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Started by West of the Rockies, October 05, 2014, 03:09:56 PM

Quote from: VtaGeezer on February 27, 2015, 12:15:34 PM
Nope. It was clearly a prepared line that only a thoughtless jerk would use. A statesman would have reassigned the fool who wrote it to the luggage van. Walker is a drab, humorless minor leaguer whose campaign chest and PR have outrun his ideology-limited IQ.

Are you aware of the ass-clown presently residing in the White House?

A few dumb remarks add up to approximately zero compared to what Barrack Obama has been doing (and not doing)


But you're going to vote for whoever has a 'D' after their name no matter what, so why not start smearing any R's who are considering running now, amiright?

onan

Quote from: Paper*Boy on February 27, 2015, 01:35:27 PM

But you're going to vote for whoever has a 'D' after their name no matter what, so why not start smearing any R's who are considering running now, amiright?

Please share with me all of the Dems you have spoken of kindly?

albrecht

Quote from: ItsOver on February 27, 2015, 11:39:33 AM
Yes.  I'm not sure if we'll reach the bottom in my lifetime but it's full speed ahead in that direction.
I say a decade, maybe faster especially if the borders will be left open and our immigration policy is to attract the uneducated (often illiterate even in their native language), the poor, the diseased, the unemployable, the drugs, and the criminals and we continue with our constant wars and reckless spending.



Off topic but related to the CPAC

What do folk in the USA make of Nigel Farage and UKIP (if they've heard of him at all)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMUmfeklWXc#ws

albrecht

Quote from: missing transmission on March 02, 2015, 11:20:35 AM
Off topic but related to the CPAC

What do folk in the USA make of Nigel Farage and UKIP (if they've heard of him at all)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMUmfeklWXc#ws
I love the guy, especially when he spoke about Von Rompuy (""has the charisma of a damp rag and the appearance of a low-grade bank clerk" and "would you buy a used car from this man etc"  ;D)and his other speeches at the EU parliament against the dastardly EU.

Quote from: albrecht on March 02, 2015, 11:38:32 AM
I love the guy, especially when he spoke about Von Rompuy (""has the charisma of a damp rag and the appearance of a low-grade bank clerk" and "would you buy a used car from this man etc"  ;D)and his other speeches at the EU parliament against the dastardly EU.

The main points I picked up in a UK review of his speech was that it was a to a half-empty auditorium, but also that his anti-war stance views fell on stony ground. Especially in light of Sarah Palins Red white and blue comment.

albrecht

Quote from: missing transmission on March 02, 2015, 12:22:54 PM
The main points I picked up in a UK review of his speech was that it was a to a half-empty auditorium, but also that his anti-war stance views fell on stony ground. Especially in light of Sarah Palins Red white and blue comment.
Yeah, he is more of a Ron Paul type and not a "bomb everyone" type. His stuff on the EU and his speeches there are priceless though. They are on youtube and worth a watch.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: albrecht on March 02, 2015, 11:38:32 AM
I love the guy, especially when he spoke about Von Rompuy (""has the charisma of a damp rag and the appearance of a low-grade bank clerk" and "would you buy a used car from this man etc"  ;D)and his other speeches at the EU parliament against the dastardly EU.

Surprise, surprise!  Oberreichsfuhrer Albrecht is a big fan of the UKIP!  Anything to do with hating immigrants is in Albie's wheelhouse.


136 or 142

New CNN/Opinion Research Poll:


http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/03/17/poll.2016.pdf

Interviews with 1,009 adult Americans conducted by telephone by ORC
International on March 13-15, 2015. The margin of sampling error for
results based on the total sample is plus or minus 3 percentage points.
This sample includes 605 interviews among landline respondents and 404
interviews among cell phone respondents.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/


Democratic Primary
Hillary Rodham Clinton 62%
Joe Biden 15%
Elizabeth Warren 10% (she's not running CNN!)
Bernie Sanders 3%
James Webb 1%
Martin O'Malley 1%

Republican Primary Poll
Jeb Bush 16%
Scott Walker 13%
Rand Paul 12%
Mike Huckabee 10%
Ben Carson 9%
Chris Christie 7%
Marco Rubio 7%
Ted Cruz 4%
Rick Perry 4%
John Kasich 2%
Bobby Jindal 1%
Rick Santorum 1%

Presidential Matchups
Hillary Rodham Clinton 55%
Jeb Bush 40%

Hillary Rodham Clinton 55%
Scott Walker 40%

Hillary Rodham Clinton 54%
Rand Paul 43%

Hillary Rodham Clinton 55%
Chris Christie 40%

Hillary Rodham Clinton 55%
Marco Rubio 42%

Hillary Rodham Clinton 55%
Mike Huckabee 41%

Hillary Rodham Clinton 56%
Ben Carson 40%

While I suspect these numbers are better for HRC than she's really doing, it certainly provides more polling that the 'email scandal'  has thus far had no impact.  Even those unhappy with her behaviour likely know by now that virtually every major Republican Party candidate for president also used private emails for their public office.

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Donald Trump may have launched an exploratory committee today and Rand Paul is expected to announce his candidacy in April.

On the other hand, Florida Governor Rick Scott who had earlier expressed interest in running for President is now looking at running for the U.S Senate in 2018.

These are the Republicans who have so far announced either by forming a PAC or an exploratory committee:
1.Jeb Bush, Florida
2.Ben Carson, Maryland
3.Mark Everson, Mississippi (no exploratory committee or PAC, just announced he was running)
4.Chris Christie, New Jersey
5.George Pataki, New York
6.Donald Trump, New York
7.Lindsey Graham, South Carolina
9.Rick Perry, Texas


Mark Everson (From wiki)
Mark Whitty Everson (born September 10, 1954) is the Vice Chairman of alliantgroup and served as the 46th Commissioner of Internal Revenue from 2003 until 2007. Prior to his appointment as Commissioner of the IRS, Everson held a number of federal government positions in the administrations of George W. Bush and Ronald Reagan, as well as at the state level within the administration of Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels.

In August 2009, Everson joined alliantgroup, LP, a national tax advisory consultant, to advise the firm and its clients on matters related to the IRS and on strategic, operational, and client service initiatives.

Everson received his Bachelor of Arts degree in history from Yale University and Master of Science degree in accounting from New York University's Stern School of Business.

Everson was a cabinet member for Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels from January 2009 to May 2012, where he served initially as Department of Administration Commissioner. From 2010-2012, Everson served as the Commissioner of the Department of Workforce Development, where he oversaw the state’s unemployment system and federal training programs. In this role, Everson began a program that was endorsed by the Indiana Chamber of Commerce and the Indiana Manufacturers Association that helped qualifying ex-offenders realize employment opportunities (http://www.ibj.com/state-launches-program-to-help-employ-exoffenders/PARAMS/article/29096).

Prior to his service in Indiana, Everson was appointed by President George W. Bush to a five-year term as Commissioner of Internal Revenue, the head of the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), and was confirmed by the U.S. Senate on 1 May 2003 as the 46th commissioner since the position was created in 1862. Areas of particular focus during his tenure with the IRS included combating abusive tax shelters and the development of more productive enforcement relationships with counterpart tax authorities in other countries (http://www.irs.gov/uac/KPMG-to-Pay-$456-Million-for-Criminal-Violations). Everson left the IRS effective May 4, 2007, before the end of his term to join the American Red Cross as its new CEO. Deputy commissioner Kevin Brown assumed the position of Acting Commissioner.

From August 1, 2002 until his IRS confirmation, Everson served as deputy director for management for the Office of Management and Budget (OMB). He chaired the President's Management Council, which is composed of cabinet department and major agency chief operating officers. The council is charged with improving overall executive branch management, including implementation of the President's Management Agenda. Before becoming deputy director for management, he served as controller of the Office of Federal Financial Management, also a part of OMB.

Prior to joining the Bush administration in August 2001, he was group vice president of finance at SC International Services, Inc., at the time a $2 billion privately owned, Dallas-based, food services company with leading market positions in both airline catering and home meals. From 1988 until 1998, he was an executive with the Pechiney Group, one of France's largest industrial groups. While with Pechiney, he held various financial and operating positions in the United States, France and Turkey.

Everson also served in the Reagan administration from 1982 until 1988 holding several positions at the United States Information Agency and the Department of Justice, where he was deputy commissioner of the Immigration and Naturalization Service. While at INS, he oversaw implementation of the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986, landmark legislation providing for sanctions against employers hiring illegal immigrants and granting amnesty to qualifying illegal immigrants.

Democrats
On the other side, after stating he might not running due to difficulty raising money, James Webb is now staffing up.

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Politics1.com @Politics1com
P2016: Looks like Sen Bernie Sanders is running Pres. Check out redesigned, nat'l focus, office-non-specific site: https://berniesanders.com

Politics1.com @Politics1com
P2016: Days after announcing he was filing Presidential exploratory committee ... Donald Trump has still not filed anything. No surprise.

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Vermont's Independent senator, Bernie Sanders, mulls possibility of presidential run
By DAN TUOHY
New Hampshire Union Leader
MANCHESTER â€" U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., continues to seriously consider running for President and says he is close to hiring staff in New Hampshire.

Asked about recent headlines that he was cooling to the idea, he was quick to respond: “Don’t believe everything you read.”

A decision could come as soon as next month, Sanders said in an interview at the Airport Diner in Manchester on Monday.

“When you have my politics and you’re taking on the entire establishment, you have to make sure that if you do it you do it well,” Sanders said. “That’s what we’re trying to figure out now. Can we put together the kind of political organization that we need, the grassroots organization? Can we raise the kind of money that we need from small, individual contributions?”

Sanders, 73, is considering running for the Democratic nomination for President, not as a third-party hopeful. His “politics” is that of a progressive firebrand, and that of a self-described Democratic socialist.

Ensuring a vigorous debate is one factor in his consideration of a potential campaign. “Yes, I think an uncontested primary, or as they sometimes say ‘a coronation,’ is not a good thing for America,” he said. “This country faces enormous problems in terms of a disappearing middle class, increases in poverty, massive income and wealth inequality, a Citizens United Supreme Court decision, which allows billionaires to buy elections, climate change â€" huge issues â€" and they need to be vigorously debated.”

If Sanders does not jump into the race, who does he think should run and make it a spirited contest? He declined to say. He is focusing on the issues.

Sanders plugs those issues at most stops, as well as his efforts to protect Social Security. Last week, he introduced a bill designed to strengthen and expand Social Security by eliminating the cap on the payroll tax on all income higher than $250,000.

Lifting that cap would bring in enough money to extend Social Security to 2060 and allow for expansion of benefits, he said in the interview.

“The other point I want to make is that if any of my colleagues, my friends coming here, Republicans, tell you that Social Security is going broke, they’re not telling you the truth,” Sanders said. “Social Security has a $2.7 trillion surplus in its trust fund and can pay out every benefit owed to every eligible American for the next 18 years.”

Sanders, Vermont’s junior senator who was re-elected in 2012 with 71 percent, said there is a lot at stake if he decides to become a presidential candidate.

“When you’re taking on every special interest in this country, whether it’s Wall Street, or insurance companies, drug companies, or the energy companies, there’s a lot to be thought about, if I want to do it well,” he said.

It is more than just the strength of one’s spirit, Sanders emphasized in talking about a potential 2016 run. Like several other possible presidential hopefuls, he has a serious day job. He stopped by the Airport Diner en route to Manchester-Boston Regional Airport to return to Washington.

Sanders elaborated on this before dunking his spoon into onion soup, as Simon & Garfunkel’s “The 59th Street Bridge Song (Feelin’ Groovy)” played from the diner’s speakers.

“If I do run,” Sanders said, “I will be in a sense carrying the banner for many millions of Americans who are concerned about the state of American democracy in Citizens United, who are concerned about the disappearing middle class and growing wealth and income inequality, who are concerned about climate change, who are concerned about high rates of unemployment, the unaffordability of college, student debt and all that stuff.”

“And if I were to run and not do it well, whether it’s winning or at least running well, then what people will say is, those issues don’t really resonate with the American people, right?”

- See more at: http://www.unionleader.com/article/20150317/NEWS0605/150319198#sthash.w5FC69VI.dpuf

albrecht

I hope Sanders does run. I don't agree with him on several things but I would like to see a person honest with his opinions run. And more third parties or even funny fringe candidates.
But he has a hard row to hoe:
"“When you’re taking on every special interest in this country, whether it’s Wall Street, or insurance companies, drug companies, or the energy companies,.......he said."

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 The Hill        ✔ @thehill

Talk is swirling that Ted Cruz may announce a presidential run within days: http://ow.ly/KBTHG  pic.twitter.com/7AODkZpKFn

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Taliban Ted to announce on monday at a speech in Virginia.  Apparently wont set up a PAC or an exploratory committee but just get into the race.  I like the honesty there.

Maybe Tehran Tom ("Iran will be in Tehran next!") will be inspired to join Taliban Ted in the race.  The clown car can always fit one more.

Up All Night

Quote from: 136 or 142 on March 21, 2015, 05:09:51 AM
The Hill        ✔ @thehill

Talk is swirling that Ted Cruz may announce a presidential run within days: http://ow.ly/KBTHG  pic.twitter.com/7AODkZpKFn

Ted has announced on Twitter:

I'm running for President and I hope to earn your support!

https://twitter.com/tedcruz/status/579857596191899648

VtaGeezer

Just watched Ayatollah Rafael make his announcement sermon in front of a huge Jerry Falwell's Liberty University crowd.  Student attendance at the event (Monday Convocation) was mandatory btw..but he didn't mention that.  Kind of ironic that Mr Liberty announces his Presidential campaign at an event with enforced attendance. Its also interesting how the ayatollah of unbridled American opportunity opens his road show at a private college and being hugged by its hereditary President Jerry Falwell Jr. An impressive pitch; the last time I saw one that good, I bought a ShamWow at the county fair.  It fell apart after a few months.

albrecht

Quote from: VtaGeezer on March 23, 2015, 09:26:50 AM
Just watched Ayatollah Rafael make his announcement sermon in front of a huge Jerry Falwell's Liberty University crowd.  Student attendance at the event (Monday Convocation) was mandatory btw..but he didn't mention that.  Kind of ironic that Mr Liberty announces his Presidential campaign at an event with enforced attendance. Its also interesting how the ayatollah of unbridled American opportunity opens his road show at a private college and being hugged by its hereditary President Jerry Falwell Jr. An impressive pitch; the last time I saw one that good, I bought a ShamWow at the county fair.  It fell apart after a few months.
It was a private school and students don't need to attend it. They could go to another college or university, a public one, or no school at all. And Obama, and his wife, have spoken several times at "black only" and even "all male" colleges, like Morehouse, etc (called "traditionally black" in our politically correct times which I guess make it better :o. No controversy, of course, to still publicly call a school in modern times "predominantly black" or to exclude females (or males) because a minority cannot be racist because they are a victim of evil capitalism and Western cultural hegemony.) Having said that the speeches he usually gave there were one of the very, very few that actually made sense. Although it was just simple common sense it was refreshing to hear to them say it (“Instead of walking miles every day to school, they’re sitting on couches for hours playing video games, watching TV. Instead of dreaming of being a teacher or a lawyer or a business leader, they’re fantasizing about being a baller or a rapper."-Michelle at Bowie State. Duh. People AT COLLEGE need to be told that? :o)

I like Ted Cruz on paper and like his filibuster and attempts to reign in Obama, but there is still something about him that feels smarmy lawyer.

VtaGeezer

Quote from: albrecht on March 23, 2015, 10:00:45 AM
It was a private school and students don't need to attend it. ...
But they DO need to attend the Monday Morning Convocation...it's mandatory. 

albrecht

Quote from: VtaGeezer on March 23, 2015, 10:07:37 AM
But they DO need to attend the Monday Morning Convocation...it's mandatory.
Sure. So? If you go to a parochial school some things are mandatory. Heck even public schools, supposedly, say you need to show up to class- some even make you attend a convocation with the whole school in which school announcements happen and the Pledge of Allegiance is said (horrible, where is the ACLU here?)

If you choose to go to a private, parochial, or religious school you attend whatever classes or ceremonies they stipulate. And if you don't like it you go somewhere else. Even Sidwell Friends, where Obama sends his children because he loves public education so much, has requirements to attend certain classes or meetings (though because it is Quaker they aren't into the same type of religious meetings/ceremonies as, say, a Catholic or Episcopal School would have.)

VtaGeezer

Quote from: albrecht on March 23, 2015, 10:21:48 AM
Sure. So? If you go to a parochial school some things are mandatory. Heck even public schools, supposedly, say you need to show up to class- some even make you attend a convocation with the whole school in which school announcements happen and the Pledge of Allegiance is said (horrible, where is the ACLU here?)

If you choose to go to a private, parochial, or religious school you attend whatever classes or ceremonies they stipulate. And if you don't like it you go somewhere else. Even Sidwell Friends, where Obama sends his children because he loves public education so much, has requirements to attend certain classes or meetings (though because it is Quaker they aren't into the same type of religious meetings/ceremonies as, say, a Catholic or Episcopal School would have.)
Once again, you demonstrate the conservative proclivity to ignore hypocrisy.  That Cruz picked a forum where a large crowd was guaranteed means nothing?  I have a hunch that no one watching Cruz preach to the crowd of thousands on Fox News heard that student attendance was mandatory.

albrecht

Quote from: VtaGeezer on March 23, 2015, 10:33:13 AM
Once again, you demonstrate the conservative proclivity to ignore hypocrisy.  That Cruz picked a forum where a large crowd was guaranteed means nothing?  I have a hunch that no one watching Cruz preach to the crowd of thousands on Fox News heard that student attendance was mandatory.
Wow, a politician doesn't speak to large crowds? You mean they don't have handlers and organizations to bus people in (maybe even pay)? Those Grecian columns just "happened" to be there for the Obama's apotheosis speech? Those crowds just happened upon a speech? Unions don't mandate strongly encourage that people show up to events?

Speaking about a captive audience remember when Obama demanded- luckily a lot of parents and schools pushed back- to speak directly to all our children by video in school? Without parents permission, with out even telling teachers, schools, or parent what the content would be? Remember that? Children, until parents and schools rebelled, had no choice but to listen to him. (As it turned out his speech wasn't that bad but still his idea of demanding to talk to directly to children without parent's permission or school's administration is disturbing and we really don't know what he original speech was going to be prior to the push-back by teachers and parents.)


Up All Night

Quote from: VtaGeezer on March 23, 2015, 10:33:13 AM
Once again, you demonstrate the conservative proclivity to ignore hypocrisy.  That Cruz picked a forum where a large crowd was guaranteed means nothing?  I have a hunch that no one watching Cruz preach to the crowd of thousands on Fox News heard that student attendance was mandatory.

Having tens of thousands show up (one way or another) for your speech = "You are qualified to successfully run the country." (Ummmm, I don't think so.)

That's exactly what we saw with Barry when he was running.

How's that turning out ????

I prefer Scott Walker over Ted Cruz.... Scott Walker has actually shown that he can stand up to the liberal enemy and win. It's the proven track record against crazy liberals that I'm looking at. Great speeches and filibusters that bust nothing, are not enough in this day and age.




VtaGeezer

Quote from: albrecht on March 23, 2015, 10:41:07 AM
Wow, a politician doesn't speak to large crowds? You mean they don't have handlers and organizations to bus people in (maybe even pay)? Those Grecian columns just "happened" to be there for the Obama's apotheosis speech? Those crowds just happened upon a speech? Unions don't mandate strongly encourage that people show up to events?

Speaking about a captive audience remember when Obama demanded- luckily a lot of parents and schools pushed back- to speak directly to all our children by video in school? Without parents permission, with out even telling teachers, schools, or parent what the content would be? Remember that? Children, until parents and schools rebelled, had no choice but to listen to him. (As it turned out his speech wasn't that bad but still his idea of demanding to talk to directly to children without parent's permission or school's administration is disturbing and we really don't know what he original speech was going to be prior to the push-back by teachers and parents.)
What part of "mandatory attendance"...at a political speech no less...don't you understand?  All while the speaker is spouting off about liberty?  Even though it was Jerry Falwell U, I suspect the kids wearing the "Stand with Rand" shirts probably didn't want to hear Mullah Ted's harangue or might have liked to wave a sign for Rand P.  Your blind spot is more like a dome.

National Journal, today:
"March 23, 2015 LYNCHBURG, Va.â€"Sen.  Ted Cruz took the stage to declare his presidential candidacy at Liberty University Monday, surrounded by upwards of 10,000 cheering students. They weren't all here by choice.

Attendance at convocation at Liberty is mandatory, and a group of students clad in "Stand With Rand" shirts sat center stageâ€"directly in view of the camerasâ€"to log their displeasure with having to be here.

"Of course, you want it to appear as if you have a large audience," said Eli McGowan, who organized the not-so-subtle protest. "We felt like if we didn't wear shirts showing our true political preference then the media might think we all supported Cruz."

"They make you come. If you don't come, you get punished," said Ana Delgado, a sophomore, who said students face a $10 fine for not showing up at convocation. Delgado wasn't among those wearing Paul gear. She is undecided about who she'll support in 2016, but she didn't like being forced to be part of Cruz's announcement."

VtaGeezer

Quote from: Up All Night on March 23, 2015, 11:00:05 AM
Having tens of thousands show up (one way or another) for your speech = "You are qualified to successfully run the country." (Ummmm, I don't think so.)

That's exactly what we saw with Barry when he was running.

How's that turning out ????
No one was forced to go to "Barry's" speech or be fined $10.  "Liberty U"? Right. 

BTW, it's working out great.  I guess you have no IRA, 401K or real property.

3OctaveFart

I don't believe Cruz is qualified to run for president, but the lying Kenyan circumnavigated it and such opened a Pandora's Box for generations.

albrecht

Quote from: VtaGeezer on March 23, 2015, 11:20:09 AM
No one was forced to go to "Barry's" speech or be fined $10.  "Liberty U"? Right. 

BTW, it's working out great.  I guess you have no IRA, 401K or real property.
Before parents and teachers pushed back Barry wanted to preach to school children without the schools', or even the parents', consent. Not adults, but children. Luckily people stood up to Barry and many schools opted-out or at least let teachers, or parents, choose whether to let their young children listen to this character. And we still don't know what the original speech was going to entail as it is very likely that it was changed when the American people pushed back against the Orwellian, top-down demands for the "dear leader" direct access to children via video broadcast to all schools.

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