Art Bell Quits Dark Matter

[jazmunda]

Art anything new to report today? What do you think about the #freeartbell movement?

And more importantly what did you have for lunch today?

[DanTSX]

#freeballart

[morphiaflow]

Falkie, nice mention of Bjo Trimble. You're a geek's geek.

[ItsOver]

George has learned a lot.  Take criticism in stride.  A relatively small forum isn't going to put a dent in his career.

Too bad he hasn't learned how to do a decent radio show.

[Falkie2013]

Falkie, nice mention of Bjo Trimble. You're a geek's geek.

Bjo's an old friend. Every once in a while I get emails from her out of the blue.

[lonevoice]

"manipulated by a fat man" is funnier than it has any right to be. I agree with your thoughts, I would like to hear George on the Bellgab podcast explain the whole Oates situation.

George already "explained" it here on BellGab...just an unfortunate coincidence and misunderstanding, doncha know?   That same night, Art actually posted in the GNS thread to expose the lies George was selling, and he did it right to George's face.   

[shadesofjoe]

Some years ago, people on the Fantastic Forum were criticizing George as we do here on Bell Gab.  George wrote a nasty post to them threatening to sue the site and individuals if they continued to post things which he considered to be liable.  Rather than fight, Fantastic Forum put out a cease and desist order to its members.

I'm a newspaper reporter, so I can say with a pretty fair amount of certainty that any libel suit by Jorch against Bellgab members (or any other forum for that matter) would hold absolutely zero weight in court. He is a public figure, and as such is held to a different libel standard than your typical individual. He would have to prove something called "actual malice" in his suit, which means he would have to convince the court that those accused of libeling him knowingly propagated deliberately false information or made specific statements about him with reckless disregard as to their truth or falseness.

Insults are not libel. Period. You can say that George Noory is a douchebag from now until kingdom come and there's absolutely nothing he can do about it. Now if you want to allege that he deliberately committed some type of crime or engaged in a specific act of shadiness or personal misconduct, you probably should have some sort of evidence to back it up. But I haven't seen anything here that would qualify in that regard. Almost all of the anti-Jorch speech on Bellgab is of the insult/satire variety, and that is 100% protected speech.

[Falkie2013]

And more importantly what did you have for lunch today?

LOL.

I can see it now.

" And now here's a special bulletin from our reporter in Pahrump. "

" Hello. I'm George George. Today Art Bell had lumpia, and chicken with rice, and some pizza roll appetizers. All washed down with some of his pizza punch. "

I keep wondering if they still make that stuff.

Apparently someone does. At least their site is still up.

http://www.sbolive.com/product.aspx?pid=97aca9ec-11a3-4ef3-a05b-701308fcfc90

[eddie dean]

Art anything new to report today? What do you think about the #freeartbell movement?

I hope art continues to post here and keeps us updated, but I would not be surprised if he stops for a few days.
I am sure his legal council has advised him to be very carefull what he says publicly from now on.

[basswood]

Only because nobody else has yet:

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[Dave Noorie]

For those interested, here is the post from George Noory to Fantastic Forum threatening a law suite:

Email Notice from George Noory to the Fantastic Forum
From George Noory <george@coasttocoastam.com>
May 17, 2007 4:11 PM
subject: FF

Once again, your forum is being used for hate and inaccuracy. The Sci-Fi show IS NOT a paid for informercial, but has been produced for Sci-Fi and will run at their expense.

Additionally, I have informed my attorney to immediately begin plans to sue various members for libel and to obtain from you either voluntarily or in court appropriate IP addresses, etc.

I take my career seriously and have NO problems with honest criticism and critique, but it's gotten out of hand.

I am asking you, as the administrator for the LAST TIME to clean this up, and will hold you personally responsible for such libelous attempts by your members to libel me and the show.
# # #

[Jesus Undercarriage]

I don't know. He's always struck me as more of a Ricky.

What makes you say that?

Rickyisms

[fave]

Only because nobody else has yet:

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Nice one. Posted to fb freeartbell

[eddie dean]

George already "explained" it here on BellGab...just an unfortunate coincidence and misunderstanding, doncha know?   That same night, Art actually posted in the GNS thread to expose the lies George was selling, and he did it right to George's face.

One of my favorite nights on bellgab! Only surpassed by, well, let-me-see,    almost every night in the past 10 days on this behemith of a thread!

[SomeVelvetMorning]

Thanks for the link to the court case, lonevoice.  I had no idea as to the depths of the false accusations Oates and company were making.

[Jesus Undercarriage]

Some years ago, people on the Fantastic Forum were criticizing George as we do here on Bell Gab.  George wrote a nasty post to them threatening to sue the site and individuals if they continued to post things which he considered to be liable.  Rather than fight, Fantastic Forum put out a cease and desist order to its members.

A cease and desist order to it's own members? Smart move.

[eddie dean]

I'm a newspaper reporter, so I can say with a pretty fair amount of certainty that any libel suit by Jorch against Bellgab members (or any other forum for that matter) would hold absolutely zero weight in court. He is a public figure, and as such is held to a different libel standard than your typical individual. He would have to prove something called "actual malice" in his suit, which means he would have to convince the court that those accused of libeling him knowingly propagated deliberately false information or made specific statements about him with reckless disregard as to their truth or falseness.

Insults are not libel. Period. You can say that George Noory is a douchebag from now until kingdom come and there's absolutely nothing he can do about it. Now if you want to allege that he deliberately committed some type of crime or engaged in a specific act of shadiness or personal misconduct, you probably should have some sort of evidence to back it up. But I haven't seen anything here that would qualify in that regard. Almost all of the anti-Jorch speech on Bellgab is of the insult/satire variety, and that is 100% protected speech.

I couldn't agree more counselor!

[lightningline]

And Now a quick message from George Noory....push button

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[Jesus Undercarriage]

For those interested, here is the post from George Noory to Fantastic Forum threatening a law suite:

Email Notice from George Noory to the Fantastic Forum
From George Noory <george@coasttocoastam.com>
May 17, 2007 4:11 PM
subject: FF

Once again, your forum is being used for hate and inaccuracy. The Sci-Fi show IS NOT a paid for informercial, but has been produced for Sci-Fi and will run at their expense.

Additionally, I have informed my attorney to immediately begin plans to sue various members for libel and to obtain from you either voluntarily or in court appropriate IP addresses, etc.

I take my career seriously and have NO problems with honest criticism and critique, but it's gotten out of hand.

I am asking you, as the administrator for the LAST TIME to clean this up, and will hold you personally responsible for such libelous attempts by your members to libel me and the show.
# # #

(Moderator's comments)

Time to clean it up folks!

Refer to the Terms of Service and Terms of Use Legal Notice posted on the forum.

http://www.fantasticforum.com/1res/showthread.php?threadid=27940

Aww, well I think maybe George has learned from that. You can't censor opinion.

[Dave Noorie]

I wish MV could ban George from the site for a week...

[retired41]

I wish MV could ban George from the site for a week...

and miss all his wisdom lol

[Jesus Undercarriage]

Fuck off George

Fuck off yourself shitstick.

[DanTSX]

I wish MV could ban George from the site for a week...

And post his PM's

[dan7800]

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[widespread1]

Fuck off yourself shitstick.

Lol

[Jesus Undercarriage]

No.  He is going to try to sue you eventually.


On what basis, who knows?


It's not like me telling to fuck off every time I see his Saddam Hussein head pop up is libelous in any context or jurisdiction.   Just scary lawyer letters.

Toss them in the trash.

And transfer ownership of the website to your spouse

What the shitting shit? Saddam Hussein head? Really? You've really outshit yourself this time.

[BattyBrooke]

And more importantly what did you have for lunch today?

Heard you on Gabcast. Love your accent! With as much luck as you have with getting through to speak to Art, you should play the lotto.

[Jesus Undercarriage]

George already "explained" it here on BellGab...just an unfortunate coincidence and misunderstanding, doncha know?   That same night, Art actually posted in the GNS thread to expose the lies George was selling, and he did it right to George's face.

Sounds like six of one and half a dozen of the other to me.

[dortmunder]

For those interested, here is the post from George Noory to Fantastic Forum threatening a law suite:

Email Notice from George Noory to the Fantastic Forum
From George Noory <george@coasttocoastam.com>
May 17, 2007 4:11 PM
subject: FF

Once again, your forum is being used for hate and inaccuracy. The Sci-Fi show IS NOT a paid for informercial, but has been produced for Sci-Fi and will run at their expense.

Additionally, I have informed my attorney to immediately begin plans to sue various members for libel and to obtain from you either voluntarily or in court appropriate IP addresses, etc.

I take my career seriously and have NO problems with honest criticism and critique, but it's gotten out of hand.

I am asking you, as the administrator for the LAST TIME to clean this up, and will hold you personally responsible for such libelous attempts by your members to libel me and the show.
# # #

(Moderator's comments)

Time to clean it up folks!

Refer to the Terms of Service and Terms of Use Legal Notice posted on the forum.

http://www.fantasticforum.com/1res/showthread.php?threadid=27940

Yep, he's an asshole for sure. Your history follows you around, Georgie! Can't hide from it under your mustache!

[Derpspiracy]

For those interested, here is the post from George Noory to Fantastic Forum threatening a law suite:

Email Notice from George Noory to the Fantastic Forum
From George Noory <george@coasttocoastam.com>
May 17, 2007 4:11 PM
subject: FF

Once again, your forum is being used for hate and inaccuracy. The Sci-Fi show IS NOT a paid for informercial, but has been produced for Sci-Fi and will run at their expense.

Additionally, I have informed my attorney to immediately begin plans to sue various members for libel and to obtain from you either voluntarily or in court appropriate IP addresses, etc.

I take my career seriously and have NO problems with honest criticism and critique, but it's gotten out of hand.

I am asking you, as the administrator for the LAST TIME to clean this up, and will hold you personally responsible for such libelous attempts by your members to libel me and the show.
# # #

(Moderator's comments)

Time to clean it up folks!

Refer to the Terms of Service and Terms of Use Legal Notice posted on the forum.

http://www.fantasticforum.com/1res/showthread.php?threadid=27940

Are you absolutely sure that's from Jorch? I mean, it's all coherent and somewhat grammatically correct and shit.