George Knapp

[fysisist]

She was talking about drug experiences and frankly sounded like she was on something during the show.... NOT compelling radio.
And as for Col. John-- to hear him tell it, is there anything in life that he hasn't done?  His resumé sounds pretty unbelievable.... like, each entry is something that people spend whole careers attaining.... supposedly a super spook, confidant to the highest levels of the government-military complex, yet ~ a regular on fringe-y radio and Internet programs.  Like Steve Quayle: he's all over shows like this, telling the "secrets" --YET-- the "people in the know" willingly open up to him...?  Right ~~~~

Alexander seems to be one of the very few credible guys that do come on fringe shows like C2C (Kaku, et. al.).  He might have a bit of an ego but as far as I can tell he is who he says he is.  His recent book on UFOs was interesting reading, if you are into that topic.

[b_dubb]

is Col John a reference to John Lear?  just wondering

[Morgus]

is Col John a reference to John Lear?  just wondering

no, it was a reference to one of last night's guests: Col. John Alexander

[Lovely Bones]

It was a snoozefest.

Thanks, Harmness and Morgus for the synopses.  Glad I didn't miss anything earth-shattering. 

[b_dubb]

http://youtu.be/c3jsmlLsut0

[Scully]

http://youtu.be/c3jsmlLsut0

Interesting, b_dubb.  I WANT to believe. 

[Morgus]

The first caller to George Knapp in the first hour of open lines tonight apparently faked his name as the frequent caller  Bill from West Hartford (the OCD atheist amateur astronomer) but instead the caller turned out to be an angry nut bashing the news media people.
He must not have been aware the host he was talking to is a reporter for the TV news media in Las Vegas?
When Knapp confronted the angry caller, the guy just hung up... 

[Morgus]

Ah, here now is the REAL Bill from West Hartford back on yet again.
He again mentions he is a lifelong liberal and rants about the republicans.
On past calls, he told of his longtime worry that if they got in power he is always afraid they will take away his extensive stash of porn, which old Bill depends on since he has never had a girlfriend in his over 60 years. 

[stevesh]

We also were honored by the presence of Will from Madison, WI who once again managed to promote his ugly anti-Jew, anti-Catholic blog website. (finnics7DOTblogstreamDOTcom) I sent Lisa Lyons an email asking if the C2C hosts and producers shared ol' Will's ignorant bigotry.

[El Kragen]

We also were honored by the presence of Will from Madison, WI who once again managed to promote his ugly anti-Jew, anti-Catholic blog website. (finnics7DOTblogstreamDOTcom) I sent Lisa Lyons an email asking if the C2C hosts and producers shared ol' Will's ignorant bigotry.

Prior to looking at it, if I tried to imagine what Will's website looked like just by listening to him speak it would be exactly what he has up. A visual representation of hyper-run-on-sentence-insane rambling.

[Tara]

It's a conscious decision on the part of the C2C call screener(s) to repeatedly put Will from Madison and Bill from West Hartford on the air.  They know these guys are loony, mentally disturbed, and repetitive.  Somehow the deluded call screeners think that these crazies add to the quality of the show; they appeal to C2C's designated demographic.

[patricia24]

 I listen the podcasts only, so I rarely listen to the callers, some are really bright and refreshing but most are a huge turn off - maybe they are plants? ... I listen for the guests and what they discovered in their research or investigations.

I really respect George Knapp, he has street cred - he not just a blathering talking head - he is an investigative journalist - and just received a long email from him!     Cool!! It was very intelligent and thoughtful.   

He wrote back in response to my email of encouragement since many conservatives were hating on him for his show with the investigative journalist, Greg Palast, who uncovered rampant corruption in the Oil Industry and especially in relation to the BP spill and vulture capitalists who essentially rape poor countries by taking their funds, funding for clean water, etc.  ( What the  ??  )

[Eddie Coyle]

It's a conscious decision on the part of the C2C call screener(s) to repeatedly put Will from Madison and Bill from West Hartford on the air.  They know these guys are loony, mentally disturbed, and repetitive.  Somehow the deluded call screeners think that these crazies add to the quality of the show; they appeal to C2C's designated demographic.

That's it. Either the call screeners are the dumbest bastards on Earth, repeatedly getting tricked by mental defectives..or-more likely- they are under instruction to put those loonies on because the "hierarchy" at C2C believes that they are a vital component to the broadcast. And it shows the contempt toward the audience...or maybe they really are under the impression that only maladaptives are listening.

[Jasmine]

It's a conscious decision on the part of the C2C call screener(s) to repeatedly put Will from Madison and Bill from West Hartford on the air.  They know these guys are loony, mentally disturbed, and repetitive.  Somehow the deluded call screeners think that these crazies add to the quality of the show; they appeal to C2C's designated demographic.

The concerted and prolonged effort on the part of the C2C producers to keep this program on such a sub-basement level is both angering and insulting. I personally don't recall many of the psycho callers, but I've retained enough of the gist of their calls to be alternately bemused (when I'm in a lighthearted frame of mind) or thoroughly repulsed. I recall after hearing that imbecile, JC, for the fourth time, I fired off a pretty abrupt email to George, Tom, and Lisa, basically stating enough was enough of having the intelligence of both myself and other discerning listeners insulted and to knock off utilizing this rehearsed plant of a caller as so-called 'entertainment'.

We also were honored by the presence of Will from Madison, WI who once again managed to promote his ugly anti-Jew, anti-Catholic blog website. (finnics7DOTblogstreamDOTcom) I sent Lisa Lyons an email asking if the C2C hosts and producers shared ol' Will's ignorant bigotry.

Perhaps the hosts and producers have a firewall when it comes to receiving emails such as yours, Stevish, but I think it's imperative that these emails continue to be sent to C2C by anyone who at anytime is ticked off by any element of the program. It's great to vent on this forum, albeit it's like preaching to the choir - the other side of the equation needs to hear our comments directly, too. I'd also love to know the email address of the applicable person/persons at Premiere Radio - I'd fire off a plethora of emails to them and cc George, Tom, and Lisa.

[PB the Deplorable]

    That's it. Either the call screeners are the dumbest bastards on Earth, repeatedly getting tricked by mental defectives..or-more likely- they are under instruction to put those loonies on because the "hierarchy" at C2C believes that they are a vital component to the broadcast. And it shows the contempt toward the audience...or maybe they really are under the impression that only maladaptives are listening.

I don't think there are all that many listeners out there that tune in for the whole program and care enough to call. 

We've seen the articles about PremRat having paid callers.  We know Tommy will mostly only put on callers that either sound insane or have a lower IQ than George Noory.  We know George Noory will have someone call Lionel Fanthorpe or Richard C if he runs out of cue cards, dumps the guest, and needs to fill out the rest of the show. 

Would it be a stretch to assume when things get slow, the call screeners have a list of previous caller/listeners they call to see if they want to come on the air again?  Or does Bill from West Hartford  really have a knack for out speed-dialing hundreds of other callers? 

[Eddie Coyle]

Would it be a stretch to assume when things get slow, the call screeners have a list of previous caller/listeners they call to see if they want to come on the air again?  Or does Bill from West Hartford  really have a knack for out speed-dialing hundreds of other callers?

Wouldn't surprise me at all if there was a concerted effort to "beef up" the show with these celebrity callers. Some of these nuts are regulars on other broadcasts, there was a notorious caller "Butch From the Cape" who infected North East radio from Philadelphia to Boston until his blessed death in 2001.

[Morgus]

Everyone should try to call in during open lines under a fake name like JC, Bill from West Hartford, or Moondog and see if the screeners put you on the air quickly.
George Knapp got a call the other night from a "JC" but it wasn't the notorious one. But I wonder if the screeners heard the name JC and moved him up in the call queue? 

[CoastCanuck]

Out of curiosity, and because I only started listening in 2008, did Art Bell used to encounter these callers?  If so, how often and how did he handle them?  Did Art work without a call screener?

[Morgus]

Out of curiosity, and because I only started listening in 2008, did Art Bell used to encounter these callers?  If so, how often and how did he handle them?  Did Art work without a call screener?

Art had his own frequent regular callers with their own strangeness over the years.
JC started out with him for example in the mid 90s, however the current JC caller might be a fake impersonator - his voice sounds different than the "old" JC and the new one behaves different as well.
In the early to mid 90's Art Bell's open lines were more about politics, so he had callers like Doc Democrat and Charlie Liberal that critized Art often in their calls for his conservative stance on issues.
In the classic days when Art ran the show out of his home studio in Pahrump, Nevada he famously took unscreened calls for open lines but he had a 10sec delay or so that he could use to prevent bad language from getting out if needed.
Art would play with a strange caller at times especially with JC - often using a voice changer to sound like a devil.
If a caller had a strange but interesting story he would go with it - the unscreened callers made possible some of the classic tales in the mid 90s including the Mel's Hole story, Mad Man Markham's time travel experiments, Bug's bigfoot burial story, and much more. Such interesting callers would be brought back later to tell more of their story as a guest.
Art's special topic lines like for time travelers, area 51 employees, etc brought out some fascinating caller stories - trying to figure out if they were real or not was part of the fun. Art even sometimes played a game called "truth or trash" where a caller would tell a story and then other callers could vot if it was truth or trash. Art sometimes had an onair debate for a half-hour between two callers with opposing views. In the mid 90s, many nights were all open lines including these caller driven segments with no guest inteview - in fact the guest interviews were a rarity back then. The show started as a strictly caller driven show with Art reading a few news stories and discussing news and political events with the callers.

When he had a guest interview and took caller questions for the guest, Art would screen calls himself, but he never had anybody else as a call screener, he ran everything himself - unlike today where Noory has a big staff who do all the background work for him and put callers on queues.
In the classic days with Art, if you called one of his several phone lines you would not be put on hold, you had to keep ringing until he answered the line and then the caller was immediately on the air.

However in later years (post 2003) when Art retuned from retirements or was guest hosting especially remotely from Manila, he didn't have the complete control anymore. He had to rely on the same staff and call screeners plus caller queue system the other hosts do now from remote locations. So the days of unscreened calls are long gone now. 

[PB the Deplorable]

Art had his own frequent regular callers with their own strangeness over the years.
JC started out with him for example in the mid 90s, however the current JC caller might be a fake impersonator - his voice sounds different than the "old" JC and the new one behaves different as well.
In the early to mid 90's Art Bell's open lines were more about politics, so he had callers like Doc Democrat and Charlie Liberal that critized Art often in their calls for his conservative stance on issues.
In the classic days when Art ran the show out of his home studio in Pahrump, Nevada he famously took unscreened calls for open lines but he had a 10sec delay or so that he could use to prevent bad language from getting out if needed.
Art would play with a strange caller at times especially with JC - often using a voice changer to sound like a devil.
If a caller had a strange but interesting story he would go with it - the unscreened callers made possible some of the classic tales in the mid 90s including the Mel's Hole story, Mad Man Markham's time travel experiments, Bug's bigfoot burial story, and much more. Such interesting callers would be brought back later to tell more of their story as a guest.
Art's special topic lines like for time travelers, area 51 employees, etc brought out some fascinating caller stories - trying to figure out if they were real or not was part of the fun. Art even sometimes played a game called "truth or trash" where a caller would tell a story and then other callers could vot if it was truth or trash. Art sometimes had an onair debate for a half-hour between two callers with opposing views. In the mid 90s, many nights were all open lines including these caller driven segments with no guest inteview - in fact the guest interviews were a rarity back then. The show started as a strictly caller driven show with Art reading a few news stories and discussing news and political events with the callers.

When he had a guest interview and took caller questions for the guest, Art would screen calls himself, but he never had anybody else as a call screener, he ran everything himself - unlike today where Noory has a big staff who do all the background work for him and put callers on queues.
In the classic days with Art, if you called one of his several phone lines you would not be put on hold, you had to keep ringing until he answered the line and then the caller was immediately on the air.

However in later years (post 2003) when Art retuned from retirements or was guest hosting especially remotely from Manila, he didn't have the complete control anymore. He had to rely on the same staff and call screeners plus caller queue system the other hosts do now from remote locations. So the days of unscreened calls are long gone now. 

I sure miss Art. 

And to go from that to George Noory.  No wonder George's suckage is being documented all over the internet...

[CoastCanuck]

Was anyone fortunate enough to watch the on-line session with George Knapp last night (as a Coast insider)?  If so, how was it?  Any juicy details?

[FightTheFuture]

Really looking forward to Knapp having Travis Walton on tomorrow night. Classic C2C stuff.

[HorrorReporter]

Knapp's Sunday should be great.. I have some high hopes too

[VtaGeezer]

I'm looking forward to a C2C show tonight as it should be following Wells' drsggiong it into the twilight of the extreme right "Oathkeeper" zealots.  GK is the last of the C2C host's who "get it". 

[Morgus]

George Knapp has had many technical problems for some of his past C2CAM programs - wonder if it could be caused by some kind of sabotage?
Tonight Knapp started on the air and couldn't hear his guests at all, though listeners on the radio could hear them.
So for the first 15minutes or so, he continued an interview by asking each guest a question (they could hear him, though he could not hear the reply) and waiting a few minutes before asking another question.
That must be similar to how Noory interviews guests, since Noory seems to never hear or remember the guest's answers... 

Thankfully for Knapp, the technical problem was fixed after 15minutes or so.

[PB the Deplorable]

George Knapp has had many technical problems for some of his past C2CAM programs - wonder if it could be caused by some kind of sabotage?
Tonight Knapp started on the air and couldn't hear his guests at all, though listeners on the radio could hear them.
So for the first 15minutes or so, he continued an interview by asking each guest a question (they could hear him, though he could not hear the reply) and waiting a few minutes before asking another question.
That must be similar to how Noory interviews guests, since Noory seems to never hear or remember the guest's answers... 

Thankfully for Knapp, the technical problem was fixed after 15minutes or so.

I used to try to listen to his shows, and it seemed like he was forever having technical difficulties.  Too often for it to be sabotage -seems like that would only work a few times before everyone got wise.

I picture George at some local makeshift studio at a Las Vegas station, the people that know what they are doing long gone for the day.  I don't think the ratings are anywhere near what is claimed for Coast anymore.  So there George sits, not really a radio guy, at the mercy of late night interns on a show no one is listening to anyway.

One thing, we know PremRat doesn't have a lot of interest in C2C, and must not be putting much money into it either.

[HorrorReporter]

For all the technical issues he handled it well.. Even though Travis Walton seemed to just mumble his way though the interview ..

[Tara]

I don't know if George Knapp is being sabotaged, but I'm certain that Noory is jealous as hell of Knapp, who's a professional journalist with intelligent accolades from C2C listeners.   If Noory listened to Knapp even once, he has to know that he could never even aspire to such a level of competence.  Similarly, with AB.

I would say that Noory never heard of 1/2 of the words that Knapp uses.
Noory:  "Hey Tommy, what does cacophony mean?  Google that word."

[b_dubb]

I don't know if George Knapp is being sabotaged, but I'm certain that Noory is jealous as hell of Knapp, who's a professional journalist with intelligent accolades from C2C listeners.   If Noory listened to Knapp even once, he has to know that he could never even aspire to such a level of competence.  Similarly, with AB.

I would say that Noory never heard of 1/2 of the words that Knapp uses.
Noory:  "Hey Tommy, what does cacophony mean?  Google that word."

if Knapp had any interest in hosting Coast ... noory would suddenly find himself unemployed or all by his simple self on the bench

[Lovely Bones]

Tonight Knapp started on the air and couldn't hear his guests at all, though listeners on the radio could hear them.
So for the first 15minutes or so, he continued an interview by asking each guest a question (they could hear him, though he could not hear the reply) and waiting a few minutes before asking another question.
That must be similar to how Noory interviews guests, since Noory seems to never hear or remember the guest's answers... 

Knapp did a better job of actually conversing with his guests--totally unable to hear them for 15 minutes--than Noory does able to hear them.  If he hadn't told the audience he was unable to hear, he probably could have faked it, since everybody's used to Noory not listening to a thing guests have to say anyway.

I loved Knapp's intro last night, something about "if you're hungry for some red meat of a good ol' paranormal discussion . . ." or something to that effect.  I could hear coastgabbers clapping across the country.  Yes, Mr. Knapp.  We're hungry for that red meat, and we're tired of Noory's attempts to "educate" us.  Give us some UFO's and cryptozoology and ghosties and ghoulies and have Noory and Co. cut the turmeric, ditch the GMO stuff, bury the baking soda cures for cancer, and leave the politics for daytime.