does being a bad person make me a bad person?

[BobGrau]

Getting mental health advice from BellGab is like getting religious tolerance advice from ISIS.

Depends what sort of advice you're looking for.

[Avi]

Keep meaning to say, it's nice to have you back.

Thank-you very much, Bob Grau. I appreciated your visions of fence-sitting kale.

[Avi]

Ahhh, I see. Well, I thought the reference to Billy Idol was a nice touch. Of course, why a professor would quote or refer to Mr. Idol is a bit puzzling. I thought of referring to Pink Floyd's THE WALL when disgustinghow someone who is afraid of their own feelings might build a wall but I felt it was a bit too Plebian.;-)
Will go digest your post above while you're gone.

I am a professor of ethnomusicology, so it is always difficult to limit my musical references. In this case, however, Billy provides just the right note of camp.

[Avi]

I have to figure out how to integrate "Walk with electro glide on the blue highway" into my next academic conversation.

Eddie Coyle will know, even though he's a real Smetana kind of guy.

[phrodo]

gnooryblows - IMHO you have two choices -
1 kill yourself before you kill countless innocent others.
2 get professional help

Well there's a third I guess ... do nothing - and I mean nothing. Stay away from all human contact so you don't kill countless innocent others.

Oh hell - now I thought of a fourth option... go to Iraq and kill a whole bunch of bad guys... but you would still be a bad person... just a useful bad person. 

[Camazotz Automat]

While I was, as usual, joking when I posted previously, this is my honest suggestion to YOU, assuming you are not pulling my prosthetic tentacle:

Use your skill set to modify the behavior of those fucking up your lake.

If you create change in your small corner of the world, and it's change that you want and of which you approve, it will create a great  sense of satisfaction for you which will help you navigate other areas as well.

Suggestions on behavior modification are limited to what you are willing to do and/or are interested in doing.

(Unless you find yourself waking up in The Village, in which case you will be forcibly modified or die.)

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[TheMan WhoFell ToEarth]

Have you ever considered joining the service?

[McPhallus]

Getting mental health advice from BellGab is like getting religious tolerance advice from ISIS.

Or logical, coherent philosophical insight from a Stellar thread.

[maureen]

Eddie Coyle will know, even though he's a real Smetana kind of guy.

Very clever!! How to describe one in musical styles?  Thank you for inspiring a Sunday meditation.

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

(Unless you find yourself waking up in The Village, in which case you will be forcibly modified or die.)

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FIFY.  Sorry, but the other picture isn't authentic and it was bothering me.

[Avi]

Very clever!! How to describe one in musical styles?  Thank you for inspiring a Sunday meditation.

Actually, Eddie does not strike me as a Smetana kind of guy. This came from a discussion we had back in 2011, wherein I told him the following:

I have to tell you that your user name has become my Capt. Tuttle:

"Are you coming to the faculty meeting?"
"No, I can't. I have a meeting with Eddie Coyle."
"Who?"
"Surely you can't have forgotten Eddie Coyle! He was just telling me how much he enjoyed your presentation on Smetana's orchestration. Said you threw back a few T&Ts afterward."
"Oh, yeah, Eddie. He was always a great Smetana kind of guy."
"Well, I'll tell him you said hello,"
"Ok, thanks."

Of course, descriptive musical motives can be quite wicked. 

[maureen]

Actually, Eddie does not strike me as a Smetana kind of guy. This came from a discussion we had back in 2011, wherein I told him the following:

I have to tell you that your user name has become my Capt. Tuttle:

"Are you coming to the faculty meeting?"
"No, I can't. I have a meeting with Eddie Coyle."
"Who?"
"Surely you can't have forgotten Eddie Coyle! He was just telling me how much he enjoyed your presentation on Smetana's orchestration. Said you threw back a few T&Ts afterward."
"Oh, yeah, Eddie. He was always a great Smetana kind of guy."
"Well, I'll tell him you said hello,"
"Ok, thanks."

Of course, descriptive musical motives can be quite wicked. 

  Wonderful!!  It reads like a cross 'twix Firesign Theatre and Harold Pinter!!

Mahler moments to you!  Cheers!   

[Camazotz Automat]

FIFY.  Sorry, but the other picture isn't authentic and it was bothering me.

Fixed it for me?  No thanks. Of course it's authentic. I didn't specify which Village. I'm gently pushing anyone interested toward the 2009 series.

Since you specified "isn't authentic" it makes me believe you have not seen it.

I would understand if you don't prefer it, but "isn't authentic" is incorrect.

(You will find no argument from me as to whether the original is better. It definitely is. If you have not seen the 2009 mini series, I really hope you choose to do so. It's definitely worth viewing.)

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I am posting this link, but if anyone plans to watch the series, I advise against reading too much, due to spoiling the experience. The ending (among many other things) is very different than the original series:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner_(2009_miniseries)

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[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

Fixed it for me?  No thanks. Of course it's authentic. I didn't specify which Village. I'm gently pushing anyone interested toward the 2009 series.

Since you specified "isn't authentic" it makes me believe you have not seen it.

I would understand if you don't prefer it, but "not authentic" is incorrect.

(You will find no argument from me as to whether the original is better. It definitely is. I'm really hoping you have not seen the 2009 mini series. It's definitely worth viewing.)

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I am posting this link, but if anyone plans to watch the series, I advise against reading too much, due to spoiling the experience:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Prisoner_(2009_miniseries)

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I realized that was a poor word choice right after I posted it, and I apologize, Cam.  I was trying to be cute and it came across all snarky.  I just feel that it was wrong to remake "The Prisoner" for the same reasons it would be wrong to remake "Casablanca" or "Once Upon a Time in The West."  Some things just can't be improved upon and should be left alone.  I can be an old fuddy duddy that way.  I actually did give it a chance when it aired, but I just couldn't come to terms with it.  However, from what I saw, I probably would have liked it if I'd never seen the original, or if they'd given it a different title and altered the story just enough so it stood on its own without inviting comparisons.  If it's on again, I will give it another chance and try to judge it on its own merits.  Be seeing you....

[Camazotz Automat]

I realized that was a poor word choice right after I posted it, and I apologize, Cam.  I was trying to be cute and it came across all snarky.  I just feel that it was wrong to remake "The Prisoner" for the same reasons it would be wrong to remake "Casablanca" or "Once Upon a Time in The West."  Some things just can't be improved upon and should be left alone.  I can be an old fuddy duddy that way.  I actually did give it a chance when it aired, but I just couldn't come to terms with it.  However, from what I saw, I probably would have liked it if I'd never seen the original, or if they'd given it a different title and altered the story just enough so it stood on its own without inviting comparisons.  If it's on again, I will give it another chance and try to judge it on its own merits.  Be seeing you....

No problem. Thanks for clarifying that for me. I knew you were aware of The Prisoner, and like most fans, you were almost certainly aware of the 2009 series, but was thrown off by the word in question. Now that I know you are a purist (of course), then I can agree with you that the 2009 is "not the real thing" i.e., isn't "authentic." heh

The way I got around my purist tendency was to view it as an extension and by the time it ended, it was so different in its conclusion that it worked for me. And you're right, by titling it the same, they immediately invited "remake" comparisons instead of letting it stand alone.

There is conflicting information as to whether Paddy was going to make a cameo appearance in it. I wish he had been alive to do so (or not.)

As far as something later and approved of by McGoohan that was "Prisoner related" I will have to settle for the 1998 "Ashes to Ashes" episode of Columbo. Did you know at the very end of that episode that Peter Falk slips in the words to Patrick, "It's your funeral" ?

Surely that was a subtle reference to The Prisoner episode of the same name? I choose to view it that way. If not, it's a good coincidence.  But difficult to say, given the nature of the story.

B.C.N.U.

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Thus ends the 1st Cycle

[Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost]

No problem. Thanks for clarifying that for me. I knew you were aware of The Prisoner, and like most fans, you were almost certainly aware of the 2009 series, but was thrown off by the word in question. Now that I know you are a purist (of course), then I can agree with you that the 2009 is "not the real thing" i.e., isn't "authentic." heh

The way I got around my purist tendency was to view it as an extension and by the time it ended, it was so different in its conclusion that it worked for me. And you're right, by titling it the same, they immediately invited "remake" comparisons instead of letting it stand alone.

There is conflicting information as to whether Paddy was going to make a cameo appearance in it. I wish he had been alive to do so (or not.)

As far as something later and approved of by McGoohan that was "Prisoner related" I will have to settle for the 1998 "Ashes to Ashes" episode of Columbo. Did you know at the very end of that episode that Peter Falk slips in the words to Patrick, "It's your funeral" ?

Surely that was a subtle reference to The Prisoner episode of the same name? I choose to view it that way. If not, it's a good coincidence.  But difficult to say, given the nature of the story.

B.C.N.U.

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Thus ends the 1st Cycle

It would have been a nice touch if Paddy had done a very brief cameo as the outgoing Number Two being hauled off to an unknown and probably most unpleasant fate at the beginning of the first episode.  And I liked the little nod they gave to the original when Number Six finds the old man who's wearing the old school Village blazer.

I don't recall that Columbo episode, but I know PM was in quite a few of them. 

BTW, have you ever seen this?  It's a reference to the British viewing public's reaction to the final episode.  People felt cheated and were so outraged, PM actually had to go into hiding for awhile because he was afraid of being torn limb from limb by angry mobs with torches and pitchforks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzUCCl9YaBQ

[ksm32]

I have no human emotions such as empathy, or kindness, or love. I feel horrible dirty or disgusting when I do something nice for someone or someone does something nice for me. I have zero use for people emotionally. I can watch bad things happen to people and not feel a shred of emotion or pity. I dont love women. I dont love men. I dont love friends. I dont love family.
I suffered a lifetime of abuse, being sexually raped anally as a child and tortured emotionally (sometimes physically) by my parents. Theres more too, much more that I dont feel like or have the time to go into detail on the internet.
I have no friends and dont want them. My life consists of me nocturnally stalking the streets and picking trash then selling it on the internet. If anybody tells me what to do it makes me want to hurt them. rather than get a job, I would go live in the woods and hunt/gather my own food and have done this in the past so I am very good with my primitive survivalism skills.
When I share my views people invariable sneer in disgust at me (see celebrity deaths thread for bellgab example) and often wish or threaten physical harm upon me.
I think that humans are ants, stupid dumb animals not worthy of the air they breathe.
Does this make me a "bad person"? does that even mean anything? I dont even know why im sharing this here, I think im more curious about what people will say.
edit: dont love friends

If you were happy while you entered this cry for thread attention you might be a "bad person" and you might consider suicide. It's all the rave these days

[Camazotz Automat]

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BTW, have you ever seen this?  It's a reference to the British viewing public's reaction to the final episode.  People felt cheated and were so outraged, PM actually had to go into hiding for awhile because he was afraid of being torn limb from limb by angry mobs with torches and pitchforks.

I had not seen that. Thanks!