The Border is Secure

Started by FightTheFuture, August 11, 2014, 10:40:15 AM

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albrecht

http://www.mrctv.org/blog/obama-praises-cuban-dreamers-spanish-touts-opening-us#.lrjhpzv:mvPM
Even Nicaragua , the paradise with a thriving economy and culture, is securing their border and, yet, this character Obama is demanded, indeed accelerating and "streamlining" the import of unvetted Muslim radicals and still has an open-border with a Narco-state and is praising and encouraging more to come from anywhere in his quest to destroy "fundamentally change" the country. For someone who has gained so much wealth and power from it one must wonder why he has such a deep-seeded grudge against the country?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-11-16/cuban-migrant-wave-prompts-nicaraguan-military-to-seal-border

albrecht

More updates on the Obama Doctrine.

http://www.startribune.com/in-minnesota-and-nationally-deportations-drop-after-release-of-new-guidelines/352968261/#
"“These new guidelines have had a big impact,” said Susan Koberstein, a Twin Cities immigration attorney."
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/exclusive-150-flight-mexico-skip-customs-leave-jfk-article-1.2443629
"When the plane landed, passengers walked out of the airport without having their passports or bags checked by Customs and Border Protection, sources told The News."

albrecht

In Turkey. Because the beheaders, burning alivers, scalping, raping criminals are ok- if they are coming here from Mexico, El Salvador, Honduras, Syria, etc...we will encourage, or even patrol as in S.Korea defend, borders in other countries but not here. Leave it open and, heck, throw in some EBT cards and free legal aide and housing in that case....says Obama.
http://www.reuters.com/video/2015/12/01/obama-turkey-needs-to-close-gaps-in-bord?videoId=366520954&videoChannel=117760


Mind Flayer Monk

So you're saying you want more government?


Mind Flayer Monk

Quote from: albrecht on December 01, 2015, 12:45:21 PM
No, just a shuffling of the cards. Defend OUR borders first, before we defend other's. Simple concept. Can one even be called a country if there is no border?

Border control is one way the government defines who I can and can't hire.
Crime is going to happen no matter what.

albrecht

Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on December 01, 2015, 12:53:16 PM
Border control is one way the government defines who I can and can't hire.
Crime is going to happen no matter what.
THOSE specific crimes, and so many countless others, would not have happened. Fine for you but for the raped girls or murder victims, and their families, would be happy if they didn't happen. And, at some point, it could effect you or someone you know or love.

So importing more criminals will help?  :o There are legal ways to get labor and I appreciate that no business owners wish to pay more, usually, but, I guess you would advocate slavery or some type of indentured servitude (often the illegals need to pay back their coyotes and snakeheads or work it off in the sex trade.)

Mind Flayer Monk

Quote from: albrecht on December 01, 2015, 12:56:12 PM
THOSE specific crimes, and so many countless others, would not have happened. Fine for you but for the raped girl or murder victims, and their families, would be happy if they didn't happen. And, at some point, it could effect you or someone you know or love.

So importing more criminals will help?  :o There are legal ways to get labor and I appreciate that no business owners wish to pay more, usually, but, I guess you would advocate slavery or some type of indentured servitude (often the illegals need to pay back their coyotes and snakeheads or work it off in the sex trade.)

Big Brother ain't going to solve your problem, and you know this. This is how government gets bigger...someone says "let's cut government" and then someone else steps up and says "except for border security" and ten days later were stuck with the same growing government.

paladin1991

Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on December 01, 2015, 12:53:16 PM
Border control is one way the government defines who I can and can't hire.
Crime is going to happen no matter what.

That's a curious statement.  Are there not enough Americans to hire?  If you have job openings, let me know, if skill sets match, maybe I'll jump ship and rep you in Idaho?

Mind Flayer Monk

Quote from: paladin1991 on December 01, 2015, 01:39:35 PM
That's a curious statement.  Are there not enough Americans to hire?

I'm in a niche market (software for biology) and sometimes a foreigner has a solution and I want to hire that person for 6 months of work. The time I tried to do this myself, I spent 60+ hours dealing with government BS. This shouldn't take me more than an hour to fill out a form. Instead, the hours I could spend on productive aspects of the business (such as training employees or helping customers find solutions) are spent wading through government rubble. There are consulting firms that do all of this for you for $$$ and I just pay them now when I need to. Trying to do it by myself was a disaster.


Quote from: paladin1991 on December 01, 2015, 01:39:35 PM
If you have job openings, let me know, if skill sets match, maybe I'll jump ship and rep you in Idaho?
I've got a small toehold up there right now. If it turns into more, I will let you know.

albrecht

Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on December 01, 2015, 02:19:42 PM
I'm in a niche market (software for biology) and sometimes a foreigner has a solution and I want to hire that person for 6 months of work. The time I tried to do this myself, I spent 60+ hours dealing with government BS. This shouldn't take me more than an hour to fill out a form. Instead, the hours I could spend on productive aspects of the business (such as training employees or helping customers find solutions) are spent wading through government rubble. There are consulting firms that do all of this for you for $$$ and I just pay them now when I need to. Trying to do it by myself was a disaster.

I've got a small toehold up there right now. If it turns into more, I will let you know.
I'm sure the rabble flowing across our open border will fulfill your niche marketplace needs in biology software. ;) There are legal ways to hire people and fairly easy to get people from abroad if they are needed and properly educated. It sounds like your 'niche' would fulfill the needs perfectly for a H-1B Visa. Or make the prospective employee fill out the forms, or hire an HR or immigration attorney, to do the paperwork and you just sign/fill out your portion. Of course, if you must employ illegals you could simply get that person to visit here on a tourist visa (if he is even coming from a country that requires a visa to travel here) and pay him for those 6mths as a contractor/cash. Illegal but could be done, not that I advocate it. But, sorry, the social costs in crime, DUI accidents, healthcare, imprisonment, education, disease is not worth it to fill a few jobs in a niche biological software market. About the most fundamental thing a government is supposed to do is to defend its people and borders. We do so around the world for other people, why not here? Is it even a country if there is no border?

Mind Flayer Monk

Quote from: albrecht on December 01, 2015, 02:28:25 PM
But, sorry, the social costs in crime, DUI accidents, healthcare, imprisonment, education, disease is not worth it to fill a few jobs in a niche biological software market. About the most fundamental thing a government is supposed to do is to defend its people and borders. We do so around the world for other people, why not here? Is it even a country if there is no border?

Not worth the money at it's current levels and definitely shouldn't be increased.

albrecht

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/dec/8/border-children-surge-overwhelms-immigration-offic/
Even Obama is now admitted, finally, again, that the border is being assaulted and he can't handle it. Look forward to more DREAMERS or amnesty by "catch and release" policy in the future. (If you haven't already ensure that you have an uninsured motorist rider on your insurance policy and home alarm system and/or arms.)

Give this guy a DREAMER status Obama: he is a two-fer. Illegal and anti-cop!
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/12/09/toms-river-police-officer-dragged/

Give them tax rebates, Obama!
http://freebeacon.com/issues/illegal-immigrants-eligible-for-up-to-eight-refundable-tax-credits/


albrecht

Obama sends illegals to camp! Meanwhile there are actual children, American citizens, and even veterans who don't get to go on vacation, to go to camp, free healthcare, free legal aide, free food, free transportation, indoor pool to enjoy, etc. And providing them a Christmas (wait, what,  :o Christmas is racist/classic/Euro-centric/separation of church and state, issue etc?) About the ONLY place or situation will Obama support Christmas if it is tax-payer funded Christmases for illegals.
http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2015/12/11/undocumented-teens-spend-first-night-in-ellis-county/

albrecht

Maybe it would change this character Obama's open-border, pro-illegal, pro-refugee policies if his precious illegals, "refugess," and gang-members would enroll at Sidwell Friends or live in his neighborhood instead of our public schools and community? How would his policies change if his family had to deal with them on a daily basis? Instead of the mayhem that occurs daily in the rest of the country? Now, in the past few years, even in N.Va and Montgomery Cty etc (which are pretty rich areas and where many highly paid Federal government agency and political aides live?)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/new-gang-murder-attackers-allegedly-stabbed-then-threw-rocks-at-victim/2015/12/24/2bdd57c6-aa56-11e5-8058-480b572b4aae_story.html

albrecht

According to Obama's DHS over 500,000 people have "over-stayed," to use their term, their VISAs. Hhis government can't/won't track them, find them, or deport them.
http://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/01/19/dhs-releases-entryexit-overstay-report-fiscal-year-2015
(Not that this only includes the Visa Waiver Program or "B Visa" (short-term: usually for temporary work, meetings, etc or tourism)- not all the other types of VISAs in which significant numbers of individuals also "over-stay."

Meanwhile Obama's precious illegals (just a grab bag of the usual high-jinx. Many more stories out there:)
http://www.timesdaily.com/news/crime/suspected-illegal-immigrant-pleads-guilty-in-child-abuse-trial/article_c2b7d952-6d62-5404-a806-0f371b5cba2b.html


What is his name? Nobody knows. Hey, illegal, how are you, or your brood, going to get an EBT card, free legal advice, some tax refunds, subsidized housing, or "Dreamer" status from Obama if you won't tell people your name? Ok, that's right you could just use a few of your multiple identities and SS numbers. Sorry, carry on. Si Se Puede!, to quote Obama plagiarizing from Cesar Chavez.
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/howie_carr/2016/01/carr_can_t_pin_one_name_to_alien_of_the_week






albrecht

""We might as well abolish our immigration laws altogether," suggested agent Brandon Judd, president of the National Border Patrol Council."
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/border-agent-we-might-as-well-abolish-our-immigration-laws-altogether/article/2582401

Here is an interesting article about the Obama Doctrine of open-borders, "refugees" sent to small towns and rural areas, his gangs, and the rape culture practiced by many of his illegals:
http://thehayride.com/2016/02/special-report-how-immigration-into-the-us-has-become-a-haven-for-criminals-drug-cartels-gangs/

No word if Obama has granted Sr. Rios-Covarrubias "catch and release" or DREAMER status, yet.
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/mesa/2016/01/21/immigration-hold-placed-suspect-accused-duct-taping-mesa-girl/79124860/


albrecht

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/as-immigration-resurges-us-public-schools-help-children-find-their-footing/2016/02/07/6855f652-cb55-11e5-ae11-57b6aeab993f_story.html
The Post tries to spin that it is positive that our already burdened public schools need to deal with all the uneducated, illiterate (often even in their native tongue,) and even sometimes diseased or criminal immigrant children, often illegal. We even give them 'free' meals; my local school system that they are even going to provide dinners! Because so many of the students won't get fed by their parents. Dinner! These are the kind of people we want to come to our country- they won't even feed their own children?

albrecht

Obama gave at least $750 million of our tax dollars to illegals (or others that could not be verified) through his Obamacare system according to one report. The government accounting practices and revisions being what they are nobody is really sure how much he has given away. Keep in mind this is counting all the other give-aways to his illegals at the State and National level but only the give-aways generated through his Obamacare scheme.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/02/08/senate-report-illegal-immigrants-benefited-from-up-to-750m-in-obamacare-subsidies.html

albrecht

Obama demands those with some more venereal diseases, to ramp his decision earlier to demand that HIV/AIDS afflicted to be allowed in, be allowed into the US, because, as his minions figure, the costs will only be less than $100 million. I'm sure they will all have private health insurance also.
http://www.law360.com/articles/750329/hhs-removes-3-stis-from-list-barring-immigrant-entry

While it is true that many of Obama's precious illegals rape and commit other crimes like murder more commonly they are involved in things like drunk driving accidents, petty theft, drug dealing and things like that- but, for the victims of Obama's precious illegals, a drunk driving accident, and other crimes, the results can still be tragic. Here is just one quick example. But you can look at your local news or police report and find stories like this daily.
http://www.ketv.com/news/iteam-authorities-search-for-fugitive-may-be-undocumented-immigrant/38132844

Here is some more on Obama's "catch and release" policy for criminal illegals in hopes of hurting the USA or getting votes or something like fundamental change, I guess.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/22/report-nearly-90000-illegal-immigrant-criminals-released/
Remember, of course, due to the Obama Doctrine of open-borders and limited enforcement on the border there are many, many more illegals out there, often of a criminal or diseased bent, that have never even been caught and never benefited from the Obama's administration "catch-and-release" or DREAMER status (or the free housing, free transport, free legal aid, free healthcare, and so forth accorded to certain precious illegals.)



albrecht

Ignore the messenger, breitbart or me, but read the message. Can you imagine having your child killed or tortured to death simply so a certain Party can get votes, or so some companies can get cheaper labor, or so Obama can ruin the country? Obama and certain Republicans and most Democrats can claim all day long how great open-borders are and how illegals are great but how many lives are worth those new votes, that cheap lawn service, your cheaper nanny? What number of rapes or DUI accidents are acceptable for that cheap labor?
http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/05/mom-son-murdered-illegal-alien-reject-rubio-deliver-justice-american-victims/

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/03/05/mom-son-murdered-illegal-alien-reject-rubio-deliver-justice-american-victims/

pyewacket

Looks like it's not progressive enough to just allow them to break our laws by entering the country illegally- now they can commit other crimes, including murder, and be released into our society because their countries won't take them back. We can have criminals with no respect for our laws or our lives roam free - such a deal for us!

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ice-124-illegal-immigrants-freed-from-jail-later-charged-with-murder/article/2585720

albrecht

Quote from: pyewacket on March 14, 2016, 12:41:03 PM
Looks like it's not progressive enough to just allow them to break our laws by entering the country illegally- now they can commit other crimes, including murder, and be released into our society because their countries won't take them back. We can have criminals with no respect for our laws or our lives roam free - such a deal for us!

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ice-124-illegal-immigrants-freed-from-jail-later-charged-with-murder/article/2585720
""We may be admitting individuals who wish to do us harm, or who do not meet the requirements for a visa," John Roth, the Inspector General for the Department of Homeland Security, told a Senate Homeland Security Committee hearing."
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/study-finds-u-visa-security-weaknesses-system-slow-161020107.html

henge0stone

Quote from: FightTheFuture on August 11, 2014, 10:40:15 AM
Don`t take MY word for it; take the majority leader`s:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JlmOwrjkvg




And then there`s REALITY:


http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/11/new-video-james-okeefe-crosses-the-border-as-osama-bin-laden/


Didn't Hillary say in a debate not too long ago that the border was secure? Not that it matters since she has pledged to break the law and not deport anyone.

starrmtn001

Chairman Gowdy: The President Does Not Make Law

https://youtu.be/91oaLzYDG94

albrecht

Just another day in Obamaland:
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2016/03/illegals_held_in_vicious_framingham_rape
"Federal immigration officials are requesting detainers on four illegal aliens accused of a heinous attack on a Framingham couple in which the woman was raped and her boyfriend was beaten and threatened with death, the Herald has learned.  Two of the illegals had previously been deported to Guatemala, said Immigration and 
Customs Enforcement spokesman Shawn Neudauer."

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/mar/21/ms-13-gang-killings-linked-to-immigrant-surge/
"The notoriously violent MS-13 street gang, known for slashing victims to death with knives and machetes, is reviving its brutal brand of violence to reassert its dominance in the Washington metropolitan area â€" with authorities linking at least eight homicides in Virginia and Maryland over the past year to the gang."

albrecht

Just another day in Obamaland:
The article does not mention if the illegal, Jose Alejandro Najarro, has been granted DREAMER status or can vote via NPNA, yet.

http://kxan.com/2016/03/28/kyle-man-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-impregnating-12-year-old/

On the good side the tax-payers will get another excuse for some more childcare in our schools, free meals in our schools (now including dinner often,) and some more EBT cards to dish out!

http://dailycaller.com/2016/03/28/obama-admin-funds-blitz-to-naturalize-anti-trump-voters/

albrecht

Just another day in Obamaland.  :-[  If they aren't purposely committing rapes and other crimes his illegals often do so much damage when they enjoy their drunk driving game, as in the case of an illegal named Margarito Quintero who was driving drunk and, as often in the cases of illegals, did also not have a driver's license. He was a previously deported illegal allowed back in over Obama's open-border. I doubt he was insured also- not that that would be any solstice to the devastated family and community. No word if he will be granted DREAMER status upon any recovery.

"An illegal alien who hit a Texas firefighter head-on and killed him and his four-year-old stepdaughter and 22-month-old son will be charged with criminally negligent homicide if he recovers from his critical injuries."

http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/04/05/driver-who-struck-killed-north-texas-firefighter-may-face-charges/#.VwRFDsjtQ3w.twitter

"Sources tell CBS 11 News the male driver of the van who killed Nevada volunteer fire Captain Peter Hacking and his kids did not have a driver’s license and will be charges with Criminally Negligent Homicide when and if he recovers from critical injuries.  KRLD’s LP Phillips confirmed with ICE on Tuesday evening that the driver is in the country illegally.   According to ICE, Margarito Quintero entered in the country in 2006 & was deported in 2008."

albrecht

The Obama administration demands even illegals who commit vehicular homicide, which they often do due to their love of drunk driving, "“Even if he were convicted of the offense, motor vehicle homicide â€" driving under the influence, the conviction would not constitute a crime of violence under the immigration laws, and consequently, would not constitute an aggravated felony,” she wrote. “The conviction would not render him subject to mandatory detention, nor would it significantly impact his eligibility to apply for relief or protection from removal.”"
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/apr/4/vehicular-homicide-not-enough-detain-illegal-immig/

Just another day in Obamaland:
http://savannahnow.com/news/2016-04-07/two-illegal-aliens-sentenced-lengthy-prison-terms-lifetime-robation-2014-abductio
http://www.eastidahonews.com/2016/04/man-sentenced-for-abominable-heartbreaking-rape-of-11-year-old-girl/

NowhereInTime

Quote from: albrecht on April 07, 2016, 06:17:22 PM
The Obama administration demands even illegals who commit vehicular homicide, which they often do due to their love of drunk driving...

Ahhhh!  Refreshing!  Glad to see the never ending stereotypical mythical perpetuation and persecution of NOT! LIKE! US! hasn't left the Loony Bin (even if Art has)!

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