Alien Abduction

[albrecht]

So when an illegal kidnaps a woman or girl again is that properly called an "alien abduction?" Or is it only an "alien abduction" when a cartel or coyote kidnaps an illegal? Just some of the countless examples of our friendly illegals committing heinous crimes here (often after being caught or even released under the Obama Doctrine) or being victims of same in their attempt to travel here.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/idaho-man-charged-with-keeping-woman-as-sex-slave/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_San_Fernando_massacre

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/17/murder-suspected-crossed-border_n_5594838.html

[NowhereInTime]

So when an illegal kidnaps a woman or girl again is that properly called an "alien abduction?" Or is it only an "alien abduction" when a cartel or coyote kidnaps an illegal? Just some of the countless examples of our friendly illegals committing heinous crimes here (often after being caught or even released under the Obama Doctrine) or being victims of same in their attempt to travel here.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/idaho-man-charged-with-keeping-woman-as-sex-slave/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_San_Fernando_massacre

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/17/murder-suspected-crossed-border_n_5594838.html

:

Please don't quit your day job.  (God I hope this isn't your day job!)

[pate]

I once thought that band names should follow this sequence:

Illegal Alien Abduction.

or [Two phrase:phrase Three]

Subsistence Farmer Bankruptcy

Hard Thinking American

...but then I gave up...

[AZZERAE]

Has anybody been abducted by aliens?

I would appreciate them sharing their stories.

[Quick Karl]

So when an illegal kidnaps a woman or girl again is that properly called an "alien abduction?" Or is it only an "alien abduction" when a cartel or coyote kidnaps an illegal? Just some of the countless examples of our friendly illegals committing heinous crimes here (often after being caught or even released under the Obama Doctrine) or being victims of same in their attempt to travel here.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/idaho-man-charged-with-keeping-woman-as-sex-slave/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_San_Fernando_massacre

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/17/murder-suspected-crossed-border_n_5594838.html

Do you like how nitwit could not defeat your thesis with reason and logic, so he went right to the school yard tactic?

[Yorkshire pud]

So when an illegal kidnaps a woman or girl again is that properly called an "alien abduction?" Or is it only an "alien abduction" when a cartel or coyote kidnaps an illegal? Just some of the countless examples of our friendly illegals committing heinous crimes here (often after being caught or even released under the Obama Doctrine) or being victims of same in their attempt to travel here.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/idaho-man-charged-with-keeping-woman-as-sex-slave/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_San_Fernando_massacre

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/17/murder-suspected-crossed-border_n_5594838.html

Well, if it's a competition between home grown murderers and other miscreants and immigrants, the home grown will win hands down.

[albrecht]

Well, if it's a competition between home grown murderers and other miscreants and immigrants, the home grown will win hands down.

Sure, simply due to the population*. Sheer numbers of course there would be more "native" crime numbers (even if this statistic is also skewed based on race and demographic between citizens.) On a per capita basis it is the opposite. As well as the percentage of "non-citizens" in our prisons (Federal and State.) (Of course I understand that often being poor, uneducated, and not knowing the language might mean more convictions over a citizen so might be skewed, a bit.) And as the border remains open and as more and more illegals, already convicted of crimes such as rape and murder, are released under the Obama Doctrine there will be a tipping point by which the crimes caused by illegals (or illegals granted amnesty or their brood that would be now citizens) will be greater than the native citizens. In places like LA this might have already happened.

But that is beside the point.

It is easy to talk about numbers- but to the individual who is raped, or child whose mother was killed by the drunk-driving illegal, the parents of the kidnapped girl, the murder victim's family, etc they don't care if "they are only a statistic." And, "who cares?" because a citizen also sometimes commits those crimes. For THAT specific victim, THAT specific crime would not have occurred if the illegal was not allowed into the country- or as is often the case- released back into the community after committing another crime.

And we have enough problems. How is importing MORE problems supposed to help solve the problems with regard to crime, income inequality, supposed 'war on women', health system, education, etc?

*According to PEW Research (a highly suspect group) the current population of illegals in the USA is ~3-5% of the population, of which 52% is Mexican.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/07/24/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/

ps: the question remains. What is an "alien abduction?":
-when an illegal kidnaps a citizen, as so often happens
or
-if an illegal is kidnapped by another illegal or person, as often happens

[albrecht]

Has anybody been abducted by aliens?

I would appreciate them sharing their stories.

Much of the time the aliens kidnap children and due to their age and trauma they are unlikely to speak publicly about their abduction or rape- if they are lucky enough not to be killed by the alien. But, unfortunately, it happens all the time.
http://www.wwmt.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/Hernandez-Gomez-pleads-guilty-to-third-degree-criminal-sexual-conduct-167997.shtml

http://www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-me-sex-offender-immigration-20150721-story.html

Here is the other type of "alien abduction;" in which it is the alien that is kidnapped by fellow aliens and/or others.
http://www.kgns.tv/news/headlines/Undocumented-immigrants-held-captive-and-tortured-258619781.html

This is why I think we need a new term or to clarify the definition of "alien abduction" because there are too main types: the usual (the alien, usually illegal, kidnaps a citizen) and another type that is still frequent (when the alien, usually illegal, is kidnapped by coyotes, cartels, or another alien, often illegal, or citizen.)

[Yorkshire pud]

Sure, simply due to the population*. Sheer numbers of course there would be more "native" crime numbers (even if this statistic is also skewed based on race and demographic between citizens.) On a per capita basis it is the opposite. As well as the percentage of "non-citizens" in our prisons (Federal and State.) (Of course I understand that often being poor, uneducated, and not knowing the language might mean more convictions over a citizen so might be skewed, a bit.) And as the border remains open and as more and more illegals, already convicted of crimes such as rape and murder, are released under the Obama Doctrine there will be a tipping point by which the crimes caused by illegals (or illegals granted amnesty or their brood that would be now citizens) will be greater than the native citizens. In places like LA this might have already happened.

But that is beside the point.

It is easy to talk about numbers- but to the individual who is raped, or child whose mother was killed by the drunk-driving illegal, the parents of the kidnapped girl, the murder victim's family, etc they don't care if "they are only a statistic." And, "who cares?" because a citizen also sometimes commits those crimes. For THAT specific victim, THAT specific crime would not have occurred if the illegal was not allowed into the country- or as is often the case- released back into the community after committing another crime.

And we have enough problems. How is importing MORE problems supposed to help solve the problems with regard to crime, income inequality, supposed 'war on women', health system, education, etc?

*According to PEW Research (a highly suspect group) the current population of illegals in the USA is ~3-5% of the population, of which 52% is Mexican.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/07/24/5-facts-about-illegal-immigration-in-the-u-s/

ps: the question remains. What is an "alien abduction?":
-when an illegal kidnaps a citizen, as so often happens
or
-if an illegal is kidnapped by another illegal or person, as often happens

It's a worry deciding which it is that's for sure.

[AZZERAE]

Much of the time the aliens kidnap children and due to their age and trauma they are unlikely to speak publicly about their abduction or rape- if they are lucky enough not to be killed by the alien. But, unfortunately, it happens all the time.
http://www.wwmt.com/news/features/top-stories/stories/Hernandez-Gomez-pleads-guilty-to-third-degree-criminal-sexual-conduct-167997.shtml

http://www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-me-sex-offender-immigration-20150721-story.html

Here is the other type of "alien abduction;" in which it is the alien that is kidnapped by fellow aliens and/or others.
http://www.kgns.tv/news/headlines/Undocumented-immigrants-held-captive-and-tortured-258619781.html

This is why I think we need a new term or to clarify the definition of "alien abduction" because there are too main types: the usual (the alien, usually illegal, kidnaps a citizen) and another type that is still frequent (when the alien, usually illegal, is kidnapped by coyotes, cartels, or another alien, often illegal, or citizen.)

Thanks for this, Albrecht!

I refer to the extraterrestrial type of alien abduction here: I'd like to find out if anyone has had an encounter with an alien being?

[Yorkshire pud]

Thanks for this, Albrecht!

I refer to the extraterrestrial type of alien abduction here: I'd like to find out if anyone has had an encounter with an alien being?

Yes; my first wife was one.

[AZZERAE]

my first wife was one.

Was the sex any good?

I recall how tantric Pamela Stonebrooke said her reptilian encounter was.

[albrecht]

Was the sex any good?

I recall how tantric Pamela Stonebrooke said her reptilian encounter was.

And also how uncomfortable Dave Norry was when he was confronted with the possibility of alien (especially reptilian) sex! Art handled that subject and Pamela in a great, and funny, manner. Norry was afraid.

[AZZERAE]

And also how uncomfortable Dave Norry was when he was confronted with the possibility of alien (especially reptilian) sex! Art handled that subject and Pamela in a great, and funny, manner. Norry was afraid.

I was not aware that Dave interviewed Miss Stonebrooke!

You learn something new every day.

[albrecht]

I was not aware that Dave interviewed Miss Stonebrooke!

You learn something new every day.

Date:    Sunday - March 24, 2002
Host:    George Noory
Guests:    Pamela Stonebrooke
He mentioned this in some interview about how he wanted to "change direction" of the show as an early example of his uncomfortableness with the subject and his desire to go into other areas; like health and politics (though he "doesn't do politics")

[Yorkshire pud]

Was the sex any good?

I recall how tantric Pamela Stonebrooke said her reptilian encounter was.

Frankly I don't remember mutch other than her second head.

[AZZERAE]

Date:    Sunday - March 24, 2002
Host:    George Noory
Guests:    Pamela Stonebrooke
He mentioned this in some interview about how he wanted to "change direction" of the show as an early example of his uncomfortableness with the subject and his desire to go into other areas; like health and politics (though he "doesn't do politics")

Thank you for this show date info, Albrecht.

Frankly I don't remember mutch other than her second head.

LOL

[NowhereInTime]

Do you like how nitwit could not defeat your thesis with reason and logic, so he went right to the school yard tactic?

Do you like how qunt Karl gives credence to an offensive and absurd thesis and he uses it in attempt to discredit me when I give it the sarcastic response it warranted?

Clown shoes.  You should entertain children's birthday parties,  but I doubt any parent would want you around their kids.

[albrecht]

Do you like how qunt Karl gives credence to an offensive and absurd thesis and he uses it in attempt to discredit me when I give it the sarcastic response it warranted?

Clown shoes.  You should entertain children's birthday parties,  but I doubt any parent would want you around their kids.

This one is the example of the second accepted definition in that it was an alien, illegal, who was kidnapped by other aliens, also illegal. Hopefully they will be billed for the services of these peace officers and all the illegals, including the victim, will be deported after serving their sentences. More likely, under the Obama Doctrine, they have all likely been released, maybe even with EBT cards or other government assistance, into your community.
http://www.flhsmv.gov/FHP/////photogallery/2007/PG040907.htm

[NowhereInTime]

This one is the example of the second accepted definition in that it was an alien, illegal, who was kidnapped by other aliens, also illegal. Hopefully they will be billed for the services of these peace officers and all the illegals, including the victim, will b
e deported after serving their sentences. More likely, under the Obama Doctrine, they have all likely been released, maybe even with EBT cards or other government assistance, into your community.
http://www.flhsmv.gov/FHP/////photogallery/2007/PG040907.htm

What is the "Obama Doctrine" and would you please provide a link so that any interested party may review it?

[albrecht]

What is the "Obama Doctrine" and would you please provide a link so that any interested party may review it?

Most newspapers use the term "Obama Doctrine" to mean his appeasement strategy in foreign policy with regard to radical Islam, China, foreign countries, and so forth. I use the term to refer to the open-border, pro-immigrant (including illegal alien) agenda, and his animosity towards this country (at least toward many of its citizens and veterans and how the country was before Obama's reign.) As an example, he won't lower the flag for dead Marines shot by a Muslim immigrant because he really could care less, except that the incident might cause a backlash and harm Muslims or immigrants. I'm not saying he supports anything like that or encourages it on purpose, just that citizens' security doesn't concern him as much as more important agendas such as the BLGT issues, Muslims, other countries, immigrants, etc. Only after people questioned, and even the usual acquiescence media wondered, why the flag wasn't lowered did he finally order it done. So for political reason, purely and done very grudgingly. Sure it is only symbolic (we should be more outraged over yet another immigrant, this time a Muslim, shooting people not on whether a flag is raised or lowered. But it shows his mindset. Always look after OTHER countries, OTHER citizens, Islam, immigrants, as first priority.)

This agenda gives free healthcare, schooling, legal aid, transportation, and sometimes even EBT cards and housing to illegals, and their brood, and allows veterans to be put on secret waiting lists and won't even fire VA officials who make jokes about veteran suicide.

Admittedly, (VA and immigration) the situation was not caused solely by Obama (Bush and previous administrations back decades looked the other way or had no problem with the VA problems or illegal (and legal immigration.) Obama has just expanded the problems in his rush to "fundamentally transform" the country he hates. Though I would say the country's fate was likely sealed, effectively, in 1965 with Hart-Cellar Act, it just takes decades to "wind down."

[FightTheFuture]

What is the "Obama Doctrine" and would you please provide a link so that any interested party may review it?

Appeasement through acquiescence.

[Quick Karl]

Do you like how qunt Karl gives credence to an offensive and absurd thesis and he uses it in attempt to discredit me when I give it the sarcastic response it warranted?

Clown shoes.  You should entertain children's birthday parties,  but I doubt any parent would want you around their kids.

You're getting all emotional, nitwit. Is your boyfriend fucking someone else behind your back?

[NowhereInTime]

You're getting all emotional, nitwit. Is your boyfriend fucking someone else behind your back?

Yes, apparently your wife.  Happiest she's been in years...

[NowhereInTime]

Appeasement through acquiescence.

Such as? 

[Yorkshire pud]

Yes, apparently your wife.  Happiest she's been in years...

At least now she's not second place to QK's collection of guns and old targets. Must be gratifying that she's the centre of attention for once; well more than once now, QK can only manage a wank if he has a photo of his hero Phil the beard to get him going.

[Eddie Coyle]

Such as?

  That you're a scumfuck faggot.

[Yorkshire pud]

  That you're a scumfuck faggot.

I bet he isn't.

[Eddie Coyle]

I bet he isn't.

http://youtu.be/fnTbO26u9bQ

[NowhereInTime]

  That you're a scumfuck faggot.

How about that! And you're a cumsuck faggot!


Insatiable, too!  Let me get rehydrated, baby.