Obama's Pastor

[FightTheFuture]

 I love these kinds of threads. It provides rational-minded people a fair bit of hilarity to watch the kooks on the left queue up in order to defend their prince, Barry Hussein Obama.

Just good, old-fashioned comedy!

[yumyumtree]

So let's get this straight; it's a scandal for a liberal politician to have sat occasionally in the congregation of a vary popular minister (also a veteran) who once uttered a controversial "God damn America" rhetorically in the context of centuries of slavery and racism, but its OK for conservatives to cozy up weekly to pedophile-protecting Cardinals, to support creationist preachers promoting ignorance, or to hug religious bigots.  The blind flag-snappers of the right never miss a chance at hypocrisy.

In a word, yes. Don't forget the timing if this. They were still bringing up bodies out of World Trade Center rubble. The Irving Berlin song God Bless America had become the unofficial anthem of the country that fall. What Wright said came very close to defending terrorists. I'm not defending the dysfunction in other faith communities and their leaders, but if I have to choose, I'll go with the Cardinals and creationists.

[albrecht]

So let's get this straight; it's a scandal for a liberal politician to have sat occasionally in the congregation of a vary popular minister (also a veteran) who once uttered a controversial "God damn America" rhetorically in the context of centuries of slavery and racism, but its OK for conservatives to cozy up weekly to pedophile-protecting Cardinals, to support creationist preachers promoting ignorance, or to hug religious bigots.  The blind flag-snappers of the right never miss a chance at hypocrisy.

I actually didn't mind when Obama's good friend and mentor said "God Damn America" (his other comments on race, the differences between black brains and white brains, the "musicality" of blacks could be something overheard at a Klan rally or some 19th century eugenics meetings though and were a little more disturbing.) But there is a grand tradition of "warning of God's judgement" in America. We were founded by folks who thought that if we didn't act correctly God would damn our country and ourselves. Before literature and history was banned by schools we used to have to read things like "Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God" by Jonathan Edwards (the Puritan; not the hair-grooming, philandering shyster politician) etc.

What was disturbing was how quickly Obama was willing to abandon a close-friend and mentor. A person who married them, baptized their children, and was their preacher for so to be so quickly derided and abandoned was a little disturbing. I recall thinking if he can shun such a person so close to him so quickly how can any voter trust him to stand by them if they vote for such a mysterious person?

[VtaGeezer]

What was disturbing was how quickly Obama was willing to abandon a close-friend and mentor. A person who married them, baptized their children, and was their preacher for so to be so quickly derided and abandoned was a little disturbing. I recall thinking if he can shun such a person so close to him so quickly how can any voter trust him to stand by them if they vote for such a mysterious person?

This "close-friend and mentor" part is popular conservative BS that keeps being repeated.  The Obamas were among 6000+ in Wright's congregation. Obama used a single Wright quote in his book, in the early 90s. They never has a personal relationship. Conflating Wright's position as pastor into some sort of personal spiritual advisor and mentor to Obama was and is BS.

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

It makes about as much sense to endlessly debate this topic as it does to rehash Joseph Kennedy's ties to organized crime, Richard Nixon's relationship with Bebe Rebozo, and Warren Harding's role in the Teapot Dome scandal.  What's done is done, you can't change history without a time machine, and wishing won't make it otherwise.  The show's over and the pony's dead, folks.  Time to move on. 

How about that George Noory?  He sure sucks, doesn't he?  "I have a TV show on the internet."

[Yorkshire pud]

How about that George Noory?  He sure sucks, doesn't he?  "I have a TV show on the internet."

If you're saying it, it's good enough for me; seriously. Incidentally, blues singers all wake up in the morning. Why is that?

[Tarbaby]

Unfortunately, every thread soon turns to a morass of political OCD polarized Playmore. It's already hard to remember that this thread began with the issue of That unstable reverend.

And I won't stand for people saying my friend Yorkey is full of shit; I'm pretty sure there is some liquor in there too.;-)

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

If you're saying it, it's good enough for me; seriously. Incidentally, blues singers all wake up in the morning. Why is that?

I've never understood that, because all the blues singers I've ever known didn't go to bed until a couple of hours after sunrise.  Maybe it's a euphemism.  I've heard that blues songs are full of them. 

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

And I won't stand for people saying my friend Yorkey is full of shit; I'm pretty sure there is some liquor in there too.;-)

I hope so, because I'd hate to believe a sober person would ever say some of the things he does around here.

[Tarbaby]

I hope so, because I'd hate to believe a sober person would ever say some of the things he does around here.

it's good that he has friends like us.

[Yorkshire pud]

it's good that he has friends like us.

I'm welling up here!! Both sleeves and the hem of my best going out dress have snot on them, It's great to have friends like you two. ...I'm glad you and RGG appreciate that I'm not full of shit though...and yes, I like to keep a modicum of alcohol in the environs of my blood stream...occasionally I let it lapse and it's almost all blood.

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

it's good that he has friends like us.

It sure is, because it takes two people to hold him up once he reaches his customary blood alcohol level.

[Yorkshire pud]

It sure is, because it takes two people to hold him up once he reaches his customary blood alcohol level.

I have absolut...sly no , dear wh....at, you........ooooer talking...boooot..

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

I'm welling up here!! Both sleeves and the hem of my best going out dress have snot on them, It's great to have friends like you two. ...I'm glad you and RGG appreciate that I'm not full of shit though...and yes, I like to keep a modicum of alcohol in the environs of my blood stream...occasionally I let it lapse and it's almost all blood.

Enough maudlin sentiment, already.  A nice card and maybe a bottle of wine would suffice as tokens of your gratitude.

And don't let your blood alcohol level lapse too much, because it weakens the immune system and that's how people get sick.

[Bart Ell]

I don't remember most of the joke... Something about Pastor Pussy getting stuck in a car with a female. Cop comes along, the Pastor says, "You don't understand, I am Pastor Pussy" and the cop says, "I don't care if you are halfway up her ass"

[PB the Deplorable]

This "close-friend and mentor" part is popular conservative BS that keeps being repeated.  The Obamas were among 6000+ in Wright's congregation. Obama used a single Wright quote in his book, in the early 90s. They never has a personal relationship. Conflating Wright's position as pastor into some sort of personal spiritual advisor and mentor to Obama was and is BS.

And Bill Ayres really was just a guy who happened to live in his neighborhood. 

Barry didn't actually have any friends or know anyone.

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

And Bill Ayres really was just a guy who happened to live in his neighborhood. 

Barry didn't actually have any friends or know anyone.

Man, you are tedious.  Don't you have any other broken records you can play over and over? 

[Kelt]

Can the butthurt Republicans go cry their tedious tears of frustration over on the politics board, please.

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

Maybe Stellar is more interested in creating division than actually making sense.

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

Maybe Stellar is more interested in creating division than actually making sense.

Are you insinuating that he doesn't always make sense?  Can you provide examples?

[Bart Ell]

Maybe Stellar is more interested in creating division than actually making sense.

If you want to see division you should check out that chicken thread... I'm just a simple man trying to bring a simple crazy chicken joint north of the border and everybody has to pipe in with their preferred chicken joints.

DIVIDED WE WILL FALL, CHICKEN LOVERS, DIVIDED WE WILL FALL!

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

If you want to see division you should check out that chicken thread... I'm just a simple man trying to bring a simple crazy chicken joint north of the border and everybody has to pipe in with their preferred chicken joints.

DIVIDED WE WILL FALL, CHICKEN LOVERS, DIVIDED WE WILL FALL!

In these troubled times, we need Frank Perdue more than ever.  He was a tough man who knew how to bring a chicken to its knees, or whatever the heck they have that passes for knees.

[VtaGeezer]

And Bill Ayres really was just a guy who happened to live in his neighborhood. 

Barry didn't actually have any friends or know anyone.

Basically; yes. An activist.  On the same university faculty as Obama.  Lived in the same U of C area. Anyone involved in Democrat politics in the Hyde Park/U of C area would have crossed paths with Ayres.   There's never been any indication that Obama and Ayres had anything but coincidental attendances at the same political events and served on the board of the same charity; though only for a short overlap.  Yet the right troops out the same old baseless smears whenever Obama's Chicago ties are mentioned.  It's been ten years since Obama's run for the Presidency began in Chicago...ample time for any investigator, conservative or not, to validate the right's accusations regarding some mentorship or close relationship between Obama and Wright and Ayres. Nada. Zip. The simple truth is easily available and uncomplicated.  That you still cling to the insinuations only shows that you aren't interested in any reality that conflicts with your childishly simplistic world view and ideology.

[Kelt]

Also, he's going to take away our guns and make us communist before putting us into Muslim death camps and turning us into Libtard fags right before he gasses us in the incinerators.

And all that other stuff.

[PB the Deplorable]

Man, you are tedious...

Perhaps so.

What I find tedious is the continuing denial of who this guy is, the disaster he is. 

Basically; yes. An activist.  On the same university faculty as Obama.  Lived in the same U of C area. Anyone involved in Democrat politics in the Hyde Park/U of C area would have crossed paths with Ayres.   There's never been any indication that Obama and Ayres had anything but coincidental attendances at the same political events and served on the board of the same charity; though only for a short overlap...

Well, there was the launch party/fundraiser that kicked off Obama's political career.  It was held in Bill Ayres living room.  Another radical, Alice Palmer, introduced him as her chosen successor as Illinois State Senator that night.

And it turns out the writing style in his two auto-biographies is remarkably similar to Bill Ayres writing style.  And remarkably dissimilar to Obama's

[VtaGeezer]

Well, there was the launch party/fundraiser that kicked off Obama's political career.  It was held in Bill Ayres living room.  Another radical, Alice Palmer, introduced him as her chosen successor as Illinois State Senator that night.

And it turns out the writing style in his two auto-biographies is remarkably similar to Bill Ayres writing style.  And remarkably dissimilar to Obama's

Deal with facts, not Breitbart-level innuendo. Ten years of rightwing bloggers later, still no proof whatsoever of close Obama-Wright or Obama-Ayres associations as the right still obsesses over.

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

There's a little local place that makes them with super lean pork that melts in your mouth and is seasoned to a perfection you want to last forever.  That never gets tedious!

And it turns out the writing style in his two auto-biographies is remarkably similar to Bill Ayres writing style.  And remarkably dissimilar to Obama's

Is that your own expert literary analysis, or are you just citing Jack Cashill without attribution? 

And you do know that Bill Ayers has been very critical of Obama's presidency, don't you?  Or is that just another devious deception designed to distract a credulous and apathetic public from discovering their diabolical master plan before it's too late? 

Unfortunately, it is too late to get some of those incomparable tacos al pastor.  Darn! 

[Yorkshire pud]

Perhaps so.

What I find tedious is the continuing denial of who this guy is, the disaster he is. 



Well, there was the launch party/fundraiser that kicked off Obama's political career.  It was held in Bill Ayres living room.  Another radical, Alice Palmer, introduced him as her chosen successor as Illinois State Senator that night.

And it turns out the writing style in his two auto-biographies is remarkably similar to Bill Ayres writing style.  And remarkably dissimilar to Obama's

For someone who hasn't much time for Obama, you 've invested a great deal of time and money in a calligraphy course and any and all that Democrats have had published to invest more time studying individual styles of writing. It's good though you devote so much on behalf of those who can't be arsed.

[FightTheFuture]

There's a little local place that makes them with super lean pork that melts in your mouth and is seasoned to a perfection you want to last forever.  That never gets tedious!


Is that your own expert literary analysis, or are you just citing Jack Cashill without attribution? 

And you do know that Bill Ayers has been very critical of Obama's presidency, don't you?  Or is that just another devious deception designed to distract a credulous and apathetic public from discovering their diabolical master plan before it's too late? 

Unfortunately, it is too late to get some of those incomparable tacos al pastor.  Darn!

It's no secret that Ayers wrote Obama's book. Bill Ayers has been very frank about it. He even said he wouldn't mind some royalties from the sales, but you'll never get Obama to admit that he wrote it for him.

The fact that Obama had a ghostwriter isn't really a big deal in and of itself. The fact that he took full credit for writing the book, and went gallivanting around the world perpetuating the lie, speaks to his character. And that is what is most disturbing.

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

"With organ Leroy at his organ again, and the Fifty-Voice St. Louis Aquarium Choir."

It's no secret that Ayers wrote Obama's book. Bill Ayers has been very frank about it. He even said he wouldn't mind some royalties from the sales, but you'll never get Obama to admit that he wrote it for him.

I can't prove that Ayers didn't write any of Obama's books.  Can you and Jack Cashill prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he did?