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Windows 10
« Reply #390 on: August 23, 2016, 05:14:22 PM »
What in the hell is this OneDrive Microsoft keeps wanting me to update? I'm sure it's something I won't fool with

if you want to remove it from your machine, run this:

http://ufoship.com/onedrive.bat

onedrive is bullshit.

if the process seems to hang while it's uninstalling, tap the space bar.

Windows 10
« Reply #391 on: August 23, 2016, 05:22:37 PM »
if you want to remove it from your machine, run this:

http://ufoship.com/onedrive.bat

onedrive is bullshit.

if the process seems to hang while it's uninstalling, tap the space bar.

Yes.

Thank You MV.

Windows 10
« Reply #392 on: August 23, 2016, 05:29:58 PM »
if you want to remove it from your machine, run this:

http://ufoship.com/onedrive.bat

onedrive is bullshit.

if the process seems to hang while it's uninstalling, tap the space bar.

I have never used the Windows 10 onedrive app, but the one they have for idevices sucks. You would think that an app developed for idevices would provide at least the same functionality as the website using the browser, and even offer a few nice idevice add ins. It sucks. I have to keep using the website with Safari to even download files that aren't pictures.

Windows 10
« Reply #393 on: August 23, 2016, 05:51:16 PM »
I have never used the Windows 10 onedrive app, but the one they have for idevices sucks. You would think that an app developed for idevices would provide at least the same functionality as the website using the browser, and even offer a few nice idevice add ins. It sucks. I have to keep using the website with Safari to even download files that aren't pictures.

use dropbox and be done with it.

Windows 10
« Reply #394 on: August 23, 2016, 06:50:31 PM »
if you want to remove it from your machine, run this:

http://ufoship.com/onedrive.bat

onedrive is bullshit.

if the process seems to hang while it's uninstalling, tap the space bar.

Praise MV. OneDrive is absolute rubbish. Dropbox ftw

Windows 10
« Reply #395 on: August 24, 2016, 01:58:59 AM »
Praise MV. OneDrive is absolute rubbish. Dropbox ftw

indeed.  it's wonderful MS provides no official way to remove onedrive.  it's yet another failed, uninteresting, irrelevant "meeeee toooooo" product from microsoft.

Windows 10
« Reply #396 on: August 24, 2016, 12:43:55 PM »
indeed.  it's wonderful MS provides no official way to remove onedrive.  it's yet another failed, uninteresting, irrelevant "meeeee toooooo" product from microsoft.

Yes and you have to go into regedit to remove, there's no standard uninstall method as you mentioned.

Windows 10
« Reply #397 on: August 24, 2016, 06:30:25 PM »
Yes and you have to go into regedit to remove, there's no standard uninstall method as you mentioned.

Or just run that batch file I linked.

Re: Windows 10
« Reply #398 on: August 24, 2016, 08:21:10 PM »
why is that a "higher level of the problem"?  how do you think the alleged personal data is transmitted to microsoft?

Not sure what you mean by this.  You don't think that the ability to monitor every keystroke you enter in your computer is more invasive that what an ISP can monitor?  Or are you unaware that MS can do this?

I assume that you know that one of the privacy settings that you can toggle deals directly with that capability.  I hope we're not debating whether that capability exists.  A user can choose to turn off that capability for certain purposes, but can't switch it off unilaterally.  And MS has amply and repeatedly demonstrated themselves to be rapacious, unethical douchebags with regards to taking what they want and lying to the users about it.

We need not go through another round of penis-fencing about what constitutes privacy and whether MS is violating it.  If you want to argue with someone, go argue with France.  They -- and other countries in Europe are right behind them -- have declared that MS violates French law with the unabashed privacy violations caused by Windows 10.  Or you could argue with the Internet.  Even the most slavish fanboi sites gesture nervously at the excesses that MS has made with Win10.  Or go argue with the user base, who have waved their penises at free updates to Win 10.  And it's not just indifference.  MS crudely and deceptively tried to force Win 10 onto that user base, so they must be pushing back.

I have a much more expansive view of what constitutes private information than you do.  We have our respective opinions, and that's fine.  I would just like to point out that while there is room for you to exercise your preferences in my worldview, there isn't any for me in yours.  I'm not blaming you for that, just pointing it out so you might be able to see why I'm so cranky about it. 

On a related subject, did you know that MS has access to your encryption key through Windows 10, and that you are REQUIRED by default to upload it to them, where it is in their possession and out of your control?  I'm sure the NSA loves that.  And fanbois who don't give two fucks about privacy don't care, either...for now.  There are work arounds to deal with it, but it requires technical knowledge.  How many typical users even know about it?  Read all about it here, folks:

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/12/29/0212222/microsoft-has-your-encryption-key-if-you-use-windows-10

Here's info about what to do about it:

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/12/microsoft-may-have-your-encryption-key-heres-how-to-take-it-back/


Windows 10
« Reply #399 on: September 05, 2016, 07:33:50 AM »
      


Re: Windows 10
« Reply #401 on: September 09, 2016, 07:43:42 AM »
Not sure what you mean by this.  You don't think that the ability to monitor every keystroke you enter in your computer is more invasive that what an ISP can monitor?  Or are you unaware that MS can do this?
this will be my last message on the subject, as i just don't care enough to waste any additional time on it.

again... how do you think that data is transmitted to microsoft?  all transmitted/received data can be recorded (and often is) at the ISP, regardless of what microsoft does or doesn't implement.  my point is not to say you're overreacting.  i'm suggesting you're underreacting because you're too focused on windows as the point of privacy/security compromise. 

your consumer router is probably fucking your privacy in some horrible way you're oblivious to.  android phones and iphones upload keystrokes to generate predictive text.  they upload recordings of our voices for better voice recognition.  they upload location or browser/app usage data to generate targeted ads and facilitate other services.  they upload our contacts.  our pictures.  they track our payments.  there's nothing new to any of that, and a little calm consideration of the facts reveals microsoft's win10 data harvesting efforts to be overwhelmingly similar in purpose; it's about providing user services/features, not spying on your asian porn collection.  nobody cares what you're cranking to.  so use iOS/android, or don't.  use win10, or don't.  but i think you're wrong to frame microsoft's intent as wholly malicious. 

oh, and by the way, there's NSA code in whatever linux distro you're running.  go check that out.  lots of articles on it out there.

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I would just like to point out that while there is room for you to exercise your preferences in my worldview, there isn't any for me in yours.
huh?  do you think it's my worldview that you should be told what operating system to use?  if you think that, you're running when you're not being chased.

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On a related subject, did you know that MS has access to your encryption key through Windows 10, and that you are REQUIRED by default to upload it to them, where it is in their possession and out of your control?

if you sign in to windows with a local account rather than a microsoft account, none of that happens.  while it seems intended to prevent users losing their encrypted data, it's a typically miserable implementation on microsoft's part as there's no initial opt-in.  sure, you can go delete the key from onedrive after it's been uploaded, but deleting something only deletes it "for now".  it defeats the entire purpose of encryption.  having said that, is there anyone out there who actually believes they're securing data by using a microsoft encryption mechanism?  i've never once bothered with bitlocker, for this very reason.

Re: Windows 10
« Reply #402 on: September 09, 2016, 09:10:55 AM »
Not sure what you mean by this.  You don't think that the ability to monitor every keystroke you enter in your computer is more invasive that what an ISP can monitor?  Or are you unaware that MS can do this?

I assume that you know that one of the privacy settings that you can toggle deals directly with that capability.  I hope we're not debating whether that capability exists.  A user can choose to turn off that capability for certain purposes, but can't switch it off unilaterally.  And MS has amply and repeatedly demonstrated themselves to be rapacious, unethical douchebags with regards to taking what they want and lying to the users about it.

We need not go through another round of penis-fencing about what constitutes privacy and whether MS is violating it.  If you want to argue with someone, go argue with France.  They -- and other countries in Europe are right behind them -- have declared that MS violates French law with the unabashed privacy violations caused by Windows 10.  Or you could argue with the Internet.  Even the most slavish fanboi sites gesture nervously at the excesses that MS has made with Win10.  Or go argue with the user base, who have waved their penises at free updates to Win 10.  And it's not just indifference.  MS crudely and deceptively tried to force Win 10 onto that user base, so they must be pushing back.

I have a much more expansive view of what constitutes private information than you do.  We have our respective opinions, and that's fine.  I would just like to point out that while there is room for you to exercise your preferences in my worldview, there isn't any for me in yours.  I'm not blaming you for that, just pointing it out so you might be able to see why I'm so cranky about it. 

On a related subject, did you know that MS has access to your encryption key through Windows 10, and that you are REQUIRED by default to upload it to them, where it is in their possession and out of your control?  I'm sure the NSA loves that.  And fanbois who don't give two fucks about privacy don't care, either...for now.  There are work arounds to deal with it, but it requires technical knowledge.  How many typical users even know about it?  Read all about it here, folks:

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/12/29/0212222/microsoft-has-your-encryption-key-if-you-use-windows-10

Here's info about what to do about it:

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/12/microsoft-may-have-your-encryption-key-heres-how-to-take-it-back/


Re: Windows 10
« Reply #403 on: September 09, 2016, 09:39:47 AM »


oh, and by the way, there's NSA code in whatever linux distro you're running.  go check that out. 

if you sign in to windows with a local account rather than a microsoft account, none of that happens.  while it seems intended to prevent users losing their encrypted data, it's a typically miserable implementation on microsoft's part as there's no initial opt-in.  sure, you can go delete the key from onedrive after it's been uploaded, but deleting something only deletes it "for now".  it defeats the entire purpose of encryption.  having said that, is there anyone out there who actually believes they're securing data by using a microsoft encryption mechanism?  i've never once bothered with bitlocker, for this very reason.

I've been wanting to say that for a long time. There is an interesting history about Ubuntu and Microsoft when Microsoft changed to the secure boot system.  It was a long while back now, and I don't remember the details, but I'm sure all the history is out there to look up.  Debian, and Debian based OS's might still be free of the Ubuntu/Microsoft deal, I don't know.  I haven't kept up with that scenario since I started using the Windows10 Preview builds, seems so long ago now.

and No.


Windows 10
« Reply #404 on: September 16, 2016, 09:21:57 AM »
MV & brig are right, there are very few OS's that haven't been infiltrated, including the Linux flavors - especially Ubuntu.

If you are not happy with Cortana, try this: http://www.512tech.com/technology/should-you-disable-cortana-windows-not-impossible/lmARz83odntnHMcoNKi1kM/

Credit to Albrecht, this link was tertiary to a post he dropped in the Function Random thread.

Re: Windows 10
« Reply #405 on: October 07, 2016, 10:23:11 PM »
this will be my last message on the subject, as i just don't care enough to waste any additional time on it.

Fair enough.  I think we are arguing competing belief systems, so there really isn't any logical end point to this conversation.

android phones and iphones upload keystrokes to generate predictive text.  they upload recordings of our voices for better voice recognition.  they upload location or browser/app usage data to generate targeted ads and facilitate other services.  they upload our contacts.  our pictures.  they track our payments. 

My iPhone doesn't, because I either have those things disabled or choose not to use those services.  I don't use voice commands; I don't allow my phone to use location features; I don't use online banking or cloud services or online payment systems and on and on.  I choose not to use those things because I don't agree with those services collecting data about me in exchange for using them.  I pay for two email accounts rather than using Yahoo or Google or someone else who reads my mail in exchange for giving me a free email account. 

And that goes back to my point about worldviews.  In my view, devices or software should allow for a choice.  I should be able to use them, or not.  Disable data collection features, or not.  In the cases I just listed out, I have that choice.  I know that the majority of people happily allow companies to ram a dick in their asses in exchange for the use of some toys.  I don't care, particularly, if people choose to do that.  I do what I want; they do what they want.

However, in the other worldview, the one I referred to as yours, I don't have a choice.  I don't use Google products, and yet they track me on the web using their supercookie and sell that information.  Facebook creates "community" pages for my businesses and for me personally if someone mentions me or those businesses in one of their fucking posts.  And there is no way to remove those, even if the data they contain is erroneous.  Win10 would monitors information about me and use it whether I like it or not.  And they are doing everything in their power to FORCE me off of the Windows 7 software I paid for and onto that no-choice option.

I went to a job interview and the HR person demanded that I turn over my account name and passwords for my LinkdIn and Facebook accounts.  I told her that I don't have accounts with those companies, and she terminated the interview on the spot.  I can no longer pay my credit card bill at my bank with cash.  They won't accept it.  But they are happy to help me set up an online bill paying system.  In the USA, I use a feature phone.  When that dies, I have no choice but to buy a smart phone.  Verizon wants that because -- surprise! -- they monitor your web usage and sell it to advertisers, and they can't do that with a feature phone.  Oh, you also have no choice anymore but to buy a data plan, even if you never use the data.

In my view of the world, everyone has a choice.  In yours, none of us can have a choice.  Because you don't care, I can't either.

Technology is becoming an integral and unavoidable part of our lives, and that's fine.  Except that slowly, inexorably, choice is being removed.   You won't be able function in society without having MS, Facebook, Google et al's dick in your ass.  It goes against the notions of liberty and the exercise of free will.  We all get worked up when something obvious happens to impinge on our liberties, but are too busy having orgasms over another "like" or friend request to give a fuck that our liberties are being narrowed down through the acquiescence to policies like are present with Win10.   That's my big complaint.  Yeah, I know there's other leaks.  Some of which most people don't know about.  But for starters, I'm just trying to deal with the shit that is obvious and a blister on my taint every fucking day. 

Windows 10
« Reply #406 on: October 07, 2016, 11:51:43 PM »
MV & brig are right, there are very few OS's that haven't been infiltrated, including the Linux flavors - especially Ubuntu.

If you are not happy with Cortana, try this: http://www.512tech.com/technology/should-you-disable-cortana-windows-not-impossible/lmARz83odntnHMcoNKi1kM/

Credit to Albrecht, this link was tertiary to a post he dropped in the Function Random thread.
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Windows 10
« Reply #407 on: October 12, 2016, 06:09:44 AM »
OMG B_B - Bloody sweet and elegant BBCode hack. :)

Synchronicity strikes again.I was just looking into this a month or two ago. You are absolutely correct. Thank you for the excellent links.

Translation for those with difficulty understanding Beelzebubbelah's posts.  http://www.pcworld.com/article/2883903/how-intel-and-pc-makers-prevent-you-from-modifying-your-pcs-firmware.html
Blob, as referred to in the preceding article is an IT term, not some slimy green booger. ;)  ;D 
http://techterms.com/definition/blob


Edit: If you want to know just how deep the problem is, check this out at  >>
Why is the latest Intel hardware unsupported in libreboot?      [h++ps://libreboot.org/faq/#intel]

Windows 10
« Reply #408 on: October 30, 2016, 04:15:22 PM »
Been using Win10 since soon after launch (with all the tacked on garbage disabled), only real issue that pops up from time-to-time is the OS not recognizing my USB keyboard and mouse at boot, so it loads to the Tablet screen and is totally unresponsive. Just plug them into different USB inputs and reboot to fix. Only happened maybe four times ever.         

Windows 10
« Reply #409 on: October 30, 2016, 04:29:31 PM »
I'm getting updates every few days.  I get the message stating that I need to restart blah blah blah. It's kind of a pain in the ass.  My neighbor also has Windows 10 yet says he doesn't get many update prompts.  My question is, shouldn't everyone get the same updates at the same time?   

Windows 10
« Reply #410 on: October 30, 2016, 04:34:40 PM »
I'm getting updates every few days.  I get the message stating that I need to restart blah blah blah. It's kind of a pain in the ass.  My neighbor also has Windows 10 yet says he doesn't get many update prompts.  My question is, shouldn't everyone get the same updates at the same time?

Some times good practice is to wait day or two and to google first the update link and read what so called experts in the field have to say
about that particular update -many times is totally OK, but many times might cause more crap than is wort it.
I wouldn't rush with it before consulting those who know first,..like some wizards here on BG

Windows 10
« Reply #411 on: October 30, 2016, 05:36:38 PM »
I'm getting updates every few days.  I get the message stating that I need to restart blah blah blah. It's kind of a pain in the ass.  My neighbor also has Windows 10 yet says he doesn't get many update prompts.  My question is, shouldn't everyone get the same updates at the same time?

windows updates get published every second tuesday of the month, with that said it depends on how you have your windows 10 updates set up that determines when they get installed, so it can very from person to person.

Windows 10
« Reply #412 on: October 30, 2016, 06:08:10 PM »
I'm getting updates every few days.  I get the message stating that I need to restart blah blah blah. It's kind of a pain in the ass.  My neighbor also has Windows 10 yet says he doesn't get many update prompts.  My question is, shouldn't everyone get the same updates at the same time?

It *sounds* like you might have a cumulative update that is not installing properly.  If you go to updates in settings, and scan for updates, you can see the update "numbers" there, and in windows update history. look up that update number, and as has been said before, read what is said about that update. There might even be a manual version of that update from Microsoft to try doing it manually instead of through windows update.

Windows 10
« Reply #413 on: November 18, 2016, 12:48:05 PM »
Speaking of Win 10 updates -- here's some recent news and some of my experiences...

1)  The installed base of Win 7 users grew faster than Win 10 during September and October.  In September, Win 10 actually LOST usage share.

http://betanews.com/2016/11/01/windows-10-share-flatlines/

2)  Microsoft has joined the Linux Foundation.  Apparently they plan to put an Ubuntu image on top of Win 10, so that they can steal the personal information from Linux users as well as those of Windows users.

3)  I recently acquired a Microsoft wireless mouse, model 5000.  On my dual boot laptop, the mouse is not recognized as a device -- cannot make a connection through Bluetooth.  However, it ran like a top in Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon.  That's right, a MICROSOFT mouse would not work under Windows, but it worked in Linux.

4)  Microsoft continues to brick devices with their cumulative updates to Win 10.  Among the goodies you will find after a cumulative update is that MS has helpfully reset all of your privacy settings to the default of "violent anal rape."  In other news, in order to force people off of Win 7 and 8, MS sneaked in a "security" update which disables the user from selecting individual updates in those OS's.  Like Win 10, the user no longer has any control over the update process. 

5)  Linux Mint 18 (Cinnamon) is a great OS.  Clean, intuitive interface.  Finds printers automatically and downloads/installs the drivers for you, can see inside Apple products, etc.  I can now do everything in Linux that I can do in Windows 7, and all the software is free.  On the downside, OpenOffice is still buggy, though usable.

6)  Refurbishing a Sony Vaio netbook to sell.  I made it a dual boot Win10/Linux Mint 13.  I left it logged in to Win 10 to perform all the updates.  Not sure what, exactly, was going on, but after a full week, it was still spinning the disk to the tune of an average load of 65% of total disk transfer capacity.  That's while it was sitting idle, with me never having done anything to it after the install other than connect it to the internet and let it run.  I know that netbooks have a high disk xfer rate anyway, that's just how they roll, but this made it really difficult to operate -- any task you attempted was usually preceded by a long delay.  Started over again with Win 7 and both that and Linux ran adequately.  I think that an SSD might have resolved at least some of this problem, but not really interested to go there, or use Win 10 for that matter.  This was just for the experience.

Thankfully, everything lives forever on the Internet...so there is proof that MS is a bunch of duplicitous twatheads.  Check out this ad from 2013, two years before Win 10 launched:

https://youtu.be/iI1ominSL_c

Windows 10
« Reply #414 on: November 18, 2016, 02:35:52 PM »
For everybody worried about Windows10 phoning home to MS...

Install Spybot Anti-Beacon.

Windows 10
« Reply #415 on: November 18, 2016, 02:51:08 PM »
For everybody worried about Windows10 phoning home to MS...

Install Spybot Anti-Beacon.

Also:

https://youtu.be/u1kGMCfb2xw

Windows 10
« Reply #416 on: November 19, 2016, 03:28:35 AM »
windows updates get published every second tuesday of the month, with that said it depends on how you have your windows 10 updates set up that determines when they get installed, so it can very from person to person.
That, and once your update is completed, Win10 uses your bandwidth to seed other computers. If you deal with bandwidth caps, you may want to turn that off.

http://lifehacker.com/windows-10-uses-your-bandwidth-to-distribute-updates-d-1721091469

Windows 10
« Reply #417 on: November 19, 2016, 03:36:50 AM »
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5)  Linux Mint 18 (Cinnamon) is a great OS.  Clean, intuitive interface.  Finds printers automatically and downloads/installs the drivers for you, can see inside Apple products, etc.  I can now do everything in Linux that I can do in Windows 7, and all the software is free.  On the downside, OpenOffice is still buggy, though usable.
...

Jump to LibreOffice as it is actively developed by a large community. Disabling Javascript (depending on the functionality that you use) in O.O and L.O. clears up a lot of the bugs too.
Ixquick it. ;)
Mint Cinnamon (DE) is a very good Linux beginner system for people looking to switch from M$.
Thanks DPS. :)

Windows 10
« Reply #418 on: November 19, 2016, 11:19:53 AM »
Jump to LibreOffice as it is actively developed by a large community. Disabling Javascript (depending on the functionality that you use) in O.O and L.O. clears up a lot of the bugs too.
Ixquick it. ;)

Thanks for that tip.

Mint Cinnamon (DE) is a very good Linux beginner system for people looking to switch from M$.

Ouch!  My pride.

Actually, though, that's an important point.  My girlfriend kept bugging the shit out of me, trying to figure out how to do things in Win 10, which was the OS on the laptop that I bought for her.  Such a pain in the ass.  I gave her a live boot flash drive with Mint 18 Cinnamon on it to check it out.  Not sure how this version performs off of a DVD, but booted off of a flash drive it operates so responsively that you would swear that it was installed on the hard drive.  Point being that you can download Mint 18, install it on a flash drive, boot it from the flash drive, and use it to your heart's content without ever touching your accursed Win 10 install.  Great way to try it out.  If you decide it's not for you, simply remove the flash drive.  That's it.

Two reviews of Linux Mint 18:

http://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-mint-18-the-best-desktop-period/

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/08/mint-18-review-just-works-linux-doesnt-get-any-better-than-this/

Download page -- all of these are Linux Mint 18 iso files.  There are four different interfaces you can choose from.  I prefer Cinnamon, though others may have a different opinion.  The OS is the same, it's just a different interface presentation (things will be organized and presented differently to you from the taskbar).  Also, there are 32 and 64 bit editions depending upon your hardware.

https://www.linuxmint.com/release.php?id=27

Installing on a flash drive: you need at least an 8 gb flash drive (16 gb is better).  The tool below will install the iso file on your flash drive; you need then only boot from the flash drive rather than your hard drive, and Mint will run completely from the flash drive and not touch the hard drive at all.  Bonus: if you want to continue to run from the flash drive for a time, you can install software and OS updates onto the flash drive installation, provided that you allocate some space on the flash drive to store those updates.  Later, if you decided that you want to install it on your hard drive, there is a link to do that on the desktop.

This is one of many locations to download the FREE utility Universal USB Installer.  This one has a few screenshots.  Be sure that you use an empty or unneeded flash drive as the Linux install on that flash drive will erase everything on it.

https://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/

Windows 10
« Reply #419 on: November 19, 2016, 09:26:23 PM »
I installed Linux Mint 18 Cinnamon on my laptop today and I love it. I checked it out just via USB for a bit, then used the link on the Desktop to install it. I installed it as stand alone OS, not alongside Windows 10. I used Rufus for ISO extraction though, not PenDriveLinux.