20151014 - Steven Greer - Disclosure - Live Show Chat Thread

[chefist]

He claimed they were light beings. Also, blurry, pixilated trees were aliens.

Lol Billy Meier II!

[coaster]

Here is Greer's alien. I kid you not.

[ziznak]

Oh god Art Bell with no Bigfoot or aliens is unthinkable.  Some of you guys want to turn a batboy-style guilty-pleasure tabloid into Scentific American.  Kiss of death, man.  How about we have nothing but unsmiling atheists, scientists and debunkers from now on.  Just repudiate his life's work.

True true.... We should keep in mind that this whole genre has it's roots firmly planted in "hoaxy researchers."

[chefist]

Here is Greer's alien. I kid you not.

The Lucky Charms leprechaun? Omg just spit out my beer...

[jblank]

Oh god Art Bell with no Bigfoot or aliens is unthinkable.  Some of you guys want to turn a batboy-style guilty-pleasure tabloid into Scentific American.  Kiss of death, man.  How about we have nothing but unsmiling atheists, scientists and debunkers from now on.  Just repudiate his life's work.

I never said abandon them completely, but so many of these topics have just been done (and done and done and done) that I even feel like an expert on them. There is only so much information that is legitimate and after the credible information gets talked about the rest is just fluff.

Nobody wants to "repudiate his life's work" and I'm certainly not calling for that as I love him and the show, but after you've driven a road a few hundred times, it's often refreshing to take a different route.

[jblank]

Lol Billy Meier II!

I'd argue he's worse.....far worse.

[Barfly]

35 pages is pretty good...I only like Greer when he talks about UFO cases, not conspiracy...

As bad as Greer was last night it made for some entertaining chat, funny how that goes, the worst the guest the better the chat, we are indeed a tough crowd to please

[coaster]

Greer doesn't even try. Even as a con man he is lazy. Moths and trees folks. At least liars like Jonathan "the alien in my fridge is giving me messages" Reed make up entertaining stories. Greer just takes people's money and then turns on his porch light. "Look at all the fluttering aliens! They sure are attracted to this light bulb. That means they love you!"

[jblank]

True true.... We should keep in mind that this whole genre has it's roots firmly planted in "hoaxy researchers."

Yes and no.

I think there's room for discussion on whether say, aliens walk among us, but I also think that speculation about say....types of aliens on different worlds, would be interesting also. I don't think we need to have him abandon any topics (though good lord, I don't think I can sit through another Bigfoot interview), but his show can be often MORE interesting and amazing, when dealing with the tangible, informative, and the plausible.

[chefist]

As bad as Greer was last night it made for some entertaining chat, funny how that goes, the worst the guest the better the chat, we are indeed a tough crowd to please

So true...good guests I end up just listening and not posting... Last night was a blow out of one liners..."what do you call your exhookups?" ..... "Rentals"... Lol   Golden!

[BobGrau]

I never said abandon them completely, but so many of these topics have just been done (and done and done and done) that I even feel like an expert on them. There is only so much information that is legitimate and after the credible information gets talked about the rest is just fluff.

Nobody wants to "repudiate his life's work" and I'm certainly not calling for that as I love him and the show, but after you've driven a road a few hundred times, it's often refreshing to take a different route.

Try not to focus on 'the information'... that way lies disappointment. I'm looking for 'storys' that Art and the audience can then riff on. Or perhaps off, in this case.

But it helps if the storyteller isn't such an obvious fraud. Especially when he hasn't got Hoagland Hair.

[jblank]

The Lucky Charms leprechaun? Omg just spit out my beer...

Then you'll love this.

http://www.siriusdisclosure.com/et-contact-tool/

[jblank]

Try not to focus on 'the information'... that way lies disappointment. I'm looking for 'storys' that Art and the audience can then riff on. Or perhaps off, in this case.

But it helps if the storyteller isn't such an obvious fraud. Especially when he hasn't got Hoagland Hair.

Oh, I agree 100%, but perhaps the natural skeptic in me, when confronted with obvious hokum, is unable to view it as entertainment. If not for Art's amazing skill as an interviewer, the fact that many of the shows are still outstanding, and his passion for these topics, I would cancel my TT subscription. I just happen to believe that a broadening of the topics, perhaps into different areas, would make up for so much information being covered repeatedly.

[BobGrau]

Oh, I agree 100%, but perhaps the natural skeptic in me, when confronted with obvious hokum, is unable to view it as entertainment. If not for Art's amazing skill as an interviewer, the fact that many of the shows are still outstanding, and his passion for these topics, I would cancel my TT subscription. I just happen to believe that a broadening of the topics, perhaps into different areas, would make up for so much information being covered repeatedly.

I hear you, I want to spend more time in that area of physics/cosmology where stuff stops being boringly real and even the credible experts have to reach for wacky conclusions. And there's plenty of it.

[K_Dubb]

Oh, I agree 100%, but perhaps the natural skeptic in me, when confronted with obvious hokum, is unable to view it as entertainment. If not for Art's amazing skill as an interviewer, the fact that many of the shows are still outstanding, and his passion for these topics, I would cancel my TT subscription. I just happen to believe that a broadening of the topics, perhaps into different areas, would make up for so much information being covered repeatedly.

The drama, such as it is, is a human one, watching the huckster dance for his life while Art rides the very edge of credulity with that mysterious chuckle.  Coaster is absolutely right; Greer's just a bad act.  Little Elaine from Texas has him beat, hands down.

[Barfly]

So true...good guests I end up just listening and not posting... Last night was a blow out of one liners..."what do you call your exhookups?" ..... "Rentals"... Lol   Golden!

We are a clusterfuck of sick individuals, im so happy to be one of them.
In reality i think we get out of hand when the guest isn't interesting, I'm not sure if i would trade strange chat for a good show.
I'm so perplexed.

[chefist]

We are a clusterfuck of sick individuals, im so happy to be one of them.
In reality i think we get out of hand when the guest isn't interesting, I'm not sure if i would trade strange chat for a good show.
I'm so perplexed.

Well right now I'm at a dive biker bar in Tucson... Just had a couple of beers and a Kettle One...life makes sense again...

[K_Dubb]

I hear you, I want to spend more time in that area of physics/cosmology where stuff stops being boringly real and even the credible experts have to reach for wacky conclusions. And there's plenty of it.

I would love that, too, but scientists who are charismatic and willing to speculate are as scarce as the simile of your choosing.

[Skunk Ape]

I cant stomach that show, but its been on for years so i suppose people still watch it, a new sucker is born every minute so the saying goes.

I bought the first two seasons on DVD when they were (might still be) $5 at Target.

I only watch the later episodes when I'm drinking or when I want to fall asleep. In the end, passing out is inevitable.

[Barfly]

Well right now I'm at a dive biker bar in Tucson... Just had a couple of beers and a Kettle One...life makes sense again...

Welcome back to reality sir

[Barfly]

I bought the first two seasons on DVD when they were (might still be) $5 at Target.

I only watch the later episodes when I'm drinking or when I want to fall asleep. In the end, passing out is inevitable.

The episodes are repetitious and so much is made up for filler, i actually does more harm than good imo .

[ziznak]

Stephen Greer, your abuse of the term "goose-stepping" is bothersome... Stop it

[Auslandia]

Just remember... Greer raised a bunch of money to release a documentary featuring a fake alien mummy.

[Bradsmith313]

So, I followed Greer's instructions. Went out with my flashlight. Shined the beam up into the nighttime sky. Found this across the street this morning . . . .

[albrecht]

I never said abandon them completely, but so many of these topics have just been done (and done and done and done) that I even feel like an expert on them. There is only so much information that is legitimate and after the credible information gets talked about the rest is just fluff.

Nobody wants to "repudiate his life's work" and I'm certainly not calling for that as I love him and the show, but after you've driven a road a few hundred times, it's often refreshing to take a different route.

My only issue is that many of the guests are telling the same story. I'm all for UFO, Bigfeet, End of the World, prophecy, "free energy," conspiracy, ghosts, EVPs, and etc but get some more new blood or at least new stories. I might be wrong; it could be that new listeners and younger people have never heard the Greers etc so why Art has them on. And I don't mind nostalgia but why they were classics in the past because they had new material.

[AppealPlay]

My only issue is that many of the guests are telling the same story. I'm all for UFO, Bigfeet, End of the World, prophecy, "free energy," conspiracy, ghosts, EVPs, and etc but get some more new blood or at least new stories. I might be wrong; it could be that new listeners and younger people have never heard the Greers etc so why Art has them on. And I don't mind nostalgia but why they were classics in the past because they had new material.

Like I said last night, the paranormal guest pool is stale.  There just isn't much new blood on the circuit at least that I'm aware of.  We need a new generation of hucksters to provide us entertainment.

[lamr]

Why did "the good doctor" tell Art it was " good to see  him again on the radio?"

Synasthesia per chance?

[b_dubb]

Take me away before Syria turns into Armageddon. /kthanksbai

[aldousburbank]

Like I said last night, the paranormal guest pool is stale.  There just isn't much new blood on the circuit at least that I'm aware of.  We need a new generation of hucksters to provide us entertainment.

Jimmy Chunga is available.

[albrecht]

Jimmy Chunga is available.

Bite your tab-covered tongue. No, just no. Need new, good blood or the old ones with some new material.