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20150831 - David Darling - Live Chat Thread

Started by MV/Liberace!, August 31, 2015, 09:58:29 PM

aldousburbank

Quote from: MichaelFromVA on August 31, 2015, 11:29:44 PM
Oh, yeah, population control.  Alex Jones, baby!
Ironically many people are turned on by population control discussions.


Quote from: Dyna-X on August 31, 2015, 11:34:11 PM
We're gonna continue to go out into space, and yes humans will walk on Mars. Why wouldnt we go?


JamesMcDonald

Quote from: aldousburbank on August 31, 2015, 11:35:11 PM
Ironically many people are turned on by population control discussions.

Doom Porn.

Sean92008

Quote from: VoteQuimby on August 31, 2015, 11:31:16 PM
How do you propose to bring about population control with the Jewish, Black and lower class communities? That should be amusing to watch. People are having nervous breakdowns about politicians saying they think we should enforce our immigration laws.

People tend to forget that church folk like to breed.  I say population control starts with our Catholic and Mormon communities  :P

Get yerself out of debt and get yerself a berkee!!

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: Dyna-X on August 31, 2015, 11:34:11 PM
We're gonna continue to go out into space, and yes humans will walk on Mars. Why wouldnt we go?

There becomes less of a reason to go the more technologically advanced you become. Within 10-20 years, the technology will surpass the ability of a human to do research. At that point it just becomes an expensive and dangerous vacation to go there personally. 10-20 years past that, humans begin to truly merge with their technology and space exploration stops being relevant.

zeebo

Quote from: MichaelFromVA on August 31, 2015, 11:33:21 PM
Speaking of the future of medicine, I'm in between doctors at the moment and can't get into my new doctor for several weeks.  In the meantime a prescription I take daily was out of refills and I didn't want to go back to my old doctor.  So instead of missing several doses I discovered telemedicine.  I downloaded an app on my iPad and filled out a couple of forms and within a couple of minutes I was video chatting with a licensed doctor who was able to write me a prescription refill to bridge me to my doctor's appointment.  He sent it electronically to my pharmacy and I picked up the next day.  It felt like Star Trek.

I wouldn't have even thought about that, good to know.

JamesMcDonald

Quote from: VoteQuimby on August 31, 2015, 11:35:20 PM


Uh yeah, so why not cut back some of the $ TRILLIONS of dollars the military-industrial complex is sucking out of the economy?   We can make huge advancements in space travel with that money.

It's a question of choice.  Kill people, or work together and explore space, at the same time advancing the human race.

Let's cut the bullshit.  The money is there.  It's just a question of how it's spent.

zeebo

Quote from: aldousburbank on August 31, 2015, 11:35:11 PM
Ironically many people are turned on by population control discussions.

lol ... (and fair warning, I'm stealing this line before you copyright it.)

Quote from: Sean92008 on August 31, 2015, 11:37:38 PM
People tend to forget that church folk like to breed.  I say population control starts with our Catholic and Mormon communities  :P

You know the thing that scares me is every time you watch a prison documentary. To a man, every one of those fucked up losers talk about how they want to get out and change their life so they can be with their multiple numbers of kids. I find it disturbing this lower criminal class breeds like rabbits and is rotting our country from the inside out, but what you going to do?

Dyna-X

Quote from: VoteQuimby on August 31, 2015, 11:35:20 PM


They're working on a cheaper way. If they can spend half a trillion a year on the military, they can find $20 billion for a Mars mission, especially if China or Russia get the US into a Mars race.

http://www.popularmechanics.com/space/moon-mars/a13390/nasa-mars-missions-ballistic-capture/

Kevin Sorbo

Quote from: Sean92008 on August 31, 2015, 11:37:38 PM
People tend to forget that church folk like to breed.  I say population control starts with our Catholic and Mormon communities  :P

Statistically, those are the folks who take care of their kids, though. Population gain isn't a problem, population gain when parents aren't tending to their children is. There are many parts of the world that actually struggle with maintaining their population growth. Russia, for example.

Quote from: JamesMcDonald on August 31, 2015, 11:39:01 PM
Uh yeah, so why not cut back some of the $ TRILLIONS of dollars the military-industrial complex is sucking out of the economy?   We can make huge advancements in space travel with that money.

It's a question of choice.  Kill people, or work together and explore space, at the same time advancing the human race.

Let's cut the bullshit.  The money is there.  It's just a question of how it's spent.

Because that's not how America works. If the elite in this country aren't getting the majority of the money and we start doing radical hippy shit like space exploration, what's the point?


JamesMcDonald

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on August 31, 2015, 11:38:10 PM
There becomes less of a reason to go the more technologically advanced you become. Within 10-20 years, the technology will surpass the ability of a human to do research. At that point it just becomes an expensive and dangerous vacation to go there personally. 10-20 years past that, humans begin to truly merge with their technology and space exploration stops being relevant.

Huh?  Just curious, but are you American?  If you are, you wouldn't be if a certain group of people didn't set up a project to discover America.

Humans will always reach out into space.  It's a normal function of our nature.  Humans are EXPLORERS.  Space exploration will always be relevant, if anything becoming more and more relevant over the next few decades.

1 to 10 billion earthlike planets in the Milky Way Galaxy...seems like we might have plenty of choices to choose from.



http://nextbigfuture.com/2015/08/1-to-10-billion-earthlike-planets-in.html


JamesMcDonald

Quote from: VoteQuimby on August 31, 2015, 11:41:39 PM
Because that's not how America works. If the elite in this country aren't getting the majority of the money and we start doing radical hippy shit like space exploration, what's the point?

That's my point.  It's a choice.  Right now the sheeple are going along with the Dick Cheneys of the world.

They're making the wrong choice.

Juan Cena

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on August 31, 2015, 11:20:58 PM
Which of course begs the question of why would you build a dome to hold in an atmosphere? He's getting too dated. He should try to let that stuff rest and focus on being a radio host or one of these nights he'll get his ass handed to him by a futurist. I don't really want to see that to be honest, I think the guy's show is great, but he's wide open.

I have my doubts RCH has read much SF past 1977. Heck, I doubt he's read much SF past 1967!

Ideas like nanotech, cyberpunk, or the Singularity seem alien to him.

Bradsmith313

Evolution is possible and you can find it in nature . . . .

Quote from: JamesMcDonald on August 31, 2015, 11:44:26 PM
That's my point.  It's a choice.  Right now the sheeple are going along with the Dick Cheneys of the world.

They're making the wrong choice.

Do they have a choice?

AppealPlay

This guy is a better scientist than Richard is.

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: JamesMcDonald on August 31, 2015, 11:42:09 PM
Huh?  Just curious, but are you American?  If you are, you wouldn't be if a certain group of people didn't set up a project to discover America.

Humans will always reach out into space.  It's a normal function of our nature.  Humans are EXPLORERS.  Space exploration will always be relevant, if anything becoming more and more relevant over the next few decades.

I am American and this continent is nothing like Mars and it's not 1492. You do not need to explore space when you reach superintelligence and post-humanity, and fully understand how the universe works and can model it, then there is no point in exploring it.

We won't be human in 50 years. We will be post-human.

GeoNemesis

Hang up on this dude, he's already taken up 5 minutes talking about nothing and now he's spewing bullshit about mathematic impossibilities... DON'T LET HIM FINISH - call back during open lines doofus!


JamesMcDonald

Quote from: Juan Cena on August 31, 2015, 11:44:55 PM
I have my doubts RCH has read much SF past 1977. Heck, I doubt he's read much SF past 1967!

Ideas like nanotech, cyberpunk, or the Singularity seem alien to him.


JamesMcDonald

Quote from: SciFiAuthor on August 31, 2015, 11:45:45 PM
I am American and this continent is nothing like Mars and it's not 1492. You do not need to explore space when you reach superintelligence and post-humanity, and fully understand how the universe works and can model it, then there is no point in exploring it.

We won't be human in 50 years. We will be post-human.

That's possible.  Not guaranteed.  You talk about it like it's a 100% given.  It's not.

AppealPlay

Why would you call in to ask an astronomer about biology? ???

Sean92008

Quote from: VoteQuimby on August 31, 2015, 11:40:26 PM
You know the thing that scares me is every time you watch a prison documentary. To a man, every one of those fucked up losers talk about how they want to get out and change their life so they can be with their multiple numbers of kids. I find it disturbing this lower criminal class breeds like rabbits and is rotting our country from the inside out, but what you going to do?

And where do religions get their new members?  Places that the crazies and addicts go. 

A mass die-off is needed.

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