20150817 - Joe Rogan - Live Chat Thread

[Gruntled]

Oh man this show has been a hoot.
Much better than I anticipated.
Played Sereda's Sun sound and got a "what the hell is that"?

[twiki]

I thought this show was great. Art is in fine form.

[MV/Liberace!]

When I first read the comments in the beginning of the thread I was thinking "whats wrong w these people??? they don't like joe roegan?"
but yeah I'm already  liking this.

I think Rogan is the perfect guest for Art on multiple levels.

[chefist]

Man I fell asleep after the first few minutes...glad I'm a Traveler...it is fun listening, reading the thread and drinking coffee in the morning though...this was a great show with Joe....

[Robert]

Neat info about the star Spica ...

To find Spica .. First find the handle of the Big Dipper ... then "first Arc to Arcturus ... and then Speed-on to Spica".  Just somethin I remembered from my stargazin days.

I learned it as, "Follow the arc to Arcturus, and then speak to Spica."

[Robert]

Trouble is, hard scientists who aren't out there (i.e., kooks) are boring.  I can never make it through a whole Michiu Kaku show.

Yeah.  I'm a hard scientist, & I tend to be boring, though I'm also a kook in various ways.  Many scientists you'll find are kooks, just not about their science.

[Autistic Star Children]

Listened to my first Joe Rogan's podcast this morning at the gym. Never realized how good he is at this.

If you were on the fence, heed my advice and give him a listen!

[Robert]

Art Bell's still on too late for me to get thru all of even though very interesting, so I fell asleep about halfway thru.

Many of my friends are into "vibrational" stuff, and it's tantalizing.  I think there's something there, but I'm frustrated by the assumptions they make.  Yes, everything vibrates.  Some people claim to know "the frequency" of various things.  The problem is that anything of considerable size or complexity is going to have so many vibrational modes (whether considered acoustically or electronically or in any other aspect) that it can never meaningfully be said to have a primary resonant frequency.  It will have such a vast number of potential frequencies that there's no justif'n for talking about any of them.

[chefist]

Yeah.  I'm a hard scientist, & I tend to be boring, though I'm also a kook in various ways.  Many scientists you'll find are kooks, just not about their science.

That's a good explanation! I'm a chemist and found certain hard scientists are "kookier" than others! 

[Chronaut]

You should check out his podcasts with Hancock, Randall Carlson, Steve Greer, NDT. He really is interested in a lot of the same things Art is.

I’d never heard Joe Rogan until last night and I thought he was a terrific and dynamic guest.  Then I checked out a couple of his YouTube shows posted by a member here and his interview with Steven Greer was riveting â€" it felt a lot like listening to Art conducting an interview because he knew the subject matter and asked all the right questions.  Greer’s a tough bird to figure out â€" on one hand he’s absolutely solid on a ton of special access program and government secrecy stuff, but he also makes some leaps and conveys them as proven facts, when they’re not, and goes off on some alien telepathy directions that just sound nuts.  But then, sometimes the truth really does seem zany when you get to the bottom of things.  In any case it’s great food for thought ;)

Many of my friends are into "vibrational" stuff, and it's tantalizing.  I think there's something there, but I'm frustrated by the assumptions they make.  Yes, everything vibrates.  Some people claim to know "the frequency" of various things.  The problem is that anything of considerable size or complexity is going to have so many vibrational modes (whether considered acoustically or electronically or in any other aspect) that it can never meaningfully be said to have a primary resonant frequency.  It will have such a vast number of potential frequencies that there's no justif'n for talking about any of them.

Yeah the mystique of “vibrations” goes back to Keeley or earlier, and it’s been solidly in the “woo” camp ever since.  But the latest advancements in the fusion of phononics and metamaterials hold untold research potential these days, and I’m thrilled to see where it leads.  They’ve already demonstrated band gap engineering and thermal diodes and I think thermal transistors and rectifiers are emerging as well.  Molecularly engineered macroscopic crystals with fixed vibrational modes won’t be far off.

Personally I'd love to hear more interviews with brilliant scientists.  Sure they're not always the most dynamic speakers, but often they are, and in both cases there's lots to learn along the way.  I'd rather have that than more of Sereda's blarney any day.

[Abraham Lincoln]

Joe Rogan was a GREAT guest. He made more great radio for Art in the 45 minutes he was on than the second guest did in 2 hours.

What I really noticed from re-listening to the full episode was how amped up Art seemed to be when Joe was on with him and how he seemed almost disinterested in David Sereda.

I've said for years that if ever there was a broadcaster that SHOULD have taken over for Art Bell on Coast, Rogan fits the bill.

He's skeptical, but naturally curious and even does research before he sits down with his guests. I sincerely hope Art has Joe back soon and does Joe's podcast someday - which if you haven't listened to, do yourself a favor and get with it!

Joe's had Graham Hancock on a number of times. Shane Smith from Vice always has crazy stories. Randall Carlson from the Sacred Geometry Institute is another great couple of podcasts. Not sure if Art's ever interviewed Randall, but he'd be PERFECT for MITD.

Sorry for the mini-blog, but had to get my 2 cents in. I too was once anti-Rogan, but his podcast changed my entire perception of him.

Oh, and I loved the prank caller who pointed out David's "circle talk" - not sure Art caught the gag, but Sereda completely missed it. What a maroon.

[Skunk Ape]

Randall Carlson from the Sacred Geometry Institute is another great couple of podcasts. Not sure if Art's ever interviewed Randall, but he'd be PERFECT for MITD.

I wanted to suggest Carlson as a guest for Art right when he was fielding suggestion, but was too afraid that the other guys would get to him first. In hindsight I could have just emailed him... oh well.

[ZomZom]

I really liked the Joe Rogan interview.  He combines the evolutionarily familiar with the evolutionarily novel, which is a roundabout way of calling him a sexy nerd.

David Sereda's schtick is pure drivel without entertainment value IMHO.

My biggest takeaway from the show was Art's statement that Philip Corso has been the subject of much debunking recently.  I'd like a follow-up on that to learn more.  I thought Corso sounded completely sincere when Art interviewed him about a year before Corso's death in 1998.

[jazmunda]

Just catching the show now. Rogan is a great guest and deserves a full 3 hours.

[aldousburbank]

Just catching the show now. Rogan is a great guest and deserves a full 3 hours.

I conjecture that the vibrational tonal frequency of Uranus is in the key of A.
Thoughts?

[aldousburbank]

Just catching the show now. Rogan is a great guest and deserves a full 3 hours.

Jaz, did you hear the cock joke fail last night? Not everyone has your skills in pulling that off so to speak.

[Xitheron]

Nice how you belittle ham radio the way you did. I suggest you look at the ARRL handbook once, and then shut up

I didn't belittle Ham Radio. Do you have to get an engineering degree to be a Ham radio operator? Maybe you do I don't know. I don't doubt that it's no simple thing.

[jazmunda]

Jaz, did you hear the cock joke fail last night? Not everyone has your skills in pulling that off so to speak.

He he.

[coaster]

I hope Art takes Joe up on his offer. It would be cool to hear Art's experience with a sensory deprivation tank.

[saucerlike]

- he flatly stated that aluminum isn't conductive.  Aluminum is a very good conductor in fact, which is why it's used as grounding cable for lightning rods.

Sereda loves to present himself as some kind of scientist, but he seriously has no grasp of the subject whatsoever.  You could hear that Art knew that Sereda stepped in poop several times, but instead of busting him outright, he chose a disapproving grunt instead, lol.

David Sereda is only good for comedic value.  He's sort of a "Dr. Venkman" of paranormal science, but without the PhD:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_vHbFQRT3Y

Indeed.  I worked in the electrical dept. of a hardware store, 100-200 Amp Service Entrance Wire was all Aluminum.  You will also notice "AlCu" stamped on circuit breakers, etc meaning it's compatible with Aluminum or Copper wire.

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

Indeed.  I worked in the electrical dept. of a hardware store, 100-200 Amp Service Entrance Wire was all Aluminum.  You will also notice "AlCu" stamped on circuit breakers, etc meaning it's compatible with Aluminum or Copper wire.

And then there's this:



Yep, it checks out.

[mcribwich]

This was another killer show...Joe Rogan was GREAT, hope to hear a longer interview soon!

[popple]

I read isolation tanks can help the back 

[aldousburbank]

I read isolation tanks can help the back 

I read they can help the front.

[jazmunda]

I read isolation tanks can help the back 

I'm reporting this one directly to (redacted). This is too serious an infraction to wake up MV.

[popple]

 

[albrecht]

Indeed.  I worked in the electrical dept. of a hardware store, 100-200 Amp Service Entrance Wire was all Aluminum.  You will also notice "AlCu" stamped on circuit breakers, etc meaning it's compatible with Aluminum or Copper wire.

I had a house built in early 70's that has aluminum wiring, apparently due to high copper prices during those years. The lights worked fine.  Though I have heard later on (long gone from that house) that there was a greater threat of fire, though I never had a problem (I guess dissimilar metals etc and junction boxes and outlets not designed for Aluminum in many cases.)

[jazmunda]

Oh and reported for overuse of emoticons.

You can use a maximum of 3 or one oversized novelty one.

[nbirnes]

Oh and reported for overuse of emoticons.

You can use a maximum of 3 or one oversized novelty one.

You are so back, Jazmunda. I, for one, am a lolling.

[jazmunda]

Just finished listening and really enjoyed the show.  It had the right amount of batshit craziness to quench my craving whilst abroad. Vive le Art Bell.