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norland2424

Quote from: Roswells, Art on August 28, 2016, 07:05:07 PM
You have a funny way of expressing gratitude.
thats why you shouldnt be nice to people lol

K_Dubb

Quote from: albrecht on August 28, 2016, 07:21:10 PM
Nice.
As I mentioned before I really don't like contemporary service music and the 'new' or 'global' music many churches are introducing, including the Lutheran ones. I get marketing or whatever but maybe it would help people appreciate good music if they still played it. And in schools etc. I'm lucky to have a city that still appreciates and encourages orchestra and choir in schools and has good programs and performances at the university, opera house, and elsewhere but lots of districts are eliminating that kind of thing (art, music, certain sports, etc) due to budgets and instant gratification and need to practice and organize etc makes it harder and harder for the younger folks to get into. I still can't imagine how the elementary and middle school music teachers can tolerate it though. They must 'self-medicate' a lot.

Yeah, totally with you on church music.  But classical music generally is booming, albeit mostly in Europe. I can barely keep up.  Young, new groups, releasing obscure stuff I've read about in books and never thought I'd hear.  Somebody's still interested.

K_Dubb

Quote from: brig on August 28, 2016, 07:24:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uv_2x6JmuaE

Goodness, they could give those famous Russian basses in orthodox choirs a run for their money!  Beautiful.

Used to listen to the rosary on the radio at night, still remember this one (Hail, Holy Queen) at the end.  To thee do we cry, poor, banished children of Eve; to thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this valley of tears...

Lilith

Quote from: K_Dubb on August 28, 2016, 07:39:59 PM
Goodness, they could give those famous Russian basses in orthodox choirs a run for their money!  Beautiful.

Used to listen to the rosary on the radio at night, still remember this one (Hail, Holy Queen) at the end.  To thee do we cry, poor, banished children of Eve; to thee do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this valley of tears...

I heard the Tibetan Monks live.  They have a similar ability still.  I'm sure you've probably heard them as well.   Glad you enjoyed it.  :)

I listen to it, and other similar things often.

albrecht

Quote from: K_Dubb on August 28, 2016, 07:30:28 PM
Yeah, totally with you on church music.  But classical music generally is booming, albeit mostly in Europe. I can barely keep up.  Young, new groups, releasing obscure stuff I've read about in books and never thought I'd hear.  Somebody's still interested.
Good to hear. When I lived there some old churches etc were being turned into discos (though, oddly, there is a lot of influence of 'classical' music methodology, chord progressions, etc in 'electronic' and metal music (some obvious cross-overs in recent times of famous metal bands performing with orchestras etc.) I'm glad the genre is still popular and growing (I have seen a lot of interest in old instruments, tunings, etc) even if it on a more historical or secular basis. Still good music.

albrecht

Quote from: brig on August 28, 2016, 07:43:44 PM
I heard the Tibetan Monks live.  They have a similar ability still.  I'm sure you've probably heard them as well.   Glad you enjoyed it.  :)

I listen to it, and other similar things often.

Brig, I never been to a Latin Mass but good stuff and that bass was impressive actually, somehow, I was playing it on the BG site but it also popped up in another window and was playing for a few seconds- so for a time it sounded like one of those 'double chants' , or whatever technigue that is called where they can do two sounds at once, that Mongolians use! Haha.

Lilith

Quote from: albrecht on August 28, 2016, 07:55:46 PM
Brig, I never been to a Latin Mass but good stuff and that bass was impressive actually, somehow, I was playing it on the BG site but it also popped up in another window and was playing for a few seconds- so for a time it sounded like one of those 'double chants' , or whatever technigue that is called where they can do two sounds at once, that Mongolians use! Haha.

There is a point, when I'm listening to this, when I think five tones come together at once, but some of the tones actually have a double tone at once. Usually, at that one spot, my ears pop.  You might have heard Ep 596 on CTM with David Sereda. I think these are the type of tones and double tones he is getting with his "tubes".

albrecht

Quote from: brig on August 28, 2016, 08:07:36 PM
There is a point, when I'm listening to this, when I think five tones come together at once, but some of the tones actually have a double tone at once. Usually, at that one spot, my ears pop.  You might have heard Ep 596 on CTM with David Sereda. I think these are the type of tones and double tones he is getting with his "tubes".
I've heard Serada before but I forget if I heard that episode.There is some kind of power in music. Not sure on all of his, and others, ideas but there does appear, at least to me, some effect on mood and almost transcendental/religious effect with certain music especially played in certain conditions or places. Also I find interesting the 'math' and science behind it. It is weird how certain chords, progressions, etc are so effective but also different across cultures (I think) so maybe what you are brought up on or familiar with or, as Clyde claims, some kind of 'genetic memory'? He mentioned some study but now I can't recall so remind me of some study in which 2 selections (not sure if a single note or what) were played and families would hear them as either going up, or down, in pitch? I would be interested if anyone recalls this 'study?'

Quote from: albrecht on August 28, 2016, 07:55:46 PM
Brig, I never been to a Latin Mass but good stuff and that bass was impressive actually, somehow, I was playing it on the BG site but it also popped up in another window and was playing for a few seconds- so for a time it sounded like one of those 'double chants' , or whatever technigue that is called where they can do two sounds at once, that Mongolians use! Haha.

The Latin is the way Catholic mass was meant to be, this younger generation of Catholics don't know what they're missing. Don't get me started on Vatican II and the decline of the church in the west since then.  The eastern orthodox churches also have some beautiful services.  Iirc the Byzantine mass is almost entirely sung/chanted.  If you want to hear what a traditional old school priest sounds like (besides Fr. Malachi Martin), listen to the John B. Wells interview with Fr. Paul Kramer. TL;DR yes, there is a huge sense of reverence & awe missing in today's church music.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Humilia Lepus Foramen on August 28, 2016, 08:43:10 PM
The Latin is the way Catholic mass was meant to be, this younger generation of Catholics don't know what they're missing. Don't get me started on Vatican II and the decline of the church in the west since then.  The eastern orthodox churches also have some beautiful services.  Iirc the Byzantine mass is almost entirely sung/chanted.  If you want to hear what a traditional old school priest sounds like (besides Fr. Malachi Martin), listen to the John B. Wells interview with Fr. Paul Kramer. TL;DR yes, there is a huge sense of reverence & awe missing in today's church music.

There is a church near me, in Dickinson, Tx, that broke away from the Vatican and still says the mass in Latin. I have never attended mass there.

http://sspx.org/en/queen-angels-church-priory

Yeah I've been to SSPX mass before, I'd recommend it.  They're not officially separated from the church (they're kind of in a gray area) and are even in talks with the Vatican about reconciling their "irregular canonical status."

Quote from: norland2424 on August 28, 2016, 07:25:35 PM
thats why you shouldnt be nice to people lol

A week ago you were telling me to be nice to Bellgab!  >:(

K_Dubb

Quote from: albrecht on August 28, 2016, 07:54:54 PM
Good to hear. When I lived there some old churches etc were being turned into discos (though, oddly, there is a lot of influence of 'classical' music methodology, chord progressions, etc in 'electronic' and metal music (some obvious cross-overs in recent times of famous metal bands performing with orchestras etc.) I'm glad the genre is still popular and growing (I have seen a lot of interest in old instruments, tunings, etc) even if it on a more historical or secular basis. Still good music.

Ha yeah I like a lot of the Historically Informed Performance stuff, but you'll never convince me it's intrinsically better than this, the video I stumbled on yesterday which started the whole thing, and which would now be considered deeply unfashionable:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDMX-PZYEMQ


norland2424

Quote from: Empress on August 28, 2016, 09:27:59 PM
A week ago you were telling me to be nice to Bellgab!  >:(

I don't want you to lose your Hillary Commie money.



Quote from: Yorkshire pud on August 28, 2016, 09:45:11 PM
Video or it really never happened.

This is Bellgab. If someone says something it's automatically true when it's come to Hillary Clinton. No one needs proof! Simply the belief one is right!

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Empress on August 28, 2016, 09:48:09 PM
This is Bellgab. If someone says something it's automatically true when it's come to Hillary Clinton. No one needs proof! Simply the belief one is right!

Damn. I never knew. I feel foolish now. But I'd still like to watch the video.


norland2424

Quote from: Empress on August 28, 2016, 09:48:09 PM
This is Bellgab. If someone says something it's automatically true when it's come to Hillary Clinton. No one needs proof! Simply the belief one is right!

So bellgab is Arizona? I mean talk about a shit hole , Arizona being the shithole not bellgab

SciFiAuthor

Quote from: Empress on August 28, 2016, 09:48:09 PM
This is Bellgab. If someone says something it's automatically true when it's come to Hillary Clinton. No one needs proof! Simply the belief one is right!

She's a reptilian. Why do you need proof of this? Look at the skin, and the fact that Bill is always out trying to get some strange. I would too if I married an iguana.

Quote from: norland2424 on August 28, 2016, 10:07:25 PM
So bellgab is Arizona? I mean talk about a shit hole , Arizona being the shithole not bellgab



Quote from: jaz on August 28, 2016, 11:09:54 PM
I let you post in YOUR thread on MY forum so be nice. :P

Hey I didn't tell the Australian cops you killed your family so you owe me, mister!

jazmunda

Quote from: Empress on August 28, 2016, 11:19:18 PM
Hey I didn't tell the Australian cops you killed your family so you owe me, mister!

:-[

Once the statute of limitations expires I will revoke your posting privileges.


SredniVashtar

Quote from: albrecht on August 28, 2016, 06:17:56 PM
Ha!
Me and KD must have had a few because we got our Richters crossed and had to be corrected this AM by one of the Brits who amazingly have found their way onto a website about a foreign radio host/show that no longer broadcasts.

It's inadvisable to cross one's Richters, especially in this hot weather. Anyway, I thought you were talking about this one, rather than the other.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gv2E1qxa9w

K_Dubb

Quote from: SredniVashtar on August 30, 2016, 05:57:49 AM
It's inadvisable to cross one's Richters, especially in this hot weather. Anyway, I thought you were talking about this one, rather than the other.

Thanks, Shreddi, I don't think I've heard that on piano before.  You can sure pick out the blacksmith a lot better.  Seems to be working up quite a sweat there at the end hahaha.

Lilith

MV's talking about the "Premiere" folk.  Tom hung up on me once, saying something like he had run out of time before the commercial comes on. I was all upset, and remember posting my unhappiness on the CoastRiders forum.  lol's

Lilith

I got thru to talk to George on one show, it was the one with the woman who was presented as a woman talking about Edgar Cayce, and his foundation in Virginia Beach. All she did was talk about healing crystals, so I wanted to ask her if she thought Edgar Cayce used healing crystals, which I did get to ask her.  She basically said no, and I said Ok, Thank You.

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