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Art Bell Quits Dark Matter

Started by DesertFox, November 01, 2013, 08:13:24 AM

tertiaryimam

Quote from: zeebo on November 10, 2013, 05:00:45 PM
I heard about ten minutes of it, since I'm actually interested in the history and tradition of tarot, and the most scintillating, deep, mystical question from noorie that stood out for me was "So what's the average cost for a reading?" sigh


The most interesting interpretation of the Tarot I've yet come across is where it is tied to Tree of Life in Kabbalah:

http://www.psyche.com/psyche/qbl/tarot_sephirot.html

alleyrulez

Quote from: tertiaryimam on November 10, 2013, 03:46:12 PM

I wanted an avatar that wouldn't remind people of Tim McVeigh.

you failed in that endeavor.

phrodo

Quote from: midnight on November 10, 2013, 04:50:12 PM
When I heard the "all in" phrase I evidently didn't have the same feeling as most.  It did not sound good to me.  There was just something in the way he said it.

I can relate to that uneasy feeling -- in fact I posted the below in the Spooky Matter live discussion thread after thinking about what Art had said and how he had said it ....

Quote from: phrodo on November 01, 2013, 12:08:00 AM
Well he did say he "was going all in". You do that in poker when you think you have a winning hand and prefer the other player folds... if not the cards are laid on the table and one loses.

Seems like Art was holding four aces but Sirius beat him with a royal flush.

stevesh

Quote from: Ravenna on November 10, 2013, 05:03:24 PM
I don't understand how Sirius could have gotten your credit card number to charge you for it, since you never gave them the credit card number.

They couldn't, unless he/she had done business with SiriusXm before using that credit card. I call BS.

SpooksKFC

Quote from: zeebo on November 10, 2013, 04:54:30 PM
Dude I made similar crack, but now I'm remembering how much I loved my old walkman.  So simple, just put in tape and press play.  Now it's more like: find a usb cable, tranfser mp3 files from desktop, but you can't since you have to upgrade some software first, so do that, but also you realize you must upgrade virus scanner, ok now you've got the files, but what directory are they in, and oops ipod needs a recharge, so .... aaaargh sometimes the old ways are better.

That's why you DON'T buy Apple products!!  ::)

I recommend SanDisk or other alternatives.  Creative use to make good mp3 players, not sure if they do anymore.  I still use a Creative Zen Stone from 6 years ago that still works great.  No software needed, you just plug it in and copy your files like a flash drive.

Sardondi

Quote from: tertiaryimam on November 10, 2013, 03:43:28 PM

I must respectfully disagree with you about david icke. I have found his books to be crampacked with a lot of useful information for the improvement of life. I listen to his tapes usually at the landramat in my walkman. One time I went into the laundramat when it was crowded --- usually sunday afternoon here --- and I had some plug in speakers I hooked up to the walk man with me that everyone could listen to icke. I think I really woke a few people up out of their slumber! People of earth get off your knees the lion sleeps no more!

Go david icke. God bless you and God bless Louis Farrakhan, Harold camping and Pastor arnold murray.
Heh. A guy walks into a laundromat, plugs in his speakers without asking anyone if they'd mind and starts blaring out some English guy talking about how he has the special word that Queen Elizabeth is really a lizard. I bet you did "wake some people up out of their slumber." They probably fell all over themselves hoping they could get their clothes before you pulled out the Uzi and started shooting....

Quote from: Bart Ell on November 10, 2013, 04:15:44 PM
From The Art Of Talk
        "...I suppose this illustrates how volatile, foolish and  irresponsible I was. As I reflect on it now, I think I could not appreciate a good job when I had one. The job I walked away from at WAVZ was a coveted position for nearly anybody interested in rock radio music... but I was intolerant, maybe even a little arrogant..."

And a bit later on...

        "...When I asked her for my job back she declined to let me have it, her pride was just too great. I would not be put off so I just kept calling her. Every time she got back on the phone I told her, "I wanna get back, I wanna get back on. I know I made a mistake." I grovelled. I wanted to get back on... no, she would say. I continued to call her every day. Would she ever admit she made a mistake? No. I swallowed my pride and told her I made a mistake. It's true, I gave her an ultimatum and I should never have done that. She doesn't like ultimatums, never responds favorably to them and I knew it. I explained to her that I never should have left. I grovelled. Finally she called me and said, "Alright, damn it, come back."

Wow. It seems Art had always told us what he was like, and I for one had just never listened. Seems like acting out on his juvenile impulses is just standard operating behavior for him.

All the hero worship of him that's gone on for years is looking sillier and sillier....

zeebo

Quote from: jazmunda on November 10, 2013, 04:56:55 PM
I loved my yellow Sony walkman that I got for my thirteenth birthday but my iPod has never chewed through a tape and you can access porn on it. Not that I do but you can and my thirteen year old self would have LOVED that. :P

a fair point in favor of modern technology indeed   :)

dortmunder

Quote from: tertiaryimam on November 10, 2013, 04:22:25 PM
It was actually an mp3 player but I try to keep a Steam Punk aesthetic to my posts, Dortmunder. I hope you can sympathize.

Indeed, I can. But I was kinda hoping you actually had one.

tertiaryimam

Quote from: dortmunder on November 10, 2013, 05:15:21 PM
Indeed, I can. But I was kinda hoping you actually had one.


You think cassette will make the same kind of comeback vinyl did, eventually?

dortmunder

Quote from: Falkie2013 on November 10, 2013, 04:45:35 PM
only George Reeves was good at crashing through brick walls without damage.

But he couldn't stop a bullet. D'OH!

dortmunder

Quote from: tertiaryimam on November 10, 2013, 05:16:48 PM

You think cassette will make the same kind of comeback vinyl did, eventually?

I'm not sure tape is quite as hardwearing as vynil.

urbie88

Yeah I'm at the point of acceptance. What a waste of an opportunity. Restart the show, renew a brand, start something special on Sirius. It's all been squandered. Sirius has moved on to other things and art is left holding the bag.

AppealPlay

I just want more information about why Dark Matter was no longer, in Art's words, "viable."  Was the C. Crane Company not making enough money to justify advertising?  Was Dark Matter not bringing in enough subscribers for SiriusXM?

I don't feel like we've gotten a good explanation as to why the show had to end... :(

Uncle Duke

Quote from: Sardondi on November 10, 2013, 05:12:00 PM
Heh. A guy walks into a laundromat, plugs in his speakers without asking anyone if they'd mind and starts blaring out some English guy talking about how he has the special word that Queen Elizabeth is really a lizard. I bet you did "wake some people up out of their slumber." They probably fell all over themselves hoping they could get their clothes before you pulled out the Uzi and started shooting....


We of Irish heritage have long known the Brit royal family were lizards.

gbneely

Quote from: urbie88 on November 10, 2013, 05:19:52 PM
Yeah I'm at the point of acceptance. What a waste of an opportunity. Restart the show, renew a brand, start something special on Sirius. It's all been squandered. Sirius has moved on to other things and art is left holding the bag.

Those of us that supported Art with our money are left holding the bag. But I agree... what a waste of an opportunity.


tertiaryimam

Quote from: Uncle Duke on November 10, 2013, 05:26:06 PM
We of Irish heritage have long known the Brit royal family were lizards.


I find it interesting art bell never had David Icke back on after that one time. It's not like art had a policy against unintentionally humorous nut-jobs.

gbneely

Quote from: Art Bell on November 08, 2013, 04:52:41 PM
BTW you guy's and Gal's know me well, I can make life changing
decisions on a dime, I have always been that way for better or worse.

I guess we all did know. We know the history. I just really thought he wanted to stick it to C2C and Premier so bad, he'd never consider quitting. He sounded alive, energized, and thrilled to be on the air again. Maybe that's why his decision was so jarring.


McPhallus


Quote from: Sardondi on November 10, 2013, 10:56:41 AM
"Unfair non-compete clause". In what universe? It sure wasn't this one.

It's really a childish sentiment, and another example of people wanting the rules discarded when they become inconvenient.

midnight

Quote from: Sardondi on November 10, 2013, 05:12:00 PM
All the hero worship of him that's gone on for years is looking sillier and sillier....

In my opinion, all hero worship is actually silly.  The human race for some reason seems to have this proclivity to put one of their species high up on a pedestal, for the purpose of being worshipped.  Once they are firmly planted on the worship pedestal, the sport begins to try and knock them off.  Most usually the person being worshipped has in no way way hidden their true self. They're just as human as we are afterall.  But we love to have someone to bestow almost superhuman qualities upon.  Once we perceive a crack in the object of our worship, well....it's like let the games begin. 

It's a truly odd human behavioral pattern. 


 

tertiaryimam

Quote from: tertiaryimam on November 10, 2013, 05:33:17 PM

I find it interesting art bell never had David Icke back on after that one time. It's not like art had a policy against unintentionally humorous nut-jobs.

Although, Icke isn't really funny in the same way Hoagland is. I just listened to a few clips of the interview art did with him and Icke sounds rather blah. I think it was the assertion that Diana was murdered by the Royal Family which did it --- and I wonder why Icke wouldn't be prosecuted in the UK for making such statements?

AppealPlay

Quote from: tertiaryimam on November 10, 2013, 05:41:36 PM
Although, Icke isn't really funny in the same way Hoagland is. I just listened to a few clips of the interview art did with him and Icke sounds rather blah. I think it was the assertion that Diana was murdered by the Royal Family which did it --- and I wonder why Icke wouldn't be prosecuted in the UK for making such statements?

I think Hoagland just likes selling DVDs and tickets to retreats in the desert and whatnot.  David Icke is, well...I'm fairly certain the man is mentally ill.  Maybe he took to many soccer balls to his head.

ItsOver

Quote from: Sardondi on November 10, 2013, 05:12:00 PM
Heh. A guy walks into a laundromat, plugs in his speakers without asking anyone if they'd mind and starts blaring out some English guy talking about how he has the special word that Queen Elizabeth is really a lizard. I bet you did "wake some people up out of their slumber." They probably fell all over themselves hoping they could get their clothes before you pulled out the Uzi and started shooting....


LOL...I'm so glad you're here Sardondi.  Laughing sure beats crying.   ;D

tertiaryimam

Quote from: AppealPlay on November 10, 2013, 05:43:44 PM
I think Hoagland just likes selling DVDs and tickets to retreats in the desert and whatnot.  David Icke is, well...I'm fairly certain the man is mentally ill.  Maybe he took to many soccer balls to his head.


This video is a lot longer than necessary, but the parts about Icke's early history and interviews were interesting:

David Icke Debunked (Full Movie)

Bigfoot

Quote from: Catsmile on November 10, 2013, 03:54:16 PM
Okay I'll play along, say we do all of the above...
Now how long until a back problem here a shadow problem there until Art catches another case of FuckIts on a dime, and is gone again?

Any person with an IQ containing 3 digits can rationalize many "good" reasons why they will or won't do anything in life.

Fact is I'm seeing lots of shadow problems about the whole deal, and catching a case of FuckIts.
Let the chips fall where they may. Seems to work well for Art why not us?

Yep. 

It's entirely unreasonable to demand anything more than what Sirius has already allowed, which is letting him go without a breach of contract suit.  That's pretty damn nice and forgiving, imo.  Expecting anything more of them, instead of Art Bell--the person behind this mess--is ridiculous. 

Quote from: urbie88 on November 10, 2013, 05:19:52 PM
Yeah I'm at the point of acceptance. What a waste of an opportunity. Restart the show, renew a brand, start something special on Sirius. It's all been squandered. Sirius has moved on to other things and art is left holding the bag.

You really can't discount much of anything yet, I'm not surprised Sirius has not been in contact with Art over the weekend. I suspect a more definitive response will come on Monday. Maybe I'm wrong and Sirius does do business 24/7 and this doesn't make any sense. But my gut says that we will find out more on Monday.

Wait and see. I remain hopeful but the longer no stream is up the bleaker things appear.

Bigfoot

Quote from: Uncle Duke on November 10, 2013, 05:08:17 PM

We grew up, Art got old, his guests got goofier, his topics got saturated, his ego was taking a beating, and he quit.

The depressing truth.   :-\

Although, there *are* diamonds in the shitheap that is paranormal radio.  Bell just never gave DM a chance to become one of them.

sherry440

Quote from: ItsOver on November 10, 2013, 05:45:12 PM
LOL...I'm so glad you're here Sardondi.  Laughing sure beats crying.   ;D

Ditto.

Surmo

I'm choosing to listen to Linda and JC with Art as my last Sirius show right now.  Seven hours left!  Tomorrow I cancel Sirius.

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