2016 Likely Candidates for POTUS?

[paladin1991]

So basically, we're fucked.

Well,  *hits the bong long and hard* basically.

[aldousburbank]

That could be could theater.  Two liberal bitches trying to out liberal and out bitch each other.

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[paladin1991]

Yeah, AB, something like that.

[missing transmission]

[b_dubb]

A better campaign slogan would be "Let's get it over with"

[Zoo]

A better campaign slogan would be "Let's get it over with"

I am so down with that. Where do I sign up? Lets do this a campaign to end the world by 2016 YES god YES lets do this!!1

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Let's put Hillary and Jeb on the same ticket, then run an ordinary intelligent person against them

[Zoo]

Let's put Hillary and Jeb on the same ticket, then run an ordinary intelligent person against them

I am good with that. In fact lets just pick someone at random who has paid their taxes and does not own stock in the military industry!!1

[WOTR]

For the longest time all that I heard was about the inevitability of Rand Paul running.  The funny thing is it was both left and right leaning broadcasts (in Canada) that were making this prediction.  Has something changed, or have your neighbours to the north been mislead?

Anyhow, I did like Ron Paul... but there have been a couple of things that I have caught from Rand that make me a little more unsettled with the idea.  I suppose it could just be the media blowing things out of proportion as I have not paid really close attention.  I figure that I will look closer once the actual candidates are announced.

I really want to see Americans voting for a Bush dynasty and a Clinton dynasty.  Hillary can get it this time for 8 years then hand it off to Jeb.  By that time Chelsea Clinton should be old enough to take a shot and we can toss in the occasional Kennedy for good measure.  There really is no need to have anymore than two or possibly three families run the US.  I mean, if George I was the best man in America for the job then it follows that George II must also have been the best because he had the same royal blood.  Jeb has the same blood and should take his rightful place as emperor for a few years... Given his royal lineage it is safe to assume that he is a great man.

Why the revolution happened, I will never know.  They just needed to bring a Bush, a Clinton or a Kennedy into the royal family and people would have been happy.

A mix of a George and a Clinton...

[Zoo]

The sad thing is you are really onto something there. I hope on so many levels your wrong but in my heart I do believe you are right. Now does it make sense why I am so tired of fighting and fighting for the last 24yrs. I have been trying to change things by talking, protesting and showing facts but nobody listens or wants to know. This is why I am so ready to fast forward to the end so we can start again. I still fight and will till the end but it is hard to fight a society of ignorance!!1

[PB the Deplorable]

Has that Obama lookalike Barry Soetero thrown his hat in the ring yet?

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From: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/215523-the-65-people-who-may-run-for-president-in-2016
The 65 people who might run for president in 2016

here are 65 prominent people who might run for president in 2016.

The Democratic and Republican fields contrast sharply. Hillary Clinton is the clear front-runner, while there is no front-runner on the Republican side.

Twenty-three Democrats have been mentioned as a candidate or are eyeing a bid, according to an analysis by The Hill. The GOP side has 42.

Most of the people on this list won’t run, and some have adamantly claimed that they’re not interested. But many politicians have changed their minds on seeking the White House. Before mounting his 2008 bid, then-Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) said he wasn’t running.

The following is The Hill’s list of 65 people who might run for president in 2016.

Democrats

Vice President Biden â€" Will he or won’t he? Polls show he is trailing Hillary Clinton badly. Last month, President Obama said Biden would be a “superb” commander in chief.

California Gov. Jerry Brown

Brown has run for president three times. He says a fourth is “not in the cards"

Montana Gov. Steve Bullock â€" Bullock is seen more as a vice presidential possibility.

Hillary Clinton â€" Will she run? Of course she will.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo â€" He would be a top contender if Clinton wasn’t running. But the ongoing corruption probe in New York looms over Cuomo’s head.

Howard Dean 

The former Vermont governor and 2004 presidential candidate told CNN he hopes Clinton wins. But last year, he warned she wouldn’t get a pass in the Democratic primary. 

Russ Feingold â€" The liberal darling mulled a 2008 bid before losing his reelection race in 2010.

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y.) â€" Gillibrand has made it clear she backs Clinton. But if the former first lady doesn’t run, Gillibrand might.

Al Gore â€" Few think he will run, but political analyst Mark Halperin sparked new speculation on “Morning Joe” last month, when he said the former vice president might challenge Clinton.

New Hampshire Gov. Maggie Hassan â€" She might opt to run for the Senate in 2016.

Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper â€" A popular governor who has indicated he won’t run.

John Kerry   

The secretary of State absolutely ruled out a 2016 campaign earlier this year. But then again, so did Barack Obama before he ran in 2008.

Sen. Amy Klobuchar (Minn.) â€" See Gillibrand. Klobuchar visited Iowa last year and will be back in the Hawkeye State this week to stump for Senate hopeful Rep. Bruce Braley (D-Iowa).

Sen. Joe Manchin (W.Va.) â€" There’s a Draft Joe Manchin effort out there, but the centrist is more likely to run for governor again should he leave the Senate.

Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley â€" Uphill climb for O’Malley. How tough? Three members of the Maryland delegation (Sen. Barbara Mikulski and Reps. Steny Hoyer and John Delaney) have already said they would back Clinton in the Democratic primary.

Janet Napolitano
The Washington Post last year called the former governor and Cabinet official “a woman to watch in 2016.”

Missouri Gov. Jay Nixon â€" The unrest in Ferguson is a huge test for Nixon, whose last name wouldn’t be an asset if he runs.

Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick â€" Will likely run for president at some point, but not in 2016.

Sen. Bernie Sanders â€" The liberal Sanders, who is technically an independent, has said he would challenge Clinton if no one else from the left launches a bid.

Brian Schweitzer â€" The former governor of Montana has had a rough summer.

Sen. Mark Warner (Va.) â€" Warner stunned political observers, when he didn’t run for president in 2008. He instead ran for the Senate and is up for reelection against Ed Gillespie this fall.

Sen. Elizabeth Warren (Mass.) â€" Unlike Clinton, Warren has been busy on the campaign trail for Senate candidates.

Jim Webb â€" The former senator is eyeing a long-shot bid.





Republicans

Sen. Kelly Ayotte (N.H.) â€" Ayotte, who is up for reelection in 2016, is already being discussed as a vice presidential pick.

Rep. Michele Bachmann (Minn.) â€" Tea Party favorite has said she might run again in 2016.

Former Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour â€" Barbour is well liked by the GOP establishment and was included in a Republican National Committee straw poll in January.

Rep. Marsha Blackburn (Tenn.)



Blackburn denied a report she is mulling a bid.

John Bolton â€" The former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations is leaving the 2016 door open.

Scott Brown â€" Brown is the underdog in his race against Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.).

Jeb Bush â€" Bush fatigue would be a significant obstacle for the former Florida governor.

Herman Cain â€" Jon Stewart prayed on the air that Cain would run again.

Ben Carson



Carson is a rising star in the GOP.

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie â€" Bridge-gate hasn’t deterred Christie, who sounds like he’s going to be a candidate.

Sen. Ted Cruz (Texas) â€" Tea Party star must convince kingmakers that he can beat Clinton.

Mitch Daniels â€" The ex-governor of Indiana decided against running in 2012 because of family concerns.

Oklahoma Gov. Mary Fallin â€" The former House member is in the mix of speculation.

Tennessee Gov. Bill Haslam â€" He says he’s not interested in running.

Newt Gingrich â€" The 2012 presidential candidate and ex-Speaker might run again. Asked by Fox News’s Greta van Susteren about throwing his hat in the ring, Gingrich responded, “Ask me that in January of 2015.”

South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley â€" Haley is always mentioned as a possible candidate.

Mike Huckabee

Huckabee’s poll numbers are quite good.

Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal â€" The former House member knows policy inside and out, but he would have to stand out amid the many personalities that will be on the 2016 stage.

Ohio Gov. John Kasich â€" Will Kasich and Ohio Sen. Rob Portman both run? Regardless, Ohio is a must win for the GOP in 2016.

Rep. Pete King (N.Y.) â€" A frequent critic of Sens. Ted Cruz (Texas) and Rand Paul (Ky.).

Rep. Steve King (Iowa) â€" A kingmaker in Iowa and a hard-liner on immigration.

New Mexico Gov. Susana Martinez



The first female Hispanic governor is not expected to run for president. But she will be a leading vice presidential candidate.

Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (Wash.) â€" She has a bright future, though a presidential run in 2016 probably isn’t in the cards.

Sarah Palin â€" The RNC put her in its straw poll, but most think the former Alaska governor will remain on the sidelines.

Sen. Rand Paul (Ky.) â€" Paul, who is up for reelection in 2016, looks like a sure bet to run for president. Of all the possible 2016 GOP hopefuls, Paul has arguably had the best 2014.

Indiana Gov. Mike Pence â€" Pence is a dark horse who shouldn’t be overlooked. The former House member was Tea Party before the Tea Party existed and is well respected by social and fiscal conservatives.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry 



Comebacks are common in politics, but can Perry pull it off? He has two things going for him: The border crisis has put him front and center on the national stage, and the right has rallied behind him in the wake of his indictment in Texas.

Sen. Rob Portman (Ohio) â€" Portman, who is up for reelection in 2016, is headed to New Hampshire next week.

Condoleezza Rice â€" The former secretary of State routinely comes up in this conversation, but the chances of a Rice bid are remote.

Rep. Mike Rogers (Mich.) â€" The retiring House member and soon-to-be talk-radio host hasn’t ruled out a run.

Mitt Romney â€" The rumors of another Romney run continue to persist.

Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.)


Rubio will have to decide whether to run for president or reelection in 2016. As he said, “you can’t be on the ballot for two different offices” in Florida.

Rep. Paul Ryan (Wis.) â€" He seems more intent on becoming Ways and Means Committee chairman than running for president.

Nevada Gov. Brian Sandoval â€" It’s more likely that Sandoval would challenge Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) in 2016.

Rick Santorum


The former Pennsylvania senator is being overlooked in the 2016 race. He did, after all, win the Iowa caucus in 2012.

Joe Scarborough â€" The host of MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” is certainly eyeing a return to public office. Will it come sooner or later?

Sen. Tim Scott (S.C.) â€" He probably won’t run but will be discussed as a possible No. 2 on the ticket.

Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder â€" He faces a challenging reelection race in November.

Sen. John Thune (S.D.) â€" Thune nearly ran in 2012, and he has more than $9.5 million in his campaign war chest.

Donald Trump â€"Trump might run, but don’t bet on it.

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker â€" Walker first has to win reelection this year.

Allen West â€" The former congressman from Florida is mulling a bid.

I would add on the Democratic side
1.Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown
2.Rhode Island Senator John Reed

3.Washington Senator Maria Cantwell
4.Former New Hampshire Governor John Lynch

[b_dubb]

I'd vote for John Kasich

[albrecht]

I think Lyndon LaRouche should throw his hat in there. Why not? Sure he is old but so were others and he seems, despite his conspiracies, more mentally nimble and spoken than most politicians. It might just be time for "it's so crazy, it just might work" candidate and it would be an ultimate revenge on the system that convicted him (and that evil drug-dealing QofE and her bankers who control it.) Haha. (Although I'm kidding, actually a 3rd party or independent and even a LaRouche would likely do the country better than the lot we have had recently. At least throw a bit of a wrench in the mix for a bit.)

[The General]

My pick for the preferred, but not the likely ticket:
Paul/Gary Johnson
You may say I'm a dreamer

I'd vote for that.

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

I'm still hoping for a Cain-McCain ticket.

I'd settle for Condi though.

[PB the Deplorable]

What, no Colon Powell?

A lot of the people who eventually do run know they aren't serious contenders - some of them run so a pet idea or issue will get exposure, others hope to get personal exposure on the TV political talk show circuit or sell books.

[FightTheFuture]

Walker vs. Webb.
   

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How valid could this be if George Noory isn't anywhere on the list?

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Walker Won't Run for President if Ryan Does
If Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) decides to run for president, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that "you can pretty much count him out."

Said Walker: "It would be hard to do if you're the president of the fan club."

He added that anyone wanting to run for president has to be "a little crazy," adding that he doesn't "want to be classified as crazy."

[FightTheFuture]

Walker Won't Run for President if Ryan Does
If Rep. Paul Ryan (R-WI) decides to run for president, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker (R) told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that "you can pretty much count him out."

Said Walker: "It would be hard to do if you're the president of the fan club."

He added that anyone wanting to run for president has to be "a little crazy," adding that he doesn't "want to be classified as crazy."

Ryan won`t run. He just doesn`t YET have the gravitas. For God`s sake, Biden beat him the VP debate...BIDEN!

And as we all know, the more a politico says "no, no, no", the more he means, "yes, yes, yes."


Walker runs, people LOVE Walker, Walker wins

[aldousburbank]

I have been trying to change things by talking, protesting and showing facts but nobody listens or wants to know.

Now the only thing left is for you to actually, you know, do something. Perhaps feng shui your (mom's) house, then work your way up to benevolent dictator from there. Baby steps.

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Ryan won`t run. He just doesn`t YET have the gravitas. For God`s sake, Biden beat him the VP debate...BIDEN!

And as we all know, the more a politico says "no, no, no", the more he means, "yes, yes, yes."


Walker runs, people LOVE Walker, Walker wins

Walker has to get reelected first.

RCP Average   9/3 - 10/1   --   --   47.5   47.0   Walker +0.5
CBS News/NYT/YouGov   9/20 - 10/1   1444 LV   3.0   48   49   Burke +1
Marquette University   9/25 - 9/28   585 LV   4.1   50   45   Walker +5
Rasmussen Reports   9/15 - 9/16   750 LV   4.0   48   46   Walker +2
WeAskAmerica*   9/3 - 9/3   1170 LV   3.0   44   48   Burke +4

[paladin1991]

Who's going to run?  Who's going to run?  Trying to consider who is going to run vs. who is a viable candidate?  I'd rather listen to Noory and LMH go back and forth on whether or not Bigfoot uses Carnivora as directed or if he just slams back a fistful, as needed of course.   

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Deadlocked in Wisconsin
A new Marquette University Law School poll in Wisconsin finds Gov. Scott Walker (R) and challenger Mary Burke (D) in a dead heat for governor, 47% to 47%.

[PB the Deplorable]

I think we all know Big Media and the rest of the Lib poll takers either flat out lie about the actual results, or intentionally skew the poll results by the way they are conducted.  This is done at this point in the cycle to influence voters who want to be on the winning side.

As voting day nears, the polls often show Conservative or Republican candidates appearing to make up ground, pull ahead, or increase their lead - because people only remember the final poll vs actual results - and the pollsters do want to be seen as having been 'accurate'.  These more accurate poll results near end of the campaign also have the effect of spooking more of the D's into getting out and voting

If the polls say it's tied, it means Walker is likely up by about 5-7%

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I think we all know Big Media and the rest of the Lib poll takers either flat out lie about the actual results, or intentionally skew the poll results by the way they are conducted.  This is done at this point in the cycle to influence voters who want to be on the winning side.

As voting day nears, the polls often show Conservative or Republican candidates appearing to make up ground, pull ahead, or increase their lead - because people only remember the final poll vs actual results - and the pollsters do want to be seen as having been 'accurate'.  These more accurate poll results near end of the campaign also have the effect of spooking more of the D's into getting out and voting

If the polls say it's tied, it means Walker is likely up by about 5-7%

Yes, because 'unskewing' the polls worked so well for you guys in 2012.

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http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/10/romney-leads-scattered-2016-gop-field-clinton-still-dominates-the-democratic-race/

Hillary Clinton continues to hold a commanding lead in the potential Democratic field for president in 2016, while the GOP frontrunner in the latest ABC News/Washington Post poll is a familiar figure â€" but one not favored by eight in 10 potential Republican voters.
That would be Mitt Romney, supported for the GOP nomination by 21 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents. That’s double the support of his closest potential rival, but it also leaves 79 percent who prefer one of 13 other possible candidates tested, or none of them.

When Romney is excluded from the race, his supporters scatter, adding no clarity to the GOP free-for-all. In that scenario former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul have 12 or 13 percent support from leaned Republicans who are registered to vote. All others have support in the single digits.
Were Romney to run again, he’d likely face some of the same challenges that dragged out the 2012 GOP contest. He’s supported by only half as many “strong” conservatives as those who are “somewhat” conservative, 15 vs. 30 percent in this poll, produced for ABC by Langer Research Associates.
Huckabee, for his part, does somewhat better with Republican-leaning independents than with mainline Republicans, a potential problem in closed primaries. He also does better with women than with men; that’s reversed for Paul.

DEMS â€" Clinton continues to dominate on the Democratic side, with 64 percent support. Still, there are some gaps in her support: It’s 54 percent among men vs. 70 percent of women and
55 percent among those younger than 50 vs. 72 percent among those 50 and older. And she gets less support from Democratic-leaning independents, 53 percent, than from mainline Democrats, 69 percent.
Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts have 13 and 11 percent support, respectively. Biden does better among those under 50, those with less education and nonwhites; Warren, among college graduates and whites.

It’s early days for all this, of course; the 2016 election is two years away. But after the midterms just two weeks off, it’ll be the next item on the dance card.
METHODOLOGY â€" This ABC News/Washington Post poll was conducted by telephone Oct. 9-12, 2014, in English and Spanish, among a random national sample of 1,006 adults, including landline and cell-phone-only respondents. Results among the 871 registered voters interviewed have a margin of sampling error of 4 points, including design effect.
The survey was produced for ABC News by Langer Research Associates of New York, N.Y., with sampling, data collection and tabulation by Abt-SRBI of New York, N.Y.

[PB the Deplorable]

At this point in the cycle, it's about name recognition

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At this point in the cycle, it's about name recognition

That may be a fair point on the Republican side, though I suspect many of their leading presidential contenders already have high name recognition, but show me a prior cycle where the leading Democrat was polling at 64%.  Maybe Al Gore who only had one challenger (although there were 5 or 6 other Democrats who were said to be considering running in 2000).