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[Lilith]

Dan Carlin of "Hardcore History" fame http://www.dancarlin.com/ has put forth an odd case.

In the preamble to his series Wrath of the Khans he makes the case for writing a book that is pro Nazi and compares it to all the history books that praise the Mongols for unifying various territories. While in today's world, the idea of writing the pro Natzi book is at best problematic it will be written some day he says. The difference between the two is mainly the passage of time.

He of course is not pro Nazi but considering some of the recent discussions here I thought his brief comment apt.  He says it much better than I can here.

Fortunately he has that series and much, much more up for free right now at http://www.dancarlin.com/hardcore-history-series/

If anybody lurking likes good audio entertainment and shows like the History Channel and Discover used to be, you'll probably like Dan Carlin

Thanks Ciardelo!  I will listen as soon as I finish OSOMs A Very Hoagie Christmas.   I forgot about lunch today, and one of my friends called to remind me...so I am just now on my way the the OSOM thread.  TTYAll Later

MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE!!!

[Jackstar]

Correction: I bought seven oz of coffee, and all my coffeemakers are dusty. Discuss.

[WhiteCrow]

Well, Thanks!  but as I have said, I'm not trying to change anyones mind, I was just sharing mine. 

All is good dear readers of Bell-Haven.. brig and I will always be 'real' friends.. and we both know, that friends don't have to agree about everything.

Merry Christmas to ALL..

Love Art..  Praise MV..   Adore Heather

[WhiteCrow]

Correction: I bought seven oz of coffee, and all my coffeemakers are dusty. Discuss.

Do you have a personal donation clicky anywhere on the net?

[Jackstar]

Do you have a personal donation clicky anywhere on the net?

That's a negative, Ghost Rider.

What are you implying?

[Dr. MD MD]

Enough with all that, WTH happened to the Bills?

This may explain:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NyhAJEPEHk4

[serenity]

Just a reminder, besides my very best wishes you all on this Christmas eve, The only gift I can offer besides my sometimes droll patter in the thread, is A Very Serenity Christmas today at 3 central, 4 eastern 1 pacific. Its not much but was crafted from my heart to each and every one of yours. May it give you a smile and a small respite from the holiday hustle and bustle for a brief time.

Merry Christmas my friends

[WhiteCrow]

That's a negative, Ghost Rider.

What are you implying?

Not implying my dear friend.. If you have a NEED for a coffee fix? Let me help you satisfy it. 

[GravitySucks]

Not implying my dear friend.. If you have a NEED for a coffee fix? Let me help you satisfy it.

Sounds like he needs a dust rag

[Lilith]

Just a reminder, besides my very best wishes you all on this Christmas eve, The only gift I can offer besides my sometimes droll patter in the thread, is A Very Serenity Christmas today at 3 central, 4 eastern 1 pacific. Its not much but was crafted from my heart to each and every one of yours. May it give you a smile and a small respite from the holiday hustle and bustle for a brief time.

Merry Christmas my friends

4 Eastern it IS!  Got my alarm set!  Wouldn't miss it serenity!  Means a LOT to me, Thank You!   

Merry Christmas, and really, I hope you have a wonderful day EVERY day!

[Lilith]

This may explain:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NyhAJEPEHk4

Well,  There ya go!  That 'splains EVERYTHING!  Good Find Dr. MD MD!!!   

[Lilith]

Correction: I bought seven oz of coffee, and all my coffeemakers are dusty. Discuss.

No worries Jackstar.  I just made a fresh pot, it's on the counter.
Family Restaurant Brand I think.

[nbirnes]

4 Eastern it IS!  Got my alarm set!  Wouldn't miss it serenity!  Means a LOT to me, Thank You!   

Merry Christmas, and really, I hope you have a wonderful day EVERY day!

Me, too! Still up to my elbows in ricotta, but I really look forward to hearing you, Serenity! Is it AM or PM? Either way ...

Happy Happy day (before) !

[nbirnes]

No worries Jackstar.  I just made a fresh pot, it's on the counter.
Family Restaurant Brand I think.

Brig, you are looking very fancy today! And welcome back to Jackstar! Fondest memories ...

[Lilith]

Me, too! Still up to my elbows in ricotta, but I really look forward to hearing you, Serenity! Is it AM or PM? Either way ...

Happy Happy day (before) !

Awesome Sauce!!  We can listen together 

edited to add:  This afternoon methinks.

[Lilith]

Brig, you are looking very fancy today! And welcome back to Jackstar! Fondest memories ...

Yeah, makes me feel all nostalgic and weepy.......so much has happened since then.  I heard him on the air, when MV decided to go and unban him from bellgab.  I remember I smiled 


Praise MV!

[WhiteCrow]

Sounds like he needs a dust rag

Some times the simple FIX  is beyond my comprehension. Throw some money at the problem is offen the one sided solution.

[GravitySucks]

Some times the simple FIX  is beyond my comprehension. Throw some money at the problem is offen the one sided solution.

I hear ya big guy. Hope you and Mrs Crow have a Merry Christmas.

[serenity]

Me, too! Still up to my elbows in ricotta, but I really look forward to hearing you, Serenity! Is it AM or PM? Either way ...

Happy Happy day (before) !

PM of course dear one. BTW you are allowed to laugh. 

[GravitySucks]

PM of course dear one. BTW you are allowed to laugh. 

Please post the link so I don't have to look it up.

Thanks in advance.

[Lilith]

Dan Carlin of "Hardcore History" fame http://www.dancarlin.com/ has put forth an odd case.

In the preamble to his series Wrath of the Khans he makes the case for writing a book that is pro Nazi and compares it to all the history books that praise the Mongols for unifying various territories. While in today's world, the idea of writing the pro Natzi book is at best problematic it will be written some day he says. The difference between the two is mainly the passage of time.

He of course is not pro Nazi but considering some of the recent discussions here I thought his brief comment apt.  He says it much better than I can here.

Fortunately he has that series and much, much more up for free right now at http://www.dancarlin.com/hardcore-history-series/

If anybody lurking likes good audio entertainment and shows like the History Channel and Discover used to be, you'll probably like Dan Carlin

Ok, so a Very Hoagie Christmas wasn't so Christmas after all   Listening to Dan Carlin till serenitys special comes on! 

[GravitySucks]

Ok, so a Very Hoagie Christmas wasn't so Christmas after all   Listening to Dan Carlin till serenitys special comes on! 

Wrath of Khan is pretty gory Brig. Lots of violence back in those days.

[Ciardelo]

Ok, so a Very Hoagie Christmas wasn't so Christmas after all   Listening to Dan Carlin till serenitys special comes on! 

Great! I learned about him on the forums, not here in Bella-Haven though. Quite possibly it might have been GS talking about him one day though

[GravitySucks]

Please post the link so I don't have to look it up.

Thanks in advance.

Found it.

[serenity]

Found it.

This says it all

[Jackstar]

I'm just going to get a new coffee machine, and ban all the old ones, for they hath displeased me.

"Merry Christmas! Into the trash!"

[GravitySucks]

This says it all

Hehehe

[Ciardelo]

The Wrath of the Khans is pretty gory Brig. Lots of violence back in those days.

I think she can handle it

[GravitySucks]

I think she can handle it

Yeah, its not a gross as the one he did on polygamists in Germany

[Dr. MD MD]

Well,  There ya go!  That 'splains EVERYTHING!  Good Find Dr. MD MD!!!   

Seriously, I almost think it has to be something like this because they so often get so close and then it all just vaporizes as they approach the finish line. What are the odds of this sustained pattern?! I'm thinking somewhere in lottery win territory. Gotta be a smoking man somewhere who hates Buffalo