Zombies over run walmart over EBT (foodstamp) failure? (Picture and Videos)

[Eddie Coyle]

He would tell you that he started as a so-called "serf". Another thing about Walmart I forgot to mention; opportunity to work hard, apply yourself, and advance.

Thanks for reminding me.

      That's the mythopoeic image that most people outgrow when they enter the workplace and get fucked over by the type of backstabbing weasels that fill management. ESPECIALLY, Walmart management.

[FightTheFuture]

      That's the mythopoeic image that most people outgrow when they enter the workplace and get fucked over by the type of backstabbing weasels that fill management. ESPECIALLY, Walmart management.

Walmart promotes heavily from within. That`s just a fact. Whether or not you find their business and/or management model to your liking, is highly subjective. From my personal experience, having known and interacted with several Walmart employees, it seems that opportunities exist, and they are well within reach of the typical employee.

[NowhereInTime]

Well, true, I am a shareholder, but I take umbrage with the "idiot" bit. I`ve held WMT since the days immediately following the big market down turn. I`m smart enough to know if it`s good enough for the Wizard of Omaha; it`s good enough for a small-potatoes guy from Carolina.

You have the gall to "take umbrage"?  I would think that you, throwing more slurs, insults, foul language, condescension, and vitriol than the next three posters combined would have the integrity to get slapped back a bit with some of your own paste.
Life is grand from the shareholders perspective, isn't it? 

[NowhereInTime]

Walmart promotes heavily from within. That`s just a fact. Whether or not you find their business and/or management model to your liking, is highly subjective. From my personal experience, having known and interacted with several Walmart employees, it seems that opportunities exist, and they are well within reach of the typical employee.

Of course they promote from within.  The idea is to promote your best producers who've shown commitment to your company culture.  Wal-Mart, ever the cynics, enjoy the added bonus of suppressing wage rates.  What a Wal-Mart manager makes compared to a Target manager is sad.  Both work long hours on their feet dealing with all sorts of challenges but at the end of the day Target managers have stronger benefits packages, review increases, and better work environments.  Their commitment to staffing and teamwork is nearly unparalelled in retail.
Wal-Mart's model is southern-style, plantation-style cynical use and abuse.

[PB the Deplorable]

     Manager kinda sums up why he would enjoy it. The serfs under him, probably not so much.

The idea is to start off at the bottom as a young person and work up from there.  People either leave for other jobs, the people above get promotions creating openings, the company grows and needs more managers, etc.

It isn't that hard to move up at a big place like Walmart.  And if not, it's good experience and other stores will hire a good employee away from them.


The D's are always trying to convince people that wherever anyone is right now they are stuck there for life, and therefore need handouts.  That is completely false, unless they either want to be at the bottom or have no motivation whatsoever.

[PB the Deplorable]

... Want to visit the "real world"?  Visit South Central LA, New Orleans' ninth ward, Detroit, Jefferson County Mississippi, McCreary County Kentucky, Bridgeport, CT then come back and tell me "How well its working" in Bootstraps America.

That's interesting.  A few days ago I suggested you go visit the inner city to see what policies like the ones you seem to prefer create.  You told me you lived in an inner city and made it sound like it was almost heaven.  Nothing about these other places.



Now you a few days later you've discovered the inner cities, and found them to be shitholes.  Well duh.

You do know that nearly all of our big cities have been run by 'Progressives' (we used to call them the Liberal Left) for decades?  Decades.

They are and have been in change of local taxation, regulation, zoning.  They decide on the budget priorities.  They run the police and court systems there.  They have 100% control of city hall. 

Their policies have had plenty of time to 'mature'.  No one can say they haven't been given a fair chance.

And look what they've created.  And after decades of complete failure, do they reevaluate, change direction, consider perhaps they may be wrong?  Hell no.

Now we have one in the White House.  Which explains the dismal lack of economic recovery the past 5 years.  And there are still people out there arguing on behalf of this ObamaCare fiasco.


I don't understand what it is about politics that makes otherwise bright people so dense.

[PB the Deplorable]

No I do not have vacation time coming up: I get one week a year and had to spend it on sick time. But thanks for asking.

I have no idea what you are talking about regarding North Korea and Chinese leaves.  Is this more of your weak-ass Marxist/Liberal conflation? Can you or any conservative have a conversation without predefining your opponents or preconditioning every remark?

Why should I or any American settle for "not being North Korea"?  Why is it wrong to strive for even more than we have now?  To create a stronger, more unified nation?  To really be the envy of the world?  Why do you always want to limit this nation's true potential?...

I realize you don't know what I'm talking about when I reference North Korea, the old Soviet Bloc, Mao's China, and Castro's Cuba.  You haven't paid enough attention to history, economics, or politics outside our country - although you think you have - to realize the similarity with your policy preferences. 

All you know is it's just more "weak-ass Marxist/Liberal conflation" to be ignored.

I have to assume you get your information from only one side, and the extreme fringe of that one side.  When you are reading their propaganda, or going to their teach-ins, they aren't going to mention that all this has been tried and it's failed everywhere it's been tried, having created nothing but chaos, misery, and poverty.  They aren't going to tell you of course it's a failed economic ideology and the real reason they are trying to spread it is to create enough dupes to further their cause of a one world government with them at the top.  So thanks for being an easily led tool.

Do you really think the problems in North Korea now, or the old USSR, Pol Pot's Cambodia, Mao's China, etc then, was too much capitalism? 

[NowhereInTime]

The idea is to start off at the bottom as a young person and work up from there.  People either leave for other jobs, the people above get promotions creating openings, the company grows and needs more managers, etc.

Yes, that is the idea. Unless of course you win the genetic lottery and are born into the Walton, Gates, Koch, or upper 1% families where you will never have to soil your soles anywhere near "the bottom".  Ain't inherited wealth great?
Anyone else feel like lodging in the Paris Hilton right about now?

[Quick Karl]

Sir, you are pathetic.

OK I apologize - I am going to presume that you are at least a pretty decent guy in real life but geez, lose the envy, or start demanding that Gate', Buffet' The Kennedys, Rockefellers, Obama's, Reids, Pelosis ad infinitum, divest their wealth to the inhabitants of the inner cities, who will SURELY not squander it but will use it to create $100-per-hour jobs for EVERYONE!

Yes, that is the idea. Unless of course you win the genetic lottery and are born into the Walton, Gates, Koch, or upper 1% families where you will never have to soil your soles anywhere near "the bottom".  Ain't inherited wealth great?
Anyone else feel like lodging in the Paris Hilton right about now?

[NowhereInTime]

I realize you don't know what I'm talking about when I reference North Korea, the old Soviet Bloc, Mao's China, and Castro's Cuba.  You haven' paid enough attention to history, economics, or politics outside our country to realize the similarity with your policy preferences. 

All you know is it's just more "weak-ass Marxist/Liberal conflation" to be ignored.

I have to assume you get your information from only one side, and the extreme fringe of that one side.  When you are reading their propaganda, or going to their teach-ins, they aren't going to mention that all this has been tried and it's failed everywhere it's been tried, having created nothing but chaos, misery, and poverty.  They aren't going to tell you of course it's a failed economic ideology and the real reason they are trying to spread it is to create enough dupes to further their cause of a one world government with them at the top.  So thanks for being an easily led tool.

Do you really think the problems in North Korea now, or the old USSR, Pol Pot's Cambodia, Mao's China, etc then, was too much capitalism?

You salty old dog you!  I see what you did there!  I almost missed it, what with skipping off to my next "teach-in", but you once again conflated my beliefs with communism!
I hate to break this to you, PB, but its 2013.  The days of the Cold War are gone.  The days of "one world government" never were.
You sit alone, twisted with hatred for humankind, and presume to know what everyone else thinks.  You sit alone, overflowing with bile, hurling insults at everyone who challenges the delusion upon which you base your entire belief system. 
I can't possibly hate you.  Were I to come across you, I would hug you and let you know that you are not alone. There is hope.
The problems with North Korea stem from brutish totalitarianism, not liberalism. 
The problem with Mao's China stemmed from peasant fear of intellectualism, not liberalism. 
The problem with Old USSR (and the current Russia) stems from thousands of years of fear of invasion (Khan, Napoleon, Hitler, and some I've missed because I really don't "study history"), never liberalism.
Your desire to force everyone to accept liberalism as no more than the brutish front of North Korean "Communism" has failed.  Too many Americans have begun to realize, as you do, that there are millionaire and even billionaire liberals.  We recognize capitalism as a "tool" for society (see what I did there?), not an end unto itself.  I'm in the stock market!
We don't, however, ever accept that wealth is to be valued more than people, which is where our real divide is.  Still love you, though

[b_dubb]

If you want to sit in judgment as to what is bullshit and what isn't, I suggest you start with Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Reid, and work your way up the feces heap till you get to McCain, McConnell, Graham, Rubio, King...

Stop falling for the politics of envy - no corporation on the planet is perfect, including the corporations owned by democrats, like Google, in bed with the NSA, BILLIONAIRES off of selling YOUR information to marketing firms, and have their PRIVATE jets parked on Military Airbases, that TAX PAYERS pay for.

Karl. You are an asshat.  Now fuck off.

[PB the Deplorable]

You salty old dog you!  I see what you did there!  I almost missed it, what with skipping off to my next "teach-in", but you once again conflated my beliefs with communism!
I hate to break this to you, PB, but its 2013.  The days of the Cold War are gone.  The days of "one world government" never were.
You sit alone, twisted with hatred for humankind, and presume to know what everyone else thinks.  You sit alone, overflowing with bile, hurling insults at everyone who challenges the delusion upon which you base your entire belief system. 
I can't possibly hate you.  Were I to come across you, I would hug you and let you know that you are not alone. There is hope.
The problems with North Korea stem from brutish totalitarianism, not liberalism. 
The problem with Mao's China stemmed from peasant fear of intellectualism, not liberalism. 
The problem with Old USSR (and the current Russia) stems from thousands of years of fear of invasion (Khan, Napoleon, Hitler, and some I've missed because I really don't "study history"), never liberalism.
Your desire to force everyone to accept liberalism as no more than the brutish front of North Korean "Communism" has failed.  Too many Americans have begun to realize, as you do, that there are millionaire and even billionaire liberals.  We recognize capitalism as a "tool" for society (see what I did there?), not an end unto itself.  I'm in the stock market!
We don't, however, ever accept that wealth is to be valued more than people, which is where our real divide is.  Still love you, though

Your stuff, the dreck from Occupy - it's not Liberalism.

Oh for the not so long ago days when the opposition to the R's was just Liberalism - a little more taxation and spending, and a little less military readiness, than what was good for the country.  That seems like heaven compared to what the Democrat Party has morphed into the past about 10 years or so.

And you are to the Left of the current Dem's. Although, unfortunately, not by much.

[Quick Karl]

WOW! That must have taken you a LONG TIME to come up with.

I am impressed!

Karl. You are an asshat.  Now fuck off.

[bateman]

Karl. You are an asshat.  Now fuck off.

Where was he wrong in any of that?

[NowhereInTime]

Sir, you are pathetic.

OK I apologize - I am going to presume that you are at least a pretty decent guy in real life but geez, lose the envy, or start demanding that Gate', Buffet' The Kennedys, Rockefellers, Obama's, Reids, Pelosis ad infinitum, divest their wealth to the inhabitants of the inner cities, who will SURELY not squander it but will use it to create $100-per-hour jobs for EVERYONE!

No, please, keep your apology.  Denegration from you showers upon me like sunbeams of joy!  Again, this point of "redistribution of wealth" comes up but wayyy too late.  This started with M&A deregulation in the 80's and the coup-de-grace that was the Bush Tax Cuts in the early 00's. 
All of the wealth has been redistributed up the socio-economic ladder, never down.  When millionaires got their tax cuts, did they "invest in new companies" or "create jobs"? Of course not, not when there was easy money boosting commodity prices (India & China, after all!), housing prices (Flip Dat House, Wilson!), treasuries, and in leveraged buy outs.
Not when they held the upper hand during the dot.com bubble and re-wrote the law (Phil Gramm) to actually earn tax credits for off-shoring jobs!  Where was conservative outrage then? 
Probably suppressed by caviar and Pol Roger.

[NowhereInTime]

Where was he wrong in any of that?

It doesn't matter if he was right or wrong. Quick Karl is an asshat and he should fuck off. 
Search your feelings, you know this to be true!

[NowhereInTime]

Your stuff, the dreck from Occupy - it's not Liberalism.

Oh for the not so long ago days when the opposition to the R's was just Liberalism - a little more taxation and spending, and a little less military readiness, than what was good for the country.  That seems like heaven compared to what the Democrat Party has morphed into the past about 10 years or so.

And you are to the Left of the current Dem's. Although, unfortunately, not by much.

Actually I was going to market a new cleanser to wash away stains from Occupy dreck.  Care for a bottle?
I am a current Dem.  We are getting more liberal as the R's are getting so much more Ruteger-like crazy.  Why compromise our beliefs against totalitarians?

[PB the Deplorable]

... Oh for the not so long ago days when the opposition to the R's was just Liberalism - a little more taxation and spending, and a little less military readiness, than what was good for the country.  That seems like heaven compared to what the Democrat Party has morphed into the past about 10 years or so..

And to be fair (hi West) the not so long ago days of the R's representing the middle class, entrepreneurs, and Constitutionalists also seems like heaven compared to the phony failed establishment Republicans we are now afflicted with.

They represent no one, and only get by due to name recognition and because they hold 'safe seats' in places a Dem generally can't get elected.



In fact, in DC they are following the path set out by the California Republican Party.  A Party which for all intents and purposes, no longer exists.

[PB the Deplorable]

Actually I was going to market a new cleanser to wash away stains from Occupy dreck.  Care for a bottle?
I am a current Dem.  We are getting more liberal as the R's are getting so much more Ruteger-like crazy.  Why compromise our beliefs against totalitarians?

That's almost comical.  The Libs spent decades denying they were Liberal, now the 'Progressives' are denying they are Liberal/Left (emphasis on Left) and claiming to be Liberal.

[NowhereInTime]

That's almost comical.  The Libs spent decades denying they were Liberal, now the 'Progressives' are denying they are Liberal/Left (emphasis on Left) and claiming to be Liberal.

Yes, older Dems who weren't full on lefties didn't want to be smeared as "liberal" back in the "Hate'm 80's" of Lee Atwater.  Reagan successfully turned "liberal" into a slur that didn't start to bend and break until Clinton's second term. 
As usual, it was your blanket, epithet use of the term that caused it to lose its venom.
Progressives have always ever been pragmatists.  You'd know this is you ever studied anything besides Ayn Rand. The reason they detach from the "liberal" label is because too often liberals want everything, all at once (single payer health care) whereas progressives know we need to get the country comfortable with the idea (Medicare, Obamacare).
Same with civil rights, same thing with gay rights.  Why do you think there was massive movement of gay friendly television in the late 90's, early aughts?  "Ellen", "Will & Grace", and other shows HUMANIZED gays instead of allowing your slurs to define them.  And in record time we now have the end of DOMA and the rise of gay marriage in this nation. 
As of yet, no sign of the four horsemen...

[PB the Deplorable]

Yes, older Dems who weren't full on lefties didn't want to be smeared as "liberal" back in the "Hate'm 80's" of Lee Atwater.  Reagan successfully turned "liberal" into a slur that didn't start to bend and break until Clinton's second term...

Actually, it was the Liberals themselves and their policies that turned the word into a negative.  Most Americans didn't want high taxes, big government, and a distain for the military then, and they don't want it now.

[NowhereInTime]

Actually, it was the Liberals themselves and their policies that turned the word into a negative.  Most Americans didn't want high taxes, big government, and a distain for the military then, and they don't want it now.

No. This is the precise slurring I referred to. 

[Quick Karl]

Posted in the Waco Tribune-Herald, Nov. 18, 2010

Put me in charge

Put me in charge of food stamps. I’d get rid of Lone Star cards; no cash for Ding Dongs or Ho Ho’s, just money for 50-pound bags of rice and beans, blocks of cheese and all the powdered milk you can haul away. If you want steak and frozen pizza, then get a job.

Put me in charge of Medicaid. The first thing I’d do is to get women Norplant birth control implants or tubal ligations. Then, we’ll test recipients for drugs, alcohol, and nicotine and document all tattoos and piercings. If you want to reproduce or use drugs, alcohol, smoke or get tats and piercings, then get a job.

Put me in charge of government housing. Ever live in a military barracks? You will maintain our property in a clean and good state of repair. Your “home” will be subject to inspections anytime and possessions will be inventoried. If you want a plasma TV or Xbox 360, then get a job and your own place.

In addition, you will either present a check stub from a job each week or you will report to a “government” job. It may be cleaning the roadways of trash, painting and repairing public housing, whatever we find for you. We will sell your 22 inch rims and low profile tires and your blasting stereo and speakers and put that money toward the “common good.”

Before you write that I’ve violated someone’s rights, realize that all of the above is voluntary. If you want our money, accept our rules.. Before you say that this would be “demeaning” and ruin their “self esteem,” consider that it wasn’t that long ago that taking someone else’s money for doing absolutely nothing was demeaning and lowered self esteem.

If we are expected to pay for other people’s mistakes we should at least attempt to make them learn from their bad choices. The current system rewards them for continuing to make bad choices.

AND while you are on Gov’t subsistence, you no longer can VOTE! Yes that is correct. For you to vote would be a conflict of interest. You will voluntarily remove yourself from voting while you are receiving a Gov’t welfare check. If you want to vote, then get a job.

Alfred W. Evans

Gatesville, TX

[PB the Deplorable]

... Put me in charge...

This is how a sane handout program would be run.  It's why the government took over from those nasty charities with their strings attached.  Not to mention all the votes there to be bought.

We really don't need foreign workers picking produce, mowing lawns, or working in restaurants.  We already have enough people whose lack of ambition is perfectly suited for that.

Alfred is probably in big trouble.

[Quick Karl]

I couldn't have said it better, PB.

It's always baffled me when politicians say we NEED NON-AMERICAN low-wage illegal workers to do the jobs that perfectly capable, American, democrat-voting, welfare recipients, refuse to do!

This is how a sane handout program would be run.  It's why the government took over from those nasty charities with their strings attached.  Not to mention all the votes there to be bought.

We really don't need foreign workers picking produce, mowing lawns, or working in restaurants.  We already have enough people whose lack of ambition is perfectly suited for that.

Alfred is probably in big trouble.