So...No one is following the Guardian Swoden stuff? and you call yourselves...

[steelbot]

A politcal forum....this is ANYTHING Goes and Honestly I found this to be the best WEBSITE news report in depth analaysis i've seen in a while....

My counter starts.....now at 54 terabytes.....roughly in 42 minutes...875 terabytes final number after reading and dissecting the entire story, all the documents. I think it sums it up when the NSA guy said "NO Sir" when being questioned before congress to whether or not the US gov ran surveillance on every American or more. Who are we kidding that what we saw in movies and people have been discussing for years wasn't actually going on? But still, the guy lied, then got a 24 hour reprieve to come back if he had anything to add to his testimony or own up to his previous statements. He came back with it may have slipped his mind and apologized for the best answer being a lie to clear up any misunderstandings within the "Top Secret" G-14 classified law that NSA and FBI have on lock-down with these companies. This right now is no doubt connected to something...but I digress, hope everyone had great Halloweens and looking forward to Thanksgiving, and Xmas. Then the NEW YEAR!


http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/nov/01/snowden-nsa-files-surveillance-revelations-decoded#section/1

Thats how ya do it Falkie 
-Cheers
Steelbot out!

[Mind Flayer Monk]

I'm not following the news on Coldstuff-livingroom, media is just too distorted on its initial release. I will be picking up a few books on the subject in about 2 or 3 years though.

[Eddie Coyle]

I'm not following the news on Coldstuff-livingroom, media is just too distorted on its initial release. I will be picking up a few books on the subject in about 2 or 3 years though.

     Exactly. When somebody like James Bamford writes a book about it, I'm there. Overemotional hyperbole from Jonesians or from the old Philby types ain't moving me.