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Started by nbirnes, December 13, 2013, 11:13:22 AM

Ms. C

Quote from: EarthAlien007 on November 03, 2015, 03:06:25 PM
You really sound like someone with a personal ax to grind. And a troll.

+1
He's been here since July of this year and the 8 posts have been pure negative ... And Not only towards Nancy or this thread!

SkinnyBob

Quote from: EarthAlien007 on November 03, 2015, 03:06:25 PM
You really sound like someone with a personal ax to grind. And a troll.

No, me and others, have standards and have voiced our criticism.  Nancy just can't take constructive criticism AT ALL.  The criticism turns into a short rant because of her inability to self reflect.

EarthAlien007

Quote from: SkinnyBob on November 03, 2015, 03:15:26 PM
No, me and others, have standards and have voiced our criticism.  Nancy just can't take constructive criticism AT ALL.  The criticism turns into a short rant because of her inability to self reflect.

I haven't seen any constructive criticism from you. You've made 9 posts here and 6 of them are attacking Nancy.
Pretty sure that defines a troll.


SkinnyBob

Quote from: Ms. C on November 03, 2015, 03:14:29 PM
+1
He's been here since July of this year and the 8 posts have been pure negative ... And Not only towards Nancy or this thread!

Well to be exact, 5 of those posts were in this thread, one was about a specific guest (Basiago), and another was about a topic (Black eyed Kids).  I wouldn't call my first post of a single smiling emoji as a negative post.

Yes there is no doubt I will use BellGab to occasionally vent my frustration with topics, guests, or hosts.  I think that's partly why it's so popular?   :P

EarthAlien007

Quote from: SkinnyBob on November 03, 2015, 03:23:35 PM
Well to be exact, 5 of those posts were in this thread, one was about a specific guest (Basiago), and another was about a topic (Black eyed Kids).  I wouldn't call my first post of a single smiling emoji as a negative post.

Yes there is no doubt I will use BellGab to occasionally vent my frustration with topics, guests, or hosts.  I think that's partly why it's so popular?   :P

You're spending most of your posting time ragging on one person.
Where is all this anger coming from?
Have you checked you meds?
Please do...

SkinnyBob

Quote from: EarthAlien007 on November 03, 2015, 03:21:22 PM
I haven't seen any constructive criticism from you. You've made 9 posts here and 6 of them are attacking Nancy.
Pretty sure that defines a troll.

I've posted a link to a comment on last nights show three times now which sums up the criticism she has received from many listeners since they have been on Dark Matter.  People criticizing Nancy for her constant interrupting is nothing new.

I think my points have been made and I don't need to respond anymore.

EarthAlien007

Quote from: SkinnyBob on November 03, 2015, 03:28:10 PM
I've posted a link to a comment on last nights show three times now which sums up the criticism she has received from many listeners since they have been on Dark Matter.  People criticizing Nancy for her constant interrupting is nothing new.

I think my points have been made and I don't need to respond anymore.

So what?
I'd be willing to bet you posted there, too.

BC

Quote from: SkinnyBob on November 03, 2015, 03:28:10 PM
...I don't need to respond anymore.

The last part of your rant is about all I can agree with!

BobGrau

Quote from: Paper*Boy on November 03, 2015, 01:47:57 PM
I'd suggest Nancy is the one with anger issues - the continual dusty old 1960s divisive feminism crap, constant references to the gender of who's doing or saying what, and insisting any criticism of her stems from misogyny.


I could agree with most of this, though not the 'anger issues' part - nobody's at their best when being baited on the internet. I'm sure one could dig up and isolate some unpleasant-seeming behavioural patterns of yours in the politics section, for example.


Anyway, as usual I just wanted to say can't people just be a bit nicer etc. I'm one of life's more timid little flowers in real life, and I've always hated this idea that such people will somehow benefit from being stamped on repeatedly.

WhiteCrow

Quote from: EarthAlien007 on November 03, 2015, 03:21:22 PM
I haven't seen any constructive criticism from you. You've made 9 posts here and 6 of them are attacking Nancy.
Pretty sure that defines a troll.

What the F is that all about.   Shame on you rude people.. Go pick on me you etards if need to attack  someone.


Praise MV.     Love Nancy


wr250

Quote from: SredniVashtar on November 03, 2015, 02:03:22 PM
As I now consider myself a radio professional, I fully endorse whatever my fellow broadcasters happen to have said, however libellous or deranged.
even the noory to noory am "medical" shows?
what about dead children and mean babies ?

WhiteCrow

Quote from: BC on November 03, 2015, 05:24:48 PM
Exactly!

Thanks BC! Why would anyone want to post such mean things about sweet Nancy?

Ms. C

💜💜 Team Nancy. 💜💜

ponyboysunset

Quote from: Ms. C on November 03, 2015, 06:05:44 PM
💜💜 Team Nancy. 💜💜
+1

There is nothing constructive about calling someone a terrible host or telling them to get their shit together. Some of us actually have feelings and try very hard at what we do. It's rude and mean spirited. You also could have emailed her privately instead of humiliating her here. Bullies piss me off. You have nothing better to do then pick on a radio host on a free network. Lmao! Seriously?

ponyboysunset

The thing about feminism is that it is necessary. As someone who is a double minority (lesbian)and who still doesn't make as much as her male counter parts, I am grateful for the movement these women started. We still have a long way to go. Does this mean I hate men? No, but I am damn sure equal in the tech field as them and it's complete bullshit I don't make the same amount of money. I also have to put up with a lot of 'well all you need is a good dicking' cracks because I am an attractive woman who likes other women. Because you know, only butches and ugly women can be gay, and I just need a man to show me the right way. (By the way this is never funny at all, it's hurtful. Like I don't know what I like so a man needs to guide me?)So misogyny exists, whether you want it to or not.  Does that mean all men are misogynists, no it doesn't. And again if you don't like Nancy or her views turn off the radio whatever you are listening on, there are plenty of other choices out there.

PS before any of you assume I am sleeping with Nancy (that's why I am defending her and how I got on the show) I assure you I am not. LOL! ;)


Quote from: BobGrau on November 03, 2015, 05:05:14 PM
I could agree with most of this, though not the 'anger issues' part - nobody's at their best when being baited on the internet. I'm sure one could dig up and isolate some unpleasant-seeming behavioural patterns of yours in the politics section, for example.

Anyway, as usual I just wanted to say can't people just be a bit nicer etc. I'm one of life's more timid little flowers in real life, and I've always hated this idea that such people will somehow benefit from being stamped on repeatedly.

I listened to a Future Theatre show awhile back because MV was the guest.  Afterwards someone posted complaints in general terms about Nancy that were about the same reaction I had, and then - like now - people rushed to her defense.  That poster was not wrong, and I posted exactly what I thought she does on the show in agreement - constantly interrupting everyone and jumping from topic to topic rather than letting them play out - because it's quite annoying.  Another poster agreed with this.   

For this we were called 'misogynistic.  That was her response.  And she didn't take it back when confronted.

It has become quite common in our society for people of a certain political persuasion to smear anyone they don't like, or who disagrees with them on anything, as 'racists', 'sexists', 'homophobes'.  You know, the same people who insist anyone who disagrees with, say, Obama on something are somehow automatically 'racist'.   This is incredibly disgusting, vile, and poisonous, and in our society it's about the worst thing one can say about someone else.  Smearing people as racist, sexist, etc when they are not, is just as bad as racism and sexism itself, and it should never be tolerated.

As far as 'baiting' her, anyone with, say, a podcast should expect commentary and welcome it as suggestions on how to improve.  It's seldom personal.  I was the one attacked and smeared - for offering a valid criticism - not her.  I doubt very much you can find any of my posts anywhere calling other posters names that have nothing to do with comments they've posted, or calling them names at all unless they started it.


Quote from: ponyboysunset on November 04, 2015, 04:29:14 AM
The thing about feminism is that it is necessary. As someone who is a double minority (lesbian)and who still doesn't make as much as her male counter parts, I am grateful for the movement these women started. We still have a long way to go. Does this mean I hate men? No, but I am damn sure equal in the tech field as them and it's complete bullshit I don't make the same amount of money. I also have to put up with a lot of 'well all you need is a good dicking' cracks because I am an attractive woman who likes other women. Because you know, only butches and ugly women can be gay, and I just need a man to show me the right way. (By the way this is never funny at all, it's hurtful. Like I don't know what I like so a man needs to guide me?)So misogyny exists, whether you want it to or not.  Does that mean all men are misogynists, no it doesn't. And again if you don't like Nancy or her views turn off the radio whatever you are listening on, there are plenty of other choices out there.

PS before any of you assume I am sleeping with Nancy (that's why I am defending her and how I got on the show) I assure you I am not. LOL! ;)

Well, again, you've missed the point completely.  No one disputes these issues exist.  I would offer that if you have the same amount of experience and technical expertise, and/or if you are truly being harassed, you probably have a federal lawsuit. 

That these issues exist is one thing, it's quite another to smear someone with baseless accusations.  Please understand the difference. 

The other point is, yes these problems exist in our society but I'm not sure why she needs to inject this stuff into what is supposed to be a show on the paranormal as often as she does.  Do you?  Jeez, I remember one post of hers where she stated 'the men' were going to hate some show she was doing 'because it was going to be all women' hosts.  And she wasn't kidding.  Really Nancy?  Why did you think that?  These are not isolated instances, this is the mentality we're dealing with.




ItsOver

Quote from: Paper*Boy on November 04, 2015, 08:27:59 AM
I listened to a Future Theatre show awhile back because MV was the guest.  Afterwards someone posted complaints in general terms about Nancy that were about the same reaction I had, and then - like now - people rushed to her defense.  That poster was not wrong, and I posted exactly what I thought she does on the show in agreement - constantly interrupting everyone and jumping from topic to topic rather than letting them play out - because it's quite annoying.  Another poster agreed with this.   

For this we were called 'misogynistic.  That was her response.  And she didn't take it back when confronted.

It has become quite common in our society for people of a certain political persuasion to smear anyone they don't like, or who disagrees with them on anything, as 'racists', 'sexists', 'homophobes'.  You know, the same people who insist anyone who disagrees with, say, Obama on something are somehow automatically 'racist'.   This is incredibly disgusting, vile, and poisonous, and in our society it's about the worst thing one can say about someone else.  Smearing people as racist, sexist, etc when they are not, is just as bad as racism and sexism itself, and it should never be tolerated.

As far as 'baiting' her, anyone with, say, a podcast should expect commentary and welcome it as suggestions on how to improve.  It's seldom personal.  I was the one attacked and smeared - for offering a valid criticism - not her.  I doubt very much you can find any of my posts anywhere calling other posters names that have nothing to do with comments they've posted, or calling them names at all unless they started it.


Well, again, you've missed the point completely.  No one disputes these issues exist.  I would offer that if you have the same amount of experience and technical expertise, and/or if you are truly being harassed, you probably have a federal lawsuit. 

It's one thing to point out these issues exist, and another to smear someone with baseless accusations.  Please understand the difference. 

The other point is, yes these problems exist in our society but I'm not sure why she needs to inject this stuff into what is supposed to be a show on the paranormal as often as she does.  Do you?  Jeez, I remember one post of hers where she stated 'the men' were going to hate some show she was doing 'because it was going to be all women' hosts - and she wasn't kidding.  Really Nancy?  Why did you think that?  This is the mentality we're dealing with.
Hater. ;)

aldousburbank

I am a brown skinned, long haired, weed thumping, bible smoking, gun toting, shit talking, polyamorous, ptsd x adhd afflicted, grandparent. I think that puts me in at least a few minority categorizations. What do I win?

ponyboysunset

Quote from: Paper*Boy on November 04, 2015, 08:27:59 AM
I listened to a Future Theatre show awhile back because MV was the guest.  Afterwards someone posted complaints in general terms about Nancy that were about the same reaction I had, and then - like now - people rushed to her defense.  That poster was not wrong, and I posted exactly what I thought she does on the show in agreement - constantly interrupting everyone and jumping from topic to topic rather than letting them play out - because it's quite annoying.  Another poster agreed with this.   

For this we were called 'misogynistic.  That was her response.  And she didn't take it back when confronted.

It has become quite common in our society for people of a certain political persuasion to smear anyone they don't like, or who disagrees with them on anything, as 'racists', 'sexists', 'homophobes'.  You know, the same people who insist anyone who disagrees with, say, Obama on something are somehow automatically 'racist'.   This is incredibly disgusting, vile, and poisonous, and in our society it's about the worst thing one can say about someone else.  Smearing people as racist, sexist, etc when they are not, is just as bad as racism and sexism itself, and it should never be tolerated.

As far as 'baiting' her, anyone with, say, a podcast should expect commentary and welcome it as suggestions on how to improve.  It's seldom personal.  I was the one attacked and smeared - for offering a valid criticism - not her.  I doubt very much you can find any of my posts anywhere calling other posters names that have nothing to do with comments they've posted, or calling them names at all unless they started it.


Well, again, you've missed the point completely.  No one disputes these issues exist.  I would offer that if you have the same amount of experience and technical expertise, and/or if you are truly being harassed, you probably have a federal lawsuit. 

That these issues exist is one thing, it's quite another to smear someone with baseless accusations.  Please understand the difference. 

The other point is, yes these problems exist in our society but I'm not sure why she needs to inject this stuff into what is supposed to be a show on the paranormal as often as she does.  Do you?  Jeez, I remember one post of hers where she stated 'the men' were going to hate some show she was doing 'because it was going to be all women' hosts.  And she wasn't kidding.  Really Nancy?  Why did you think that?  These are not isolated instances, this is the mentality we're dealing with.
Why do you listen? I'm curious. If you hate her this much, why listen when you could simply turn your device to another channel?

And before any of you accuse me of being liberal I am not, I am a strong libertarian.

chefist

Quote from: aldousburbank on November 04, 2015, 08:36:44 AM
I am a brown skinned, long haired, weed thumping, bible smoking, gun toting, shit talking, polyamorous, ptsd x adhd afflicted, grandparent. I think that puts me in at least a few minority categorizations. What do I win?

Free hemp for life!

ItsOver

Quote from: aldousburbank on November 04, 2015, 08:36:44 AM
I am a brown skinned, long haired, weed thumping, bible smoking, gun toting, shit talking, polyamorous, ptsd x adhd afflicted, grandparent. I think that puts me in at least a few minority categorizations. What do I win?
Get in line, AB.  You'll have plenty of time to post often.



ponyboysunset

Quote from: aldousburbank on November 04, 2015, 08:36:44 AM
I am a brown skinned, long haired, weed thumping, bible smoking, gun toting, shit talking, polyamorous, ptsd x adhd afflicted, grandparent. I think that puts me in at least a few minority categorizations. What do I win?
That is the best use of the bible ever ;)

Quote from: ponyboysunset on November 04, 2015, 08:48:59 AM
Why do you listen? I'm curious. If you hate her this much, why listen when you could simply turn your device to another channel?...

You think this is about 'hating' someone?  I realize you want it to be, but try reading with comprehension.

And don't worry, I don't listen to it. 

I listened to the show when MV was the guest - all I knew at the time was these were the people who had ghosted George Noory 's Worker in the Light books and his book of Late Night Recipes.  The only other times I've listened to the show were when Aldous was on and when they had someone named Pony Boy Sunset.

I do read this thread though, I think Nancy could be a pretty good host if she made a few adjustments.

ponyboysunset

Quote from: Paper*Boy on November 04, 2015, 09:27:25 AM
You think this is about 'hating' someone?  I realize you want it to be, but try reading with comprehension.

And don't worry, I don't listen to it. 

I listened to the show when MV was the guest - all I knew at the time was these were the people who had ghosted George Noory 's Worker in the Light books and his book of Late Night Recipes.  The only other times I've listened to the show were when Aldous was on and when they had someone named Pony Boy Sunset.

I do read this thread though, I think Nancy could be a pretty good host if she made a few adjustments.

I appreciate you listening for me. I truly do. And you supporting the people on the forum. I just don't understand the level of anger over a talk show. But I'm just as guilty for defending her. None of us are perfect and all of us have room for improvement. I guess I just see things differently.

GravitySucks

Quote from: aldousburbank on November 04, 2015, 08:36:44 AM
I am a brown skinned, long haired, weed thumping, bible smoking, gun toting, shit talking, polyamorous, ptsd x adhd afflicted, grandparent. I think that puts me in at least a few minority categorizations. What do I win?
I don't know. But everybody gets an award. Send in your check to cover shipping and handling and your major award will be shipped in the order responses are received.

GravitySucks

Quote from: ponyboysunset on November 04, 2015, 09:54:57 AM
I appreciate you listening for me. I truly do. And you supporting the people on the forum. I just don't understand the level of anger over a talk show. But I'm just as guilty for defending her. None of us are perfect and all of us have room for improvement. I guess I just see things differently.
Of course you see things differently. You're a girl.

nbirnes

Quote from: Paper*Boy on November 04, 2015, 09:27:25 AM
You think this is about 'hating' someone?  I realize you want it to be, but try reading with comprehension.

And don't worry, I don't listen to it. 

I listened to the show when MV was the guest - all I knew at the time was these were the people who had ghosted George Noory 's Worker in the Light books and his book of Late Night Recipes.  The only other times I've listened to the show were when Aldous was on and when they had someone named Pony Boy Sunset.

I do read this thread though, I think Nancy could be a pretty good host if she made a few adjustments.

Thanks for that last sentence, Paper*Boy. That gives me hope. There are precious few female voices talking about the paranormal with any degree of seriousness, and when the day comes that fully half of the shows are hosted or co-hosted by interesting women, these arguments won't be so stinging.

I do hope that one day you'll listen again, and maybe call in.


chefist

Quote from: nbirnes on November 04, 2015, 10:18:20 AM
Thanks for that last sentence, Paper*Boy. That gives me hope. There are precious few female voices talking about the paranormal with any degree of seriousness, and when the day comes that fully half of the shows are hosted or co-hosted by interesting women, these arguments won't be so stinging.

I do hope that one day you'll listen again, and maybe call in.

I think that is what is great about internet broadcasting...there are no gatekeepers like there used to be in media...you can put your show out there and see if you can win an audience based upon the merit of your talents...

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