George Knapp

[zeebo]

George Knapp truly sucked in this show.
Not only was he not skeptical in the least, faced with this obvious bullshit from Mulva, he even supported and defended all her bullshit.
This was a "I'm just doing my job" broadcast. Even Noory would have been better, and a lot funnier.
Maybe Knapp should retire, the guy is just carrying the water for bullshit now.

These kinds of reactions always crack me up - dude, it's a fringe show about fringe topics.  The host has to play along with it to some extent or else the show is dead in the water.  It's not Frontline or NOVA or C-SPAN.  It's a show about bigfoots and ufos and ghosts - hardcore journalistic rigor is not really apropos - it's all about the fun of speculation.  You're right about Noory though, he is funnier, unintentionally of course.

[rzr1911]

I imagine Knapp was pretty pissed that his second guest went AWOL and he had to deal with Ketchum the whole evening. So I forgive him for the lame show. Sure it's not a science show, but he still should have poked Ketchum a little bit more. I'd have poked this fraud to the point where she'd hang up and leave, and then make open lines.

[zeebo]

I imagine Knapp was pretty pissed that his second guest went AWOL and he had to deal with Ketchum the whole evening. So I forgive him for the lame show. Sure it's not a science show, but he still should have poked Ketchum a little bit more - unless he was afraid she'd be gone too and he would have to make a show all by himself. Maybe that would have been better.

Yep she was a dud after the first hour - he should have just dumped her and gone to open lines.  That could have been fun just to see what happened.

[rzr1911]

These kinds of reactions always crack me up - dude, it's a fringe show about fringe topics.  The host has to play along with it to some extent or else the show is dead in the water.

It doesn't mean I need to listen to obvious bullshit, but If they have an obvious scammer guest they should at least make the most fun of it as possible. I'd rather have a funny show and a guest who possibly wont come back than 3 boring hours of this crazy ass woman. Frankly, I don't care if a bad guest like this wont come back. I don't care to listen to her. All she did was find excuses for everything.
Also, there's a ton of subjects and guest for the type of show that isn't obvious bullshit.

[albrecht]

Even Melba and Knapp couldn't deal with frequently caller "Will from Madison" (or is it "Bill") with his Finno-Ugric theories, especially when he starts in on white discrimination in past history (I also hadn't heard the idea that the Russians shipped out all the "tall blondes" from Estonia , I know there were lots of deportations, sent to gulags, etc post-WWII but never heard that they singled out "tall blondes"- however it would not surprise me since Germany was doing the "opposite" in their racial cleansing and the Slavs certainly wanted revenge. Interesting Estonia, and other Baltics, are now criticized for mistreating the Russian minorities now. Some regions seem to be eternally screwed up, like the Balkans, being caught between bigger powers and ethnic groups.)

The man has a one-track mind but I actually wouldn't mind hearing him given a full chance for his theories. It is an interesting phenomena how the Finnish people got to where they are and speak a language so far different than their Scandinavian/Germanic neighbors. Pre-Clovis culture and the Soulutrean Hypothesis would be an interesting show.

[zeebo]

...Pre-Clovis culture and the Soulutrean Hypothesis would be an interesting show.

I don't know what this is, and yet for some reason I agree with you.

[albrecht]

I don't know what this is, and yet for some reason I agree with you.

Sort of similar, with more scientific rather than awesome bravado and testing, of Heyerdahl's theories. Basically, the Solutrean Hypothesis thinks that some initial migration came from Europe, mainly Iberian Peninsula, to the "New Word" prior to the "Indians" that came across the Bering Straits. This is due to some odd finds of similar primitive tools (Clovis points) and skeletons.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solutrean_hypothesis
But actually a show on any of this would be interesting:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clovis_culture#Evidence_of_human_habitation_before_Clovis

[rzr1911]

Pre-Clovis culture and the Soulutrean Hypothesis would be an interesting show.

yes that would be great. please write it in the "Topics you want Art to cover..." thread.
Dennis Stanford as a guest would rock.

[Mind Flayer Monk]

This is due to some odd finds of similar primitive tools (Clovis points) and skeletons.

That clears things up. I thought you were talking about a Harley Davidson rally.

[albrecht]

That clears things up. I thought you were talking about a Harley Davidson rally.

And the "Clovis Points" were named such after discovery near Clovis, New Mexico....which was (re)named after a Frankish king Clovis I because the station's master daughter was reading about him....bringing the European origin of at least the name, not necessarily the ancient culture, full circle.

Never been to a rally there but did go to Sturgis rally once. The Bad Lands are impressive. Can be hot. I went through Sturgis once to the rally. Inadvertently, decades ago, on a long drive with no a/c (free ice water at Wall Drug!), in a station wagon, with family. Bikers aint as "bad" as you think though, admittedly, I didn't stick around or go to the bars. But interesting how many bikers I saw at other national parks, museums, Indian Res, etc all along that drive. Wondered why, then figured it out.
-GNS

[Nebraska888]

These kinds of reactions always crack me up - dude, it's a fringe show about fringe topics.  The host has to play along with it to some extent or else the show is dead in the water.  It's not Frontline or NOVA or C-SPAN.  It's a show about bigfoots and ufos and ghosts - hardcore journalistic rigor is not really apropos - it's all about the fun of speculation.  You're right about Noory though, he is funnier, unintentionally of course.

Excellent!   

[Nebraska888]

Me, too.  Knapp is interested in so many topics and has a large world view, meaning he can take on whatever needs taking on.  Love that man. 

Me too! 

[albrecht]

Me too!

And he knows how to redirect a wayward guest back onto topic without a ridiculous break or re-questions (or the generic Norry get-out-of-jail card: "how do you do what you do?") And also let just enough leash to callers also to, sometimes, get some interesting questions out of them (even in this day of C2C callers.) He will never be as funny as Norry and I admit I love the highlights posted of Norry inanity but he is a much better interviewer who, unlike Ian, puts up with a bit "more" from guests and callers but with questioning and is polite (I like Ian also though.) He knows, as a real reporter, people hang themselves by letting them talk. And seems to have some interest in subjects, guests, and even callers. I can't wait for Art to be back though. I will still listen to Knapp and he, Bateman, Hughes, and Ian should be fill-in hosts.

[Scully]

Isn't it interesting how different people can listen to the same show and have completely different reactions to it?  I'm aware that Melba Ketchum has a lot of bad press going on and she may be a total fraud, but I thought Knapp's giving her the benefit of the doubt gave her a chance more than a few times to make me wonder, just a little bit, how much of what she claims is true.

It seemed obvious, too, that Knapp was pretty darn disgusted with the second guest's no-show, and I felt sorry for him having to make do with what he had.  I agreed with him that since he had plenty of callers lined up still wanting to talk/argue with Ketchum, it would have been a shame to do a Noory and just go to those omphen lines. 

Some people have talent.  Some people don't.  Some people like to dilly-dally with the "what-ifs" of the far out, and some people want just meat and potatoes on their plate.

It's all good.   

[rzr1911]

Isn't it interesting how different people can listen to the same show and have completely different reactions to it?

I fell asleep while listening. Maybe I missed the exciting part.

[Jorch Einstein]

Melba Ketchup does a good job damaging her credibility on her own, with her talk of dog-men and the Nephilim. Maybe she's come across some lizard-man flesh and can do some DNA analysis of that too? And what about the hog-squatch? Or the hog-lizard-man? Is she doing DNA testing on those samples too? Inquiring minds want to know.

[Scully]

Melba Ketchup does a good job damaging her credibility on her own, with her talk of dog-men and the Nephilim. Maybe she's come across some lizard-man flesh and can do some DNA analysis of that too? And what about the hog-squatch? Or the hog-lizard-man? Is she doing DNA testing on those samples too? Inquiring minds want to know.

Knapp is the one who has told the dogmen-smoking-cigarettes story more than once. He admits, though, that it was left out of his Skinwalker Ranch book because it stretched credulity so far. (Not because he didn't consider the source of the story a seemingly credible source.)

The nephilim is well-known woo-woo-speak.

There are other shows to listen to if one doesn't want to entertain the possibility of events that depart the norm.   

[Jorch Einstein]

Knapp is the one who has told the dogmen-smoking-cigarettes story more than once. He admits, though, that it was left out of his Skinwalker Ranch book because it stretched credulity so far. (Not because he didn't consider the source of the story a seemingly credible source.)

The nephilim is well-known woo-woo-speak.

There are other shows to listen to if one doesn't want to entertain the possibility of events that depart the norm.   

Yeah, I know, but when someone like Melba Ketchup tries to present herself as a credible scientist, doing legitimate scientific research, things just go completely off the rails when she starts talking about dog-men and The Nephilim and ridiculous stuff.

[Scully]

Yeah, I know, but when someone like Melba Ketchup tries to present herself as a credible scientist, doing legitimate scientific research, things just go completely off the rails when she starts talking about dog-men and The Nephilim and ridiculous stuff.

I understand your reasoning.  I guess I just suspend belief when the guests are not really hurting anyone with their stories.  It's the ones who tell people to throw away their meds and dig bunkers in their backyards and load up on ammunition to keep the neighbors away from their 25-yr dried food stocks that bring out the crusader in me. Some of them are also medical doctors and other "professionals." 

[dan7800]

Other than Youtube, is there a resource for Knapp shows? I find him to be a decent host worth listening to, possibly the only one on C2C.

[DanTSX]

These kinds of reactions always crack me up - dude, it's a fringe show about fringe topics.  The host has to play along with it to some extent or else the show is dead in the water.  It's not Frontline or NOVA or C-SPAN.  It's a show about bigfoots and ufos and ghosts - hardcore journalistic rigor is not really apropos - it's all about the fun of speculation.  You're right about Noory though, he is funnier, unintentionally of course.

Yup.

[rzr1911]

Melba Ketchup does a good job damaging her credibility on her own, with her talk of dog-men and the Nephilim.

I never heard about dogmen, unfortunately. The Nephilim have never been debunked though. Would be a bit hard to do.

[Nebraska888]

Yup.

I'm with Dan and Zeeb!   

You want straight news stories.......go to.....uhmmmm....well.......good luck with that.  Anyway, Coast is SUPPOSED to delve into the weird, strange, wild, and wacky!

[21st Century Man]

Good show with Schraeder tonight on his darkness radio show.  Guest is Ron Morehead.  Has had all sorts of experiences with Bigfoot.  Even recorded voices.  I would love to hear him interviewed by Knapp.  He is probably the most credible Bigfoot researcher that I have heard on the radio. He's apparently been out there researching since the 70's.

[MrHippie]

George Knapp is always professional and prepared. I was able to hear parts of his Sat and Sun shows on the air for the 2 previous weekends and I was reminded of this   ......... " Wanna' Take A Ride " 

The investigation of the Priest who was convicted of murdering  the Nun was classic old school C2CAM. Creepy and illuminating at the same time.
I enjoyed the Star Wars author. Interesting and funny.
David Paulides should have helped locate the missing guest on Dr. Melba's night. But I thought George Knapp pulled it together as best as possible.

Hey G.K. ... Keep the faith baby.

[21st Century Man]

No offense to Knapp but I can't say I'm going to listen tonight. Too tired for one thing.  I've been up since yesterday.  And well, The Grateful Dead, is not my bag. I never understood the fascination with the Dead and I have a pretty broad taste in music.

[aldousburbank]

No offense to Knapp but I can't say I'm going to listen tonight. Too tired for one thing.  I've been up since yesterday.  And well, The Grateful Dead, is not my bag. I never understood the fascination with the Dead and I have a pretty broad taste in music.

I felt the same way, until about my third show. I think it mostly had to do with the acid.

[Humilia Lepus Foramen]

^Yeah that band is before my time, I don't get it either.  For me the same can be said about many pop culture icons so obviously I'm the odd one out here The first half guest does sound like a good listen though.  Interesting the split show format is slowly but surely infiltrating the weekend shows too.  Hopefully that doesn't happen too often, especially since unlike some hosts, Knapp does have the attention span to do a full four hour show with one guest, like he did with Paulides.

[zeebo]

...The Grateful Dead, is not my bag. I never understood the fascination with the Dead and I have a pretty broad taste in music.

I don't listen to them any more, and actually found the whole subculture surrounding them kind of a turn-off - the fascination for me was purely in their improvisational intrepidness.  For instance, once back in the mid-80's I saw them three nights in a row, and each show was almost completely different.  Different songs, different vibe, jamming happening in different ways etc. 

It wasn't like seeing a pre-packaged polished show that's so common these days.  You just never knew what might happen.  Sometimes they were duds, the guys sang off-tune, or they forgot lyrics, or had a weak songlist etc. .. but they made up for it by often going into interesting, creative directions, weaving through various influences from folk to roots to blues to rock etc., and occasionally really reaching something quite special. 

I remember once in a fairly mellow show, when they covered All Along the Watchtower, and Jerry, out of nowhere, just friggin went total rock god crazy for like ten minutes and I just stood there slack-jawed, amazed that I'd just heard this soaring, transcendent solo from a guy who'd earlier been lazily strumming some bluegrass-style tune.

[Beelzebubbelah]

No offense to Knapp but I can't say I'm going to listen tonight. Too tired for one thing.  I've been up since yesterday.  And well, The Grateful Dead, is not my bag. I never understood the fascination with the Dead and I have a pretty broad taste in music.

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'Allo!!
Still with you.
Not an "Dead-Head".
Believe that boomer 'ROCK'is like an vampire meme that must be buried with an steak through its' heart.
ONLY exceptions are the few that grew out of the hybrid british invasion & manifested the dark side of the farce.
PLUS,"Progressive" mixed pretentious neo-klassic and "Kraut-rock".
The 'Dead'was an interesting experiment that got trapped by its'own public relations machine.
The'Bete Noir'slash Zombie/vampirist point was reached when they allowed the under-ground ralph ginsburgh(sp.)Magazine to print the arty photos censored from the second lp cover of the entire clan at Joshua Tree camp-out in Au Natural.
Dichotomy between the amazeing primal acid blues of the lp and the really grotesque bodies of the families just offended me for no specific.
Photos on super-grain arty b&w. Recording film not air-brushed=grotty.
After that,even"Live Dead"version of"Dark Star"in sound-Track of film amazeing long follow shot of surfing kosmonaut sequence didn't over-power my disqust.
"B_B"
PS:Can't remember name of large-format Art Zine published and suppressed in late '60's of Ralph Ginzberg.(sp.)
PPS:Still looking at the back-story of the Laurel Canyon Krowd's dark moments.
Hope to find more on obscure connects of"Hillside Laboratory" & occult scenes.