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Art Bell Quits Dark Matter

Started by DesertFox, November 01, 2013, 08:13:24 AM

Meanandnasty

Here's something that I have not read.  We should have a peaceful protest at Sirius corporate.  All dress in Dark Matter T-Shirts and caps.  Hold the e-cigs up as we hold an e-cig lit mass to protest any uncooperative responses from big mean corporate.

Free my little pony rides for all.

Surmo

CALL FROM SIRIUS

Did subscriber get a call from Sirius like I did this morning at 11:30 a.m. EST?

As I was showering, I got a call from an unlisted number.  As I just broke up with my GF, and was expecting a call, I picked it up, only to have Barb of Sirius on the line.  Not a flunkie  from India, but very well educated and knowledgeable.  Barb asked me if I was a subscriber to Dark Matters, and did I still desire to quit Sirius if Art Bell was no longer on the air with them. [As an aside, I wrote passionate letters to everyone and anyone at Sirius, including by email and regular mail, asking that they keep Art on the air and work with him.  At no point in my letters did I take Sirius to task in any way, other than I wanted Art on the air.]

I told Barb that while I understood Sirius' position over Art's position, I had subscribed only for Art Bell, and without him I wanted to discontinue.  Barb said Art Bell is not on Sirius.  I asked could he return and she said he will "never" be on Sirius.  I replied "never?"  Barb responded "ever."  When I asked her how she knew that, Barb said her "superior" told her that, and when I asked who that was she simply repeated "my superior."  I said I would indeed like to discontinue Sirius (I signed up for a year, and got a free car radio in the process), and Barb proceeded to indicate my subscription would run till Nov. 13th, and I would not be charged beyond that date.  [I found out later there was also a termination fee of $75, which Barb failed to mention during the call.]

During this process I asked Barb why they were doing this and she said in response to my letterS, emphasizing the plurality of letters.  Has anyone else gotten a call FROM Sirius, volunatrily ending the subscription?  The $75 fee has tempered how I feel about it, as that is roughly half a year at the monthly rate I subscribed for, and I thought it very unusual. I am an attorney by trade, and have dealt with an inordinate number of corproate types, and this woman seemed to be well-above the bottom rung of the ladder.

Anyone else receive a similar call?  My last name begins with "A" so I may be first on the list, but I may also have gotten this largely because of the over-the-top efforts I made to be passionate and yet reasonable about this whole mess to Sirius.

HaveAccess

Just a small note...

All my friends tell me Im too serious...

You guys used to crack me up so bad, it was hard to get out of my chair.

In a sense, I dont care what side of an argument you take, as long as you are "principled" and "consistent".

But Ill tell ya..... Im not hear for stream of consciousness urban expletives....
Thats a dead end...

Along with another dead end we are all facing...


AZ/CO

Thank you so much, BellGabbers, for keeping me entertained!  I don't get to post very often, but have been jumping on here and there to catch up on the 310+ pages.  Whew!   

I have also been an SXM subscriber for many years, maybe 8 or 9, and have had zero problems.  When Sirius and XM merged, I thought I might been in for drama, but all was fine.  I love radio and I truly feel bad for those that have been experiencing problems.  In my rural (high desert) Colorado house, reception for terrestrial radio isn't great.

I thank Art and Producer Paul for the updates.  And again, I thank BellGab for the (mostly) intelligent, funny banter!

And for what's it worth, I do think we might not be in this No-Art situation if Jazmunda hadn't called in so often (so kidding!!)

saucerlike

I hope that mega Art Bell torrent is still out there to d/l..........


georgesucks

Quote from: Surmo on November 11, 2013, 12:30:03 PM
CALL FROM SIRIUS

Did subscriber get a call from Sirius like I did this morning at 11:30 a.m. EST?

As I was showering, I got a call from an unlisted number.  As I just broke up with my GF, and was expecting a call, I picked it up, only to have Barb of Sirius on the line.  Not a flunkie  from India, but very well educated and knowledgeable.  Barb asked me if I was a subscriber to Dark Matters, and did I still desire to quit Sirius if Art Bell was no longer on the air with them. [As an aside, I wrote passionate letters to everyone and anyone at Sirius, including by email and regular mail, asking that they keep Art on the air and work with him.  At no point in my letters did I take Sirius to task in any way, other than I wanted Art on the air.]

I told Barb that while I understood Sirius' position over Art's position, I had subscribed only for Art Bell, and without him I wanted to discontinue.  Barb said Art Bell is not on Sirius.  I asked could he return and she said he will "never" be on Sirius.  I replied "never?"  Barb responded "ever."  When I asked her how she knew that, Barb said her "superior" told her that, and when I asked who that was she simply repeated "my superior."  I said I would indeed like to discontinue Sirius (I signed up for a year, and got a free car radio in the process), and Barb proceeded to indicate my subscription would run till Nov. 13th, and I would not be charged beyond that date.  [I found out later there was also a termination fee of $75, which Barb failed to mention during the call.]

During this process I asked Barb why they were doing this and she said in response to my letterS, emphasizing the plurality of letters.  Has anyone else gotten a call FROM Sirius, volunatrily ending the subscription?  The $75 fee has tempered how I feel about it, as that is roughly half a year at the monthly rate I subscribed for, and I thought it very unusual. I am an attorney by trade, and have dealt with an inordinate number of corproate types, and this woman seemed to be well-above the bottom rung of the ladder.

Anyone else receive a similar call?  My last name begins with "A" so I may be first on the list, but I may also have gotten this largely because of the over-the-top efforts I made to be passionate and yet reasonable about this whole mess to Sirius.
Its also sounds like XM  will enforce the NC on Art to make him pay. I could be wrong.

shell88

Quote from: maren on November 11, 2013, 12:18:28 PM
Posting this again, beseeching someone to respond.  I'm working myself into a tizzy.  Take pity on me!  Calm my troubled soul.
I don't see one. Perhaps it's a cryptic message from Art to you.


cmotors

Quote from: Surmo on November 11, 2013, 12:30:03 PM
CALL FROM SIRIUS

I asked could he return and she said he will "never" be on Sirius.  I replied "never?"  Barb responded "ever."  When I asked her how she knew that, Barb said her "superior" told her that, and when I asked who that was she simply repeated "my superior." 

I guess now it all comes down to whether they let him out of the non-compete, or if he fights it.

WOTR

Quote from: Falkie2013 on November 10, 2013, 02:34:03 AM
Well, they did spend big bucks building Art a studio and Producer guy and the call screener are out of a job too.
Art should give them a year's pay.
Why?  Why should Art be forced to live up to a standard that we do not hold major corporations, small businesses or anybody else in this country to?  there are labour laws and standards for a reason- and I do not recall reading the "Art Bell exception clause" that states that he shall provide a years salary if he stops broadcasting. ???

georgesucks

Quote from: cmotors on November 11, 2013, 12:49:49 PM
I guess now it all comes down to whether they let him out of the non-compete, or if he fights it.
Art may fight but he might quit that too. :-\

maren

Quote from: georgesucks on November 11, 2013, 12:41:31 PM
Its also sounds like XM  will enforce the NC on Art to make him pay. I could be wrong.

Sure sounds like there will be no wiggle room for Art Bell. 

gbneely

Quote from: Surmo on November 11, 2013, 12:30:03 PM
CALL FROM SIRIUS

Did subscriber get a call from Sirius like I did this morning at 11:30 a.m. EST?

As I was showering, I got a call from an unlisted number.  As I just broke up with my GF, and was expecting a call, I picked it up, only to have Barb of Sirius on the line.  Not a flunkie  from India, but very well educated and knowledgeable.  Barb asked me if I was a subscriber to Dark Matters, and did I still desire to quit Sirius if Art Bell was no longer on the air with them. [As an aside, I wrote passionate letters to everyone and anyone at Sirius, including by email and regular mail, asking that they keep Art on the air and work with him.  At no point in my letters did I take Sirius to task in any way, other than I wanted Art on the air.]

I told Barb that while I understood Sirius' position over Art's position, I had subscribed only for Art Bell, and without him I wanted to discontinue.  Barb said Art Bell is not on Sirius.  I asked could he return and she said he will "never" be on Sirius.  I replied "never?"  Barb responded "ever."  When I asked her how she knew that, Barb said her "superior" told her that, and when I asked who that was she simply repeated "my superior."  I said I would indeed like to discontinue Sirius (I signed up for a year, and got a free car radio in the process), and Barb proceeded to indicate my subscription would run till Nov. 13th, and I would not be charged beyond that date.  [I found out later there was also a termination fee of $75, which Barb failed to mention during the call.]

During this process I asked Barb why they were doing this and she said in response to my letterS, emphasizing the plurality of letters.  Has anyone else gotten a call FROM Sirius, volunatrily ending the subscription?  The $75 fee has tempered how I feel about it, as that is roughly half a year at the monthly rate I subscribed for, and I thought it very unusual. I am an attorney by trade, and have dealt with an inordinate number of corproate types, and this woman seemed to be well-above the bottom rung of the ladder.

Anyone else receive a similar call?  My last name begins with "A" so I may be first on the list, but I may also have gotten this largely because of the over-the-top efforts I made to be passionate and yet reasonable about this whole mess to Sirius.

Is it possible that Sirius is compiling a total of lost subscriptions to show damages due to Art's quitting for possible litigation? I'm not a legal authority by any stretch, but it seems Art did this without an attorney. While I'm pissed at him, I hope he didn't open himself up for any type of suit. I remember someone earlier saying the C/S representative said they were tracking cancellations because of this.

ItsOver

Quote from: cmotors on November 11, 2013, 12:49:49 PM
I guess now it all comes down to whether they let him out of the non-compete, or if he fights it.


Hmmm...sounds like we're in "the love is gone" phase and now Art "must pay."  Welcome to Divorce Court.

georgesucks

Quote from: maren on November 11, 2013, 12:52:17 PM
Sure sounds like there will be no wiggle room for Art Bell.
Its sound like Art might be back on the air in late 2015 or after. Don't worry everyone we still have George Noory to pick on because he is no quitter.

maren

Quote from: shell88 on November 11, 2013, 12:43:31 PM
I don't see one. Perhaps it's a cryptic message from Art to you.

I saw it both at home on my Mac, and here at work on the PC --  Just checked again, still there!

Maybe it IS a special little message for me.  I'm honored!  If only I knew what it meant.

Thanks for responding, Shell88!

maren

Quote from: georgesucks on November 11, 2013, 12:54:50 PM
Don't worry everyone we still have George Noory to pick on because he is no quitter.

Alas, I wish he were. 

Marc.Knight

Quote from: Surmo on November 11, 2013, 12:30:03 PM
CALL FROM SIRIUS

Did subscriber get a call from Sirius like I did this morning at 11:30 a.m. EST?

As I was showering, I got a call from an unlisted number.  As I just broke up with my GF, and was expecting a call, I picked it up, only to have Barb of Sirius on the line.  Not a flunkie  from India, but very well educated and knowledgeable.  Barb asked me if I was a subscriber to Dark Matters, and did I still desire to quit Sirius if Art Bell was no longer on the air with them. [As an aside, I wrote passionate letters to everyone and anyone at Sirius, including by email and regular mail, asking that they keep Art on the air and work with him.  At no point in my letters did I take Sirius to task in any way, other than I wanted Art on the air.]

I told Barb that while I understood Sirius' position over Art's position, I had subscribed only for Art Bell, and without him I wanted to discontinue.  Barb said Art Bell is not on Sirius.  I asked could he return and she said he will "never" be on Sirius.  I replied "never?"  Barb responded "ever."  When I asked her how she knew that, Barb said her "superior" told her that, and when I asked who that was she simply repeated "my superior."  I said I would indeed like to discontinue Sirius (I signed up for a year, and got a free car radio in the process), and Barb proceeded to indicate my subscription would run till Nov. 13th, and I would not be charged beyond that date.  [I found out later there was also a termination fee of $75, which Barb failed to mention during the call.]

During this process I asked Barb why they were doing this and she said in response to my letterS, emphasizing the plurality of letters.  Has anyone else gotten a call FROM Sirius, volunatrily ending the subscription?  The $75 fee has tempered how I feel about it, as that is roughly half a year at the monthly rate I subscribed for, and I thought it very unusual. I am an attorney by trade, and have dealt with an inordinate number of corproate types, and this woman seemed to be well-above the bottom rung of the ladder.

Anyone else receive a similar call?  My last name begins with "A" so I may be first on the list, but I may also have gotten this largely because of the over-the-top efforts I made to be passionate and yet reasonable about this whole mess to Sirius.


This is SiriusXM damage control.  Art indirectly gave them a black eye through some media reports of his departure and subsequent criticism of SiriusXM. 

Coz

Quote from: cmotors on November 11, 2013, 12:49:49 PM
I guess now it all comes down to whether they let him out of the non-compete, or if he fights it.

It would take more than two years to fight it in court.

If Sirius is not letting him go... he's stuck.

shell88

Quote from: Surmo on November 11, 2013, 12:30:03 PM
CALL FROM SIRIUS

Did subscriber get a call from Sirius like I did this morning at 11:30 a.m. EST?
I got a call from an unlisted number...I picked it up, only to have Barb of Sirius on the line.  Not a flunkie  from India, but very well educated and knowledgeable.  Barb asked me if I was a subscriber to Dark Matters, and did I still desire to quit Sirius if Art Bell was no longer on the air with them. [As an aside, I wrote passionate letters to everyone and anyone at Sirius, including by email and regular mail, asking that they keep Art on the air and work with him.  At no point in my letters did I take Sirius to task in any way, other than I wanted Art on the air.]

I told Barb that while I understood Sirius' position over Art's position, I had subscribed only for Art Bell, and without him I wanted to discontinue.  Barb said Art Bell is not on Sirius.  I asked could he return and she said he will "never" be on Sirius.  I replied "never?"  Barb responded "ever."  When I asked her how she knew that, Barb said her "superior" told her that, and when I asked who that was she simply repeated "my superior." 
I imagine they have processed and issued him his number now, and sent him to solitary confinement.

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: georgesucks on November 10, 2013, 09:41:50 PM
Art, Why did you give us the middle finger by quitting? Yes the stream may suck just like Mr Noory but I just had to hit play again on my computer. I had no problem. I just guess that you really just what a "lame" reason to quit. I do really want you on the air. I really do enjoy hearing you on the air. I am mad that you quit.

oy.

onan

Quote from: maren on November 11, 2013, 12:58:13 PM
Alas, I wish he were.

The little half moon indicates someone has put you on their buddy list.


eddie dean

Quote from: Spirit Chaser on November 11, 2013, 11:39:30 AM
I thought everything was fine.  I even thought most things said were hysterically funny and witty.  But I tried to bring up something about Sirius somehow acquiring CC numbers and I'm made fun of, misquoted and reamed for what?  So I tell people to back off or I'll report it and the backlash has been unbelievable!  Lighten up.  If the remarks I'm making were any lighter they wouldn't show up.

A friendly observation:
if you can't understand why people have challenged you on your hypocrisy, then maybe this place is not for you. You stated your anguish when sxm charged you for a service that you admitted you have attemped to aquire for free multiple times. Can you not see how hypocritical that sounds?
You posted on a public forum!  you should expect people to call others on the perceived bullshit they post.

Coz

Quote from: gbneely on November 11, 2013, 12:52:35 PM
Is it possible that Sirius is compiling a total of lost subscriptions to show damages due to Art's quitting for possible litigation? I'm not a legal authority by any stretch, but it seems Art did this without an attorney. While I'm pissed at him, I hope he didn't open himself up for any type of suit. I remember someone earlier saying the C/S representative said they were tracking cancellations because of this.

Since none of us have seen the contract that Art signed... who knows.

I sure hope he doesn't get sued. If he goes silent or makes a statement he has to be silent on advice of an attorney... there's your sign.

Also Sirius filing a lawsuit will hit the media a little bit.

ItsOver

When I cancelled this morning, the lady acted like she'd never heard of Art Bell.  "Art who?"  Damn Jess.

If Sirius gets into a long legal battle with Art, couldn't the judge grant him the right to "earn a living" while they decide the outcome? I've seen that happen with intellectual property lawsuits.

HaveAccess

Would it be worthwhile to take a poll of the satisfaction level of the player?

I dont know, we have maybe 500 - 1000 people on this forum...

The sample would - tend- to have significance...

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