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Art Bell Quits Dark Matter

Started by DesertFox, November 01, 2013, 08:13:24 AM



Falkie2013

Quote from: DarKPenguiN on November 14, 2013, 05:12:57 AM
No idea.

My guess? To build upon his 'nice guy' persona. The business he is in is one of public perception so its good PR (potentially) I would imagine. Plus engaging in dialogue with people 'opposed' to you can often bring a quasi 'personal tie' with that person (or people) and thus keep the venom to a minimum and even get them to possibly change camps or 'drop out' of the hate fest...

-Good PR is my guess.

That said, I still think it was cool as hell to offer someone help with their glasses and PR stunt or not it made my jaw drop a bit...  To help someone out (regardless of any ulterior motives) with something as important as sight is a pretty cool thing.

What makes you think he didn't have ulterior motives ?

He's always been watching my videos & what we say about him here.

I think its more of a case of know your enemy, deflect criticism and blame, lie when necessary because most people won't check and will believe the lie, particularly if you say you're either sincere about it or contrite if you're caught.

And we've seen and heard $noory make stuff up out of whole cloth over the years.

freeartbell

coaster

Noory, you WILL lose. just sayin.  Not that you ever won anyways. The boss gave you a job and you're shoving it in his face. Get ready kiddo...


Falkie2013

Quote from: coaster on November 14, 2013, 05:18:40 AM
Honestly, I cant sit here for more than a minute and not have a like a second on my posts and fb. They are nonstop. Today I help fix radio. I'm callin Sirius and trying what I tried to do a few hours ago. I will put money on it. George Noory if youre reading this, you slimy piece of shit. Your BOSS wins. You understand that? The man who gave you your job wins today. So pile up the pizza rolls bitch. Its fucking go time.
edit- I cant say what I was trying to sdo, because, I get it. Noory reads this shit 24-7. wanna play chess? What would happen if a nobody whooped your ass today..

I am hopeful that I can whip his ass every day. I'm amazed that 20 or so people don't like my videos.
I didn't know $noory HAD that many fans.

freeartbell


Falkie2013

Quote from: malachi.martini on November 14, 2013, 05:48:45 AM
Yup, this is why they wear the hoods:



looks like a cross between a cricket with 2 eggs on its eyes ( over easy ) and a really bad looking beaver.
??? :(

gad, that's scary.

that's $noorge's true face when he came from the lizard planet.

freeartbell

DarKPenguiN

Quote from: Falkie2013 on November 14, 2013, 05:45:55 AM
What makes you think he didn't have ulterior motives ?

He's always been watching my videos & what we say about him here.

I think its more of a case of know your enemy, deflect criticism and blame, lie when necessary because most people won't check and will believe the lie, particularly if you say you're either sincere about it or contrite if you're caught.

And we've seen and heard $noory make stuff up out of whole cloth over the years.

freeartbell
No- i DO think he had ulterior motives...I would bet money on it.

I agree with everything you stated in your post.

I was trying to say 'motives aside' I still thought the glasses thing was cool. I know why he did it but it still made me think 'damn, that was cool' (which I am sure was his reason- But it worked.) It WAS pretty cool.

EDIT: To be fair, Art bell has ulterior motives also...These are Public Figures. Usually they are far different in "real life'' than what most people think based on their persona. Same with Politicians....

-These guys are not our friends and they have reasons for doing everything they do (including posting and offering free shit-) and its usually about PR and 'winning hearts and minds'.

When I was younger we had a neighbor who a Preacher and 'loved'... Biggest asshole I ever saw. But never while his 'flock' was around. Living next door to him I knew a far different side that folks who attended his Church.

-And its the same here.


Jocko Johnson

Quote from: DarKPenguiN on November 14, 2013, 05:30:21 AM
Are you saying you think I am Tommy or am I misreading?
Sorry, not Tommy. In fact I am nobody you have probably ever heard of.

I am not a shill for Sirius, Premiere or Noory... Although I am drifting into "troll" territory a bit and I imagine this will increase over time until we have real, unmitigated Forum PVP (FFA)- And no, I am not a remote viewer either. I just know this shit...

But yeah...I can see those guys having a good laugh and I would if I were them-  Its human nature. If this was a DarKPenguiN sucks thread where people critizised my work and compared me to their idol- Then their Idol came back and couldnt make it six weeks- And there was some backlash- And some posturing and such...Yes, I would find that damn funny and slightly vindicating.

I am not protecting some public personal and am allowed top admit that I would find great joy in this fiasco if I were George- because I would... Sorry, but its the truth.
I wonder how much joy he really finds sifting thru these posts looking for the couple that stick up for him only to realize they either are family members or work at prem radio? Then he looks in the mirror and sees that stupid ass hat on his head, the shoe polish on his 'stache, the toupe tape and glue on his sideburns as evident from his big tv appearance on the view. He realizes really what a loney and disgusting figure he is. Trys to get the two or three neurons in his empty skull to generate enough juice to realize as well no matter what he does or how much $ he has or how many pairs of glasses he buys all for the wrong reason. But you think for whatever reason its still cool. When all of it comes together deep down he knows he's a real zero and no body loves him...he's the one who blew it. His only love is paid for. It must be painful to be so empty and so stupid and just try so hard to look smart and want people to like him...but because he is such a schmuck and a conniving piece of human debris if he disappeared tomorrow no one would hardly miss him and there would be in fact much joy in radio land. So go bring the car around back pick up your boss and drive his rotten ass to 7-11 for that pre packaged pre made gas station semi real healthy turkey sammitch and u guys just beeleaf to yourselves that everything is ok...karma is a bitch baby!

ziznak

Quote from: malachi.martini on November 14, 2013, 05:48:45 AM
Yup, this is why they wear the hoods:




how could lucas put a hood on the jawas but let greedo walk around all naked headed?

this is a pic of him now... he's a guido... get it... greedo... the guido... ahhhhhhh.... coaster you're scaring me... goodnight!!!

Falkie2013

Quote from: Jocko Johnson on November 14, 2013, 05:50:09 AM
I wonder how much joy he really finds sifting thru these posts looking for the couple that stick up for him only to realize they either are family members or work at prem radio? Then he looks in the mirror and sees that stupid ass hat on his head, the shoe polish on his 'stache, the toupe tape and glue on his sideburns as evident from his big tv appearance on the view. He realizes really what a loney and disgusting figure he is. Trys to get the two or three neurons in his empty skull to generate enough juice tk realize as well no matter what he does or how much $ he has or how many pairs of glasses he buys all for the wrong reason. But you think for whatever reason its still cool. When all of it comes together derp down he knows he's a real zero and no body loves him...he's the one who blew it. His only love is paid for. It must be painful to be so empty and so stupid and just try so hard to look smart and want people to like him...but because he is such a schmuck and a conniving piece of human debris if he disappeared tomorrow no one would hardly miss him and there would be in fact much joy in fadio land. So go bring the car around back pick up your boss and drive his rotten ass to 7-11 for that pre packaged pre made gas station semi real healthy turkey sammitch and u guys just beeleaf to yourselves that everything is ok...karma is a bitch baby!


can i read this in my next video tonight jj ?

brilliant

and sooo true too.

freeartbell

tertiaryimam

Quote from: Jocko Johnson on November 14, 2013, 05:50:09 AM
I wonder how much joy he really finds sifting thru these posts looking for the couple that stick up for him only to realize they either are family members or work at prem radio? Then he looks in the mirror and sees that stupid ass hat on his head, the shoe polish on his 'stache, the toupe tape and glue on his sideburns as evident from his big tv appearance on the view. He realizes really what a loney and disgusting figure he is. Trys to get the two or three neurons in his empty skull to generate enough juice tk realize as well no matter what he does or how much $ he has or how many pairs of glasses he buys all for the wrong reason. But you think for whatever reason its still cool. When all of it comes together derp down he knows he's a real zero and no body loves him...he's the one who blew it. His only love is paid for. It must be painful to be so empty and so stupid and just try so hard to look smart and want people to like him...but because he is such a schmuck and a conniving piece of human debris if he disappeared tomorrow no one would hardly miss him and there would be in fact much joy in fadio land. So go bring the car around back pick up your boss and drive his rotten ass to 7-11 for that pre packaged pre made gas station semi real healthy turkey sammitch and u guys just beeleaf to yourselves that everything is ok...karma is a bitch baby!


I thought he did a pretty kewl interview with James Van Praagh:


Full Length - Beyond Belief with George Noory: Speaking with Spirits

I'm a big James Van Praagh fan. Mainly because I like typing "Praagh." Hell yeah.

WOTR

Quote from: coaster on November 14, 2013, 05:18:40 AM
Honestly, I cant sit here for more than a minute and not have a like a second on my posts and fb.
I dusted off a FB account that has sat inactive for at least two years just to post on XM's stupid page...

Jocko Johnson

Quote from: DarKPenguiN on November 14, 2013, 05:49:48 AM
No- i DO think he had ulterior motives...I would bet money on it.

I agree with everything you stated in your post.

I was trying to say 'motives aside' I still thought the glasses thing was cool. I know why he did it but it still made me think 'damn, that was cool' (which I am sure was his reason- But it worked.) It WAS pretty cool.
You seem to know a lot about what he thinks and is "cool"  oh boy did he promise you an internship at the station as long as u keep telling him how great he is and keep picking up his toomoreick for him? Just stop and go away. Get lost jerky.

Jocko Johnson

Quote from: Falkie2013 on November 14, 2013, 05:54:05 AM

can i read this in my next video tonight jj ?

brilliant

and sooo true too.

freeartbell
Jocko says feel free to speak the truth...

tertiaryimam

I don't think George Noory is a bad guy. Every time I read about him on this board I start thinking he's bad, but then I go to youtube and look at videos of him and I know in my heart he's not a bad guy at all. He's a soft-spoken, gentle man who only sees the best in people. I think this gets him into trouble a lot, in fact. When you see the best in people, oftentimes you don't see their faults and because of that he doesn't come off right. But deep down he just wants the world to love one another, and everyone to reach the heaven.

God bless you, George Noory. I am sorry for being mean to you. You're a ok in my book. You're rambling love pimple on the side of a big, furry boat in a sea of interlocking shot-glasses.

Falkie2013

Quote from: DarKPenguiN on November 14, 2013, 05:49:48 AM
No- i DO think he had ulterior motives...I would bet money on it.

I agree with everything you stated in your post.

I was trying to say 'motives aside' I still thought the glasses thing was cool. I know why he did it but it still made me think 'damn, that was cool' (which I am sure was his reason- But it worked.) It WAS pretty cool.

EDIT: To be fair, Art bell has ulterior motives also...These are Public Figures. Usually they are far different in "real life'' than what most people think based on their persona. Same with Politicians....

-These guys are not our friends and they have reasons for doing everything they do (including posting and offering free shit-) and its usually about PR and 'winning hearts and minds'.

When I was younger we had a neighbor who a Preacher and 'loved'... Biggest asshole I ever saw. But never while his 'flock' was around. Living next door to him I knew a far different side that folks who attended his Church.

-And its the same here.

I've had Art send me emails on occasion over the years and when he's answered me its always with respect or he answers my questions to the best of his ability unless he can't talk about certain issues.
he got sent all my videos even the ones where I was furious at him for quitting DM in the manner I did.
yet, HE never called me a jerk even after seeing them and even amusedly replied when I sent him an email about my call to him on DM explaining that ricky ricardo ... err, Martinez was NOT my name.
he also said " hi buddy " when I talked to him on gabcast.
Art is not without flaws.
but any man who would tackle a big corporation without a lawyer is one that thinks that others should treat him as he would treat them.
I cannot see Noory ever doing anything without an attorney looking over his shoulder, can you ?
jerk or hi buddy ?
think about that and just WHO has the thinner skin. I would dare say it's George.
that's the HUGE difference between Art and $noory.
and always will be.
art loves us and his fans
noory uses them for his own ends
and probably deep down despises every one of us.
Noory probably only decided to offer to pay for my glasses because it would both defuse a rapidly growing and popular critic of him and his perfidy AND because in all probability, he or someone who was advising him said it would make him look above the criticism to do so, ie :

" see what a really NICE guy George is ? He offers to pay for the glasses of one of his biggest critics ! "

freeartbell


cmotors

Quote from: jazmunda on November 14, 2013, 03:37:58 AM
Agreed. Doesn't sound like a very lawyerly statement. Also very unprofessional to make a public statement like that. Cards need to be held close to their chests. Happy to be wrong if confirmed by Art and Paul but that post does not inspire much confidence.

I think it played a necessary balance between not disclosing important details, as well as setting the record straight in pointing out Art wasn't just pulling an Art. When Art left Sirius, everyone was laying the blame on Art and second guessing his motivations. I know I was. This statement from a source other than Art, puts everything into better perspective for those that remained unconvinced. If things hadn't played out as they have, a large part of the statement would not have been necessary. Does it reveal more than would typically be revealed in a legal statement? Yes.  Does it set things straight so that everyone can see it is something worth fighting for? Yes.  It's a worthwhile compromise I think, especially now that we are seeing action from the fan base.

DarKPenguiN

Quote from: Jocko Johnson on November 14, 2013, 05:57:40 AM
You seem to know a lot about what he thinks and is "cool"  oh boy did he promise you an internship at the station as long as u keep telling him how great he is and keep picking up his toomoreick for him? Just stop and go away. Get lost jerky.
I know jack shit about what he thinks- I am speculating and basing my speculations based on typical human behavior (including my own...)

I also dont need some Internship. First, I do not want to work in radio. Second, I have a good career and not really looking for a change right now tyvm. Third, please quote anywhere I have ever said I think "George Noory is great".

Look through my posts if you want my feelings on C2C as it currently stands- Its not worth repeating and there are 1000 + pages of people who feel much the same.

-But I do not personally 'hate' George and think alot of this shit you guys are spewing is uncalled for. Nail him as a broadcaster and a professional, leave the personal shit for the bar when someone can deal with it appropriately.

Finally- Art bell QUIT. Thats why there is no show (remember) so had Art bell not QUIT, this thread and my comments would not be here and I would be lurking again.

onan

Quote from: FightTheFuture on November 14, 2013, 05:09:53 AM

That's pretty much how I see it as well.

I was EXTREMELY  skeptical of the last Art comeback, and even more so now.

No questioning Art's radio talent, and nobody misses those magical nights of the 90' s more than I. But, like an addict, I suspect we're still chasing that initial high.

Lot of truth with this.

It is imposible not to relate chasing the dragon to Art at this point.

That being said if the "supply" is available we will all be at the corner.

Quote from: onan on November 14, 2013, 06:04:08 AM
Lot of truth with this.

It is imposible not to relate chasing the dragon to Art at this point.

That being said if the "supply" is available we will all be at the corner.


And then I'll sprinkle that shit into a joint.

FREEARTBELL


coaster

lets all wait and see what happens.

I'm new around here, so I don't know the guys that did the Gabcast where Art Bell called in, but  just wanted to say truly fantastic job! And one of the guys (once again, don't know who he is yet), is funny as hell. Really great team! Really great podcast!

And, OMG was it cathartic to hear Art...like a warm hug. Thank you!

Jocko Johnson

Quote from: tertiaryimam on November 14, 2013, 05:59:32 AM
I don't think George Noory is a bad guy. Every time I read about him on this board I start thinking he's bad, but then I go to youtube and look at videos of him and I know in my heart he's not a bad guy at all. He's a soft-spoken, gentle man who only sees the best in people. I think this gets him into trouble a lot, in fact. When you see the best in people, oftentimes you don't see their faults and because of that he doesn't come off right. But deep down he just wants the world to love one another, and everyone to reach the heaven.

God bless you, George Noory. I am sorry for being mean to you. You're a ok in my book. You're rambling love pimple on the side of a big, furry boat in a sea of interlocking shot-glasses.
Hey my friend. ..its ok now just put the crack pipe down and slowly back away...tuck urself into bed get some rest and when u wake up hopefully u will be seeing things more clearly...ok?...there u  go good boy.

CJJames

 Thank you for taking the time to answer all the questions during Gabcast.  60 minutes of answers to questions from 3 hosts and random callers really helped me understand what's been going on. Keep fighting, Art, I want to hear you again soon

onan

Quote from: EarthAlien007 on November 14, 2013, 05:07:10 AM
Why does sNoory constantly log in to an Art Bell fan forum during his own show?
Why does he PM people here offering them money and favors?

Because he wants to tear this place down. He has a history of taking down sites that are antagonistic to him.

Ask Lonevoice, she can give you a very colorfull, blow by blow.

Dave "monkey puss" noory has no motive of good intent here. Believe me he snickers anytime any one of us gives him a PM. And at least one poster here seems to not have enough brain cells to figure that out.

Falkie2013

Quote from: DarKPenguiN on November 14, 2013, 06:03:58 AM
I know jack shit about what he thinks- I am speculating and basing my speculations based on typical human behavior (including my own...)

I also dont need some Internship. First, I do not want to work in radio. Second, I have a good career and not really looking for a change right now tyvm. Third, please quote anywhere I have ever said I think "George Noory is great".

Look through my posts if you want my feelings on C2C as it currently stands- Its not worth repeating and there are 1000 + pages of people who feel much the same.

-But I do not personally 'hate' George and think alot of this shit you guys are spewing is uncalled for. Nail him as a broadcaster and a professional, leave the personal shit for the bar when someone can deal with it appropriately.

Finally- Art bell QUIT. Thats why there is no show (remember) so had Art bell not QUIT, this thread and my comments would not be here and I would be lurking again.

It is IMPOSSIBLE  to separate the two because so much of what Noory is is because he IS  a broadcaster. His verbal gaffes, his malapropisms, his failure to properly interview guests, his leering and flirting and ogling female guests, his self promotion and so much more.
Much of his behavior before Art's leaving and his taking over Art's channel, even though it's not in Art's time slot, has been reprehensible.
And to have a guest on that Art banned for life is simply yet another slap in the face to Art and unforgivable to anyone with any standards of decorum and decent behavior.
But go ahead and be an apologist for the man and his actions which you apparently are doing.
The rest of us excluding me know the man's history.
Or haven't YOU been reading the GNS sucks forum in its entirety from the beginning like I ( and probably many others ) have ?

george noory sucks
and

freeartbell

Falkie2013

Quote from: onan on November 14, 2013, 06:13:06 AM
Because he wants to tear this place down. He has a history of taking down sites that are antagonistic to him.

Ask Lonevoice, she can give you a very colorfull, blow by blow.

Dave "monkey puss" noory has no motive of good intent here. Believe me he snickers anytime any one of us gives him a PM. And at least one poster here seems to not have enough brain cells to figure that out.

more like monkey pus

and bravo, kudos and dead on right

freeartbell

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