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Jim Sparks - Abductee/contactee

Started by Spinner, October 13, 2013, 01:35:01 PM

Spinner

Jim Sparks is scheduled to be a guest on Art's show next week (Tue. 10/15). In preparation, I'm now listening to his interview with Art on Dec. 9, 2006.

I was wondering what BellGabbers thought about him and his story. I really have not taken the time to dig, so, Has there been any info that would disprove his story or show him as a hoaxer?

Marc.Knight

Quote from: Spinner on October 13, 2013, 01:35:01 PM
Jim Sparks is scheduled to be a guest on Art's show next week (Tue. 10/15). In preparation, I'm now listening to his interview with Art on Dec. 9, 2006.

I was wondering what BellGabbers thought about him and his story. I really have not taken the time to dig, so, Has there been any info that would disprove his story or show him as a hoaxer?

Common sense.

Morgus

Jim Sparks has also been interviewed several times by Linda Howe and she believes his story.
Art also was impressed in an extra long interview he did with him years ago.

I recall Jim Sparks was scheduled as a full show guest with Noory a few months ago, but Noory dumped him after less than one hour claiming his phone line was bad quality, but it sounded OK on the radio. Probably Noory just used that excuse as he has done in the past.

Hopefully we will get a full 4 hours with Sparks with Art this week!

I'm looking forward to this show. I have heard many of Art's old shows but somehow missed this the first time.

I just ran a search through Google for the phrase "Jim Sparks Hoax" and there are far fewer results than I expected (compared to cases that I am familiar with).

area51drone

This guy has a very detailed story and long "history" of repeated abuctions.  But detail doesn't make it true.  I for one, do not believe him.  He's interesting to listen to, sort of.  But what always amazes me is that once these guys hit the "circuit," abductions seem to stop for them.   They recall evidence (as in Sparks sees a footprint half way through a window), but he doesn't take a picture of such an oddity and something that would give his story some credence?  I am not a BeWeeber of this guy either.   Also, like Weeber, his story is one that is just repeated each time he tells it (I suppose for obvious reasons).   He also goes into how the government is working with the aliens to do these abductions and he once was taken to Area 51.   Bahh...

All he talks about are people and some guy who invented some water system and they are buddies now because they met on the alien space craft - but he won't give the guy's name.   He also talks about how the aliens showed pictures of a beautiful planet, and pictures of a destroyed planet and that the aliens just want us to fix the earth.    On and on, nothing new to see, move along.

If any of you call, press him HARD for details like "what were they wearing" and things like smells, sounds, specific visual details of controls, rooms etc.   I haven't heard him say very much if anything about those types of details.   Someone with his "awake" knowledge of his abductions should know such things and be able to tell very specific things at the drop of a hat.   

Spinner

Quote from: area51drone on October 14, 2013, 12:04:08 AM
All he talks about are people and some guy who invented some water system and they are buddies now because they met on the alien space craft - but he won't give the guy's name.

That's not "all he talks about." The whole thing might have taken a couple of minutes total. And, he did give the full name, at least twice.

QuoteIf any of you call, press him HARD for details like "what were they wearing" and things like smells, sounds, specific visual details of controls, rooms etc.   I haven't heard him say very much if anything about those types of details.   
All those details were clearly given during the interviews.

area51drone

You're saying it was in the Dec 2006 interview?   I've listened to at least a few.  I don't remember that he ever gave out the friend's name in any of the shows I listened to.    If he did, I stand corrected - please provide it.  I'd like to try to locate the guy.    And there are very very very few intricate details.

Are you a BeWeeber?

The first Jim Sparks with Art was lots of fun.

area51drone

Quote from: Mind Flayer Monk on October 14, 2013, 01:49:12 AM
The first Jim Sparks with Art was lots of fun.

I think Art can make nearly anyone fun the first time around.   I kind of liked listening to Spark's story.   But the second time was a snore.   But just liking the sound of the story doesn't make it credible.   I liked the "Reed" story when I first heard it too - I was fascinated with it, especially with my close proximity to the area it supposedly happened at.   The only abduction story that I have some belief in is the Travis Walton story.

tig

I've heard Sparks interviewed by Art Bell and on the Paracast.  His story seems particularly lame to me, and I don't quite get what makes him seem like an interesting guest to others.  There's nothing in his story that makes me willing to suspend disbelief, and he's not whacky enough to enjoy the whack factor in the story.  When I saw Sparks listed as a guest, I really wondered how Art was going to make him interesting.

I tend to agree with the earlier poster who suggested callers ask detailed questions.  It could be interesting to see how Sparks comes up with justifications for his beliefs, if he's actually delusional, or dodges requests for evidence, if he's just fronting.  On the other hand, I feel confident that Art will give us a good show no matter what.

area51drone

Quote from: tig on October 14, 2013, 08:31:19 PM
I don't quite get what makes him seem like an interesting guest to others.  ...  When I saw Sparks listed as a guest, I really wondered how Art was going to make him interesting.

There's what I like to call the hard way, and what I like to call the easy way....


area51drone

Well guys (and gals)?  What did you think of him?




DanTSX

    His version of the abduction fairy tale is particularly interesting.  The insight and discussion of how a more advanced brain operates and relates to a less advanced one is probably the most interesting and most convincing part.  But like other abduction story tellers, they get far too detailed In Explaining the motivations, purpose, and whys, etc of the visitors.   I almost believe him until his story gets to the point where he is being taken regularly and being given special insight.   If this whole abduction thing is true, these guys are going to lie to us and deceive us about everything.



    At least he doesn't obsess over his anal probing like Whitley streiber

DanTSX

Quote from: Jackstar on October 16, 2013, 03:20:22 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_fountainhead

read it before your next briefing, you'll be glad you did


Ah yes, the 3rd greatest Randian excuse book for being an intolerable and inhumane asshole.

Great concepts that cause you to think about your motives, but about as practical as the communist manifesto for actual practice. 

It is actually more practical to read books about Rand's books.  But I suppose you have to start somewhere.  Baby steps to a doctorate in pseudo-intellectualism.   Which is Perfect for coast to coast / dark matter if you think about it .

area51drone

Quote from: DanTSX on October 16, 2013, 07:35:26 AM
But like other abduction story tellers, they get far too detailed In Explaining the motivations, purpose, and whys, etc of the visitors.

This is one of the reasons I like the Walton story, besides the multiple witnesses.   Walton never says he knows why he was abducted or why they're there, he just tells what he believes happened to him and that's that.

area51drone

Quote from: Spinner on October 14, 2013, 12:57:44 AM
And, he did give the full name, at least twice.
All those details were clearly given during the interviews.

BONK.   As in last night's show, he did NOT give the name, once again.  And this time, the person is a "media type" person.   Not at all what he said in prior interviews - he used to be a "camera man"... no camera man is going to lose his job for saying he was an abductee... an achnor man would, but not someone operating a camera.   Nor would anyone care about some camera man.

Again, story lacks a massive amount of detail.  Art even tried to get extra information out of him, and he pretty much brushed the question off and said stuff like "there's a lot more detail in my book"

Art86

Sparks recent appearance on Dark Matter was extremely unbelievable. You could hear him fanning through pages and stumbling to get information consistent with his previous interviews. Unimpressive. He sounded like a tree hugger peacenik with a uniquely   fabricated way to deliver the message to those gullible enough to believe it.

Tarbaby

Guest: Jim Sparks, professional on human abdustion.
I didn't believe his story, although he did have instant answers to caller's questions. But he had an odd affect as he told the story, odd ways of pausing and dissembling and also odd laughter at inappropriate moments, on issues that should have been serious and scarey, not amusing.
   Secondly, he would occasionally hawk his CD or website with special offers for Art Bell listeners, etc. Yes, he could have just been an especially brave soul capitalizing on his experiences but I mean, really... aliens have been invading your life and consciousness, kidnapping you for bizarre experiments for 6 years, and you laugh about it and casually try to make money on it? C'mon. Not credible. There were only two or three times my imagination was "sparked" by Sparks.

   It was* interesting, though, how Sparks could so immediately respond to callers with intricate details of parallel experience directly related to the caller's topic. I thought that added to his credibility somewhat. But the dissembling and sputtering now and then detracted from his credibility, as if his mind was racing for those "details". Art, several times, actually jumped in to rescue him at these times more than once.

   And, BTW, large parts of it just didn't make sense. For example, he spent years learning their* alphabet, symbols which corresponded to our alphabet. Going over each letter until it was firmly memorized. That implies a one to one correspondence. But subsequently he said he would read a 50 page story, in English, and then the same story in the alien symbology but that* would only take less than ONE page. Implying major compression. What happened to the one to one language letter exchange?

   One can never easily tell which of these people are very clever and imaginative authors and storytellers and which are genuinely delusional. I guess it's mostly a matter of whether it's subconscious or conscious deception. Suddenly I'm now think of John Titor.

area51drone

Quote from: Tarbaby on October 20, 2013, 03:27:19 PM
What happened to the one to one language letter exchange?

Exactly.  And from what I'm aware, there is no "one to one language letter exchange" for any language on earth!   Not to mention he should be able to make these symbol coins on demand if he's been trained in their symbolism for years.

CornyCrow

Maybe there really are abductees, but there is nothing to prevent Sparks or others to read a lot of what's out there and formulate their own story of abduction. 

I find it difficult, as a prior poster said, to believe that he's still being abducted to this very day and his story still sounds the same.  No new material - at least, not that I can remember.

Wasn't it Sparks whom Art asked if he'd take a lie detector test?  And Sparks just hemmed and hawed around, not saying 'yes, certainly'?  If I remember he seemed so sincere and forthcoming until that question was asked and then he became very evasive. 

I think the guy's a phoney, but still entertaining.

I also think, if Art asks all his guests, on air, if they would take a lie detector test Art would soon have a very short guest list. 

SpaceRadomir

If it weren't for Jim, the aliens would never know what horses are. I bet he'll one day marry an alien and they'll have their very own hybrid cloning facility. 8)

Animby

Quote from: Morgus on October 13, 2013, 03:01:54 PM
Linda Howe and she believes his story.

Morgus: Linda Howe also believes that an interstellar race of advanced beings regularly drops cattle so they can dissect their vaginas.

SpaceRadomir

You can forgive her on that.
But falling for this youtube hoax:

Strange sounds heard from sky worldwide

Just makes me wonder how can she keep calling herself a journalist. >:(

Jackstar

Oh yeah, The Trump, that was awesome! Thanks for reminding me :)

CornyCrow

Linda Moulton Howe is the only guest who I have turned off, so far.  She has a horrible voice.  People who do presentations on the media (especially women) should consult people on how to properly modulate their voices.  If they are too high pitched or nasal they are hard to listen to for any length of time.

I remember, years back, listening to her and feeling so sorry for what those animals must have gone through and she sounded positively happy relating the tale.  I think there's something wrong with her. 

She certainly, on Wikipedia, has a lot of credentials.   

SpaceRadomir

Yeah, she sound like she's having mental breakdowns all the time. Much like Whitley Streiber.

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