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Why is Art Bell only heard on mostly white conservative radio stations (US)?

Started by Ultra_Infinite7, July 28, 2015, 07:11:59 AM


This somewhat fascinates me, that most of the US radio market Art Bell/C2C syndicate their programs through mainly conservative radio stations (the same stations that play Rush Limbaugh, Mike Savage, Levin and others..).
One would think, that some of the topics Art Bell/C2C engages in, are somewhat universal topis that transcends politics. I've never heard of any so-called liberal stations carrying their programs, so why is that?  ;)

cweb

Coast is carried by conserva-talk in many markets because it's packaged with Rush. That's how Noory can brag about all these damn affiliates.

In the earlier days Art's show seemed to have a libertarian (and maybe slightly conservative) slant, so he probably appealed to those stations a bit more when he was starting out.

He still has that sort of slant but tries to avoid it (and politics) to help the show appeal to all. Plus, politics gets boring.

Not sure what the political bend on Art's new affiliates is, but it shouldn't matter. Art and Keith have said that they give precedence to the largest candidates in each market. That's all.

Why the politics/race card is perceived here, I don't know. Frankly, it's kind of irritating that is being brought into this. Art has always taken calls from all kinds. It's just good discussion.

orangecat

Does it really matter where the show's coming from, Im sure the liberal based stations would be welcome to carry Mitd, whats the white thing have to do with anything, it sounds like the op has a bit of a personal problem, let me give the op a bit of a heads up, "nobody cares".

Uncle Duke

Seems pretty straight forward, stations who think Art's show (or any show for that matter) will draw listeners, and therefore advertising dollars, will carry the program.  My guess is ratings show blacks don't listen to paranormal radio in sufficient numbers for a station that has a predominantly black audience to run the program.  The liberal part of the question can probably be explained by the fact conservative programming far exceeds liberal programming on talk radio.

ItsOver

One of the big stations to have picked-up MiTD is in Portland, Oregon.  Not what I would consider to be a bastion of conservatism.

The General

It's obviously because non-white, non-conservatives can't figure out how to work a radio.



That was a joke, no hate mail please.

Juan

I am amazed at how everything is now viewed through racial eyes.  I thought voting for Obama was to bring on a post-racial age. I recently saw a TV series on Hitler in which I was informed that the man's entire motivation was racism.

Quote from: Juan on July 28, 2015, 10:39:17 AM
I am amazed at how everything is now viewed through racial eyes. 


I typically view everything through bloodshot eyes.

AZ/CO

Quote from: Ultra_Infinite7 on July 28, 2015, 07:11:59 AM
This somewhat fascinates me, that most of the US radio market Art Bell/C2C syndicate their programs through mainly conservative radio stations (the same stations that play Rush Limbaugh, Mike Savage, Levin and others..).
One would think, that some of the topics Art Bell/C2C engages in, are somewhat universal topis that transcends politics. I've never heard of any so-called liberal stations carrying their programs, so why is that?  ;)

Just curious, which liberal radio stations are you referring to? 

DanTSX

It's very prejudiced to think that minorities don't, won't, or cannot listen to Art's show despite the other programming on the station.

It's kind of funny that somone who is stereotyping radio stations and their listenerbase is on some social justice warrior witchhunt where the only suitable answer is uncovered racism that everyone not black or on the Witchhunt will share in guilt by association.  Think about it.  Radio is a medium where you don't know the color. Creed, gender identity of the person you head unless they say it, or you apply your own prejudices.   Which one are you applying to determine what is black or white radio?


This is bullshit trolling.  Why don't you stop worrying about how many former slaver owners are listening to the show while wrapped up in the confederate flag while sitting on crates of ammo (protip:  it's 0) and enjoy the fucking show???



Why are there few black people playing fantasy video games?    Why are there so few black male feminists? 


#blacktimetravwleramatter.  (Coincidentally, Dr Ronald Mallet, who leads the field in time travel theory and is black, was on coast the other night).  Fucking crybabies. Go apply your outrage in somethinf that needs it instead of trying to assume you know what's best for blacks.

Eddie Coyle


   NPR and Pacifica sneer openly at Art Bell and his audience. Always have, always will.

Dyna-X

Talk radio in general has been for the last generation the domain of right-leaning or conservative politics.  When Art got into political talk he came in as a small 'l' libertarian - and libertarians find in general more favor with the right wing than liberals.  When he changed the format to the paranormal he was fairly alone in that, its not like today with perhaps dozens of broadcast paranormal and alternative news talk shows.

As for a "white conservative" that is just demographics. I'm sure there are still plenty of Black Conservatives and Hispanic Conservatives that listen in to conservative stations along with  listeners that are liberals and moderates of every color looking for a challenge on the air. Remember Art's old regular caller "Charlie Liberal ?"

DanTSX

Jesus dude there is a black guy in the Oval Office.


Let them make their own economic decisions to build their culture, and get your do-gooder nose out of it.


They are as capable as any of us.  Stop treating them like dumb plantation children.  Holy shit. They don't need you.

orangecat

The op's lingo sounds like snoory, the answer here is, yes the pyramids have something to do with it.

DanTSX

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on July 28, 2015, 11:05:31 AM
   NPR and Pacifica sneer openly at Art Bell and his audience. Always have, always will.

I'm not sure Art's audience is all that conservative these days as evidenced by the sample of leanings here.   I'm not sure Art is all that libertarian or right leaning either after his endorsements for Obama.

DanTSX

Quote from: orangecat on July 28, 2015, 11:21:08 AM
The op's lingo sounds like snoory, the answer here is, yes the pyramids have something to do with it.

Why are there no black Bigfoots?

Uncle Duke

This thread reminded me I've participated in the Arbitron radio ratings process a couple times, most recently maybe five years ago.  I'm trying to remember if they ask participants to identity their race.  Anyone done Arbitron lately?

orangecat

Quote from: DanTSX on July 28, 2015, 11:24:46 AM
Why are there no black Bigfoots?
Ill ask tommy while I figure out what I want for dinner tomorrow night.

scottydawg

Well I know from my friends that work in the Looney Bin, Ooops, sorry, Mental Health Center! That Jorch's Show is very popular with the paranoid/schizophrenics and the manic/depressives in the halls at night! :o 

chefist

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on July 28, 2015, 11:05:31 AM
   NPR and Pacifica sneer openly at Art Bell and his audience. Always have, always will.

So true...Art's show is FREE to broadcast now...any station can pick him up and air it out! Also, Art covers a lot of "New Age" and "Altered States" topics, those folks are almost always lefties...heck, the dude from Monday basically said he and aliens are commies! Also, Art is a strong advocate that global warming exists.  So your argument goes to my point, lefties are not as "open minded" as they portray themselves...and seem to always have an agenda, which is why this person made this ridiculous thread...

I smell a DaveBot...

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on July 28, 2015, 11:05:31 AM
   NPR and Pacifica sneer openly at Art Bell and his audience. Always have, always will.

This is pretty much it. The widespread snobbery of the current political left won't stand the discussion of such childish/problematic/however they want to dismiss it, issues. Art may as well be die hard religious radio to them.

And I say this as a clear political left leaner and a huge Art Bell fan.

I don't think Spanish stations would do well with Art... or they may do incredibly? I don't know.

albrecht

Unless you are in a foreign language pretty much the main SW broadcasting stations are mainly religious. Most AM stations have 'talk' and for whatever reason it tends to side with conservative hosts or sports (probably the type of people listening to AM during the day or night are 'working' people, truckers, farmers, etc so might lean that way?) FM is mainly music and NPR. NPR likes to pride itself as being intellectual, progressive/leftist, and high-class and would think topics like the paranormal would be beneath them or under-cut their credibility as a government mouthpiece. The non-talk and non-music and non-NPR are in Spanish. (Though I did email some of those during The Blitz. The ownership isn't Spanish and many of them switched to Mexican music etc due to the amount of illegals coming over. But still not sure the smaller stations, esp AM, get that much listenership. So why switch format again, at least during those hours, and put Art on?)



DanTSX

Quote from: henge0stone on July 28, 2015, 05:16:27 PM
Are there black conservative radio stations?


Alan Keyes had a radio show for almost a decade.

Rush's producer is a Basketball American.

Not sure what constitutes a "black" or "conservative" station.  I think black folks might have their own ideas without us attempting to define what it is to them.

onan

Quote from: DanTSX on July 28, 2015, 05:54:21 PM

Alan Keyes had a radio show for almost a decade.

Rush's producer is a Basketball American.

Not sure what constitutes a "black" or "conservative" station.  I think black folks might have their own ideas without us attempting to define what it is to them.

One of my closest friends, the best man at my wedding is black and one of the most conservative minded people I know.

(yes I realize this is a I have a black friend statement.)

Juan

Not a station, but Herman Cain has a talk show syndicated by Cox Broadcasting. It looks like more than 200-stations.

DanTSX

Only liberals who think they know everything, think they know how all Black people think.......


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