Steve Warner's Dark City

Started by bateman, October 27, 2013, 04:54:49 PM

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jazmunda

If we are doing requests here I remember someone calling into Art during Dark Matter and asking him if he'd do a show on feral humans. I think that would be an interesting topic to explore.

I believe Art once did a C2CAM show on feral humans but i have no idea who the guest was (Edit - looked it up and it was a guy called Jeff Holland - can't find any other information about him).

I couldn't find an author who had written about feral humans but I have a link to a book about savage children. Not sure how this guy would interview but he would know some creepy tales. Worth a look.

http://www.amazon.com/Savage-Girls-Wild-Boys-Children/dp/0312423357/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1386065573&sr=8-2&keywords=savage+children

BobGrau

Quote from: Agent : Orange on December 03, 2013, 04:09:31 AM
I'd like to make a guest request. Please have Grant Morrison on the show.
http://youtu.be/xr-3zUjZgl0
He is a prolific writer, who has worked mainly at both DC and Marvel comics, but has also produced some work outside of comics. However, you really wouldn't need to know much of his work to get a prolific interview out of him.

Bobgrau should really be credited with this, he suggested Dark Weekend as a possible way to hear an interview with Morrison on the "reading minds" thread.

Grant Morrison gets the credit for anything and everything I've ever said that was even remotely funny or interesting.
I always meant to suggest Grant to Ian Punnett as I believe he would've handled it best. Thank the Lord we've got lil punnett!  :D

bateman

I am absolutely open to guest requests & recommendations. I'm not doing this show for an audience of one.  8)

Feral humans:  ✓
Grant Morrison:  ✓
William T. Vollmann:  ✓

bateman

Quote from: nika01 on December 01, 2013, 09:29:27 PM
Yes, he is entertaining sometimes. The sheer nonsense of it is fun. What scares me are those that believe. It would make a great Phd thesis for some budding sociologist.

And that's exactly why I wanted him. I hope it doesn't sound like I took him too seriously though, I was attempting a tricky balance between jokey and serious, and I'm not sure how it came across. You guys will have to make that determination. I kept trying to ground things, but he kept steering the car in the NAZI BASES ON THE MOON WHY DOESN'T ANYONE LISTEN TO ME JUST LOOK AT THE EVIDENCE direction. Actually, it was a little like the being driven around by Cameron Diaz in Vanilla Sky.

Quote from: nika01 on December 01, 2013, 09:30:43 PM
What I cant figure out is whether be believes his own bullshit, or not.

It is really hard to tell. I lean "yes" though.

George Drooly

Barry Malzberg:

QuoteThe first sf novels to appear under Malzberg's own name were sceptical commentaries on the Apollo programme: The Falling Astronauts (1971), Revelations (1972) and Beyond Apollo (1972). The third caused some controversy when it won the John W Campbell Memorial Award despite its sarcastic and negative attitude to Space Flight. The three novels feature astronauts as archetypes of alienated contemporary humanity, struggling to make sense of an incomprehensible world and unable to account for their failure. All Malzberg's central characters are caught in such existential traps, and the measure of his versatility is the large number of such situations which he was able to construct in a half-decade of intense productivity using the vocabularies of ideas typical of sf and erotic fantasy.

Malzberg's writing is unparalleled in its intensity and in its apocalyptic sensibility. His detractors consider him bleakly monotonous and despairing, but he is a master of black Humour, and is one of the few writers to have used sf's vocabulary of ideas extensively as apparatus in psychological landscapes, dramatizing relationships between the human mind and its social environment in an sf theatre of the absurd. The few novels which he has published since 1976 include three fine novels featuring real historical characters. The hero of the black comedy Chorale (1978) becomes Beethoven, while that of the remarkably intense The Cross of Fire (1982) becomes Jesus Christ; both are in search of a better psychological balance but find their quests frustrating. The Remaking of Sigmund Freud (fixup 1985) has the father of psychoanalysis failing miserably to master his own difficulties while trying to assist Emily Dickinson, and subsequently â€" following his technological Reincarnation â€" coming apart while failing to solve the problems involved in Communication with Aliens.



Quote from: nika01 on December 01, 2013, 09:29:27 PM
Yes, he is entertaining sometimes. The sheer nonsense of it is fun. What scares me are those that believe. It would make a great Phd thesis for some budding sociologist.


Hoaxie was entertaining the first couple times.  That was about it.

onan

Quote from: Paper*Boy on December 05, 2013, 12:49:25 AM

Hoaxie was entertaining the first couple times.  That was about it.


Yep, he is like the Matrix trilogy. the first movie was like "OMG", the second was, "wut?", and the third was "this makes no sense".

bateman

Richard Hoagland and his magnificent head of hair can be heard on Dark Weekend tonight at 10PM EST on the Dark Matter Radio Network.



We'll be talking about secret moon bases, breakaway civilization, astronauts & UFOs, and his work at CBS, among other things..

IcicleTrepan

We also had a discussion at one point about people living in other people's houses etc without their knowledge.  Remember, the secret door/staircase behind the false bookshelf?

I think that would make for an amazing show, just not sure who you could get on to talk about that.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: bateman on December 07, 2013, 04:12:35 PM
Richard Hoagland and his magnificent head of hair can be heard on Dark Weekend tonight at 10PM EST on the Dark Matter Radio Network.



We'll be talking about secret moon bases, breakaway civilization, astronauts & UFOs, and his work at CBS, among other things..


I wished you'd had Dr Stuart Robbins on at the same time... Then his repertoire would be severely shaken to the core.

bateman

Quote from: IcicleTrepan on December 07, 2013, 04:46:56 PM
We also had a discussion at one point about people living in other people's houses etc without their knowledge.  Remember, the secret door/staircase behind the false bookshelf?

I think that would make for an amazing show, just not sure who you could get on to talk about that.

Hmm, I'll give it some thought. Very creepy, but yeah, I'm not sure who to talk to.

bateman

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 07, 2013, 04:57:30 PM
I wished you'd had Dr Stuart Robbins on at the same time... Then his repertoire would be severely shaken to the core.

Or James Oberg, who he calls "Mr. Disinformation"  ;)

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: bateman on December 07, 2013, 04:57:30 PM
Hmm, I'll give it some thought. Very creepy, but yeah, I'm not sure who to talk to.


Mary Norton, but you'll need a clairvoyant, she died in the 80's..she wrote 'The Borrowers'

WhiteCrow

Quote from: bateman on December 07, 2013, 04:12:35 PM
Richard Hoagland and his magnificent head of hair can be heard on Dark Weekend tonight at 10PM EST on the Dark Matter Radio Network.


We'll be talking about secret moon bases, breakaway civilization, astronauts & UFOs, and his work at CBS, among other things..

Based on your prior shows....
No need to remind 'me' of your broadcast tonight.
It's on my calendar!

jazmunda

Master bate(man), I am unable to listen live today. Are you going to have a link available after the show for my aural pleasure.

bateman

Quote from: WhiteCrow on December 07, 2013, 06:53:46 PM
Based on your prior shows....
No need to remind 'me' of your broadcast tonight.
It's on my calendar!

Thank yeewww!

Quote from: jazmunda on December 07, 2013, 08:46:38 PM
Master bate(man), I am unable to listen live today. Are you going to have a link available after the show for my aural pleasure.

WHY IS THAT? WHAT ELSE ARE YOU DOING?

(yes, it'll be available tomorrow.)

jazmunda

Quote from: bateman on December 07, 2013, 08:52:04 PM

WHY IS THAT? WHAT ELSE ARE YOU DOING?

(yes, it'll be available tomorrow.)

If you want to explain to my 5 year old daughter why I am locked in a dark room listening to a strange man over the internet instead of enjoying her birthday party then I will listen live. ;)

bateman

Quote from: jazmunda on December 07, 2013, 09:09:59 PM
If you want to explain to my 5 year old daughter why I am locked in a dark room listening to a strange man over the internet instead of enjoying her birthday party then I will listen live. ;)

I'm sure it wouldn't be the first time a conversation like that has taken place.

WhiteCrow

Hogie should write a James Bond movie screen play "Doctor No's Moon Base"



ziznak

Damn, you know you've really hit the big time when you can get hoagy as a guest!  Be careful man coast will have your future shows on the poaching radar.

I'd like to see two separate shows featuring S. Robbins and Expat.

let us know as the new shows become available... I've just stumbled in.

Cynnie

I suck ..ive been missing everything!!

gbneely

I wasn't able to listen to the RCH show (FSU beats Duke - Pasadena bound, woohoo). The others you have posted on SoundCloud have been terrific. I'm looking forward to the latest.

popple

Quote from: bateman on December 07, 2013, 08:52:04 PM
Thank yeewww!

WHY IS THAT? WHAT ELSE ARE YOU DOING?

(yes, it'll be available tomorrow.)

*waits*

The Keith McCloskey show is on the main page so I'll give it another listen. Still just as spooky as the 1st listen. This will be my 4th.

WhiteCrow

Entertaining broadcast with Hogie. 
It was like trying to herd cats and stay respectful at the same time.
An impossible task but you handled him well.



Juan

It shows that Hoagland can be interesting when someone holds him a bit in check.  I kept thinking what he said had some degree of possibility, which is all I ever hope for from Hoagland.  He must have enjoyed himself, as he kept saying "when you have me back."

bateman

Quote from: ziznak on December 07, 2013, 10:29:26 PM
Damn, you know you've really hit the big time when you can get hoagy as a guest!  Be careful man coast will have your future shows on the poaching radar.

Which is why I've decided not to announce guests in advance.

Quote from: WhiteCrow on December 08, 2013, 09:17:10 AM
Entertaining broadcast with Hogie. 
It was like trying to herd cats and stay respectful at the same time.
An impossible task but you handled him well.

Thanks, yeah, that's the trick of it. If you take him too seriously, you sound like a buffoon, take him to task on every single point & it just devolves into incomprehensible yelling. It's a tricky balance, he's definitely not the easiest interview.

Quote from: gbneely on December 07, 2013, 11:18:06 PM
I wasn't able to listen to the RCH show (FSU beats Duke - Pasadena bound, woohoo). The others you have posted on SoundCloud have been terrific. I'm looking forward to the latest.

Thank yeewww. Here it is: https://soundcloud.com/dark-weekend/richard-c-hoagland-discusses

bateman

Quote from: Juan on December 08, 2013, 12:50:52 PM
It shows that Hoagland can be interesting when someone holds him a bit in check.  I kept thinking what he said had some degree of possibility, which is all I ever hope for from Hoagland.  He must have enjoyed himself, as he kept saying "when you have me back."

Thanks, that was I was going for. Let him get his story out, because his ideas are amusing, but work in questions about his background that haven't really been touched on in previous interviews & poke holes in some of his stories without sounding like an argumentative prick. Again, tricky.

It would have turned into this if I let him drive the car all by himself:


Yorkshire pud

Quote from: bateman on December 08, 2013, 12:54:13 PM
Which is why I've decided not to announce guests in advance.

Thanks, yeah, that's the trick of it. If you take him too seriously, you sound like a buffoon, take him to task on every single point & it just devolves into incomprehensible yelling. It's a tricky balance, he's definitely not the easiest interview.


Oh, I would imagine Mike Bara will be a handful. You might get away with being accused of being a Turkish prison inmate or told (used as an 'insult') you're a homosexual, if you question his credentials or point out almost everything he espouses is wrong. You may have to field him suggesting that any female guests are too ugly to reproduce...good luck with that.

bateman

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 08, 2013, 01:04:39 PM
Oh, I would imagine Mike Bara will be a handful. You might get away with being accused of being a Turkish prison inmate or told (used as an 'insult') you're a homosexual, if you question his credentials or point out almost everything he espouses is wrong. You may have to field him suggesting that any female guests are too ugly to reproduce...good luck with that.

Yeah, the entertainment factor is also significantly lower. Not worth the aggravation.

saucerlike

Thank you Bateman, can't wait to listen to this one.  :)   I hate to give credit to Noory, but his sucking so bad is the reason I'm here discovering these awesome podcasts.  I don't usually get to listen live so the d/l links are much appreciated.

The general podcast section here has been the saving grace with this whole xm debacle.

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