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Nancy Pelosi Gets Upset After CNN Doesn’t Provide Chance For Any Partisan Shots

Started by Quick Karl, July 27, 2014, 05:45:33 PM

Quick Karl

http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/27/nancy-pelosi-gets-upset-after-cnn-doesnt-provide-chance-for-any-partisan-shots-on-republicans/

"Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi was grilled by CNN’s Candy Crowley on Sunday about President Obama’s response to an aggressive Russia and the Israeli government’s behavior in Gaza â€" but all she really wanted to do was talk about Republicans".

You're shitting me...

Quote from: Quick Karl on July 27, 2014, 05:45:33 PM
http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/27/nancy-pelosi-gets-upset-after-cnn-doesnt-provide-chance-for-any-partisan-shots-on-republicans/

"Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi was grilled by CNN’s Candy Crowley on Sunday about President Obama’s response to an aggressive Russia and the Israeli government’s behavior in Gaza â€" but all she really wanted to do was talk about Republicans".

You're shitting me...
Yes, they are shitting you.  Watch the actual video you posted in the link, moron.

Quick Karl

Quote from: RealCool Daddio on July 27, 2014, 05:51:15 PM
Yes, they are shitting you.  Watch the actual video you posted in the link, moron.

"Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi was grilled by CNN’s Candy Crowley on Sunday about President Obama’s response to an aggressive Russia and the Israeli government’s behavior in Gaza â€" but all she really wanted to do was talk about Republicans".

Moron

Quote from: Quick Karl on July 27, 2014, 06:35:37 PM
"Democratic House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi was grilled by CNN’s Candy Crowley on Sunday about President Obama’s response to an aggressive Russia and the Israeli government’s behavior in Gaza â€" but all she really wanted to do was talk about Republicans".

Moron
In other words, you didn't watch it.  Too busy with the weekend sausage fest?

Edit:  for shits and giggles, here is the transcript of the interview, from CNN:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1407/27/sotu.01.html

CROWLEY: With me now on a busy Sunday morning, House Democratic Leader, Nancy Pelosi, it's very good to see you.

REP. NANCY PELOSI (D), MINORITY LEADER: Good morning.

CROWLEY: I want to talk about presidential leadership here. You know, growing up, it was always the leader of the western world now we're the world's only superpower. And yet the president is taking a lot of criticism at this point for seeming to be sitting on the sidelines. He's out fund raising and the world seems to be blowing up. I know you were with him at a couple of these fund-raisers.

So, you know, the optics of this and you know, photo-ops matter, optics matter. Have they (INAUDIBLE) on the White House on this?

PELOSI: First of all let me disagree with the -- when we were growing up, you after me, but we were in a bipolar word, the Soviet Union and the United States. It's a much more complicated situation now and the president's leadership has been strong. And the issues you are dealing with this morning, the president was in the lead on supporting Iron Dome and asking for more resources now to help Israel defend itself, which it has as right to do.

In the lead for asking for humanitarian assistance for the Palestinian people, $47 million to go through the U.N. to help those calling upon others to help negotiate not only a cease-fire, but a peace there. The President and Secretary Kerry's presence there is a manifestation of the President's commitment because it's a sustained high level commitment of the secretary of state representing the administration.

When it came to the Ukraine, the president, early on, called for sanctions. And then last Wednesday, before the plane was shot down, the president asked for sector sanctions, even stronger ones.

CROWLEY: But the notion -- the notion that Putin sort of sized up President Obama and said, he backed off on Syria, he's playing footsy with Iran, he's a softie. He's not going to stop me. Has anything happened that should dissuade Putin from that?

PELOSI: Putin is going to do what Putin is going to do. And it won't add up in terms of statement -- statesmanship or leadership. As the president has said, Russia is now a regional power.

Some of what we see comes from insecurity. Putin, for all of his -- is insecure about Russia's role in the world now. What's happened in Eastern Ukraine, the shooting to begin with, the aggression and then the complicity.

And by the way, the administration early on getting out there and saying we have the intelligence to say that these rockets had a provenance in Russia as well as the ability to launch them. So, nobody is missing in action in all of this.

And as far as Putin is concerned, he's a KGB guy who happens to be the president of Russia and he's going to do what he's going to do no matter who else is in charge any other place in the world. So, I would not judge his actions or his motivations by anything other than he is rooted in the KGB, insecure about Russia's diminished role in the world.

CROWLEY: Right. But certainly closing waves globally at this point.

I want to move you to the Middle East and ask you your comfort level with what you are seeing on television. Again, the headlines versus the ground.

PELOSI: Well again, as we all have said, any country has a right to defend itself when it is under assault and so, too, does Israel. You have been there. You know the proximity. Everything is very, very close to each other. And so, a threat is a proximate threat. It's there.

Again, I repeat that, thank God for Iron Dome which has diminished the casualties that would have been caused if these rockets or missiles were coming in -- CROWLEY: Have they gone too far? Does it look as though Israel

has gone too far? You heard Ben Rhodes, from the president's -- Deputy National Security Adviser, who said, we told them -- we think they could be doing more. Should Israel be doing more to protect civilians in Gaza?

PELOSI: Well, we all -- war is a deadly thing. And I have many Palestinians who live in my district and I am hearing them regularly about how their families are affected who live in the region. It's a terrible thing. But let me just say that any missile that comes from someplace has a return address. And if Israel is responding to that address, then that's a shame that the Palestinians are use -- are rumored to be using children and families as shields for their missiles.

Should we all try to, first of all, avoid conflict, the Hamas initiated this. So again, this has to be something where we try to have the two-state solution, that we have to support -- we have to support Abbas and his role as a leader there. We have to support Iron Dome to protect the Israelis from the missiles. We have to support the Palestinians and what they need. And we have to confer with the Qataris, who have told me over and over again that Hamas is a humanitarian organization, maybe they could use their influence to -

(CROSSTALK)

CROWLEY: The U.S. (INAUDIBLE) organization though, correct, to you?

PELOSI: Mmm-hmm.

CROWLEY: Yes.

PELOSI: We've had that discussion.

CROWLEY: I have to leave it there. I hope you will come back and we will talk politics and mid-term and all kinds of things going on (INAUDIBLE). I appreciate your time..

PELOSI: I think it's important to note though, that through all of this, the Republicans are trying to sue the president on a path to impeach the president while we're trying to create jobs and have stability in our country and in the world. And I'm sorry that we didn't get a chance to talk more about that.

CROWLEY: We will do that the next time, I promise. Thank you so much.

PELOSI: Thank you.

CROWLEY: I really appreciate it.


Now, QK, where is the grilling?  Where is Pelosi "only talking about Republicans"?

Quick Karl

PELOSI: I think it's important to note though, that through all of this, the Republicans are trying to sue the president on a path to impeach the president while we're trying to create jobs and have stability in our country and in the world. And I'm sorry that we didn't get a chance to talk more about that.

By her own words, dickbreath, not only is she peddling pure bullshit about creating JOBS, and stability (the precise opposite is the reality and the border  issue should be enough for even a mindless moron to get that), "the Republicans" IS what she wanted to talk about, because the country is half infected with total douche bags like you - fortunately for the sane half of this country, Crowley didn't give her the chance to - and THAT in and of itself should be a RED FLAG to blistering asshole idiots like you.

Moron

Now get back to stalking little kids to molest.

Quote from: Quick Karl on July 27, 2014, 07:49:53 PM
PELOSI: I think it's important to note though, that through all of this, the Republicans are trying to sue the president on a path to impeach the president while we're trying to create jobs and have stability in our country and in the world. And I'm sorry that we didn't get a chance to talk more about that.

By her own words, dickbreath, not only is she peddling pure bullshit about creating JOBS, and stability (the precise opposite is the reality and the border  issue should be enough for even a mindless moron to get that), "the Republicans" IS what she wanted to talk about, because the country is half infected with total douche bags like you - fortunately for the sane half of this country, Crowley didn't give her the chance to - and THAT in and of itself should be a RED FLAG to blistering asshole idiots like you.

Moron

Now get back to stalking little kids to molest.
You really are obsessed with kids and sex, aren't you?  I'll be sure to keep mine away from you.  Yep, I have four of them - and none were consigned to the orphanage.  You might find this interesting - they were conceived by having sex with my lovely wife.  Now I know it is rude of me to point this out, since you have never had consensual sex with any human being (guess that goes without saying, given your hideous demeanour, your alarming and deviant issues with children, and well, smelling of sausages all the time), but hell - sometimes us normals can't help poking fun at freaks like you! 

Back on topic, a 5 second blurb at the end of a 5 minute interview does not prove your point.  In fact, it disproves it. 

Moron.

And here are some more facts for you:

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Source: addictinginfo.org

Why do you tea baggers hate America so much?  Why do you want your countrymen to live in the same sausage filled squalor as you?  Why don't you want them gainfully employed, so that they might pursue life, liberty and happiness?

Thankfully, you and your ilk are a small, illiterate, feckless bunch (although dangerously sexually deviant), and have been effectively eliminated from having any ongoing politician influence.  God bless America!

Quick Karl

Quote from: RealCool Daddio on July 27, 2014, 08:25:14 PM
You really are obsessed with kids and sex, aren't you?  I'll be sure to keep mine away from you.  Yep, I have four of them - and none were consigned to the orphanage.  You might find this interesting - they were conceived by having sex with my lovely wife.  Now I know it is rude of me to point this out, since you have never had consensual sex with any human being (guess that goes without saying, given your hideous demeanour, your alarming and deviant issues with children, and well, smelling of sausages all the time), but hell - sometimes us normals can't help poking fun at freaks like you! 

Back on topic, a 5 second blurb at the end of a 5 minute interview does not prove your point.  In fact, it disproves it. 

Moron.

And here are some more facts for you:

[attachimg=1]

Source: addictinginfo.org

Why do you tea baggers hate America so much?  Why do you want your countrymen to live in the same sausage filled squalor as you?  Why don't you want them gainfully employed, so that they might pursue life, liberty and happiness?

Thankfully, you and your ilk are a small, illiterate, feckless bunch (although dangerously sexually deviant), and have been effectively eliminated from having any ongoing politician influence.  God bless America!

You stupid moron your little graphic doesn't mean shit until you compare it to the NUMBER OF PEOPLE UNEMPLOYED - which ALWAYS sky rockets when one of your communist idols gets in office. Also, you conveniently DO NOT MENTION if those Jobs you want people to believe that the genius democrats "created" are anything more than Wal-Mart and/or McDonald's MINIMUM WAGE jobs - but for someone like you, that IS a career move, so your incompetence is understandable!

Just go buy a rope, string it over a tree branch, and do your parents a favor and redeem their self-respect by hanging yourself.

Fucking fraud.

Quote from: Quick Karl on July 27, 2014, 08:46:27 PM
You stupid moron your little graphic doesn't mean shit until you compare it to the NUMBER OF PEOPLE UNEMPLOYED - which ALWAYS sky rockets when one of your communist idols gets in office. Also, you conveniently DO NOT MENTION if those Jobs you want people to believe that the genius democrats "created" are anything more than Wal-Mart and/or McDonald's MINIMUM WAGE jobs - but for someone like you, that IS a career move, so your incompetence is understandable!

Just go buy a rope, string it over a tree branch, and do your parents a favor and redeem their self-respect by hanging yourself.

Fucking fraud.

It's a little weird how often the teabaggers on the Internet, like Karl here, get caught posting links that don't support their posts AT ALL.  It's almost as if they enjoy being cornholed.

Quote from: RealCool Daddio on July 27, 2014, 07:07:08 PM
Now, QK, where is the grilling?  Where is Pelosi "only talking about Republicans"?

That is SO sweet.  Karl pulls down his pants, grabs his ankles, and walks backwards into prison AGAIN!

Nancy Pelosi is a local politician around here.  I've watched her since the beginning.  She is a first class panderer, and extremely partisan.  And a hypocrite.

She is quite stupid, and needs a tele-prompter even more than Obama does

Quote from: Quick Karl on July 27, 2014, 08:46:27 PM
You stupid moron your little graphic doesn't mean shit until you compare it to the NUMBER OF PEOPLE UNEMPLOYED - which ALWAYS sky rockets when one of your communist idols gets in office. Also, you conveniently DO NOT MENTION if those Jobs you want people to believe that the genius democrats "created" are anything more than Wal-Mart and/or McDonald's MINIMUM WAGE jobs - but for someone like you, that IS a career move, so your incompetence is understandable!

Just go buy a rope, string it over a tree branch, and do your parents a favor and redeem their self-respect by hanging yourself.

Fucking fraud.
Just called my parents, they are good with my continued existence.  How about you call yours and confirm the same?  Oops, that's not gonna happen is it?

So, if these jobs that democrats create are so lousy, at Walmart, McD's, etc., why do you tea bag freaks scream bloody murder that the foreigners are taking them?  Why do you fight raising the minimum wage? 

I'll tell you what - because you are stupid and hateful, and you just do whatever the old white men tell you to do do.  You are a fucking sausage making slave, and you are too dumb to realize it.  Thankfully, us folks on the left - the real Americans - are doing all we can to keep you safe, fed, and in your case, heavily medicated.  We care about our fellow citizens, even those as staggeringly stupid as you.

This has been a real slice, QK, but I gotta get to work.  Putting together a proposal for a $75 million dollar software program.  But that's why I make the big bucks, as the saying goes.  Have a good day at the sausage factory!

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: RealCool Daddio on July 28, 2014, 05:06:17 AM
Just called my parents, they are good with my continued existence.  How about you call yours and confirm the same?  Oops, that's not gonna happen is it?

So, if these jobs that democrats create are so lousy, at Walmart, McD's, etc., why do you tea bag freaks scream bloody murder that the foreigners are taking them?  Why do you fight raising the minimum wage? 

I'll tell you what - because you are stupid and hateful, and you just do whatever the old white men tell you to do do.  You are a fucking sausage making slave, and you are too dumb to realize it.  Thankfully, us folks on the left - the real Americans - are doing all we can to keep you safe, fed, and in your case, heavily medicated.  We care about our fellow citizens, even those as staggeringly stupid as you.

This has been a real slice, QK, but I gotta get to work.  Putting together a proposal for a $75 million dollar software program.  But that's why I make the big bucks, as the saying goes.  Have a good day at the sausage factory!


He shouldn't get that bad a rap..by his own admission he shot a coyote (Not cleanly) and it was still living when he got to it. I bet he got a hard on, so he's not entirely without a sex life. While he's got his gurns, he's a patriot; although not enough to go on a march he promoted.

Quick Karl

Quote from: Paper*Boy on July 27, 2014, 10:17:38 PM
Nancy Pelosi is a local politician around here.  I've watched her since the beginning.  She is a first class panderer, and extremely partisan.  And a hypocrite.

She is quite stupid, and needs a tele-prompter even more than Obama does

I agree with you 99% - but she isn't stupid, she KNOWS the intellectual and critical thought limitations of her audience, along with their lack of any moral compass, or the simple concept of decency to fellow citizens, and works them like Rembrandt worked a paint brush.

Quick Karl

Quote from: RealCool Daddio on July 28, 2014, 05:06:17 AM
Putting together a proposal for a $75 million dollar software program.  But that's why I make the big bucks, as the saying goes.  Have a good day at the sausage factory!

Another "Internet Millionaire"...

Fucking pathetic.

Quote from: Paper*Boy on July 27, 2014, 10:17:38 PM
Nancy Pelosi is a local politician around here.  I've watched her since the beginning.  She is a first class panderer, and extremely partisan.  And a hypocrite.

She is quite stupid, and needs a tele-prompter even more than Obama does
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Accepting all of the above, arguendo, does not disprove the fact that Karl lied when writing the title of this thread.

That's the thing you teabaggers just don't seem to understand: lying has consequences.  Think of how many voters said to themselves, "Sure, Obama is inept, but those right wingers are a bunch of unrepentant, lying cocksuckers.  I'll go with the lesser of the evils."  Maybe enough to swing the election.

b_dubb

if the Rabid Right didn't misrepresent the facts they'd have to shoot themselves.  and then the world would be a better place.  and they just couldn't handle that.

Quote from: DigitalPigSnuggler on July 28, 2014, 07:15:00 AM
...That's the thing you teabaggers just don't seem to understand: lying has consequences...


Sure we do.  Bush isn't and wasn't one of ours anymore than the current Republican leadership in the House and Senate are.  I guess that's the thing the people cleverly shouting 'teabagger' don't understand.

By the way, people are catching on that instead of being this cool unflappable guy - and just so smart - Obama is just another lying dirt bag politician - whose alliances are questionable.  It's probably the top reason the D's are going to get creamed in the November elections.

onan

Quote from: Paper*Boy on July 28, 2014, 03:14:16 PM

Sure we do.  Bush isn't and wasn't one of ours anymore than the current Republican leadership in the House and Senate are.  I guess that's the thing the people cleverly shouting 'teabagger' don't understand.

By the way, people are catching on that instead of being this cool unflappable guy - and just so smart - Obama is just another lying dirt bag politician.  It's probably the top reason the D's are going to get creamed in the November elections.

Creamed? as in the opposing party always (or almost) gains seats after a presidential election.

I wonder who it was that was able to take your party away from you?  Bush wasn't yours? well he sure as hell wasn't mine. And during that election, all my conservative friends were slapping themselves on the back with that win. But now... not yours. Clinton did nafta but I admit he was a democrat.

Someone here the other day lambasted Kerry for marrying into money... twice, yet left McCain alone... ok I digress.

So Bush wasn't yours... fuck you guys really are disorganized.

Quote from: onan on July 28, 2014, 03:30:23 PM
Creamed? as in the opposing party always (or almost) gains seats after a presidential election.

I wonder who it was that was able to take your party away from you?  Bush wasn't yours? well he sure as hell wasn't mine. And during that election, all my conservative friends were slapping themselves on the back with that win. But now... not yours. Clinton did nafta but I admit he was a democrat.

Someone here the other day lambasted Kerry for marrying into money... twice, yet left McCain alone... ok I digress.

So Bush wasn't yours... fuck you guys really are disorganized.


There has been a struggle for control of the party since at least the days of Goldwater and Wm F Buckley.  The Nelson Rockefeller wing of east coast country club establishment Republicans vs them, the Reaganites, and others.  Over the years the base has been Conservative, the people who get themselves elected mostly haven't been - although they understand they need to claim to be in order to be elected.

The tip off should have been when Bush II said he was a 'compassionate' Conservative.  As if small government, low taxes, and opportunity for all isn't compassionate.

Actually, the tip off should have been the name 'Bush'.  The Bush family and their allies fought hard against Reagan in 1976 and 1980 and even before that when Reagan expressed interest in being President.  It was Bush I who coined the term 'voodoo economics'.   Bush was forced on Reagan as VP by the party during the convention, and later as president did everything he could to distance himself from Reagan.  He was nominated in the hopes it would essentially be a third Reagan term, and he was fired when it turned out not to be (no one knew who Clinton was, they just didn't want a second Bush term).

So, not one of us.


As far as people cheering when Bush II won, remember he was claiming to be a Conservative.  That continues to fool the folks not paying much attention.  And remember 'Clinton fatigue' - Al Gore was not a popular choice.  What I remember about that election was no one on either side was too excited with either candidate. 

A sitting President is hard to beat, especially when the challenger is second or third rate.  The 2004 election with John Kerry featured a third rate candidate.  To me the Swift Boat revelations didn't much matter - he is a traitor for coming back from Viet Nam and lying in his testimony before Congress about the actions of our troops there, and for then going to Paris and advising the North Vietnamese to stall in the Peace Accord talks because the US was losing the war of public opinion in the streets here.  So yeah, I was happy Bush II won both of those times, as the lesser evil.

In hindsight, Gore would have probably spent less than Bush II, would not have cut taxes without also reducing spending.  Who knows how he would have responded to 9/11, probably not by starting those two stupid wars. 

But up to that time the D's were the big spenders, and the D's always seemed to be in office when we entered the major wars of the 20th Century.  Based on that, and Bush II being a pretty good governor, there was no way of knowing he would be as bad as he turned out to be.



Believe me, after the wretched Dole campaign, the Bush II Presidency, the horrible campaigns of McCain and Romney, and the Obama Presidency and the current Republican 'leadership', the Conservatives are finally mostly awake.  It's going to be difficult, but waking people up is the first step in taking back the Party, then taking back the country.

"...That's the thing you teabaggers just don't seem to understand: lying has consequences..."

Quote from: Paper*Boy on July 28, 2014, 03:14:16 PM
Sure we do. 

No, you do not.  Karl just told a deliberate, stupid, and shameless lie about Pelosi.  All anyone had to do was click on his link to discover that it WAS a lie.  Caught with his pants down, not only does Karl not express any remorse for lying, but neither does any other neocon.  Karl, in fact, has probably gone on to repeat this lie elsewhere.  Why shouldn't he be doing that?  He has no regrets about doing it nor being caught at it.  Nor does he need to worry about losing credibility if he does it and gets caught again -- you fuckin teabagpushers think it's okay to lie about Pelosi or Obama or anyone else you dislike.

And all that being the case, who is to say that your entire political viewpoint isn't built on sand?  That it has been formed based on false information and anecdotes from the Karls of the world?  Every single political belief you hold may be based on a lie, or series of lies, while those you deride on the left have been basing theirs on the truth.

Pshaw, I hear you scoff.  That's impossible.  Sure, some of the stuff I've heard and agreed with may be lies, but they can't ALL be lies.  Well, why not?  Does a group of lies suddenly acquire some level of truthfulness once you aggregate enough of them together? 

Catsmile

Quote from: onan on July 28, 2014, 03:30:23 PM
Creamed? as in the opposing party always (or almost) gains seats after a presidential election.

I wonder who it was that was able to take your party away from you?  Bush wasn't yours? well he sure as hell wasn't mine. And during that election, all my conservative friends were slapping themselves on the back with that win. But now... not yours. Clinton did nafta but I admit he was a democrat.

Someone here the other day lambasted Kerry for marrying into money... twice, yet left McCain alone... ok I digress.

So Bush wasn't yours... fuck you guys really are disorganized.

You Sir, are quite the diplomat, as evidenced by your last sentence.
The only thing I would have changed about the whole thought is the last word, in the last sentence. Disorganized would become delusional, but that wouldn't exert a positive influence on discourse. 

Quick Karl

Quote from: onan on July 28, 2014, 03:30:23 PM
Creamed? as in the opposing party always (or almost) gains seats after a presidential election.

I wonder who it was that was able to take your party away from you?  Bush wasn't yours? well he sure as hell wasn't mine. And during that election, all my conservative friends were slapping themselves on the back with that win. But now... not yours. Clinton did nafta but I admit he was a democrat.

Someone here the other day lambasted Kerry for marrying into money... twice, yet left McCain alone... ok I digress.

So Bush wasn't yours... fuck you guys really are disorganized.

Bush was just as much a scumbag piece of shit as is Obama. Can I make that any clearer?

What people like you refuse to do, is precisely that which you demand your philosophical opponents do, unless you're making-believe you are objective and can actually consider a contrasting argument on its merits, then you whine like fat red-headed step-children when things don't go your way.


onan

Quote from: Quick Karl on July 28, 2014, 04:43:27 PM
Bush was just as much a scumbag piece of shit as is Obama. Can I make that any clearer?

What people like you refuse to do, is precisely that which you demand your philosophical opponents do, unless you're making-believe you are objective and can actually consider a contrasting argument on its merits, then you whine like fat red-headed step-children when things don't go your way.

Oh the irony.

b_dubb

I'm just going to stop posting here and start talking at a wall. More productive.

Quote from: Quick Karl on July 28, 2014, 06:10:41 AM
Another "Internet Millionaire"...

Fucking pathetic.
Sounds like someone's jealous.

News for you, Sparky - the high tech sector is one of the few that America can still lay claim to global leadership.  And certainly makes more sense than an economy based on bible printing, ammunition sales and sausage manufacturing.

Quote from: Paper*Boy on July 28, 2014, 04:00:33 PM

There has been a struggle for control of the party since at least the days of Goldwater and Wm F Buckley.  The Nelson Rockefeller wing of east coast country club establishment Republicans vs them, the Reaganites, and others.  Over the years the base has been Conservative, the people who get themselves elected mostly haven't been - although they understand they need to claim to be in order to be elected.

The tip off should have been when Bush II said he was a 'compassionate' Conservative.  As if small government, low taxes, and opportunity for all isn't compassionate.

Actually, the tip off should have been the name 'Bush'.  The Bush family and their allies fought hard against Reagan in 1976 and 1980 and even before that when Reagan expressed interest in being President.  It was Bush I who coined the term 'voodoo economics'.   Bush was forced on Reagan as VP by the party during the convention, and later as president did everything he could to distance himself from Reagan.  He was nominated in the hopes it would essentially be a third Reagan term, and he was fired when it turned out not to be (no one knew who Clinton was, they just didn't want a second Bush term).

So, not one of us.


As far as people cheering when Bush II won, remember he was claiming to be a Conservative.  That continues to fool the folks not paying much attention.  And remember 'Clinton fatigue' - Al Gore was not a popular choice.  What I remember about that election was no one on either side was too excited with either candidate. 

A sitting President is hard to beat, especially when the challenger is second or third rate.  The 2004 election with John Kerry featured a third rate candidate.  To me the Swift Boat revelations didn't much matter - he is a traitor for coming back from Viet Nam and lying in his testimony before Congress about the actions of our troops there, and for then going to Paris and advising the North Vietnamese to stall in the Peace Accord talks because the US was losing the war of public opinion in the streets here.  So yeah, I was happy Bush II won both of those times, as the lesser evil.

In hindsight, Gore would have probably spent less than Bush II, would not have cut taxes without also reducing spending.  Who knows how he would have responded to 9/11, probably not by starting those two stupid wars. 

But up to that time the D's were the big spenders, and the D's always seemed to be in office when we entered the major wars of the 20th Century.  Based on that, and Bush II being a pretty good governor, there was no way of knowing he would be as bad as he turned out to be.



Believe me, after the wretched Dole campaign, the Bush II Presidency, the horrible campaigns of McCain and Romney, and the Obama Presidency and the current Republican 'leadership', the Conservatives are finally mostly awake.  It's going to be difficult, but waking people up is the first step in taking back the Party, then taking back the country.
If you chaps on the right can't even manage your own party, over the 20 year period you just outlined, why in in the world would anyone trust you to run an actual country? You guys are like the Keystone Kops, pouring out of a clown car and distributing cases of New Coke to folks leaving a screening of Heaven's Gate.


b_dubb

Quote from: Quick Karl on July 28, 2014, 06:10:41 AM
Another "Internet Millionaire"...

Fucking pathetic.
I hate it when people innovate and shit. Fucking productive assholes.

Quote from: b_dubb on July 28, 2014, 07:11:09 PM
I hate it when people innovate and shit. Fucking productive assholes.
You're right, I should be ashamed.  And fuck those 250 jobs we are going to create.  Let them eat sausage.

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