, editing services, equipment, production assistance (which is where Heather came from). And even with all that ACTION (rather than talk), they couldn't keep Art Bell on the air. I feel bad for all. It's an example of the best and worst of "grass-roots" action. Frequently, and in this case, the fans wanted it far more than the host.

Very well put. As far as his family's safety goes, no one wants to see them or Art get hurt. That's why the prudent thing of Art to do was to get them out of harm's way and also himself. There were a few solutions to this horrible situation, the last one should have been the nuclear option, but it was the first one used. Among other solutions, a two to three month trip to the Philippines would have been perfect. His wife is a teacher, so homeschooling Asia would not have been an issue. It would also have given Art and DMDN time to figure things out. With the AB's safely ensconced in their Philippines apartment:

Family safe. Check.
Art safe. Check.
All the hard work done by so many for over 2 plus years not thrown away on a whim. Check.
No legal fallout for anyone. Check.
Paychecks of those involved with DMDN safe. Check.


Where there is a will, there is a way. Where there is no will, well...

Theodora



Quote from: Wintermute on December 14, 2015, 03:50:48 PM
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The real issue is more a long the lines of what others are saying:
** Pressure from the wife and kids (hey, do the show earlier or pre-record it like everything on NPR).
** Money... not enough? I have a hard time believing MiTD is a loser, but maybe the "Dark Matter Network" is the boat anchor.
** The grind of having to produce four shows a week. It's not easy and Art was getting back into the swing of things.
** Passion; I doubted he had it to product the show more than a few months.

Sad part is that Art's fan base really stepped up, more than any other radio personality that I can remember. They offered actual help, bandwidth, editing services, equipment, production assistance (which is where Heather came from). And even with all that ACTION (rather than talk), they couldn't keep Art Bell on the air. I feel bad for all. It's an example of the best and worst of "grass-roots" action. Frequently, and in this case, the fans wanted it far more than the host.



I find the whole thing outrageous. Yes, on one hand -its a radio program; poop happens, move on. Wish Art and his family well, thanks for the memories (again) and Merry Christmas.

This was the show he wanted and everyone wanted for him. He worked and waited so long to get back on and many, many people supported him. We loved that show and waited a long time for its return in its purest form. It was great!! It was moving and I believe he can't handle the momentum. He clearly has some issues related to ego and taking on too much and not dealing with the grind of the work. He has a daughter who is eight and a young wife from another country who must feel isolated and annoyed he is up all night and sleeping much of the day. His daughter must have practices, plays and recitals that he misses through the week and his wife is likely putting her to bed alone.  Then there is his back. The security issue whether real or imagined is added stress and the exit strategy was impulsive. He should have met with producers and DMNR and talked this through early on.

Yes, this is the scariest-"dead air"...yada.yada..maybe he had plans for an exit early on, or something. Maybe he planned for a cohost with Heather in the likelihood he would get fed up with a regular schedule as he usually does. There were other less destructive ways to have handled his "stalking situation". He should not have broadcast about it and have full security until the guy was caught-or took a temporary leave and move his family for security and catch the guy with police help- but not talk about the stalker on-air (If he in fact exists). He could have come back part time after the "stalker" was resolved if he wanted. What ever, its disappointing for night time radio and I doubt his reputation will recover "this one".

anunnaki

Quote from: Kongfish on December 14, 2015, 04:43:27 AM
After hearing all this stuff concerning Art, All I can say is I smell fresh bullshit, there are several things that just don't add up, or stack up, now, it does sound like it could be piled at least 5'10 or so.
But, I just ain't believing what I heard.
A.) the shot from the one spot a shot could be taken.  Just not gonna happen, well maybe, if the guy had a $20,000 dollar military grade sniper rifle that could shoot up to a mile. ((With practice over the past 3-5 years everyday)) Art had to much security for anyone to try a shot & get away with it out where he is. They would be on him like a duck on a June bug. Which if someone took a shot a Art, once the local cops got a call from Art or his security team, with the way the news media is today, that story would have blown up on every news station, world wide.
B.) Art said that his daughter would be huddled in the corner of her room with the lights off or on the floor. OK, with that whole deal going on why would anyone with any common sense stay in that location, if a crazy gun man is that near to your house, & family??
Then after all that about your family, you decide to call into the show to talk with a time traveler,
I don't think so. Besides the guy that claimed he was from 2143 or 2151 somewhere around that time, he is more full of shit than a Christmas turkey. Just the meat fact that Moore's law of computing power
Is in direct conflict with his description of that year he claimed to be from.
Oh,Oh and if that guy was from the future, he would have known that the day he talked to Art, was 3 days past Arts last day on the radio show & he would have wanted to be on the show Tuesday night & he could have used that knowledge to prove he was from the future. He could've told everyone that fact because it would be happening live and couldn't affect the future so he could say it was Arts last show.
But instead he showed up back in time to talk to Art, 3 days after Arts last (( Live)) radio show.
I will conclude with the fact that I've been a fan of Arts for along time, but, for some reason after Art claimed he was shot at 4-5 days ago, then he was gone two days and Heather being the guest host
I didn't really care if Art was going or not, I felt that would be the best thing for him. I don't care he is gone, I just hope we can get ""someone good""( Clyde Lewis, maybe??? ))  that's going to take us into the next decade or two. I hope that they can find someone that will take over the show and not shut the dark matters network down. That will SUCK... Clyde Lewis might just have the fan base that's big enough  to keep the network on the air.
Arts, gone, I think it was that Art & Keith got into a argument over something Art wasn't happy with, I.E. SKYPE & the constant issues he kept having with Skype. I mean, Skype has the clearest reception ever, except for when you use it........ I think Art & Keith had a argument
Might be wrong but, I smell fresh horseshit all around this whole subject. Not sure exactly where but it is there.

Well said, and if he can Bull Shit about a major thing like this, then ALL other Major Crisis/Events in the past (Ramona) fall into the realm of Fair Game Questioning-Former Medic-Wife Asthmatic-Where was the Nebulizer/ Bronchodilator ?
Then a few weeks later -off to the Philippines for the newer model

henge0stone

Anyone else thing he is coming back? He is teasing on facebook the idea of doing an occasional show and still talking about it. If he was really completely done I don't think he would be talking like this.

Ciardelo

Quote from: henge0stone on December 14, 2015, 04:36:37 PM
Anyone else thing he is coming back? He is teasing on facebook the idea of doing an occasional show and still talking about it. If he was really completely done I don't think he would be talking like this.
Daddy said he would be back! I just know he'll come back. He's got to come back at Christmas to see us right? He didn't mean all those things he said about leaving forever and ever. Hanging it up for the last time. Never being on his show or any show. He'll be back, I just know it!

henge0stone

Quote from: Ciardelo on December 14, 2015, 04:51:39 PM
Daddy said he would be back! I just know he'll come back. He's got to come back at Christmas to see us right? He didn't mean all those things he said about leaving forever and ever. Hanging it up for the last time. Never being on his show or any show. He'll be back, I just know it!

How many times has Daddy I mean Art quit 'for good'? He did in 1998,2000,2002,2007,2013 (not quite though) and now 2015. I think once things settle down he will realize he wants to do a show again.

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