Art Bell Quits Dark Matter

[phrodo]

artbell.com has put up a post about abandongate:

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More at SiriusBuzz.

That was an article from a net wag... nothing official and basically just regurgitated the stock email that was being sent out.

[guildnavigator]

you know where all really up late, especially with the time change

Yeah... I'm outta here.

[jazmunda]

artbell.com has put up a post about abandongate:

Art Bell Leaves SiriusXM
Posted on November 5, 2013 in Media Coverage | 1 View | Leave a response

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More at SiriusBuzz.

Keith has picked up the same article link that was posted earlier in this thread.

[jazmunda]

Yeah... I'm outta here.

Take me with you. It's only 8:47pm here and I just want this day to be over already.

[stevenotero]

Well, received MV's email while at work tonight. Half-stunned yet oddly not surprised... I sort of ignored it until I could get home and just plowed through 53 pages here.

When Art mentioned the night before Halloween that he had a big announcement to make, that he was going 'all in', my eternal optimism kicked in. Thought to myself HELL YEAH, Art is going 5 days a week, or they will now have weekend hosts (Knapp? Could it BE???), or, what I was really hoping for... Art had mentioned early on that hey, you never know, we may get our own dedicated channel here with 24 hours of paranormal/weird radio.

When he announced the asking Sirius for free streaming thing on 10/31, it was a non-event for me. I work while Art broadcasts. No biggie. I paid my subscription fee and listen thru my phone.

Not sure how I feel about all this. Definitely disappointed. Not really angry at Art or Sirius. Don't really get the resistance to Art streaming for free... yes, it goes against Sirius' business model. If it's getting pirated, wtf does it matter anyway if Art's subscriber attrition comment is accurate?

Streaming has been an issue at Sirius. Talk to O&A fans, or read the live show threads here. How big of an issue? No clue. I've had no problem on my 4g iPhone. That doesn't vitiate someone having constant 1001 errors. Conversely, someone squawking on the interwebz about dropped connections doesn't make it endemic either.

I do think this show, more than others due to demographics/time slot, probably hammers Sirius streaming more than others. I can't believe that Sirius wouldn't have their collective shit together enough to handle tens of thousands of Art Bell fans.

I get Art's point about it affecting callers, and wanting to reach international listeners. I also don't read at all Art blaming 'shitty callers' or truckers, etc... I think people are upset and reading something that isn't being implied. I dig that, but I'm not reading that.

Still... this totally feels like Art fumble-fucked this. Image is everything, and it looks like he said 'eff it, taking my ball and going home.'

My lame quasi I know what the hell I'm talking about assessment -- Art sees the subscription number renewal fall off the cliff. Art sees the possibility of a cancelation. Art counters with hey, people aren't re-upping do to a streaming issue (on top of piracy), let's stream for free (live only), people still pay $15/month for the value added BS like show archives. Sirius says no. Art says fuck you.

Art sees how Skype can integrate easily, sees how he can instantly reach anyone worldwide with an internet connection, maybe Keith blows some smoke how his 12-y.o. nephew could setup a streaming server, Art talks to Alan Corbeth (sp?) and a few other industry friends on keeping revenue in-house, Art sees himself making more $ by offering the show for free (how any of this jives with whether there is/isn't a no compete clause, I have no clue).

If Sirius streaming really, truly is an issue, I'm not sure how this was Art's fault not knowing this ahead of time. On the other hand, it seems like Art should have put a lot more thought into this before putting ink to paper.

For all the idiots like me who will listen to Art read the Pahrump yellow pages on a weekly podcast, you got the butthurt crowd out there.

6 weeks? Serious misfire if he wants to (and legally can) start another venture sans Sirius. He spent most of his currency/legacy/goodwill/reputation on this Sirius debut.

How many people will show up for Art Bell 2.0 (or is that 3.0? 4.0? 5.0?)? Me? Definitely. Anybody else? That's anyone's guess.

It's like September 15 all over again -- George Noory *still* sucks.

Amen

[George Drooly]

George Noory still sucks

[Queen]

Bell is a radio icon, and will continue his show on the web.  It is unfortunate that SiriusXM could not match up to his needs. 


So dark matter isn't over??

[Camazotz Automat]

Well, I was hoping this shitty news wouldn't set the tone for the rest of the week and I guess it hasn't. I just scored a writing gig.  Won't pay too much but at least it'll make up for paying a month-and-a-half's worth of Sirius. And it will give me something to take my mind off of worrying about Art Bell. And, God, I do need the money. Hope you all get some good news too this week.

That speaks to my heart of hearts. Congrats, Dortmunder!

[dortmunder]

Anyone else see this cryptic post on the "Art Bell leaves SiriusXM" Facebook post:

Jim Burgess I think it stinks. All you had to do is post free shows on you tube. Or have an outside source steam your content. I spent 60 bucks for nothing. I will not spend money like this again. Hey Art, you want free ? Go back to Radio.
Like · Reply · 1 · 28 minutes ago

Art Bell.com And it just might go that way....
Like · 1 · 8 minutes ago

Keith Rowland runs that page, so he must have posted it. Interesting. Or not. Maybe just more dingly-dangly nonsense.

[dortmunder]

George Noory still sucks

Time for a new compendium?

[HumanBeing]

Yep George Noory still sucks... and we all found out, at least those who did not already know, Art's an asshole with zero integrity and yeah he has tiny balls.

[jazmunda]

Bell is a radio icon, and will continue his show on the web.  It is unfortunate that SiriusXM could not match up to his needs. 


So dark matter isn't over??

That was pure conjecture on behalf of the writer with no evidence to back it up.

[QAPete]

For the record, I have not had any significant streaming problems on SiriusXM since they started streaming over the internet.

I would be surprised if Art realistically thought that he was going to do a show on SiriusXM without SOME technical issues for SOME people.  Also, he knew going in he wasn't getting an international audience.  No surprise there.

To me, the real issue here is that, as passionate as we real fans are, there just aren't enough of us calling in to the show to make the job of hosting it easier.  Art has been working *hard* with nearly three hours of interviews per show, with only a couple of exceptions.  Try TALKING with someone for 2 1/2 - 3 hours, let alone interview them for a radio show.  The heavy lifting must have been too damned much for Art, and he simply had enough.  As much as he loves doing a show, it was too much damned work.

This sucks.  I still hope to hear Art in the future, though.  There's no-one quite like him, and he's 68 years-old.  I hope this isn't how his illustrious broadcasting career ends.

[onan]

For the record, I have not had any significant streaming problems on SiriusXM since they started streaming over the internet.

I would be surprised if Art realistically thought that he was going to do a show on SiriusXM without SOME technical issues for SOME people.  Also, he knew going in he wasn't getting an international audience.  No surprise there.

To me, the real issue here is that, as passionate as we real fans are, there just aren't enough of us calling in to the show to make the job of hosting it easier.  Art has been working *hard* with nearly three hours of interviews per show, with only a couple of exceptions.  Try TALKING with someone for 2 1/2 - 3 hours, let alone interview them for a radio show.  The heavy lifting must have been too damned much for Art, and he simply had enough.  As much as he loves doing a show, it was too much damned work.

This sucks.  I still hope to hear Art in the future, though.  There's no-one quite like him, and he's 68 years-old.  I hope this isn't how his illustrious broadcasting career ends.

Listen to the Dreamland shows.

[littlechris]

Yep George Noory still sucks... and we all found out, at least those who did not already know, Art's an asshole with zero integrity and yeah he has tiny balls.

TRUTH ^

[dortmunder]

That speaks to my heart of hearts. Congrats, Dortmunder!

Thanks! :-)

[George Drooly]

Time for a new compendium?

The Art Bell Cookbook: Nothing But Waffles For Every Meal

[phrodo]

Listen to the Dreamland shows.

I found quite a few on youtube - was listening to a few over the weekend ... they're excellent and love that dreamland music -- except most started out with a report from LMH when she was only LH.  But Art was excellent.

[Morgus]

Listen to the Dreamland shows.

yes - when Art did the Sunday Dreamland shows back in the 90's they were a 3 hour show with Linda Howe on in the first hour and a 2 hour interview with a guest, and NO callers at all.
maybe he should have used that format as a model?

[dortmunder]

The Art Bell Cookbook: Nothing But Waffles For Every Meal

Except he'll stop writing it half-way through because his word-processor isn't up to snuff.

[TumbleWeed]

Listen to the Dreamland shows.

Art was in his 40's and 50's back then.
Bounding with energy.

[George Drooly]

Except he'll stop writing it half-way through because his word-processor isn't up to snuff.

I'm sure George can finish it for him

[jazmunda]

For those that have cancelled their Sirius account what happens if this situation is resolved?

* For the record I don't believe that there will be a favorable (for us) resolution but what if?

[jazmunda]

The Art Bell Cookbook: Nothing But Waffles For Every Meal

Only for a limited time but you must purchase a years worth. No refunds.

[onan]

Art was in his 40's and 50's back then.
Bounding with energy.

It isn't driving spikes on the railroad.

But speaking of energy, I really am not interested in investing more about Art. My only point was Art has the skills to converse for several hours and call ins aren't as important as he is suggesting now.

For all it's worth, he has become similar to a bad date. Someday I will laugh about it, but for now I am glad the night is over.

[Luna]

Well... good night people.

Sign my petition! >.< Send Sirius XM a letter! Email them!
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/artbell/

[ringthane]

Bell is a radio icon, and will continue his show on the web.  It is unfortunate that SiriusXM could not match up to his needs. 


So dark matter isn't over??

Someone posted here a convo over at Facebook (iirc) stating 'Art, if you wanted FREE, you shoulda gone terrestrial radio' and Art responded with a 'that may just happen.'

Paraphrased, of course.

How all this plays out with a Sirius no compete I have no idea. If the Sirius streaming was an issue, could it be an escape hatch?

Plus the ass licking sycophants like me on one side, and all the negative Nancy "I told you so!"s on the other... who the hell knows how this will play out.

What's the name of that distant second Clear Channel competitor, the guy/company who recently made major moves in the NYC market and was supposedly in talks with Art? Cumulus? I think that's them.

If Cumulus wanted Art bad enough...

It's easy being negative, really. You see sports fans do it all the time... they're emotionally fragile, can't handle disappointment, they call the Steelers having a losing season before it even starts and sure enough, flood the forums with 'told you so, Roethlisberger has **NO** offensive line you fools!' (sorry non-USians, too tired/stupid to craft a 'true' football or cricket or whatever-the-eff analogy right now).

Calling it now, freaks -- Art back on terrestrial radio by January 6, 2014.

(and retires for good by Q3 2014)

.: ducks :.

[area51drone]

Don't let the door hit y'all on the way out folks.   I'm sticking with Art.  Since I have a pro-Art attitude, I still get to enjoy listening to the old shows.   You guys are missing out... that's your problem. 

[George Drooly]

"He's jerking us off, folks, jerking us off..."

[Ward]

Well... good night people.

Sign my petition! >.< Send Sirius XM a letter! Email them!
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/artbell/

Goodnight Luna brave of you to start the petition, hope something good comes of it.

Goodnight for me as well.