Started by FightTheFuture, August 11, 2014, 10:40:15 AM
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Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on December 01, 2015, 12:23:13 PMSo you're saying you want more government?
Quote from: albrecht on December 01, 2015, 12:45:21 PMNo, just a shuffling of the cards. Defend OUR borders first, before we defend other's. Simple concept. Can one even be called a country if there is no border?
Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on December 01, 2015, 12:53:16 PMBorder control is one way the government defines who I can and can't hire. Crime is going to happen no matter what.
Quote from: albrecht on December 01, 2015, 12:56:12 PMTHOSE specific crimes, and so many countless others, would not have happened. Fine for you but for the raped girl or murder victims, and their families, would be happy if they didn't happen. And, at some point, it could effect you or someone you know or love. So importing more criminals will help? There are legal ways to get labor and I appreciate that no business owners wish to pay more, usually, but, I guess you would advocate slavery or some type of indentured servitude (often the illegals need to pay back their coyotes and snakeheads or work it off in the sex trade.)
Quote from: paladin1991 on December 01, 2015, 01:39:35 PMThat's a curious statement. Are there not enough Americans to hire?
Quote from: paladin1991 on December 01, 2015, 01:39:35 PMIf you have job openings, let me know, if skill sets match, maybe I'll jump ship and rep you in Idaho?
Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on December 01, 2015, 02:19:42 PMI'm in a niche market (software for biology) and sometimes a foreigner has a solution and I want to hire that person for 6 months of work. The time I tried to do this myself, I spent 60+ hours dealing with government BS. This shouldn't take me more than an hour to fill out a form. Instead, the hours I could spend on productive aspects of the business (such as training employees or helping customers find solutions) are spent wading through government rubble. There are consulting firms that do all of this for you for $$$ and I just pay them now when I need to. Trying to do it by myself was a disaster.I've got a small toehold up there right now. If it turns into more, I will let you know.
Quote from: albrecht on December 01, 2015, 02:28:25 PMBut, sorry, the social costs in crime, DUI accidents, healthcare, imprisonment, education, disease is not worth it to fill a few jobs in a niche biological software market. About the most fundamental thing a government is supposed to do is to defend its people and borders. We do so around the world for other people, why not here? Is it even a country if there is no border?
Quote from: pyewacket on March 14, 2016, 12:41:03 PMLooks like it's not progressive enough to just allow them to break our laws by entering the country illegally- now they can commit other crimes, including murder, and be released into our society because their countries won't take them back. We can have criminals with no respect for our laws or our lives roam free - such a deal for us!http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ice-124-illegal-immigrants-freed-from-jail-later-charged-with-murder/article/2585720
Quote from: FightTheFuture on August 11, 2014, 10:40:15 AMDon`t take MY word for it; take the majority leader`s:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JlmOwrjkvgAnd then there`s REALITY:http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/11/new-video-james-okeefe-crosses-the-border-as-osama-bin-laden/
Quote from: albrecht on April 07, 2016, 06:17:22 PMThe Obama administration demands even illegals who commit vehicular homicide, which they often do due to their love of drunk driving...