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George Knapp

Started by ArtBellFan, April 27, 2008, 08:05:01 AM

Morgus

Quote from: Rocker107 on June 30, 2013, 11:07:38 PM
I'm glad that if at least Ian is not going to be on Sunday night anymore, Knapp is taking his place. Seems like an even trade.
Don't think that has been confirmed yet.
More likely John B. Wells will take over Ian's second Sunday of the month slot as he took over Ian's weekly Sat night slot before...

Quote from: Georgie For President 2216 on July 01, 2013, 12:39:30 AM
Knapp just noted Noory's often mentioned interview of Jimmy Hoffa right before his death, and proposed that Noory should provide more details about that interview.


Here's a detail:  it almost certainly didn't happen.    George seems very careful to mostly brag and make claims about things that can't be disproved.

Eddie Coyle

Quote from: Paper*Boy on July 01, 2013, 01:13:42 AM


Here's a detail:  it almost certainly didn't happen.    George seems very careful to mostly brag and make claims about things that can't be disproved.
It proves Hoffa is dead, though. Because if he were alive and heard Noory telling that tale, he'd find an outlet to call bullshit on it.

WOTR


Another solid show by Knapp.  The fact that the guy can make light pollution interesting says it all (or maybe it is just the fact that I miss seeing the stars at home and dislike having to travel to get a good view.)

Quote from: Georgie For President 2216 on July 01, 2013, 12:39:30 AM
Knapp just noted Noory's often mentioned interview of Jimmy Hoffa right before his death, and proposed that Noory should provide more details about that interview.
I caught that and was thinking that Knapp was just playing a little and taunting Noory.  I could almost hear poor Knapp cringe as he took the callers.  The guy from California who the screener must have told him had an interesting story who just wanted to ramble about some mobster who used an ice pick and killed some other guy in some town for some reason... Just painful and you could picture George asking himself why he bothers to open it up to callers at all anymore.  I feel pretty certain that the other caller was correct about how the JFK killers were paid off.  It was in heroine because that is just the kind of person you hire and how you pay them.  You could give them a few bricks of $100 bills with no risk or a bag of heroine and hope they do not get caught trying to sell it and roll over...

ItsOver

Quote from: Morgus on July 01, 2013, 01:02:13 AM
Don't think that has been confirmed yet.
More likely John B. Wells will take over Ian's second Sunday of the month slot as he took over Ian's weekly Sat night slot before...


You're probably correct, Morgus, about Wells taking over the spot.  Unfortunately.  :(   With the PremRat regime, it's more likely Knapp will be next off the sinking ship of C2C.  If Art wanted to make a little more dough, he should set-up his own show with hosts such as Knapp and some other qualified hosts doing the slots during the week and Art doing a Saturday or Sunday night show.  It's always nice to dream. 

Here in Eastern PA last night, a severe storm  knocked off power. Isn't it funny when power goes out, you wake up? regardless.. my family still stayed asleep. I woke up and tuned in (on an old static-filled radio non less) to George Knapp. The 'light' guy in the first hour was pretty interesting. Something you don't often think about.. then off to the tales of the mob and crime.. Knapp has a knack for making all topics interesting, and he certainly has a good BS meter (though we can debate his love of the Bigfoot rumors.. )
Storms.. lightning.. and George Knapp on radio. There was something pretty damn cool about it..


And I went back to bed around 3am wondering why in the hell anyone, ANYWHERE, would think George Noory has any talent or gift of radio?


And beyond that.. I am so 'over' John Wells at this point. He has a UFO topic but somehow that equals the liberals doing something awry..


If Knapp ever makes a jump and leaves Coast to Coast AM I think most of the true Art Bell fans will go with him.. and the dumbed down masses can have Noory's nonsense questions and musical specials on holidays.
Sad.


ItsOver

I recorded the show last night on my pseudo-ipod and am looking forward to listening to it.  I'll be interested in the light pollution segment.  Decades ago, I made a road trip to the middle-of-nowhere Big Bend section of west Texas.  We drove all night and arrived in the area an hour or so before sunrise.  It was jaw-dropping when we got out of the car and saw the clear night sky jam-packed with visible stars, including the Milky Way.  It literally felt as if we were suspended in the middle of the Universe, floating in a sea of stars.  Beautiful.  When the sun came up, it looked like we had indeed traveled on a star ship to Altair IV ... completely surrounded by "magnificent desolation." 

BobGrau

Quote from: ItsOver on July 01, 2013, 05:25:35 AM
I recorded the show last night on my pseudo-ipod and am looking forward to listening to it.  I'll be interested in the light pollution segment.  Decades ago, I made a road trip to the middle-of-nowhere Big Bend section of west Texas.  We drove all night and arrived in the area an hour or so before sunrise.  It was jaw-dropping when we got out of the car and saw the clear night sky jam-packed with visible stars, including the Milky Way.  It literally felt as if we were suspended in the middle of the Universe, floating in a sea of stars.  Beautiful.  When the sun came up, it looked like we had indeed traveled on a star ship to Altair IV ... completely surrounded by "magnificent desolation."

How fast did you go?

ItsOver

Thanks, Jorch.  ;)  Please stick to crooning.

VtaGeezer

Quote from: ItsOver on July 01, 2013, 05:25:35 AM
I recorded the show last night on my pseudo-ipod and am looking forward to listening to it.  I'll be interested in the light pollution segment.  Decades ago, I made a road trip to the middle-of-nowhere Big Bend section of west Texas.  We drove all night and arrived in the area an hour or so before sunrise.  It was jaw-dropping when we got out of the car and saw the clear night sky jam-packed with visible stars, including the Milky Way.  It literally felt as if we were suspended in the middle of the Universe, floating in a sea of stars.  Beautiful.  When the sun came up, it looked like we had indeed traveled on a star ship to Altair IV ... completely surrounded by "magnificent desolation."
Here in N Az at 4500 feet elevation, we see that spectacular show most nights. ;D   The biggest political fight here in years was over installing street lights vs town's "dark sky" designation.

valdez

     A while back, truthseeker and paranormal crooner, George Noory, was talking to someone about bigfoot and said he really didn't want to get to the bottom of this issue because it would "take the fun out of it."  Last night Knapp said that after listening to Charles Brandt, the final fate of Jimmy Hoffa would be revealed.  Thank you, Mr. Knapp, for not being afraid to drive a stake into the heart of mysteries.  There's nothing wrong with "fun," but when it stands in the way of truth we've got a problem.
 
shot twice and cremated...finito

onan

Quote from: valdez on July 01, 2013, 02:55:33 PM
     A while back, truthseeker and paranormal crooner, George Noory, was talking to someone about bigfoot and said he really didn't want to get to the bottom of this issue because it would "take the fun out of it."  Last night Knapp said that after listening to Charles Brandt, the final fate of Jimmy Hoffa would be revealed.  Thank you, Mr. Knapp, for not being afraid to drive a stake into the heart of mysteries.  There's nothing wrong with "fun," but when it stands in the way of truth we've got a problem.


I know this is the G knapp thread, but noory's statement about taking the fun out of it, presupposes he doesn't believe. That is fine but it does show a basic level of deceit, even to himself. With the added benefit of sounding professorial. In reality, if big foot were real... could there be more fun than that? I make no bones here, to me big foot is a fantasy right along side the tooth fairy. But for george to imply some impartiality with his statement is one more piece of evidence of what a dick he is.

Quote from: onan on July 01, 2013, 03:17:54 PM

I know this is the G knapp thread, but noory's statement about taking the fun out of it, presupposes he doesn't believe. That is fine but it does show a basic level of deceit, even to himself. With the added benefit of sounding professorial. In reality, if big foot were real... could there be more fun than that? I make no bones here, to me big foot is a fantasy right along side the tooth fairy. But for george to imply some impartiality with his statement is one more piece of evidence of what a dick he is.


Besides that, George is the one that took 'the fun' out of all these topics anyway.

ItsOver

Quote from: Paper*Boy on July 01, 2013, 05:54:26 PM


Besides that, George is the one that took 'the fun' out of all these topics anyway.


Absolutely.  Jorch just sleeps through each C2C show, regardless of the topic, but especially the paranormal... going through the motions, at best.  Throw in the guest du noir, let him/her ramble on for awhile, throw-out some hack, elementary, pre-formulated questions, and either flush the guest down the toilet early or trudge along until he can spin UFO Phil and head out the door to the nearest Stop'N Go.  Jorch feels he's doing his job by just showing-up and keeping his chair warm.  Oh, "...And no fuss'n or fight'n allowed, either..."


Sure, the paranormal stuff is probably ALL a bunch of nothing but it's suppose to be entertainment, a mystery, not a third rate snore fest.  Art knew how to build, spin, and play virtually any show's topic, just like the good storyteller at the late night campfire, as many have noted.  Jorch may get how to play the PremRat corporate game but he just doesn't get the magic hosting ability of somebody such as Art Bell.  And Jorch could care less, as long the the PremRat suits are happy and that paycheck keeps on coming.


Welcome to stale Wonder Bread radio.

Eddie Coyle

 
          Listened to the Knapp interview last night, and came to the same conclusion I had after I read "I Heard You Paint Houses" nearly a decade ago. Sheeran was full of shit. Tony Provenzano wouldn't use him for such a hit. No way.

           Sheeran also claimed to have killed Joey Gallo at Umberto's in Little Italy. Which is an even bigger fib that his Hoffa tale.

I have a hypothesis.  After George Noory interviewed Jimmy Hoffa, he completely misrepresented something Hoffa had said while reporting on it later.  Whatever George said, it would be completely obvious to everyone but him that it would infuriate the Mafia   After hearing the piece, the Mafia ordered an immediate hit on Hoffa based on George's misinformation.

Juan

Quote from: Georgie For President 2216 on July 02, 2013, 12:40:55 AM
I have a hypothesis.  After George Noory interviewed Jimmy Hoffa, he completely misrepresented something Hoffa had said while reporting on it later.  Whatever George said, it would be completely obvious to everyone but him that it would infuriate the Mafia   After hearing the piece, the Mafia ordered an immediate hit on Hoffa based on George's misinformation.
It actually makes sense.

ItsOver

Quote from: UFO Fill on July 02, 2013, 03:20:28 AM
It actually makes sense.


It does.  ;D   You never know who could be the next victim of Noory's incompetence.  Keep looking over your shoulder, Tommy. 


Hoagland should be safe, though, since I doubt even the Mafia can make any sense of what's going on there.

b_dubb

Quote from: HorrorReporter on July 01, 2013, 05:06:45 AM

If Knapp ever makes a jump and leaves Coast to Coast AM I think most of the true Art Bell fans will go with him.. and the dumbed down masses can have Noory's nonsense questions and musical specials on holidays.
Sad.
not the dumbed down masses. the mentally ill. who typically suffer from insomnia. This is what pisses me off most about Coast. they're making the situation worse for these people

b_dubb

Quote from: valdez on July 01, 2013, 02:55:33 PM
     A while back, truthseeker and paranormal crooner,
did you mean paranormal "coroner"?

CampsieNP

Based on Knapp's excellent interview, I went out and got Charles Brandt's book "I Heard You Paint Houses: Frank Sheeran Story".
I highly recommend this book. I think the author makes the case that Sheeran did the hit.

And of course, GN has never compelled me to read anything based on any crap interview he did.
I really like George Knapp.

I really hate the argument that understanding the facts behind a situation somehow takes the fun out of it. Ignorance shows through with a statement like that when you consider all of the new questions (ie, more fun) that becomes available for inquiry when you make a bit of headway on a problem. Like all good mysteries, the resolution will likely not tie up all the loose ends but leave room for more speculation anyway.

A great example of this was from an interview with Richard Feynman. Feynman related the example of an artist friend who had the opinion that science ruins the beauty of the natural world. The counter argument is that the more you know about a flower the more you can learn about bees, who must see colors because they are attracted to the colors of the flower. The questions and insights get more interesting (fun) with each clue we discover, not less.

Sadly that's how George wants his investigation to end, always spinning wheels over the same dirt with nothing new ever uncovered. This is the essence of the show under George. It's too bad.

And, since it's inevitable this will come up, let me go ahead and post it before anyone else:
http://youtu.be/_-agl0pOQfs

Eddie Coyle

 
         Saint John Hunt really is his father's son. I feel bad for Knapp tonight, this guy is talking a ton without saying a goddamn thing...and just did the "don't want to give anything for readers" trick again. Don't worry Johnny, you probably ain't given away shit in your life.

It's hard to trust someone who hems and haws so many times over the course of each sentence.

Scully

My assessment was that the guest was totally valiumed up tonight.  He seemed totally unaware of any constriction of airtime at all. 

But then the guy's been through a very distressing childhood -- starting when his parents named him "Saint John," definitely one of the hardest names I can imagine for a kid to live with.

Juan

I was surprised that neither George nor St. John had heard of Dr. Peter Beter, whom a caller mentioned.  Of course, Dr. Beter died in 1987,  so maybe that's why.  Back in the 70s, Beter wrote a book that claimed the Rockefeller family, the "Bolshevic-Zionist" axis and the Kremlin were trying to destroy the US dollar.  He also claimed that there was no longer any gold in Ft. Knox.  That claim drew so much attention, Ft. Knox had the press in to photograph the gold.   He left behind 80-audio newsletters in which he outlines his various conspiracy theories.  He was the son of Lebanese immigrants, so maybe George can have Joshua P. Warren or someone channel him.

Sardondi

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on July 22, 2013, 01:24:53 AMSaint John Hunt really is his father's son. I feel bad for Knapp tonight, this guy is talking a ton without saying a goddamn thing...and just did the "don't want to give anything for readers" trick again. Don't worry Johnny, you probably ain't given away shit in your life.
Quote from: Scully on July 22, 2013, 02:23:16 AM...But then the guy's been through a very distressing childhood -- starting when his parents named him "Saint John," definitely one of the hardest names I can imagine for a kid to live with.
Okay, he was called "Saint John", right? So what is it with the British pronouncing that name "Sin-Jin"?

Eddie Coyle

Quote from: Sardondi on July 22, 2013, 01:05:41 PM
Okay, he was called "Saint John", right? So what is it with the British pronouncing that name "Sin-Jin"?
I can only imagine the pomposity this creature must possess by merely keeping that name. For 60 years. Hell, I would have been Jackie or Johnny by the time I was 5. No Saint in me.

Morgus

Quote from: Sardondi on July 22, 2013, 01:05:41 PM
Okay, he was called "Saint John", right? So what is it with the British pronouncing that name "Sin-Jin"?
thats what i remember from the James Bond movie "View from a kill" when Roger Moore used an alias of Saint John Smithe

Quote from: Morgus on July 22, 2013, 01:19:54 PM
thats what i remember from the James Bond movie "View from a kill" when Roger Moore used an alias of Saint John Smithe

http://youtu.be/Z4gPBO0CM78

I guess Saint John and Sin Jin sound pretty similar with a British accent.

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