Art Bell Quits Dark Matter

[kingdomofsigh]

I think that already happened starting 279 pages ago 

Yeah, we're a passionless bunch, aye? 

[kingdomofsigh]

Do your initials mean something I don't know about?

Didn't sit through all ten minutes, but I'll take the producer of this at their word...


Hitler says NEIN for 10 minutes

[mattjs2732]

well thats HIS page lol

Point is, they're publicly available. Its not like some passerby shot a ton of pics and posted them.

[Falkie2013]

well thats HIS page lol

Super Typhoon Haiyan (Yolanda) Hits Philippines "RAW FOOTAGE"


www.youtube.com/watch?v=veP6N-NJKa8

[basswood]

maybe i missed something lol someone askes me something i tell them then they get mad cos i answered them. lol

Some nerve, dude 

[Queen]

In the beginning there was Art. Then up sprang a very unusual show named Dark Matter.  A whirlwind of excitement at bellgab arose, as the show premiered.  As all gathered together with there aluminum  hats and there chatty cats. When all of a sudden 7 weeks later, abruptly Dark Matter and the unusual host himself  fell into a worm hole!  Hence the need for Artoholics Anonymous.  As years of grief and counseling will be given as the the bellgab group will rage.  Provided with pizza punch and set of lips with a supper glued cigarette attached and all the necessities any Artoholic will require. A frequent dose of chupacabra juice followed by a splendor of good cheer and dance with Abba music to accompany. They (the Artoholics) will at some point slowly recover. But rest assure that they will never, ever, be quiet the same. FAREWELL ART, FAREWELL DARK MATTER, GOD SPEED.

now that hes gone maybe Shannen Doherty can come out of retirement ohhhh yeaaaaa.

[Sumthins Goin On]

Sort of worth saying this, though I hate to. If C. Crane wasn't selling enough product, then there goes the sponsorship. Art has said as much. If the subscription surge for Art started dropping dramatically at the end of the trial period, then there goes SXM's meter of how this was going. Again, Art's said as much. If Art wasn't getting the calls he needed and the quality wasn't what he felt he needed, again, Art's said as much. Well, you get the picture, how much more does it take before the show gets cancelled?

I absolutely hate writing that, I've listened to Art since 1995. I consider his style to have been the epitome of night time radio that requires a talent that won't come again. I listen to some of those old shows and it sends chills down my spine how great it was. DM was approaching that, there were times over that 7 weeks where it might as well have been 1996 because Art was back in his prime and cooking like gas. The Hoagland interview was probably the best he's done with Richard C. It was fantastic, warm and hilarious. Let's not forget Albert Taylor's enthusiasm for his robots, or the chilling statements of Charles Faddis. I have no doubt that Art knows he hit some home runs there and the show, if properly arranged (which is what Art says he's trying to do), would hit some more.... a lot of them.

But it may be that Art was simply moving while he still could. Had he not, we might have been facing no show regardless.

So cut him some slack guys. Let's wait for the yes or the no. If we get a no and Art tells us that he'll see us in two years without a fight, then by all means, go ape shit. But let's wait and see. I'm betting we'll get better than that.

And really, if Art wanted to give you all the finger, he'd have done so. Bam, close down FB, never post here again, and that's that. But we don't have that, do we? We've got Art spending time here and composing posts. We've got Paul as a freaking regular interacting. No, this is no narrative. This is what it appears to be. Let's be supportive for a while longer and see what happens.

Yeah Yeah what the fish said above.....I concur....

[Hells Mole]

I have been here all along but have been unable to post.  So I am a great big nobody but I still have a few things to say.

I started listening to C2C in 1995 and Art became a late-night companion over the years.  I was there listening along with many others here I'm sure through so many iconic moments over those years.  Though Art continued with C2C into the mid-00's sometimes on weekends he didn't seem to have the same energy in it as he had previously.  It was with great joy that I signed up for Sirius and began listening on the 16th of Sept.  Art was BACK!!  In a big way!  All the passion and energy and life from the past was back and then some.  I thoroughly enjoyed every moment of Dark Matter.  With all that was wrong in the world, Art's presence in the evenings seemed to be a sign that there were still some things right.  I see these sentiments echoed all over the net by others.  I don't know what magic Art has but it's some kind of special gift and when he's sharing with the world it's a better place.

Of course I'm disappointed at what has transpired, but I'm not behind the scenes and I don't know what all has really gone on.  Art's proposition sounds pretty fair to me.  In any case I have no judgment on what the right or wrong thing to have done is, it's not even my place to say, but I will for damn sure be wherever it is he is broadcasting if he is broadcasting anywhere.

I really hope this non-compete BS gets waived or something else works out because who knows what will happen in two years.

[Mind Flayer Monk]

I have been here all along but have been unable to post.  So I am a great big nobody but I still have a few things to say.

Great screen name, well done.

[AZ/CO]

I have been here all along but have been unable to post.  So I am a great big nobody but I still have a few things to say.

I started listening to C2C in 1995 and Art became a late-night companion over the years.  I was there listening along with many others here I'm sure through so many iconic moments over those years.  Though Art continued with C2C into the mid-00's sometimes on weekends he didn't seem to have the same energy in it as he had previously.  It was with great joy that I signed up for Sirius and began listening on the 16th of Sept.  Art was BACK!!  In a big way!  All the passion and energy and life from the past was back and then some.  I thoroughly enjoyed every moment of Dark Matter.  With all that was wrong in the world, Art's presence in the evenings seemed to be a sign that there were still some things right.  I see these sentiments echoed all over the net by others.  I don't know what magic Art has but it's some kind of special gift and when he's sharing with the world it's a better place.

Of course I'm disappointed at what has transpired, but I'm not behind the scenes and I don't know what all has really gone on.  Art's proposition sounds pretty fair to me.  In any case I have no judgment on what the right or wrong thing to have done is, it's not even my place to say, but I will for damn sure be wherever it is he is broadcasting if he is broadcasting anywhere.

I really hope this non-compete BS gets waived or something else works out because who knows what will happen in two years.

Well said.  Thank you.

[Mind Flayer Monk]

What do you suppose is going on in the minds of the Sirius execs, now, who are holding art's --- and our own --- future in their hands?

They are probably happy that whoever signed Art did his job.

[HorrorReporter]

I am STILL seeing nothing from  10pm to midnight on the nightly schedules http://www.siriusxm.com/siriusxmstarstoo/weeklyschedule

[analog kid]

I hear George has found a new vigor and enthusiasm on his show since Art quit.

[TheGrimCreeper1]

I hear George has found a new vigor and enthusiasm on his show since Art quit.

Great. So now he sucks with more energy.

[awguy]

If by territorial pissing you mean that they were not too thrilled with how Art handled things the first time then yes Sirius might be less inclined to consider a new deal. The no communication since the proposal speaks volumes. They may in fact never respond as they have already moved on.

That's what I think is going on. SiriusXm has been seemingly quick to respond to all his other requests... why would this be any different? If we don't hear back by the end of business Monday, we won't hear back at all and Art is being ignored. I'm not getting a good feeling about this... I think we've heard the last episode of Dark Matter.... for at least two years.

[FallenSeraph]

280 pages. Holy crikey.

[lightningline]

Just got this this morning after writing Sirius about Art...pretty cold and to the point...I gave them feedback and they could care less.  BTW...made a groovy Artvatar...like it?

Dear Ms <<<<<<<<(its Mr By the way)

Thank you for contacting SiriusXM regarding our programming.


It was Art Bell's decision to end his Dark Matter program on SiriusXM. We wish him the best in the future.

We continually rely on customer feedback like yours and research to enhance your entertainment experience. As we strive to create the most diverse listening experience available, we find that the feedback we receive is crucial to our success. We are forwarding your comments to the appropriate programming team.

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[gbneely]

I find it funny that Art has now decided running a free stream from a website is the way to go. Couldn't he have done this all along? It's also a mystery to me that with all of these "ongoing issues" since the start of the show, he allowed the thirty day opt out to expire. I am guessing the opt out is there so either party can terminate without penalty and makes the entirety of the contract null and void. In the end, I believe the numbers were bad. Very bad. And that probably means a bubble has been created by his hardcore fans, the ones who were willing to pay a premium to hear him broadcast. There wasn't enough to differentiate Art's pay for product from the free product for the casual listener. In other words, to the casual listener, paranormal radio is paranormal radio. Their thoughts are, "I can hear about bigfoot and portals for free and this company wants me to by a subscription to hear about it. Not happening." Faced with this, I think Art simply gave up. It's a lot of work, I'm sure, to build a radio show form scratch, especially on a format where you're asking people to pay for what they believe they can readily have free. I think over time, Art has made himself irrelevant, mostly due to his past actions. For every act of quitting, or other perceived slights to his listeners, more moved on. I believe what we've witnessed this week is mere sophistry from Art, designed mostly to save face and shift the burden from himself to Sirius. I have never given up on Art, but as of this stunt, Mr. Bell, I am done. Should you ever continue, in any format, which I find doubtful, I won't be tuning in. I truly believe you have misled many, and acted with a lack of integrity toward the listeners this time. I thank you for the memories. Your old show was one of the few things my dad and I could talk about for hours and that will always be special to me. For those who say, "It's not our place to say anything," I say this: Fuck you. I paid for my subscription and, that alone, gives me the right. Of course, that comes with the caveat that this is sight belongs to someone who can remove this if they choose.

[Colorado ESQ]

Just to be clear AGAIN, a Independent Broadcaster is somebody who is generally not exclusive to Sirius/Xm
but is still carried, Like Coast was and many other shows. The sad part is that we proposed that over a Week
ago and even said we would remain exclusive to Sirius/XM in the Broadcast World and would only stream on
the Web Site. Sadly they have not replied.

I will indeed honor my NC if they want me to and I am fairly sure they will, if not I will stream the show to you
as I said I would. I do not understand why they would not since it was such a win-win. We would no longer be
employees so their cost would have been near zero. I am concerned there are other factors at work here, time
will tell.

                                                                                                                            Art

Art, Why are you so eager and willing to honor the noncompete? If you wanted to avoid it you could. Have you consulted a lawyer? If you really want to stream a show regardless of XMSirius you would be working with and through a lawyer to negotiate the arrangement or to get out of the NC. You could get out of the NC if you really wanted out. I am a lawyer and question your repeated offer and eager willingness to comply with the noncompete without legal formal negotiation, or a fight. If you want to do a show you can get around this. Don't be so eager and willing to comply.

[DanTSX]

Is it me but is all this coming off as a really weird episode of Kabuki Theater where samurais are running around making speeches and people are dying all over the place ?

It's off listening to old art on somewhere in time while reading him post live here

That's just the start

[FallenSeraph]

I find it funny that Art has now decided running a free stream from a website is the way to go. Couldn't he have done this all along? It's also a mystery to me that with all of these "ongoing issues" since the start of the show, he allowed the thirty day opt out to expire. I am guessing the opt out is there so either party can terminate without penalty and makes the entirety of the contract null and void. In the end, I believe the numbers were bad. Very bad. And that probably means a bubble has been created by his hardcore fans, the ones who were willing to pay a premium to hear him broadcast. There wasn't enough to differentiate Art's pay for product from the free product for the casual listener. In other words, to the casual listener, paranormal radio is paranormal radio. Their thoughts are, "I can hear about bigfoot and portals for free and this company wants me to by a subscription to hear about it. Not happening." Faced with this, I think Art simply gave up. It's a lot of work, I'm sure, to build a radio show form scratch, especially on a format where you're asking people to pay for what they believe they can readily have free. I think over time, Art has made himself irrelevant, mostly due to his past actions. For every act of quitting, or other perceived slights to his listeners, more moved on. I believe what we've witnessed this week is mere sophistry from Art, designed mostly to save face and shift the burden from himself to Sirius. I have never given up on Art, but as of this stunt, Mr. Bell, I am done. Should you ever continue, in any format, which I find doubtful, I won't be tuning in. I truly believe you have misled many, and acted with a lack of integrity toward the listeners this time. I thank you for the memories. Your old show was one of the few things my dad and I could talk about for hours and that will always be special to me.

I think this is pretty well said. I just wish he wouldn't have given up so soon.

My mom and I used to listen to C2C together. I think a lot of us have sentimental ties to him like this. Younger generations don't. I'm sure it does all sound pretty much the same to those who aren't familiar with Art. Sad. I listened to Somewhere In Time last night and just felt sad.

[Whitley Victor]

I'm sorry but that is such a bullshit response. Evil Premiere at it again, pulling the strings from the shadows. Give me a break.

PREM: Hey uh, were a little worried Art's show if he is allowed to steam could become a ratings Juggernaut, generating tons of cash for you guys and destroying C2C. Whaddaya say you shut it down Mr XM boss man.

Sirius Exec: (Evil laugh)  Ok.
.




Totally plausible!

[fave]

Maybe if we all concentrate really hard we can get the Sirius satellites to short circuit and they will have no choice to let Art go his own way.

[mattjs2732]

Maybe if we all concentrate really hard we can get the Sirius satellites to short circuit and they will have no choice to let Art go his own way.

There we go, how ironic would that be? BellGabbers unite for mass conscious experiment to get SiriusXM to give into Art's demands and get him back on the air.

If Art's back on the air tomorrow night, this would completely freak me out and make me a believer.

[oleironskillet]

My bet is still on shadow people.

Definitely!!!!!

[kjosa]

"Somewhere in Time" being available free over the broadcast airwaves hurt Art get Sirius subscribers a lot. Many potential listeners decided just to listen to it rather than pay to hear Art. I think Art knew this would happen and it is one reason he asked for Premiere to cancel the show. Premiere also knew it would hurt Art and help Noory's show indirectly, that is why they keep it on. It's all very calculated, shrewd, and Machiavellian but it worked for Premiere.

[oleironskillet]

I still think it's the ol' corporate 'sweat 'em through the weekend' act.

Nothing is going to happen until Monday.  Afternoon.  Last minute.

Fuck, I made bacon-banana bread.  These are strange, dark times, BellGabbers.

ooh, Banana-Bacon Bread...

[Producer-Paul]

Isn't Monday a federal holiday?
Execs may not work on a holiday.

Just sayin'.... 

[mattjs2732]

Isn't Monday a federal holiday?
Execs may not work on a holiday.

Just sayin'....

Just goes to prove the point of a mass conscious experiment and how well it would work, Paul!

[HorrorReporter]

Isn't Monday a federal holiday?
Execs may not work on a holiday.

Just sayin'....

Here is the latest from the Sirius boardroom. They are trying to make some tough decisions ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2QJvc_SxFQ